Dwarves Rumor Roundup

[Bigred]

via Ajota from the Spanish Eye of Terror forums (http://server4.foros.net/index2.php?mforum=OjodelTerror) 10-8-2013

Ajota specified Dwarves are due in "early 2014".


Cosas que se oyen sobre silvanos, aunque debemos recordar que enanos sale antes, a principios de 2014:

Translated as: "Things you hear on Silvan, but we must remember that dwarves out before, in early 2014:"

Followed by...

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las novedades de enanos, próximo ejército en hacer su aparición podrían consistir en:

Megacaja Aplastador de Orcos/Tuneladora
Gran Caja Yunke Runico/Altar de Guerra
Caja Escuadron Girocopteros
Caja Atronadores/Ballesteros/Guerreros Enanos (10)
Caja Martilladores/Rompehierros
Caja Matadores/Hermandad de Grimmir
Caja Barbaslargas/Montaraces

Translated as: "dwarf news, next army to make their appearance could include:

Crusher Megacaja Orcs / TBM
Runic Yunke Big Box / War Altar
Squadron Box Gyrocopters
Thunderers Box / Ballesteros / Dwarf Warriors (10)
Hammerers Box / Ironbreaker
Matadors Box / Brotherhood of Grimmir
Longbeards Box / Rangers"

via BoLS 11-14-2013

February Release
New Plastic Lord
New Grudgethrower
New Trollslayers
New Hammerers
New Ironbreakers
More...
"Big Kit" is the Orc Crusher - a large machine.

via BoLS 1-7-2014

Dwarfs - February (I'd bet on February 8th)

The Kits:

Plastic Tunneling Vehicle
Plastic infantry heavy armor unit kit (dual-build)
Plastic infantry light armor unit kit (dual-build)

Plastic War Altar
Plastic New VERY large gun/cannon
Plastic Beefier Gyrocopter

Clampack Lord

No finecast was mentioned at all. If you look at what needs plastic kits in the existing Dwarf range, and look to the old-unit/new unit splits in the Dark Elves release for inspiration, it's not too hard to figure out what's coming.

via Warseer's "ChargeAndDie" 1-13-2014


I have tons of new rumours from my source. He was spot on with the dark elves (including the peg leg fleetmaster) so I do believe him.

Runelord can't add DD
Dwarf army can add 2 DD every magic phase
Anvil is Boune spell (can plus the S for dwarf)
Dwarf Gyrocopter(new models) can make two version:
1 is bomber(max can take 2)
2 is fight with machine gun (max can take 6)
A lot new special character
1: king of Eight Peaks
2: the engineer with big gun
All the new models are infantry (with out Gyrocopte):
1: Hammerer
2: Black smith
3: Long beard
4: Slayer
5: Irondragon(name not confirm) new shooting unit
like choas dwraf IG 4+armor S4 T4 weapon is flaming attack
(The hammerer black smith and long beard is in same box, the slayer
other box because no armor, Irondragon other box. all the new models
very cool.)
All the rune are same and warmachine too
The magic item:
1: The armor can give the user T10
Sorry for the bad English. Haven't had time to clean it up as I'm on my phone. Source also says that hammerers can get 2+ AS with a 6+ ward. Probably with a rune.>>I think these are maybe ironbreakers?

A conservative set of Dwarf rumors from Plastic Krak (http://plastickrak.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/dwarf-rumours.html) 1-15-2014


There will be a new Dual kit which will make a Throne carried by 4 Dwarves, in which Thorgrim Grudgebearer or a normal Dwarf Lord can be mounted. The kit will also make the Anvil of Doom, which is swapped out with the seat of the throne and carried by 4 Dwarves, and counts as a mount for a Runelord. The model will be on a 60x100 base and is pictured in a unit.

There is a new infantry plastic kit which can make Hammerers and Iron Breakers. The Hammerers are armed with great weapons (Hammers) and the Iron Breakers have hand weapon and shield (axes). The bodies are the same for both with head and weapon swaps.

The other infantry kit is a Troll Slayer unit that can also make a new unit of Berserkers. The kit also makes a giant slayer.

The new single plastic figure is a Thane holding a hammer.

All the existing plastics remain.

Note the lack of word regarding any large machines or gyrocopters. Source might not have information on them, or they could be wishlisting.

via Rumormonger emeritus Harry: (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?387531-Newer-Dwarf-Rumors&p=7045932&viewfull=1#post7045932) 1-22-2014


"Is what you heard on the ironbreakers that they are moving towards the tank like appearance they had in the Warhammer Online concept art?"

"Yes. To the point that you can't see any Dwarf. :)
No visible beard ... totally encased in armour."


1-27-2014
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You will note the lack of finecast.

There is also no Army Book for Dwarfs in the first half of Februrary

Apparently GW is testing a new miniatures first - armybook later weekly schedule...

via GrottoKnight on Warseer 2-2-2014

-Yes Belegar has gromril. His Oathstone will be an extra points upgrade
-Thunderers/Quarrellers are CORE and RARE currently
-Gyrocopter is coming (see picture behind Slayer in video in "what's new"
-pg 27 of the WD says "Next week: Engineering Madness" in Designer Notes
-I would like to note that the Hammerers use GROMRIL hammers

ARMY RULES
It's basically 3 rules:
-Ancestral grudge, roll a D6 before the first turn. On 1-2 your general hates the enemy's general. On 3-4 your characters hate all enemy characters. On 5-6 your army hates the entire enemy army.
-Resolute, charging units have +1 strength
-Relentless, cannot be marchblocked.
(NOTICE: no -1 to flee and pursue rolls? I figured this would go with how movement and charging changed and all.)

via EddieJA on Warseer 2-2-2014

'So, I don't know if this has been discussed already, but a LGS near me was accidentally selling next week's White Dwarf early. The Dwarfs have a Gyrobomber coming, this kit also makes a new Gyrocopter. They are also getting a new Runelord, and Engineer Character, and the next White Dwarf has a picture of the new Dwarf Army Book. Also, if you look closely, you can see new Dwarf Ironbreakers. This new Ironbreakers kit also looks like it builds some kind of blunderbuss wielding shooting unit. This blunderbuss carrying unit might also have the option to build some kind of flamethrower gun, I'm not sure.

New kits:

New Gyrobomber/Gyrocopter kit.
Engineer Character.
New Runelord.

via Anonymous Source on Faeit 2-7-2014

Dwarven Rules:
Ancestral Grudge - hatred Skaven/Greenskins; everyone else has a chart.
Dwarf Made - Re rolls
Resolute - +1 Strength on the charge
Relentless - no leadership for marching close to an enemy
Shieldwall - +1 parry when charged

Warriors: Stayed the same but with the new rules above.
Thunders/Quarrlers: +1 point, with new rules above and heavy armor
Longbeards: new rules above + old longbeard rules, +1 point, no longer 1 unit for every unit of warriors.

Hammers: don't remember points but looked the same; if general is present in unit, any, ANY model can accept a challenge.

Iron Breakers: pretty much the same, +1 parry bonus always!, stacks with Shieldwall rule, so 4+ ward save if charged!

Gyrobomber thing: in movement phase can drop bombs (place large blast, scatter, if it still hits a unit it passed over then resolve wounds, scatter from the center hole again with a small blast as bomb bounces). In the shooting phase it can shoot its cannon.

New Unit - IronDrakes (Rare): Good stat line, handheld flame cannon (str5, 18", armor piercing, dwarf made, flaming attacks, ), they also have armor gromil-proven armor (I think) that gives 4+/6+ward/2+ward vs. flaming attacks.

Added characters: (2) seen in white dwarf weekly, Ungrim Slayer-King, Joseph Bugman, High King Thorgrim, don't remember if Thorek is in there.

So a bit of an update. These are torn from the pages of the book that is due February 15th. I cannot post the images to keep my source safe, Natfka safe, etc.

No plastic slayers. This doesn't mean they aren't coming (because we don't have finecast versions and still metal) in plastic; just means that at the time of the books production they were not ready or painted. We have seen this before.

via Saldiven (bugman) 2-9-2014


The Gyrocopter is a Special choice, and you can take up to 6. They are not squadrons; there's just a little note that says you can take six of them.

The Gyrobomber is a Rare choice.

Rangers are, in fact, a Rare choice, as well.

Gromril armor is just a 4+ save; I don't recall there being a ward save included as well.

Dwarf Crafted is a rule for missile weapons. It allows the weapon to be fired as a Stand and Shoot reaction without the -1 penalty.

The thing that surprised me the most about the book is the large number of ways that you can get the Multiple Wounds (d3). It's freaking everywhere.

Another thing is the Rune that's a better version of Red Fury. If you take three Runes of Fury, the model gets +1 Attack, Frenzy, and for every successful To-Hit roll, the model makes another attack roll; these bonus attacks do not generate additional attacks. If you put that on a Lord, it would have 6 attacks that could theoretically generate another 6. In case you didn't notice, the extra attacks are generated by successful To-Hit rolls, not wounds.

Oh, yeah, the Flame Cannon now has two firing modes. The first is just like a regular Flame Cannon from the main rule book. Alternatively, it can be overcharged so that you can nominate a point up to 12" from the Flame Cannon to be the point from which the artillery die roll originates for determining where the template ends up. But, if you fire in this mode and roll a misfire, you subtract 1 from the roll on the black powder weapon misfire table.

Hrm. Lemme see what I can remember. Most things have Heavy Armor now, even the artillery crew, if I remember correctly. The new units are the Bomber and the Iron Drakes. I don't recall any others.

