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energongoodie
11-08-2013, 02:49 AM
Well...it's here. But it has met with a rather frosty reception from fans on Facebook.
It has already been funded but does not seem to be great value and people are complaining that the stretch goals are not clear. They were no early bird options which seems to have upset people. The game's contents does not list any dice but I think there are 3 in the picture blacked out.
No update or comment form the creators as yet.
I haven't jumped in yet which I am surprised about. I really want those models but the quality of the rest of the contents looks poor. The board for example looks bobbins. It should have been made to look like an alien infested ship for example instead of....whatever it is. Is it maybe Predator heat vision?
I'm gonna hold fire for updates and messages.


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/alien-vs-predator-the-miniatures-game

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eldargal
11-08-2013, 03:00 AM
Kind of pissed off there is no female Marines to be honest and the female predator just has giant breasts, so original. Alien was the first female led action films that I'm aware of and even the AvP films had female Marines so reducing female presence to a pair of giant ****ing predator breasts is offensive.

Mr Mystery
11-08-2013, 03:23 AM
Oh look! Not-Space-Hulk! :p Which is kind of ironic when you think about it.

energongoodie
11-08-2013, 03:25 AM
Lets see what updates there are.
I agree there should have been a kick a$$ Jenette Vasquez in the starting box but I do like the Female Predator model.
It does seem like this Kickstarter lacks something relative to others I have pledged for. I don't know.

Unlocked
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Wolfshade
11-08-2013, 03:25 AM
It looks very Space Hulk-esque...

eldargal
11-08-2013, 04:47 AM
I don't mind the predatorette, but it's really galling that in a franchise shaped by female protagonists the only woman is a stretch goal. Plus the huge breasts are a little silly.

Edit: to be fair to them, that is the established image. Google' female predator' if you want a ton images of alien breasts.

Mr Mystery
11-08-2013, 04:54 AM
Makes little sense for Predettes to have great big gert stonkers.

Surely they'd be far closer to female atheletes, in that it's predominantly muscle?

energongoodie
11-08-2013, 05:00 AM
Retract the gall.
According to the comments section there is a female marine in the box eldargal, one in the add on and more to come. I'm surprised they haven't publicised it more.

This fella has been unlocked.
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euansmith
11-08-2013, 05:02 AM
Ripley, Newt ("Hudson! This little girl survived longer than that with no weapons and no training."), Vasquez ("Okay. We have several canisters of CM-20. I say we go back in there and nerve gas the whole f***in' nest."), Ferro ("We're in the pipe, five by five"), Hudson ("No. Have you?"); Aliens featured a fist full of strong female character taking care of business. The fact that the game doesn't seems a real shame.

Wolfshade
11-08-2013, 05:08 AM
Ripley was originially intended to be male...

eldargal
11-08-2013, 05:15 AM
Ripley, Newt ("Hudson! This little girl survived longer than that with no weapons and no training."), Vasquez ("Okay. We have several canisters of CM-20. I say we go back in there and nerve gas the whole f***in' nest."), Ferro ("We're in the pipe, five by five"), Hudson ("No. Have you?"); Aliens featured a fist full of strong female character taking care of business. The fact that the game doesn't seems a real shame.
Yup, though at least there apparently is one after all. They need to advertise it better though, the Aliens franchise is a feminist icon and treating it like another male dominated setting is not good enough,

Mr Mystery
11-08-2013, 05:22 AM
Ripley was originially intended to be male...

Which is why she's such an excellent example of positive feminism. Male character, female actor. No difference in how they treat or cope with the situation.

eldargal
11-08-2013, 05:23 AM
Edit:
Actually the middle one looks like she might be female, I take it back:
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Wolfshade
11-08-2013, 05:26 AM
Heh, there are five Marine sculpts in the box, four are pictured. All male. That doesn't scream after-thought at all...

"These aren't the toys you are looking for"

eldargal
11-08-2013, 06:45 AM
65k goal met and 75k goal unveiled:
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At 85k get 5 free facehuggers added to the box:
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Still not overly convinced of the value to be honest.

Iceman
11-08-2013, 12:14 PM
At the risk of showing off what a geek I am, the original Aliens vs Predators comics had an Asian woman who fought with the Predators against the Aliens and was more or less "adopted" by them at the end of the story line. There was at least one sequel where she is shown as part of the crew. This model seems to show a human female in Predator costume so I wonder if that is what they intend.

Having said that, I don't recall her breasts being quite so dramatic.

Asymmetrical Xeno
11-08-2013, 03:31 PM
Never really had any interest in the franchise beyond "Alien" myself, but it mostly looks well sculpted/designed for the most part. I only liked the Facehuggers too, so not something id get into - but I did pledge for their Warzone KS and I was quite pleased with the quality of those models, and when I let them know my box was missing a part they sent replacements within a few days.

