Painting Wash Issue

[Skyphox]

Having had a break from Blood Angels for a little bit, I have come back and using the new GW paints. But I am running into issue with one of the new Washes. Each time I use it, the following happens. (See image below) Like a white substance collects in the corner, but only visible once dried.

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I then tried a Vallejo wash, same thing.

I am told I have to shake the washes a LOT... and the above image is after 3 minutes of shaking :)

What am I doing wrong? Is there a solution to this? I even tried putting it on neat.. hence the brush marks :/

Any help would be much appreciated!
Skyphox

[house_cawdor]

Having had a break from Blood Angels for a little bit, I have come back and using the new GW paints. But I am running into issue with one of the new Washes. Each time I use it, the following happens. (See image below) Like a white substance collects in the corner, but only visible once dried.

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I then tried a Vallejo wash, same thing.

I am told I have to shake the washes a LOT... and the above image is after 3 minutes of shaking :)

What am I doing wrong? Is there a solution to this? I even tried putting it on neat.. hence the brush marks :/

Any help would be much appreciated!
Skyphox

You may be applying too much at once. The newer GW washes seem to not work as well as the older ones. If you over saturate an area, it dries in the way yours has. Almost the same as inks used to do, but this is more forgiving.

[Deadlift]

I admit I have never seen this before. A few questions, what colour wash are you using ? Also what was the temperature like. Colder than usual or warmer ?
I could be wrong but are you using the wash all over your model, as a glaze ? If this is the case you could try using the badab black wash and paint into the recesses to get the effect your looking for.

[tankbusta]

That's unusual. Try using an old tooth brush to clean off some of that white stuff, it could be hard water from cleaning your brushes dries in the corners and leaves a white mineral residue.

[SaveModifier]

House Cawdor is right, too much wash at once, you're saturating the area and thats not what you should do. On big things like this, you need to just use a little on the brush, then pull it toward where you need the shade to go, little models with a lot of details are fine with the wash thrown all over it but big, flat areas need a gentle approach

[Denzark]

If this happened with 2 different manufacturers washes, I would be thinking it is what is underneath the paint layer. Did you wash the parts but not get all the soap off? Did you use something funny in an airbrush? I have never had this with a GW wash, neither had I heard that the new batch is worse than previous washes, nor seen any evidence of that.

[Night System]

I get this problem a lot. I believe it is caused by a combination of to much applied and/or the wash drying too quickly. A fix I have found is to brush Lahmiam Medium over the area straight from the pot. This rehydrates the powdery white areas that didn't dry properly and allows them to re-set fixing the problem.

[Skyphox]

I get this problem a lot. I believe it is caused by a combination of to much applied and/or the wash drying too quickly. A fix I have found is to brush Larriman Medium over the area straight from the pot. This rehydrates the powdery white areas that didn't dry properly and allows them to re-set fixing the problem.

Thank you all for the replies! I used to always use this technique with the old paints. Basically Blood Red covered with Baal Red wash, never had an issue. So you are probably right, I use it more as a glaze.

Usually put some wash on my palette, add water and then use a large brush to apply. Though I had this happen with some terminators too, but I stripped them thinking it was to do with the Army Painter red spray paint I had used.

I'm glad someone has had this issue, maybe I do just have to be more sparing with the application. So basically I need to use this Lahmian Medium and the white will just fade?

[Night System]

Pretty Much, it will fade in front of your eyes as you apply it. Sometimes it will return afterwards but it will be smaller and so a second coat should do it.

To be honest Lahmiam Medium is such an awesome product I would reccomend it to anyone who paints miniatures as it has a fair few good uses.

[Skyphox]

Thy will be done! Will purchase some now. Thanks for the tip!

[Mr Mystery]

Pretty Much, it will fade in front of your eyes as you apply it. Sometimes it will return afterwards but it will be smaller and so a second coat should do it.

To be honest Lahmiam Medium is such an awesome product I would reccomend it to anyone who paints miniatures as it has a fair few good uses.

Could we not just save time and coat our eyes in Lahmian medium?

[dwez]

I had the same problem with a pot of Seraphim Sepia on my Hive Tyrant (http://40kaddict.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/nids-part-75-winged-hive-tyrant-and.html)

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But the pot I'd used before had no such problems. Even with a healthy shake follwoing my investigations it didn't solve the problem and it does appaear as if by magic. One minute it's perfect and still wet then you look again and it's dry with a 'flour' residue. I switched to Army Painter shades insetad, they're exactly the same as the old Badab Black, Gryphone Sepia and Devlan Mud washes, you can use as much as you want and they're cheaper too.

I'm sure you could probably use this result as some kind of 'effect in some way but not sure how you can fix your model. I'd be confident a an army painter wash might mitigate the problem, it essentially stains the residue the new colour, it's how I fixed mine. However, it may be too dark for your Blood Angels, good luck fixing it, I feel your pain.