Slayers didn't really change much, I don't think. I never played them before. They still have the Slayer Axe rule. They can never wound anything on worse than a 4+. There's a special character Slayer that has a 3+/4++, and if you take him, he can be the Army General.

The Organ Gun is now BS based, but rolls two artillery dice, rather than one. It can be given up to 50 points of Runes, and there's a +1 to hit Rune. Also, the range is now 30"; I seem to remember that it was 24" before. Is my memory correct in that.

The 'Copter has a once per game Diver Bomber attack that is kind of similar to the Drop Rocks attack of that flying unit in the Lizardmen book have. The basic weapon for the 'Copter is a S3 Flame Template, but can be traded for free to a 18" S5 Multiple Shot (4) gun. I'm pretty sure it's 4 shots. Up to half of the 'Copters in the army (rounded up) can be given a 20 point upgrade that allows them a Vanguard move. I'm really liking the idea of Vanguarding up a couple of them to move into position to five the template down the length of units from outside their charge arc.

The Master Rune of Balance only steals a die on a roll of 4+. All the rune-guys can channel.

I wasn't really impressed with the Anvil. The first power makes all friendly units within 12" (or it might be 24", can't remember) Immune to Psychology for a turn. The next one buffs a target unit's Armor Save by one (I think, really not sure on this one, can't remember for sure). And the last one is a S4 magic missile that inflicts 2d6 hits, I believe. They all work like bound spells.

Daemon Slayers make their opponent re-roll successful ward saves. Dragon Slayers have the Multiple Wound (d3) rule.

Oh, the bomb thing that the 'Drakes can get is an 8" range weapon that functions kind of like a Stone Thrower. I can't remember the Strength of it. It seems kind of risky, though, since to be close enough to use it, you're close enough for it to land back on top of you.

I believe that Ironbreakers and Hammerers are both 14 points, base. 'Breakers can get a shield for 1 point. Sheildwall is a rule that on the turn the unit is charged, they get +1 to their Parry save. There's another rule that's like "Gromril Shield Wall" or something, and I think I remember that this gives the +1 to Parry save at all times.

One thing for sure, Dwarves will no longer be shutting down the magic phase. Rune-guys can channel for Dispel Dice, but don't automatically provide them. The army gets a base +2 to attempt to dispel, regardless of what's in the army. The Master Rune of Valaya adds another +2 to dispel, and will dispel any RiP spell on a roll (can't remember the target number, I think it's a 3+) at the beginning of the Magic Phase. There's no range, so any RiP spell on the table has to be rolled for.

I'll look for more specifics on the Rune-guys tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure you can still take multiple Runes of Spellbreaking. The Spelleating one still exists, too.

Like I said, I might be mistaken about the dispel dice thing; I didn't read the book cover-to-cover, or anything. I'm very confident about the +2 to dispel; but there might also be somewhere else that mentions additional "free" dispel dice.

Oh, I actually kind of like the Oathstone now. I never used it in the last book, but I seem to remember that if you planted the Oathstone, the unit couldn't move anymore. Or was that the previous army book? Anyway, the Oathstone doesn't now prevent the unit from moving. The unit can use Parry saves in any direction and cannot have their ranks Disrupted.

The base 'Copter cost is 80. The Vanguard move upgrade is 20 points.

No big centerpiece model. In fact, the only unit types in the book are Infantry, Warmachine, and "Unique."

The Flame Cannon also has Multiple Wounds (d3).
@blind bum: It's the actual army book. By "demo book," meant that it was a single copy given to the store. They used to do this a lot before. The store owner was actually willing to sell it to me today, but I didn't want to take it away from all the other people that might want to look at it just to have it a week earlier than normal.

Miners use regular Ambush rules now. They can be upgraded to have a single use missile weapon, but I kind of thought it was too expensive for what it does. The Drill still exists and gives a +1 to the roll to see if they show up.

I actually kind of like Ironbreakers. With Shields, they are T4 with a 3+/5++. They're 14 points, just like Hammerers. Hammerers are more offensive minded, but still only have a 5+ save from the Heavy Armor.

Slayers did have one cool rule, but dunno how worthwhile it'll be in play. If a close combat attack (excluding Impact Hits) reduces a Slayer to 0 wounds, that Slayer model makes a free attack right then before pulling the model. Other than the special timing of the Attack, it's treated like a regular attack roll. This includes being killed by Stomp, for example. So, if you're facing something like Ogres, when the Ogres swing, the models they kill automatically attack back. Then the remaining eligible Slayers make their regular attacks. Then, any models killed by the Ogres' Stomp attack make their free attacks.

I kind of remember that just a lot of units have Shieldwall. I know I remember that regular old Warriors have the rule. Ironbreakers have the upgraded rule (something like Gromril Shieldwall, or something) that allows them to (I believe) have the bonus +1 to Parry all the time. I'll check to make sure tomorrow.

Dwarves do NOT have access to the Main Rulebook magic items, but they have an extensive listing of

Runic items. There's one page of unique Runic items. Two pages of weapon runes. One page each for Armor, Standard, Talisman, and Warmachine Runes. So, all told, a total seven pages of what amount to Magic Items, with a huge amount of customization possible. Several runes can be taken multiple times, with each additional rune bringing an added benefit. My favorite example is the one I posted earlier with the Rune of Fury: 1 gives you +1 Attack; 2 gives you +1 Attack and Frenzy; 3 gives you +1 Attack, Frenzy, and each successful To-Hit roll results in a bonus attack (bonus attacks do not generate additional attacks). On a Lord, that means he's got a chance of 12 attacks.

Master Engineers allow re-rolls to a dice involved in firing warmachines. If the Engineer is within 3" of a Warmachine, he can take a Look Out Sir! roll from shooting attacks, and successful rolls divert the shot to the Warmachine. There's more, but that's all I can remember right now.

Oh, Bugman allows you to convert one unit of Rangers into what might as well be Longbeard Rangers, but if you do, then Bugman must start in that unit and cannot leave it. It costs an extra 3 points per model, and the Rangers get +1 to WS/S/and I think Initiative, but not positive about the last stat. He still has the healing draught cup. He also has a special rule where each turn you roll two dice and look at a chart to see what affect his Ale has on the affected units (can't remember which units are affected). A roll of 2 kinda sucks. There are two other effects, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I think one is Immune to Psychology until the next Dwarf turn. I think the other is +1 Toughness til the next Dwarf turn; it's something like that because the fluff for it talks about how the Dwarves are kinda hammered and can't feel pain anymore.

I'm almost certain it's one free attack per slain Slayer. However, it gets to use whatever special rules apply to that attack. So, if you were swinging with the Great Weapon Slayer Axe, it's getting the bonus Strength. If it's a character with a Runic Weapon, the attack has the benefits of the Runic Weapon. Oh, here's an interesting one. I'm pretty sure it was one of the Special Characters, but there's a way to get +3 to the roll at the beginning of the game to see what kind of Hatred you get. So, with that guy, the whole army has Hatred of the other guy's army on a 2+ roll. I wanna say it's the super expensive Dwarf King guy (he's like 650 points), but not positive.

[Mr Mystery]

Man, not looking forward to Stunties!

Being a Dark Elf, Ogre, Orc and Skaven player, do I not like Stunties!

[angrybear]

I am excited to see the new dwarfs not because I like them but because they have the worst book in warhammer (gameplay not powerwise). My friend plays dwarves and he stopped playing them because they are no fun for him or me. They really need a new book and I am curious to see where gw takes them.

[mearn4d10]

I am excited to see the new dwarfs not because I like them but because they have the worst book in warhammer (gameplay not powerwise). My friend plays dwarves and he stopped playing them because they are no fun for him or me. They really need a new book and I am curious to see where gw takes them.

You now, that's why I haven't played more than two games of the current edition. Maybe, MAYBE, GW can rekindle the spark of Karak Kuthak...

[Justus Ackermann]

via Ajota from the Spanish Eye of Terror forums (http://server4.foros.net/index2.php?mforum=OjodelTerror) 10-8-2013

Ajota specified Dwarves are due in "early 2014".



Translated as: "Things you hear on Silvan, but we must remember that dwarves out before, in early 2014:"

Followed by...

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Translated as: "dwarf news, next army to make their appearance could include:

Crusher Megacaja Orcs / TBM
Runic Yunke Big Box / War Altar
Squadron Box Gyrocopters
Thunderers Box / Ballesteros / Dwarf Warriors (10)
Hammerers Box / Ironbreaker
Matadors Box / Brotherhood of Grimmir
Longbeards Box / Rangers"

Couple of translation improvements: ;)

Megacaja probably just refers to the box itself, since "caja" is box. That would build either an "Orccrusher" then, or some Tunneling-device (tunelador is "tunneling")
Caja is box again, Yunke means Anvil, so the next box builds either an Anvil of Doom, or said War Altar
The rest is clear, with Ballesteros most definitely referring to Crossbow Dwarfs of course.

[Joker1972]

Great news as they needed a new book :)

[King Chud]

I can't wait to see all the magic rune upgrades gone for artillery and items gone, and all the BS about dispel dice they get. Most dwarf players go crazy overload to shut down magic. Dwarves don't stand up to Ogres or WoC that great. They can't handle Str 4 armies. multiple attacks, and armor. I would like to see a remedy for some of their deficiencies in melee.

[Forgotten Heretic]

Brilliant, I have been waiting for such news for a long time. Looks like the warriors will be getting the same treatment as the Dark Elf warriors.

