lomaxxdurang
11-03-2013, 08:27 PM
So I have a curiosity question in regards to how slow and purposeful units embarked on a transport might affect the rules for firing and movement.
eg. A Mega Armored Warboss and a squad of lootas in a battlewagon. The Mega Armor gives Slow and Purposeful, the lootas are heavy.
Can the vehicle move flat out still?
If the vehicle moves at combat speed do the the lootas get full BS?
More importantly do they get full BS at cruising speed?
Rules in question:
Slow and Purposeful:
A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule cannot Run, Turbo-Boost, move Flat Out, perform sweeping advances or fire Overwatch. They can however, shoot with heavy, salvo, and ordinance weapons counting as stationary even if they moved in the previous movement phase. They are also allowed to charge in the same turn as they fire heavy, ordinance, rapid fire, or Salvo Weapons.
Fire Points:
A transport might have a number of fire points defined in its entry. A fire point is a hatch or gun slit from which one or more passengers inside the vehicle can fire shooting weapons (or use witchfire/ psychic shooting attacks).
Unless specified differently in the vehicle's entry, a single passenger can fire out of each fire point and the other transported models cannot fire. Ranges and line of sight are measured from the fire point itself. If an embarked model fires a template weapon from a fire point, discount the hit scored against the vehicle- we assume the weapon has been fired in a sufficient arc to clear the vehicles hull. Note the passengers can fire at a different target to the vehicle itself. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at combat speed count as having moved that turn. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at cruising speed can only fire snap shots that turn. They cannot fire f the vehicle moved flat out or uses smoke launchers that turn.
Open Topped Transport--- Passengers Shooting from Open-Topped Transports:
Open Topped Transports do not have specific fire points. Instead, all passengers in open topped transport can fire, measuring range and line of sight from any point along the hull of the vehicle.
eg. A Mega Armored Warboss and a squad of lootas in a battlewagon. The Mega Armor gives Slow and Purposeful, the lootas are heavy.
Can the vehicle move flat out still?
If the vehicle moves at combat speed do the the lootas get full BS?
More importantly do they get full BS at cruising speed?
Rules in question:
Slow and Purposeful:
A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule cannot Run, Turbo-Boost, move Flat Out, perform sweeping advances or fire Overwatch. They can however, shoot with heavy, salvo, and ordinance weapons counting as stationary even if they moved in the previous movement phase. They are also allowed to charge in the same turn as they fire heavy, ordinance, rapid fire, or Salvo Weapons.
Fire Points:
A transport might have a number of fire points defined in its entry. A fire point is a hatch or gun slit from which one or more passengers inside the vehicle can fire shooting weapons (or use witchfire/ psychic shooting attacks).
Unless specified differently in the vehicle's entry, a single passenger can fire out of each fire point and the other transported models cannot fire. Ranges and line of sight are measured from the fire point itself. If an embarked model fires a template weapon from a fire point, discount the hit scored against the vehicle- we assume the weapon has been fired in a sufficient arc to clear the vehicles hull. Note the passengers can fire at a different target to the vehicle itself. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at combat speed count as having moved that turn. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at cruising speed can only fire snap shots that turn. They cannot fire f the vehicle moved flat out or uses smoke launchers that turn.
Open Topped Transport--- Passengers Shooting from Open-Topped Transports:
Open Topped Transports do not have specific fire points. Instead, all passengers in open topped transport can fire, measuring range and line of sight from any point along the hull of the vehicle.