I would probably pledge if they had a lower level for just a few of the Facehuggers though.

GrauGeist
11-08-2013, 05:10 PM
It's really too bad that this is GBP instead of USD. If the standard pledge of $100 USD got the game and unlocks a la CMoN, I'd be all over this.

As it funded, I think I'll just wait for it to hit CoolStuff.

GrauGeist
11-08-2013, 05:12 PM
Ripley was originially intended to be male...

Weaver was very masculine.

Mike X
11-09-2013, 12:54 PM
Kind of pissed off there is no female Marines to be honest and the female predator just has giant breasts, so original. Alien was the first female led action films that I'm aware of and even the AvP films had female Marines so reducing female presence to a pair of giant ****ing predator breasts is offensive.

If you read the AvP novels, you'd also know that in Predator society the women are homemakers not allowed to hunt. Thus one of the reasons the female human who was inducted into the Predator hunting pack is looked down upon and frequently called "b*tch" (in their language).

Deadlift
11-09-2013, 01:12 PM
At the risk of showing off what a geek I am, the original Aliens vs Predators comics had an Asian woman who fought with the Predators against the Aliens and was more or less "adopted" by them at the end of the story line. There was at least one sequel where she is shown as part of the crew. This model seems to show a human female in Predator costume so I wonder if that is what they intend.

Having said that, I don't recall her breasts being quite so dramatic.

Lol I remember those comics. Darkhorse if I remember rightly. That's over 20 years ago :o.

Lukas The Trickster
11-09-2013, 01:32 PM
Sadly, so do I - off the top of my head, if memory serves (and I haven't Googled this - promise!), her name was something like Machiko Noguchi, she featured in the novels as well. As regards the Kickstarter, still undecided as to whether to pledge or not :-/

eldargal
11-09-2013, 11:16 PM
If you read the AvP novels, you'd also know that in Predator society the women are homemakers not allowed to hunt. Thus one of the reasons the female human who was inducted into the Predator hunting pack is looked down upon and frequently called "b*tch" (in their language).
The sooner they drop that misogynist ****ing bull**** the better then. **** whatever moron wrote that.

eldargal
11-11-2013, 12:33 AM
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Total just hit £130k.

Wolfshade
11-11-2013, 02:58 AM
Beserker looks like the vampire from Blade 2, oh my!

eldargal
11-11-2013, 04:26 AM
Beserker looks like the vampire from Blade 2, oh my!
I think he looks like he is doing a fangirl squeal.

Wolfshade
11-11-2013, 04:33 AM
I think he looks like he is doing a fangirl squeal.

Of course that is how I imagine you look when you go *squee*

energongoodie
11-11-2013, 04:40 AM
I'd quite like a game play vid for this now.

eldargal
11-11-2013, 06:13 AM
Of course that is how I imagine you look when you go *squee*

Well I know what I'm cosplaying next.:p Female Predator With Clothes. Clothes that work as clothes...


I'd quite like a game play vid for this now.

Ditto.

Wolfshade
11-11-2013, 06:43 AM
Well I know what I'm cosplaying next.:p Female Predator With Clothes. Clothes that work as clothes...



Ditto.

You mean not like this:

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Possibly a little bit too inspired by Lursa and B'Etor

eldargal
11-11-2013, 06:49 AM
Pretty much yup.

eldargal
11-11-2013, 10:10 AM
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eldargal
11-12-2013, 12:52 AM
The fact is anyone whining about a Kickstarte not being in their currency is being silly, regardless of nation. Having said that I think Kickstarter really should have an option to change the displayed currency into your local currency at least for pledge levels.

Wolfshade
11-12-2013, 02:37 AM
This is the message board of USA!

The ability to convert to local currency would be nice. Ah well what can you do?

eldargal
11-13-2013, 01:24 AM
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GrauGeist
11-26-2013, 12:07 PM
Just 2 more days to close, and it only pulled $250k?

I think I'm going to wait and see what happens retail this time next year.

Still, it looks like WarZone is at least partially shipped, so that's a good thing.

energongoodie
11-28-2013, 03:13 PM
I've waited to the last minute....but I'm in :)

GrauGeist
11-29-2013, 01:16 AM
Skipped it. Tho they got quite the bounce at the end.

Aspire to Glory
11-29-2013, 01:29 AM
I don't mind the predatorette, but it's really galling that in a franchise shaped by female protagonists the only woman is a stretch goal. Plus the huge breasts are a little silly.

Edit: to be fair to them, that is the established image. Google' female predator' if you want a ton images of alien breasts.

Agreed. Badass female marines that are an organic part of the setting rather than seemingly forced on the viewer is iconic to Aliens. Even at 10 years old I dug that.

I won't pitch in until I see a rad example.