[Justus Ackermann]

I can't wait to see all the magic rune upgrades gone for artillery and items gone, and all the BS about dispel dice they get. Most dwarf players go crazy overload to shut down magic. Dwarves don't stand up to Ogres or WoC that great. They can't handle Str 4 armies. multiple attacks, and armor. I would like to see a remedy for some of their deficiencies in melee.

Are we talking about two different Dwarf armies? Can't handle S4? They handle them better than most. I don't see deficiencies in melee, Dwarves are tough, have excellent armor themselves, a lot of units have great weapons, they have the highest leadership in the game etc. They indeed shut down magic quite efficiently, and I wouldn't be surprised if that will change a bit. As for the classical deficiencies, Dwarves are bad at taking the initiative (haha), but it is very rare that I fear a melee. That being said, I agree with angrybear, the gameplay for Dwarf armies is very uninspired nowadays, they really need some fresh blood.

[damage]

I'm mostly looking forward to new plastic sculpts. I get that squat bodies with long beards make it tough to make multi-pose models, but come on guys, you can do it. That being said, "squadron box gyrocopters," yum.

[Justus Ackermann]

Slayers are called Matadores in Spanish Warhammer
(BolS Frontpage "Dwarves Latest" has ??? behind them...)

[KaiZie]

OrcCrusher / TBM
Runic Anvil / War Altar
Squadron Box Gyrocopters
Thunderers Box / Crossbow / Dwarf Warriors (10)
Hammerers Box / Ironbreaker
Slayers Box / Brotherhood of Grimmir
Longbeards Box / Rangers

C&P from the front page, just so we are all on the same page and save a bit of confusion

[Mr Mystery]

Oh good. Just what the Stunties needed. More sodding Gyrocopters..... Well, out of spite, here's hoping they remain a sod to build!

(sorry. Bad karma with Gyrocopters)

[Bigred]

OP updated


February Release
New Plastic Lord
New Grudgethrower
New Trollslayers
New Hammerers
New Ironbreakers
More...
"Big Kit" is the Orc Crusher - a large machine.

[CAL3B]

Just throwing this out there as something I noticed. But of you go to the GW webpage and the first of four news slides shows a Dwarf machine throwing iron heads covered in snow, for the "find a perfect present" ad. Could be nothing but a cool machine they wanted to just put up or possibly an idea of what the Orc crusher will look like, just an observation.

[Mr Mystery]

I'm wondering about that too.

Looks like a Grudge Thrower / Goblin Hewer hybrid.

[Kirsten]

looks very Thundercats...

[Houghten]

Cosas que se oyen sobre silvanos, aunque debemos recordar que enanos sale antes, a principios de 2014:

Translated as: "Things you hear on Silvan, but we must remember that dwarves out before, in early 2014:"

I think I would translate "silvanos" as "wood elves" instead.

[robrodgers46]

Hmm, a tank that throws multiple GT shots at a high rate of fire. I would call that an Orc Crusher. That engineer looks so happy, too.

[Karath]

Hey, just want to say that I am very much looking forward to these new releases. I have recently started painting and playing with my very old dwarf army and whilst enjoying it I have come to realise quite how boring the army book is. Thanks for posting these rumours!

[wulfen777]

Hmmm... I should be looking forward to new Dwarf stuff but there also is the fear that they really mess it up. I hope the "big stuff" for the Dwarfs (every army seems to get that nowadays) won't be too ridiculous...

[Lord-Boofhead]

Just throwing this out there as something I noticed. But of you go to the GW webpage and the first of four news slides shows a Dwarf machine throwing iron heads covered in snow, for the "find a perfect present" ad. Could be nothing but a cool machine they wanted to just put up or possibly an idea of what the Orc crusher will look like, just an observation.

Given there is also a picture of Night Gobbos using a catapult to return fire with squigs covered in snow in the snowball fight I don't think so...

[Karath]

So no new news... Would this seem to show that a Dwarf update is less likely?

[Mr Mystery]

I think it's more that it's a while off.

December WD is Tyranids, with many expecting it to a a two month release ala Dark Elves, meaning the earliest we'll see the next release is February/March.

[spaceman91]

Anyone know why there's so little info? My stuntys want shiny things

[Chronowraith]

I think Mr Mystery nailed it. It's just a time thing. Dwarfs aren't rumored until February at the earliest and possibly not until March.

[Karath]

Meh, I heard January, February and March for release dates...


Anyone know why there's so little info? My stuntys want shiny things

...Buy more Ironbreakers? ;-)

[spaceman91]

Meh, I heard January, February and March for release dates...



...Buy more Ironbreakers? ;-)

Not shiny enough.

[Mysterion]

While Dwarfs are outdated they still have a few nasty combos. I'll never forget running into a horde of Hammerers with a Thane and a grudge stone. It wasn't a pleasant experience... Some of their models really do need plastic kits though.

[Mr Mystery]

What I hope we don't see is any big monstery kit. That would be about as Dwarven as giving them Cavalry.

Honking bit artillery? Absolutely. But ideally geared toward smooshing up units. Dwarfs typically have a pretty good time against Monsters as is, thanks to their numerous cannon and bolt throwers!

[Chronowraith]

I don't know. Some of the books mention Dwarven cities protected by huge golems made of earth. I'd be okay with that... although I'd prefer something mechanical... Zepplin maybe?

[spaceman91]

I don't know. Some of the books mention Dwarven cities protected by huge golems made of earth. I'd be okay with that... although I'd prefer something mechanical... Zepplin maybe?
Zeplin FTW

[Mr Mystery]

I don't know. Some of the books mention Dwarven cities protected by huge golems made of earth. I'd be okay with that... although I'd prefer something mechanical... Zepplin maybe?

As long as they aren't about squishing monsters, that could be alright I guess (not that I'm giving orders :) )

Monsters already suffer against Dwarfs, as they tend to need to break units quickly, and are vulnerable to artillery. Dwarfs don't break. Dwarfs have lots of artillery....

[Lord-Boofhead]

I don't know. Some of the books mention Dwarven cities protected by huge golems made of earth.

Where? Care to cite some references?

[spaceman91]

This may be controversial but I would like them to keep runes just the way they are (with a bit of polish) I like them as is. All those custom options you can use.

[Karath]

I agree regarding runes. My prediction: An Ubercopter, twice the size of a gyrocopter with a cannon. Whooosh!

[BoW Ben]

My wishlist and thoughts on what could be coming...

Boxed Sets:-
Warriors/Longbeards
Thunderers/Quarrellers
Ironbreakers/Hammerers
Miners
Slayers

Probably all going to stay as ten man boxes following the trend (so glad I already have an existing 3.5k+ army of stunties).

I'd like to see some monstrous infantry of some kind and that could work well since in the Time of Legend they did have the Gronti Duraz. As they have scaled back the conflict to post-Storm of Chaos too this would be a perfect time to 'wake them up'. It takes a considerable amount of Runesmiths/Runelords to do this though as we found out in The Great Betrayal.

I reckon we'll see the Cannon/Organ Gun kit remain the same and as people have speculated maybe a new plastic Grudgethrower that can also be changed into something else. maybe paired with the Bolt Thrower. Flame Cannon might end up in the same kind of duel artillery kit.

Would love to see plastic Gyrocopters, possibly as a group of three.

Runes should, in my opinion, stay as close to they are now. We certainly don't want to be drawing from the main rulebook and we love the ability to make wonderfully unique items for a variety of situations. It's pragmatic and sensible Dwarfen logic.

In terms of a big kit I guess we could see either an Airship like they have in the Warhammer rulebook or something like a crushing machine that was mentioned as a rumour earlier on. There is an image of one that looks a lot like a shrine in some of the divider artwork of the main rulebook.

I'm most looking forward to the special characters. We'll see Thorgrim of course alongside Thorek and Bugman but maybe we'll see Urgrim the Slayer King and some other interesting characters from the lore. Garagrim would be fun too.

I still hold out hope for Gotrek & Felix to return in some way - but who knows.

[Karath]

...maybe we'll see Urgrim the Slayer King and some other interesting characters from the lore. Garagrim would be fun too.

I still hold out hope for Gotrek & Felix to return in some way - but who knows.

That would be nice, would be able to use my old models. :-)

...But I would have to repaint them first!

[spaceman91]

There is only one model that I want updating and that's the lord with shield bearers ( he has a name but can't remember it). Love that model but until it goes FC or plastic I won't get it.

[BoW Ben]

That would be King Alrik and his Shield Bearers if I'm not mistaken. A very good model indeed :)

[mearn4d10]

What I hope we don't see is any big monstery kit. That would be about as Dwarven as giving them Cavalry.

Bear Calvary. 'Nuff Said.

[spaceman91]

Anyone know why it's so quiet on the rumor front. The nids had info in November, thats 2 months before release and I thought we were meant to be next so we should of had a bit more by now.

[Bigred]

OP Updated:

via BoLS 1-7-2014

Dwarfs - February (I'd bet on February 8th)

The Kits:

Plastic Tunneling Vehicle
Plastic infantry heavy armor unit kit (dual-build)
Plastic infantry light armor unit kit (dual-build)

Plastic War Altar
Plastic New VERY large gun/cannon
Plastic Beefier Gyrocopter

Clampack Lord

No finecast was mentioned at all. If you look at what needs plastic kits in the existing Dwarf range, and look to the old-unit/new unit splits in the Dark Elves release for inspiration, it's not too hard to figure out what's coming.

[Jimmynurgle]

The Heavy kit is likely Ironbreakers/Hammerers, but what would the light be.. a redo of Warriors that can be done into Longbeards? Or prehaps Longbeards/Miners?

[Mr Mystery]

Miners are a really new kit.

