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Rough Touch
10-31-2013, 08:32 AM
do terminators uses there powerfists etc at initiative step 1? I cant see anywhere in the rules to say otherwise
I thought Slow and purposeful let them use unwieldy weapons in the normal step but then a friend said "show me that rule" I could not find it
Nabterayl
10-31-2013, 08:35 AM
Neither Slow and Purposeful (which terminators don't have) nor Relentless (which terminators do have) affects the Unwieldy rule. Only ranged weapons.
Rough Touch
10-31-2013, 08:42 AM
thanks I think I was getting mixed up with mega armour orks lol
but thank you for reply that what I was looking for. So orks I2 is worth something then!
Nabterayl
10-31-2013, 09:01 AM
Slow and Purposeful doesn't affect Unwieldy either. Meganobz use their power klaws at I1.
Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
10-31-2013, 09:04 AM
The only time a model can ignore Unwieldy (I thinkkkk) is if it's a Monstrous Creature or Walker.
Rough Touch
10-31-2013, 09:53 AM
no I mean orks I2 is still before unwieldy weapons so they can get a hit in before they die (unless they have mega amour then they would have I1)
on another note:
you seem to know the rules quite well. In the ork codex it is saying "Zagstruk's Furious Charge is at I4 with hes Vulcha's Klaws"....im guessing 5th ed Furious charge gave you +1 I and now in 6th ed its +1A right?
Nabterayl
10-31-2013, 09:56 AM
Ah, in that case, you're quite right.

As to Zagstruk ... In 5th edition, Furious Charge granted +1I and +1S. Now it only grants +1S. However, the ork FAQ (http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180058a_Orks_v1.4_APRIL13.pdf) specifies that we should ignore the parenthetical. So while Zagstruk can still use Da Vulcha's Klaws to strike at normal initiative order when he charges, despite having an Unwieldy weapon, normal initiative order for him on the charge is now only I3.
Rough Touch
10-31-2013, 11:16 AM
ok you got me going now!
1 last question
a ork warbiker charges with furious charge +1S but he also has hammer of wrath...this is a "unmodified" attack so im guessing the hammer of wrath would be at the orks starting stats right?

think im getting the hang of it all now
DarkLink
10-31-2013, 11:32 AM
Correct.
Nabterayl
10-31-2013, 11:34 AM
a ork warbiker charges with furious charge +1S but he also has hammer of wrath...this is a "unmodified" attack so im guessing the hammer of wrath would be at the orks starting stats right?

Exactly right. Hammer of Wrath is not affected by Furious Charge.
Tynskel
10-31-2013, 05:05 PM
Exactly right. Hammer of Wrath is not affected by Furious Charge.

Waaaaaaagh!