Arthfael
10-13-2013, 06:24 AM
We all know (or ought to know) that the name Eldar is a lazy ripoff of the name of one of the main kindred of elves in Tolkien's legendarium. Conveniently and perhaps prophetically, in this context Eldar actually meant the people/children of the stars.
Now, I have nothing against most high fantasy being blatantly inspired by Tolkien (he also came up with the name "Orc/Ork" after all). But specific uses of his writing systems is where I would draw the line, because this smells of laziness and is too closely associated with Tolkien's world.
Today I was looking at the attached picture from good old Rogue Trader. I really enjoy the old pictures, not because they are better but because of how much inspiration they can provide. I also like recent artwork, though the one in 6th edition codices is definitely subpar - and often recycled, badly coloured old BnW pictures. Anyway, I digress.
So, I was looking at the most famous picture of Eldar corsairs from RT era... and noticed something on the fin of the ship in the upper left corner of the image: 5280
Although this is too small to actually read, this is definitely Tengwar. I wonder if someone with a paper copy of RT could actually read that. I can read some modes of Tengwar but here the res is not enough, and whatever I can make out doesn't correlate with names for early eldar (such as the minis listed here: http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Eldar%28Warhammer_40,000_Rogue_Trader%29_-_Collectors_Guide#First_40K_Releases )
Is anyone aware of other uses of Tengwar before illustrators decided to introduce Eldar runes?
Now, I have nothing against most high fantasy being blatantly inspired by Tolkien (he also came up with the name "Orc/Ork" after all). But specific uses of his writing systems is where I would draw the line, because this smells of laziness and is too closely associated with Tolkien's world.
Today I was looking at the attached picture from good old Rogue Trader. I really enjoy the old pictures, not because they are better but because of how much inspiration they can provide. I also like recent artwork, though the one in 6th edition codices is definitely subpar - and often recycled, badly coloured old BnW pictures. Anyway, I digress.
So, I was looking at the most famous picture of Eldar corsairs from RT era... and noticed something on the fin of the ship in the upper left corner of the image: 5280
Although this is too small to actually read, this is definitely Tengwar. I wonder if someone with a paper copy of RT could actually read that. I can read some modes of Tengwar but here the res is not enough, and whatever I can make out doesn't correlate with names for early eldar (such as the minis listed here: http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Eldar%28Warhammer_40,000_Rogue_Trader%29_-_Collectors_Guide#First_40K_Releases )
Is anyone aware of other uses of Tengwar before illustrators decided to introduce Eldar runes?