Well. I say really new.

Most recent in the stunty line.

As are Warriors along issue Thunderers/Quarrelers.

[BoW Ben]

Most likely going to be a Warrior/Longbeard kit - maybe they will have different weapon choices? Gyrocopter sounds awesome. I have plans to make an Engineer wing of my Dwarf army so will be looking into that.

[Galushi]

Hmm.. Heavy Armor dual kit and Light Armor dual kit. I wonder if that's strictly Heavy Armor per rules or just heavy looking. Considering Dwarfs have a mix of 4 types armor I wonder if there might be a new type of core/special unit or if they've got creative with the dual kits. Id be a little skeptical of Ironbreakers and Hammerers sharing a kit since I'd hope Gromril Armor looks a bit different from the heavy armor of Hammerers. I also think the Warrior kit is pretty solid for making Warriors/Longbeards and the Thunderer kit already handles Thunderers/Quarellers well. I'd LOVE to see a plastic kit for Slayers and hopefully the revised rules will bring them up to par. Unbreakable is amazing and they kill monsters awesomely, but they are expensive as heck for how squishy they are.

All in all, plastic kits for Ironbreakers, Hammerers, and possibly Slayers are sorely needed.

[Justus Ackermann]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's going to be Ironbreakers/Hammerers. And concerning the different look of Gromril Armour vs. Heavy Armour - they will feature different heads and most likely different arms, this way you can change the look of the armour dramatically. Also, people were hoping for Hammerers with Gromril Armour for a long time ;) Just give Ironbreakers a stone rune on top of it and everyone is happy. The other kits would be Warriors/Longbeards and Thunderers/Quarrelers. I can easily imagine Slayers moving to core, there have been some similar shifts in the army lists both of High and Dark Elves, especially if you consider that these new war machines will likely at least take 1-2 of the elite choices. With Slayers still in there, it would be to crowded. If we think back to the early Spanish rumor, a plastic Slayer kit would be dual-use with a new unit called "Brotherhood of Grimnir", that sounds like a rare choice unit. That would also fit with the new Elven units. This rumor also spoke of a War Altar, probably dual use with a Anvil of Doom, so I could see a Slayer character mounting that thing. Oh the glorious times ahead!

[Jimmynurgle]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's going to be Ironbreakers/Hammerers. And concerning the different look of Gromril Armour vs. Heavy Armour - they will feature different heads and most likely different arms, this way you can change the look of the armour dramatically. Also, people were hoping for Hammerers with Gromril Armour for a long time ;) Just give Ironbreakers a stone rune on top of it and everyone is happy. The other kits would be Warriors/Longbeards and Thunderers/Quarrelers. I can easily imagine Slayers moving to core, there have been some similar shifts in the army lists both of High and Dark Elves, especially if you consider that these new war machines will likely at least take 1-2 of the elite choices. With Slayers still in there, it would be to crowded. If we think back to the early Spanish rumor, a plastic Slayer kit would be dual-use with a new unit called "Brotherhood of Grimnir", that sounds like a rare choice unit. That would also fit with the new Elven units. This rumor also spoke of a War Altar, probably dual use with a Anvil of Doom, so I could see a Slayer character mounting that thing. Oh the glorious times ahead!

If Slayers are moving to Core (and it is a good argument for it).. Yay for the return of all slayer armies! Now we just need FW to bring back the Slayer Goblin Hewer!!!!

[Galushi]

Hammerers in gromril armor would be awesome. Probably my favorite unit due to their killing power and stubborn.

I really hope one of the other kits isnt Warriors/Longbeards or Thunderers/Quarellers. Those kits are fine.

[angrybear]

Some new rumors from Warseer by "ChargeAndDie" (got a great track record with rumours about the dark elves).

I have tons of new rumours from my source. He was spot on with the dark elves (including the peg leg fleetmaster) so I do believe him.


Runelord can't add DD
Dwarf army can add 2 DD every magic phase
Anvil is Boune spell (can plus the S for dwarf)
Dwarf Gyrocopter(new models) can make two version:
1 is bomber(max can take 2)
2 is fight with machine gun (max can take 6)
A lot new special character
1: king of Eight Peaks
2: the engineer with big gun
All the new models are infantry (with out Gyrocopte):
1: Hammerer
2: Black smith
3: Long beard
4: Slayer
5: Irondragon(name not confirm) new shooting unit
like choas dwraf IG 4+armor S4 T4 weapon is flaming attack
(The hammerer black smith and long beard is in same box, the slayer
other box because no armor, Irondragon other box. all the new models
very cool.)
All the rune are same and warmachine too
The magic item:
1: The armor can give the user T10
Sorry for the bad English. Haven't had time to clean it up as I'm on my phone. Source also says that hammerers can get 2+ AS with a 6+ ward. Probably with a rune.>>I think these are maybe ironbreakers?

[Bigred]

A more conservative version of the upcoming Dwarf rumors from Plastic Krak (http://plastickrak.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/dwarf-rumours.html)


There will be a new Dual kit which will make a Throne carried by 4 Dwarves, in which Thorgrim Grudgebearer or a normal Dwarf Lord can be mounted. The kit will also make the Anvil of Doom, which is swapped out with the seat of the throne and carried by 4 Dwarves, and counts as a mount for a Runelord. The model will be on a 60x100 base and is pictured in a unit.

There is a new infantry plastic kit which can make Hammerers and Iron Breakers. The Hammerers are armed with great weapons (Hammers) and the Iron Breakers have hand weapon and shield (axes). The bodies are the same for both with head and weapon swaps.

The other infantry kit is a Troll Slayer unit that can also make a new unit of Berserkers. The kit also makes a giant slayer.

The new single plastic figure is a Thane holding a hammer.

All the existing plastics remain.

Note the lack of word regarding any large machines or gyrocopters. Source might not have information on them, or they could be wishlisting.

[Justus Ackermann]

Quite believable so far concerning the unit kits. Fits the original Spanish rumors.
I am pretty sure though that there will be some new large machine or so. EVERY army got something like that. And I will be going berserk if we get nothing, quite frankly.

[Mr Mystery]

Little food for thought guys....

With the advent of WD Weekly, releases are also going weekly.

Could mean a larger than expected raft of Stunty models?

[evanger]

Little food for thought guys....

With the advent of WD Weekly, releases are also going weekly.

Could mean a larger than expected raft of Stunty models?

We can only hope!

[Justus Ackermann]

Since when are Hammerers (except command squad) and Ironbreakers not available from the GW homepage anymore? I think it has been a while, hasn't it?

[Dimitrios]

I have to say, I've not been overly enthused with fantasy for quite some time, however this little rumour of dwarven lovin' gets my juices going!! I'm looking forward to getting a model or two and expanding my collection :)

[angrybear]

I am really curious about this release. The rumours are so diverse. I still hope for some kind of Golem because I love a nice centerpiece monster (Hoping for a dragonage kind of golem:rolleyes:). The plastic krak rumour however seems a bit blank.

[Dimitrios]

I am really curious about this release. The rumours are so diverse. I still hope for some kind of Golem because I love a nice centerpiece monster (Hoping for a dragonage kind of golem:rolleyes:). The plastic krak rumour however seems a bit blank.

To quote a poster on Warseer:


Originally Posted by beerbeard
I hope we get real news soon, or I'm going to strip naked, coat myself with pig fat, and go kill something.

[spaceman91]

To quote a poster on Warseer:

Beerbeard does know that he only needs to put that in his hair. Slayers aren't greased up deaf guys.

[Mr Mystery]

Beerbeard does know that he only needs to put that in his hair. Slayers aren't greased up deaf guys.

That's why you can catch a Slayer.

[spaceman91]

That's why you can catch a Slayer.
If you can get close enough to try and catch a slayer then you have probably lost a limb or two

[Kim Sandberg]

Dwarf spotted in the new ''White Dwarf Weekly'' 6793

[Wildeybeast]

That's all the picture we get? Where's the rest?

[Kim Sandberg]

Thats all they released themselfs!

[Bigred]

Next we have this tidbit regarding an upcoming Dwarf unit from Rumormonger emeritus Harry: (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?387531-Newer-Dwarf-Rumors&p=7045932&viewfull=1#post7045932)


"Is what you heard on the ironbreakers that they are moving towards the tank like appearance they had in the Warhammer Online concept art?"

"Yes. To the point that you can't see any Dwarf. :)
No visible beard ... totally encased in armour."

[Mr Mystery]

Interesting. WD front cover mentions a paint splatter about painting the new Longbeards.

[eldargal]

That sounds arousing. I mean awesome. I always liked the Ironbreaker art from Warhammer Online.

[Mr Mystery]

And how long until people start using them to make Squat armies?

(sorry, wanted to reset the Squat clock. Twice in one post. Take THAT Squats!)

[angrybear]

The new hammers and slayer hero really look good (credits to Neobuzzard from bugman). Excited for this new release.

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[eldargal]

Ooh they look nice, more serious dwarf less cartoon dwarf.

[Justus Ackermann]

The new hammers and slayer hero really look good (credits to Neobuzzard from bugman). Excited for this new release.

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Not bad, not bad at all! Not completely sure about the helmets yet, they give me a vague impression of tin soldiers (ironic for warhammer, I know), but the overall armor looks very dwarven. And the hammers look awesome! Very much looking forward to the new Longbeards (stupid GW to give that away on their own webpage *gg*) and Ironbreakers, I can already picture them with different heads on those wonderful hammerers armor.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Those are some great-looking stunties. They've needed new models for a very long time.

[Chronowraith]

The Hammerers remind me of LotR dwarves (which is a good thing). Overall I like the armor and the hammers and I agree that its nice to see them move even slightly away from the cartoony dwarves of past.

I've never been fond of the slayer aesthetic... it's too much 80's biker gang for me. That being said, I love the thematic base and would buy the figure just for that (if it was priced appropriately... which it won't be since all the plastic clampacks have been roughly 20 dollars).

[Proteus]

I like em all. I am sure dwarf collectors will be happy.

The criticised over the top pose of the Slayer is perfect for the subject matter. Slayers after all are supposed to be the kind of cuckoo crazy, out-of-their-mind berserkers, who would jump form a high point onto a giants head, grab his ear with one hand, holding on to their not-so-dear-anymore lives, while bashing his face with an axe with the other hand.

The hammerers look like proper elite dwarf. A huge improvement over the lackluster old ones. I totally don't get some of the criticism on other forums regarding the noses. They still look like dwarfs, and whatever minutae detalis that might look off, don't destroy the overall badass "dwarfishnes" of the models. Same goes for the shoulder pads, I find it hard to believe that at this point after all we've seen of the garish Warhammer designs, anybody can still complain about some piece of armour being "impractical".

The models make me sad though that the good looking and effective but at the same time rather simple and cartoony Warhammer designs, get so much attention from the desing team and dynamic, eye-catching models, while the much more intricate, better and more thought-out Weta designs for LOTR dwarfs are getting such bland, lackluster sculpts from Perry twins.

These guys should recieve the same kind of eye cathing poses, sculpt quality and attention:

http://i.imgur.com/Wooju8E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uJEz2Cz.jpg
http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/00069-m2ts_000236319.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oYfxTxa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gXiYD8e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZsnKuT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LMLmHIC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DOjZlLF.jpg
http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/00069-m2ts_000261302.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1UrMX2j.jpg

[angrybear]

I like em all. I am sure dwarf collectors will be happy.

The criticised over the top pose of the Slayer is perfect for the subject matter. Slayers after all are supposed to be the kind of cuckoo crazy, out-of-their-mind berserkers, who would jump form a high point onto a giants head, grab his ear with one hand, holding on to their not-so-dear-anymore lives, while bashing his face with an axe with the other hand.

The hammerers look like proper elite dwarf. A huge improvement over the lackluster old ones. I totally don't get some of the criticism on other forums regarding the noses. They still look like dwarfs, and whatever minutae detalis that might look off, don't destroy the overall badass "dwarfishnes" of the models. Same goes for the shoulder pads, I find it hard to believe that at this point after all we've seen of the garish Warhammer designs, anybody can still complain about some piece of armour being "impractical".

The models make me sad though that the good looking and effective but at the same time rather simple and cartoony Warhammer designs, get so much attention from the desing team and dynamic, eye-catching models, while the much more intricate, better and more thought-out Weta designs for LOTR dwarfs are getting such bland, lackluster sculpts from Perry twins.

These guys should recieve the same kind of eye cathing poses, sculpt quality and attention:

http://i.imgur.com/Wooju8E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uJEz2Cz.jpg
http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/00069-m2ts_000236319.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oYfxTxa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gXiYD8e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZsnKuT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LMLmHIC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DOjZlLF.jpg
http://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/00069-m2ts_000261302.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1UrMX2j.jpg

While I agree those are some amazing dwarfs with eye catching details. There are many different dwarfs and warhammer dwarfs are really different to the lord of the rings dwarves. They are more "Wow" kind of dwarfs. Also the paint job is really colourful, if you would go with a black scheme they would look more like the hobbit dwarves.

[Proteus]

While I agree those are some amazing dwarfs with eye catching details. There are many different dwarfs and warhammer dwarfs are really different to the lord of the rings dwarves. They are more "Wow" kind of dwarfs. Also the paint job is really colourful, if you would go with a black scheme they would look more like the hobbit dwarves.

Changing the color scheme to something darker wouldn't be enough to suddenly make them appear like their LOTR counterparts. You would still be left with over-the-top weapons and armour design composed of elements that, upon closer inspection, are simplistic, impractical and rather bland in this "cockie cutter fantasy" way. And I write all this as a life long warhammer fantatic, who LOVES GW in-house style and the works created by their artists for both of their franchises. But at the same time I recognise that the strenght of warhammer art design lies in the general, overall feel of the images and the styles of their armies, rather than the concept art behind individual costumes, suites of armour, weapons or characters, as those aren't really that different from all the popular fantasy franchises out there, and certainly not in the same league as the mind boggling amount and level of conceptual work put by Weta behind both of the movie trilogies. Unfortunately one wouldn't be able to tell that looking only at the miniatures, as the ones from WH generally wipe the floor with those from Hobbit. And I think most of it is becouse 90% of current Hobbit range is made by the Perry Twins, who's sculpting style looks like it's still stuck in the 80's. The old LOTR mini range adhered to pricipals of "non heroic", "not over the top fantasy", but still managed to create some very characterful minis, mostly becouse back then GW assigned some other great sculptors from their team, instead of leaving 90% of an entire range in the hands of guys, who don't seem to evolve with the increasing level of quality in the hobby, and are wasting the designs behind the movies on mostly lackluster sculptures.

Anyway the new WH dwarfs appear to be great. Stunties players should be happy. Can't wait to see Ironbreakers.

[miniPAINTLAB]

full photo from White Dwarf

http://minipaintlab.blogspot.com/2014/01/white-dwarf-krasnoludy.html

[eldargal]

http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/DBeanz/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb84fae12.jpg
From Bugmans.

[angrybear]

Full cover of the white dwarf:

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No hints in the white dwarf for an upcoming warhammer dwarfs army book. Looks like gw is splitting the release in small parts because 2 hero's and duel kit is not a spectacular release. It also would explain the different rumors somewhat. I still feel we will get some great centerpiece model *hopes for golem*. If this hero is a preview of the quality sculpts we can await, we will be in for a great treat.

[Mr Mystery]

Also....full rules in WD for a King??

Intriguing. Most intriguing.

[CrAzY424]

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This was also on Bugmans. Close up with the silly head thing edited out. Looks better IMO.

[Brakkart]

Yeah the head piece thing looks silly, like he's carrying the unit standard around bolted to his helmet. I thought it was Chaos Dwarves that had the massive hat fetish going on.

[Mr Mystery]

I though it was a back banner?

[calimedic911]

One thing to remember in regards to the "lackluster release". This white dwarf is now in the weekly format. So instead of showing the big full release, they can now dribble out the models and then the army book at the end. (Should do the other was around IMHO ).

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I think it is too, the angle is too crooked for it to be on the head. Also, Dwarves have strong necks, but that would be stupid.

[Deadlift]

I think he looks awesome.

[John Paul Weir]

A lot of the older Dwarf Lords and Hero's had back banners, I'm actually looking forward to getting into my local GW on Saturday and having a look at the new stuff.

[berur]

I put a lot of hopes into this release, hope they will pull me back into WHF. If not I will probably get the awesome Avatar of War kits. Wont be easy for GW to make something better.

[angrybear]

I put a lot of hopes into this release, hope they will pull me back into WHF. If not I will probably get the awesome Avatar of War kits. Wont be easy for GW to make something better.

While I love the avatar of war looks, the plastic sculpts are worse (quality wise) then their gw counterparts. Also the company is also a bit unreliable with their release date. I helped fund the kick starter and the dwarves should have been ready a long time ago. Yet I think more then 50% is still to release. I do like their hero's better. Still some competition never hurts.

[berur]

Ok, til now just saw the Avatar of War minis soley on pictures, loved the style. What are the issues quality wise ?

[Gaius Castus]

AoW plastics are definitely of a lower standard than GW's, imo, and their ability to deliver their product(or more correctly,inability) has soured me on them overall. Nice metals though. Their dwarfs are ok, but the weapons are repetitive and the faces tend to look exactly the same. I like Felix a lot, and his early work was very impressive, I just think he may be in a bit over his head.

But on topic here, very excited about the release, Belegar looks great, if you don't like the back banner, don't use it. The hammerers are awesome, a nice big step forward from the old metals, and the slayer is freakin awesome! Psyched about this Saturday !

[angrybear]

AoW plastics are definitely of a lower standard than GW's, imo, and their ability to deliver their product(or more correctly,inability) has soured me on on them overall. Nice metals though. Their dwarfs are ok, but the weapons are repetitive and the faces tend to look exactly the same. I like Felix a lot, and his early work was very impressive, I just think he may be in a bit over his head.

But on topic here, very excited about the release, Belegar looks great, if you don't like the back banner, don't use it. The hammerers are awesome, a nice big step forward from the old metals, and the slayer is freakin awesome! Psyched about this Saturday !

This. The trailer of the dwarves on gamesworkshop is interesting (quality wise it is pathetic:rolleyes:) because it looks like some kind of golem summoning. Most trailers did reveal the theme of the release (high elves>phoenix and dark elves>shipwrack>kharibdyss). Or I am just to excited:D?

After watching it several times now the Golem could be a airship with a dragon design *hope not*?

[Wildeybeast]

Also....full rules in WD for a King??

Intriguing. Most intriguing.

So here's a question: do we think the rules are exclusive to WD, or just a reprint of what is in the book?

[Mr Mystery]

I dunno! Maybe we should try kicking it?

[Wildeybeast]

Huh?

[Bigred]

Here you go:

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You will note the lack of finecast.

There is also no Army Book for Dwarfs.

Apparently GW is testing a new miniatures first - armybook later weekly schedule...

[Wildeybeast]

Why? I don't get what the advantage is.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

It's weekly. So there's something new every week. They want you in a store every Saturday. Whether that's a good idea or not remains to be seen, of course.

[Wildeybeast]

I meant what the logic is of releasing the models before the rules. But now you mention it, I don't get that bit either. Most people get paid monthly. They have a monthly budget and will make purchases on a monthly basis. I don't see people changing that just to fit GW. Only time will tell.

[CrAzY424]

Boom

Via Kaput on Bugmans Brewery.

So Good!

http://40kwarzone.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/more-dwarf-pics-so-good.html

[angrybear]

Boom

Via Kaput on Bugmans Brewery.

So Good!

http://40kwarzone.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/more-dwarf-pics-so-good.html

Wow those are indeed gorgeous, the longbeards are even better than the hammerers. I really like the celtic design on the dwarf lord shield.

[Green_Lumux]

They look great! My only complaint is that the dual kit unit only contains 10 models... all the other dwarf kits i have seen have been in boxes of 16...

[Mr Mystery]

it's the new way.

Boxes of 16 are outmoded anyway, a hangover from when ranks were only 4 wide :)

[angrybear]

it's the new way.

Boxes of 16 are outmoded anyway, a hangover from when ranks were only 4 wide :)

I think bigger boxes are more needed then before;). But I can imagine for a duel kit the sprue's needed are already pretty big so 10 is reasonable. But it is painful if you need 40 for a horde.

[berur]

I love them. Hope the other Stuff will keep up to this standard.

Totally sold.

[eldargal]

Wow, Longbeards are fantastic.

[Wildeybeast]

Yep they are pretty fantastic. Definitely got that walking tank look from Warhammer Online going on.

[Chapter Master Jake]

So, they're doing marvelous updates on Longbeards, Hammerers, and some characters supposedly, but the rest of the range isn't getting updated?

You know how awesome a dwarf army would look with matching warriors / miners, thunderers / quarrellers, slayers / ironbreakers, gyrocopters, bolt thrower, cannon / organ gun / flame cannon, and grudgethrower?

I know it's the entire range... but I don't think I was alive the last time the Dwarves (or Dwarfs?) were updated... and I'm 23.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

they are doing weekly releases now, so there is likely more to come...

[CrAzY424]

So, they're doing marvelous updates on Longbeards, Hammerers, and some characters supposedly, but the rest of the range isn't getting updated?

You know how awesome a dwarf army would look with matching warriors / miners, thunderers / quarrellers, slayers / ironbreakers, gyrocopters, bolt thrower, cannon / organ gun / flame cannon, and grudgethrower?

I know it's the entire range... but I don't think I was alive the last time the Dwarves (or Dwarfs?) were updated... and I'm 23.

Those are only the models coming to us on the 8th of feb, which are being advertised in the first WD weekly. No doubt there will be more model releases alongside the Army book - later on in the month.

Edit:
Also, more pics:
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[ElCid]

The minis look great, just hope the rules are better than the ones from the last few army books.

[Cactus]

I wonder if we should call this new era of GW: the Teal Age.

Every army seems to have a variant paint scheme with teal... It surprisingly looks good on the dwarfs too.

[Damon Sherman]

I think that's an Ironbreaker/hammerer kit going on there.
Man those are pretty, but I'm dreading the $50+ dollar price tag on those bad boys.

[Chapter Master Jake]

I think that's an Ironbreaker/hammerer kit going on there.
Man those are pretty, but I'm dreading the $50+ dollar price tag on those bad boys.

The only reason I won't jump on the Dwarf wagon, with my newfound love of all things Dwarven, is because of the inflated greed there.

It's a shame too, Dwarves look like they'd be a ton of fun to build, paint, and play with.

[angrybear]

I think that's an Ironbreaker/hammerer kit going on there.
Man those are pretty, but I'm dreading the $50+ dollar price tag on those bad boys.

Its a longbeard/hammerer kit. Ironbreakers will probably be in the next wave (rumoured to be a dual kit with a heavy armoured shooting unit). Prices are high but were to be expected after the dark elves. Compared to the dwarven metals its not that bad.

[tankbusta]

I have more than a few dwarves, but since I left WFB about 10 years ago, I never really got around to playing or even painting many of them. If the rules are good, I might just get back in to the game.

On the topic of dwarven miniatures, I really like Scibor's:
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?group=139

[berur]

Its nice these are the Lonbeards, thought it were the ironbreakers. Werent we supposed to build Longbeared form the basic clanwarrior kit til now? Never like the option.

[angrybear]

Its nice these are the Lonbeards, thought it were the ironbreakers. Werent we supposed to build Longbeared form the basic clanwarrior kit til now? Never like the option.

I don't know if you can make longbeards with the warriors. I only know that there were metal longbeards. But they seem to be taken down from the website. In fact much has been taken down (book, gyrocopters and ironbreakers). I hope they will redo the slayers also, never was a fan of their design. But the fact that they are still on the website is not a great sign.

[Galushi]

I used the Warrior kit for longbeards just by assigning most of the cloaked bodies to them and painting the beards white/gray.

[Justus Ackermann]

I don't know if you can make longbeards with the warriors. I only know that there were metal longbeards. But they seem to be taken down from the website. In fact much has been taken down (book, gyrocopters and ironbreakers). I hope they will redo the slayers also, never was a fan of their design. But the fact that they are still on the website is not a great sign.

Ah, nice observation, haven't checked the page for missing units for a while. It's certainly good that the army book is gone, concerning the rumors of a shift to WD releases etc. Ironbreakers gone is fantastic as well, they deserve to be the coolest looking Dwarves around. And a dual-kit would mean a new heavily armored unit, nice! New Gyrokopter could be single-kit or squadron (or dual kit with war ballon or so!). There are also almost no engineers left, I could very well imagine a nice engineer multi-plastic kit. And on top of it a nice new war machine, would all make perfect sense. Concerning Slayers: Yeah, new plastic Slayers were overdue. Should they not come, look for AoWs Slayers. They are quite decent.

[berur]

Slayers got a new bundle Deal at GWs site (by the way preorders are up now), seems they stay the way they are, but who knows, with GWs more flexible release strategy, we might not have to wait 9 years or more for them to get an update. Stuff looks fine. I am very to tempted to get into WHF again, but I will wait for the 2nd week of releases for Dwarfs.

[Gingerpanda]

Games Workshop just went live with the new miniatures in the WHFB pre-order section. The price for the slayers regiment is £80 http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod2380273a

I was under the impression that these new releases was all going to be plastic these just seem to be the metal (Fine cast?) Miniatures we had already how dissapointing. Unless they will be done in plastic at a later date?

[angrybear]

Games Workshop just went live with the new miniatures in the WHFB pre-order section. The price for the slayers regiment is £80 http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod2380273a

I was under the impression that these new releases was all going to be plastic these just seem to be the metal (Fine cast?) Miniatures we had already how dissapointing. Unless they will be done in plastic at a later date?

The new release is all plastic but the slayers are still the old sculpts (metal). Its a great sign to see the new heroes/lords in plastic because its safe to say finecast is gone.

[spaceman91]

The rules for iron hammer are lacking a bit. Doesn't even say what armour save he has.

Edit. At a guess its gromril.

[angrybear]

The rules for iron hammer are lacking a bit. Doesn't even say what armour save he has.

Edit. At a guess its gromril.

Safe bet;). I i am really tempted to buy the new thorgrim book. It may contain some spoilers for the next two releases.

[eldargal]

I love the Dragon Slayer. I don't care what anyone says, the GW plastic characters are really worth the money now that they are exploiting the extra layers and posing hte material allows.

[spaceman91]

I love the Dragon Slayer. I don't care what anyone says, the GW plastic characters are really worth the money now that they are exploiting the extra layers and posing hte material allows.

Completely agree. Not seen a single plastic that hasn't been a good looking model

[eldargal]

Nice that the hammers kit is thirty pounds rather than thirty five, maybe GW realised the mistake they made with pricing the Witch Elf kit that high? Though having said that I do wonder if the price of that kit wasn't due to the rumoured finer tooling machines they needed to purchase to produce the moulds.

[silashand]

Concerning Slayers: Yeah, new plastic Slayers were overdue. Should they not come, look for AoWs Slayers. They are quite decent.

All of AoW stuff is nice. I have several of their character models and will likely do any WFB purchasing from them going forward. $50 for 10 plastic models is not in my price range.

[angrybear]

New rumors from Warseer (EddieJA):

'So, I don't know if this has been discussed already, but a LGS near me was accidentally selling next week's White Dwarf early. The Dwarfs have a Gyrobomber coming, this kit also makes a new Gyrocopter. They are also getting a new Runelord, and Engineer Character, and the next White Dwarf has a picture of the new Dwarf Army Book. Also, if you look closely, you can see new Dwarf Ironbreakers. This new Ironbreakers kit also looks like it builds some kind of blunderbuss wielding shooting unit. This blunderbuss carrying unit might also have the option to build some kind of flamethrower gun, I'm not sure.

New kits:

New Gyrobomber/Gyrocopter kit.
Engineer Character.
New Runelord.

This rumor is somewhat supported by the white dwarf claim "engineering madness" and a reliable warseer rumour poster.

[Lord-Boofhead]

Slayers got a new bundle Deal at GWs site (by the way preorders are up now), seems they stay the way they are, but who knows, with GWs more flexible release strategy, we might not have to wait 9 years or more for them to get an update. Stuff looks fine. I am very to tempted to get into WHF again, but I will wait for the 2nd week of releases for Dwarfs.

Too late for me, Avatars of war it is for me.

Don't even need many Slayers but I DO need to be able to convert them.

[silashand]

Too late for me, Avatars of war it is for me.

Don't even need many Slayers but I DO need to be able to convert them.

Same here (though admittedly I already have 2000 pts of slayers from the SoC campaign a long time ago - wish they would bring back Doomseekers and the Goblin Hewer). Avatars of War gets my fantasy unit money going forward.

[Mr Mystery]

Hmm.

Next week WD accidentally sold?

So where are the pics?

[angrybear]

Hmm.

Next week WD accidentally sold?

So where are the pics?

He did not say he bought them, maybe he just saw some stuff. Normally I would be very skeptical about this kind of rumours but they coincide with the rumored stuff.

[Mr Mystery]

Hmm.

Still seems odd you wouldn't pick up a copy to have a web exclusive.....hmm.

Not outside the realms of possibility, but you'd think someone would have squealed something pictures wise.

[Galushi]

Yeah, considering my FLGS sold me the week 1 WD for $2.50 US. If I saw an advance week I would have impulse bought it.

[Bigred]

via GrottoKnight on Warseer
-Yes Belegar has gromril. His Oathstone will be an extra points upgrade
-Thunderers/Quarrellers are CORE and RARE currently
-Gyrocopter is coming (see picture behind Slayer in video in "what's new"
-pg 27 of the WD says "Next week: Engineering Madness" in Designer Notes
-I would like to note that the Hammerers use GROMRIL hammers

ARMY RULES
It's basically 3 rules:
-Ancestral grudge, roll a D6 before the first turn. On 1-2 your general hates the enemy's general. On 3-4 your characters hate all enemy characters. On 5-6 your army hates the entire enemy army.
-Resolute, charging units have +1 strength
-Relentless, cannot be marchblocked.
(NOTICE: no -1 to flee and pursue rolls? I figured this would go with how movement and charging changed and all.)

[Bigred]

via GrottoKnight on Warseer 2-2-2014

-Yes Belegar has gromril. His Oathstone will be an extra points upgrade
-Thunderers/Quarrellers are CORE and RARE currently
-Gyrocopter is coming (see picture behind Slayer in video in "what's new"
-pg 27 of the WD says "Next week: Engineering Madness" in Designer Notes
-I would like to note that the Hammerers use GROMRIL hammers

ARMY RULES
It's basically 3 rules:
-Ancestral grudge, roll a D6 before the first turn. On 1-2 your general hates the enemy's general. On 3-4 your characters hate all enemy characters. On 5-6 your army hates the entire enemy army.
-Resolute, charging units have +1 strength
-Relentless, cannot be marchblocked.
(NOTICE: no -1 to flee and pursue rolls? I figured this would go with how movement and charging changed and all.)

via EddieJA on Warseer 2-2-2014

'So, I don't know if this has been discussed already, but a LGS near me was accidentally selling next week's White Dwarf early. The Dwarfs have a Gyrobomber coming, this kit also makes a new Gyrocopter. They are also getting a new Runelord, and Engineer Character, and the next White Dwarf has a picture of the new Dwarf Army Book. Also, if you look closely, you can see new Dwarf Ironbreakers. This new Ironbreakers kit also looks like it builds some kind of blunderbuss wielding shooting unit. This blunderbuss carrying unit might also have the option to build some kind of flamethrower gun, I'm not sure.

New kits:

New Gyrobomber/Gyrocopter kit.
Engineer Character.
New Runelord.

[Bigred]

Mid-month GW Dwarf Schedule

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[Wildeybeast]

Sooo, what's coming out this week then? There don't seem to have been any rumours about that, which is surprising this close in.

[Green_Lumux]

This week all the models previewed in last weeks new white dwarf are being released, are they not? They are still working on the 1 week preview/preorder model. So this weeks white dwarf will have the engineers and copters etc, and then they'll will be in stores the date indicated on that list.

[tikimonkey]

Sooo, what's coming out this week then? There don't seem to have been any rumours about that, which is surprising this close in.

Next up is the new Gyrocopter/Gyrobomber kit, Runelord, and Grimm Burlockson. Also the new dwarf book with limited edition version. The new Gyro kit is pretty awesome looking. Got lucky and found a copy of the new mag early.

[tikimonkey]

The next set of releases is the new Gyrocopter/Gyrobomber kit, plastic Runelord, plastic Grimm Burlockson, and the new dwarf rulebook. The new Gyro kit is pretty sweet looking.

[Wildeybeast]

This week all the models previewed in last weeks new white dwarf are being released, are they not? They are still working on the 1 week preview/preorder model. So this weeks white dwarf will have the engineers and copters etc, and then they'll will be in stores the date indicated on that list.

Ah, so that's how it works. So all the stuff in the current WD isn't out yet and the releases will be a week behind WD. I didn't realise as they didn't bother putting any releases dates in the mag. :rolleyes:

[CrAzY424]

I'm honestly surprised that we haven't had any proper pic leaks yet.

[Denken]

Any leaked image yet for this week pre-order?

Also, any idea about why Thunderers/Quareller are now also a Rare choice? Can it be because Ranger are becoming a rare choice?

[eldargal]

Oh gosh the gyrbomber/copter is ADORBLE!

[Wildeybeast]

Yep, those are some nice models. I particularly like the two characters.

[Fuulgrim920]

Ok so hold up!! First off the new Runelord looks awesome! Second off to the left of him in the picture those looks like possible new warrior models. Third off in the background it looks like it could be the new ironbreakers!!!! Holy crap all this new Dwarf stuff I'm going crazy :) woo finally!!

[Jossy]

Full range of pictures are here http://plastickrak.blogspot.co.nz/2014/02/new-dwarf-pictures-leaked-gyrocopters.html

[Justus Ackermann]

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! I don't even know where to start, this is all so exciting. The new Gyro(s) look awesome! I love the Mechanicum-look of Burlocksson, and he seems to have a couple of nasty rules. Also the runesmith looks good! And those are definitely new Warriors, armor, shields, heads, all new. Love that there will be new Ironbreakers, and we finally also have an elite shooting unit (fingers crossed for BS4 and some serious damage output) Absolutely great that runes are still in (as well as magic heirlooms, like in the golden days of herohammer), and that they thought of stuff to have all the runes stackable, apparently. And now runes can go on organ guns! And there is a special rune called "dwarf-forged" for war machines, yessssss.

[eldargal]

Full range of pictures are here http://plastickrak.blogspot.co.nz/2014/02/new-dwarf-pictures-leaked-gyrocopters.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s9pIzc2dWFs/UvHNFeRzEmI/AAAAAAAAC3E/Kgza66R2J2s/s1600/Bfr-g0SCYAA3KPc.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pp4hgN8GgpQ/UvHmeJTRbDI/AAAAAAAAC4o/hiE9dOgOaDQ/s1600/BfsUj6tCIAEGZVQ.jpg
Ooooh.

[Mr Mystery]

Hmmmm....
Underway Battle Book thing.....

What's that about precious? What's is it?

[eldargal]

Battles in the old stunty roads I assume.

[Mr Mystery]

Nice!

As for those new warriors....

I'm 99% sure that's just the Longbeard models.

[eldargal]

The pic I posted? Thought it was the Ironbreakers on account of the full masks for all of them 'cept the offisah.

[Mr Mystery]

True dat.

[spaceman91]

Omg. Love that cover and the runelord. Can't wait. My Stuntys are getting some upgrades

[Cap'nSmurfs]

The Battlefields series are mini-campaigns of three linked battles, with custom scenarios and special rules for fighting in a particular part of the Warhammer world. They're pretty good. iPad only, I believe.

[Mr Mystery]

The Army Book cover.....

The Stunty somehow looks out of breath. Which I like.....very 'Right you. Not only is your Great-great-great-great-great-great-Grandad in my book of Grudges on account of that time he let fly a great big flappywoofwoof before the King, but you've just made me run. I think it's a Magic Hammer to the knee caps for you'

[bfmusashi]

This release is looking cooler and cooler with each reveal. I'm pretty excited about the Underway book as there just aren't enough releases praising the children of the horned rat.

[wbravenboer]

The wisdom of a weekly magazine becomes clearer, every week some new pictures, stuff... makes us more and more wanting to have 'em, the last week will probably see the armybook ;)

[chrisloomis13]

As a long time Dwarf player and fan I like what I see, but couldn't help but think of this when I saw the new Gyro

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[Cap'nSmurfs]

It's very cool to have something new and exciting to gawp at every week, rather than every month.

The book cover is amazing. One of the best they've done (and there's been some amazing ones lately).

[eldargal]

I like the limited edition cover too, very understated yet very dwarfy. Not going to buy it, but I like it.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

I can see Squat fans loving these too.

[silashand]

It looks like a fish... :/

[Kirsten]

I'd like to see more pics of the gyrocopters. love the engineer character, would be tempted to get one of those just to have.

[silashand]

Saw the pics on the other link. Must say the gyro is growing on me. And just to say THANK GRUNGNI RUNES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED!!!!!

[Steven Palmer]

I want that Engineer!! :O

[Justus Ackermann]

The pic I posted? Thought it was the Ironbreakers on account of the full masks for all of them 'cept the offisah.

Oh, of course! You are definitely right, those are the new Ironbreakers. Hmm, so if the Engineer, the Gyros, the Runesmith and the Book are due next week, that would leave "only" the Ironbreakers for the third week. Maybe there is even more coming?

[YourSwordisMine]

Oh, of course! You are definitely right, those are the new Ironbreakers. Hmm, so if the Engineer, the Gyros, the Runesmith and the Book are due next week, that would leave "only" the Ironbreakers for the third week. Maybe there is even more coming?

There are still a few things that need plastic. Bolt Thrower and Grudge thrower would make an excellent dual kit. Plastic Slayers are desperately needed... They also need a Plastic Anvil kit, and supposedly rumor said there was one (dual kit of some kind). Flame Cannon needs a remake.

And I cant think of anything else. Hopefully more plastics are released. At the rate the Dwarfs are turning out, if they add more plastics, I'll get myself a Dwarf army.

[The Madman]

As a long time Dwarf player and fan I like what I see, but couldn't help but think of this when I saw the new Gyro

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Same here, Chris. Same here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNFELAm3dw)

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[Esseldal]

Having taken a look at the sprues, those definitely aren't the Longbeards. That standard option isn't on the sprues.

I'm beyond thrilled with this. Excellent, excellent stuff. Best new fantasy sculpts in a while!

I'll confess I hated the gyrocopter at first, but it's growing on me...

[Wildeybeast]

So I'm guessing 'dwarf-crafted' must be an army special rule. I wonder what that does?

[eldargal]

So I'm guessing 'dwarf-crafted' must be an army special rule. I wonder what that does?
+10% price at trendy markets.

[Learn2Eel]

So I'm guessing 'dwarf-crafted' must be an army special rule. I wonder what that does?

I've never once read the old Dwarven codex, but from what I understand it was some kind of +1 to hit bonus.

I'm going to say right now, I've been turned by this release. I wasn't going to pay it any mind (I'm more of an Elf person) but gee, the new models, stacking runes with magic items and so on is really great. Also, I think the limited edition cover, while the simplest they've done, is also the most fitting. The others have all been some kind of artwork, the Dwarf one actually just looks like a Dwarven book equivalent. But seriously, four pages of runes plus magic items? Surely that's got to be the most customization available in an 8th Edition army book for characters? That's what I love about Fantasy - customizing characters - and it sounds like Dwarves can do it more than anyone.

Too bad the prices look pretty "eh"; $70 AUD for Hammerers/Longbeards :(

[angrybear]

I've never once read the old Dwarven codex, but from what I understand it was some kind of +1 to hit bonus.

I'm going to say right now, I've been turned by this release. I wasn't going to pay it any mind (I'm more of an Elf person) but gee, the new models, stacking runes with magic items and so on is really great. Also, I think the limited edition cover, while the simplest they've done, is also the most fitting. The others have all been some kind of artwork, the Dwarf one actually just looks like a Dwarven book equivalent. But seriously, four pages of runes plus magic items? Surely that's got to be the most customization available in an 8th Edition army book for characters? That's what I love about Fantasy - customizing characters - and it sounds like Dwarves can do it more than anyone.

Too bad the prices look pretty "eh"; $70 AUD for Hammerers/Longbeards :(

Dwarves do have a lot of customization but they dont have acces to the basic rule book items. I love the artbook, its really striking. The prices really don´t surprise me anymore (I can live with it).

The painting choice of the gyrocopter/bomber is really awful. The engineer is a bit to busy for my taste but the runemaster is gorgeous. Ironbreakers look awesome (irondragons need better pictures before judgement). The release so far is absolutely great. Curious to see if we get 2 or 3 kits with the last wave (ironbreakers, tunneler/canon device..? and ...?).

[Mr Mystery]

And hats off to GW for managing to have a Fantasy setting Airship which looks like it might just work, as opposed to most Steampunk stuff.

[Justus Ackermann]

via a Must Remain Anonymous Source on Faeit 212 ****
Dwarven Rules:
Ancestral Grudge - hatred Skaven/Greenskins; everyone else has a chart.
Dwarf Made - Re rolls
Resolute - +1 Strength on the charge
Relentless - no leadership for marching close to an enemy
Shieldwall - +1 parry when charged

Warriors: Stayed the same but with the new rules above.
Thunders/Quarrlers: +1 point, with new rules above and heavy armor
Longbeards: new rules above + old longbeard rules, +1 point, no longer 1 unit for every unit of warriors.

Hammers: don't remember points but looked the same; if general is present in unit, any, ANY model can accept a challenge.
Iron Breakers: pretty much the same, +1 parry bonus always!, stacks with Shieldwall rule, so 4+ ward save if charged!

Gyrobomber thing: in movement phase can drop bombs (place large blast, scatter, if it still hits a unit it passed over then resolve wounds, scatter from the center hole again with a small blast as bomb bounces). In the shooting phase it can shoot its cannon.

New Unit (Rare): Good stat line, Irondrakes (I think that was the name), handheld flame cannon (str5, 18", armor piercing, dwarf made, flaming attacks, ), they also have armor gromil-proven armor (I think) that gives 4+/6+ward/2+ward vs. flaming attacks.

Added characters: (2) seen in white dwarf weekly, Ungrim Slayer-King, Joseph Bugman, High King Thorgrim, don't remember if Thorek is in there.

So a bit of an update. These are torn from the pages of the book that is due February 15th. I cannot post the images to keep my source safe, Natfka safe, etc.

No plastic slayers. This doesn't mean they aren't coming (because we don't have finecast versions and still metal) in plastic; just means that at the time of the books production they were not ready or painted. We have seen this before.

Shieldwall would be awesome! Ironbreakers with 3+/4++ getting charged? oO. shooting units with Heavy Armour is very good, Longbeards would definitely win over clanwarriors. Irondrakes sound very nice! Hammerers nice rule, but what about 2 attacks?

[Wildeybeast]

Hmm, that all sounds pretty swell. Dwarves are going to be tough little sods to stomp.

[Alue's Child]

I saw the Hammerer/Longbeards and thought "I'll pick some up, later, maybe" Now...I'm probably gonna order the limited Edition book and grab me some of them copters, even if I haven't brought my Dwarves out of their boxes in two years. Between this and my growing Epirote phalanx, it looks like my yearly model budget is mostly bespoke.

[silashand]

So I'm guessing 'dwarf-crafted' must be an army special rule. I wonder what that does?

It is likely the old Dwarf Handgun rule renamed, i.e. +1 to hit. This way they can just give the rule to any Dwarf blackpowder weapon and not have to answer the question of what constitutes a Dwarf "handgun."

[Mr Mystery]

Hmm, that all sounds pretty swell. Dwarves are going to be tough little sods to stomp.

Stomping is the easy bit. You can't parry a good bit of boot leather!

[the jeske]

Well I hope that the gun engineer is another version of Burlock Damminson. Sad that the gun gyro < bomber gyro.

[angrybear]

Well I hope that the gun engineer is another version of Burlock Damminson. Sad that the gun gyro < bomber gyro.

What do you mean by better? I think both serve a different role, also do we know what the gun gyro does?

[Mr Mystery]

Not at all convinced by the +1 S on the charge....Stunties would then be ridiculously tough, stupidly hard hitting, and really accurate.

Just don't see them getting all three. Mind you, they do have a track record of Dwarfs having absolutely no drawbacks ever.

[angrybear]

Not at all convinced by the +1 S on the charge....Stunties would then be ridiculously tough, stupidly hard hitting, and really accurate.

Just don't see them getting all three. Mind you, they do have a track record of Dwarfs having absolutely no drawbacks ever.

Agreed, there seem to much special rules. Also giving bonuses to charge and being charged seems silly. Of course these charge bonuses could be unit specific (slayers +1 str charge seems fine). But this rumour sounds a bit far fatched to me. Re rolling with dwarven crafted weapons is ridiculous. Hatred would be useless aswell the new sc engineer abilities.

[spaceman91]

I have been drooling over the rune lord but it struck me. Why can't I make him my dwarf lord ( using both hammer arms ). What do you think. Look cool or meh ?

[Lord-Boofhead]

I have been drooling over the rune lord but it struck me. Why can't I make him my dwarf lord ( using both hammer arms ). What do you think. Look cool or meh ?

Only way to work it out is to try.

[Lord-Boofhead]

The Battlefields series are mini-campaigns of three linked battles, with custom scenarios and special rules for fighting in a particular part of the Warhammer world. They're pretty good. iPad only, I believe.

This ****s me. I had no iPad and have no interest of ever having one or any Apple software.

This is the same with Altar of War articles. The still haven't shown up in eBook and Mobi format. Oh well I'll just pirate them then if GW won't sell them in a format I can access.

[Mr Mystery]

This ****s me. I had no iPad and have no interest of ever having one or any Apple software.

This is the same with Altar of War articles. The still haven't shown up in eBook and Mobi format. Oh well I'll just pirate them then if GW won't sell them in a format I can access.

Orrrrrrr you can put your sense of entitlement aside and either wait or go without like a reasonable human being?

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Or get a friend to share!

(In the sense of "let you read them" rather than "pirate").

[eldargal]

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3780143a_99120205011_Gyrobomber01_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3780178a_99120205011_Gyrocopter03_873x627.jpg
So cute.

[Lord-Boofhead]

Orrrrrrr you can put your sense of entitlement aside and either wait or go without like a reasonable human being?

Why should I? GW is choosing not to sell it in the format I use. This is a stupid marketing choice I WANT to give them money but they don't want it.


Or get a friend to share!

(In the sense of "let you read them" rather than "pirate").

Sadly none of the filthy iPad users I know are wargamers. One can only afford one expensive obsession you know.

Plus I'm really the only guy locally interested in that stuff.

[Cap'nSmurfs]

FWIW, I also don't like the exclusivity lockdown the iBookstore puts on things. It is what it is, but what it is isn't good.

The Gyrocopter is amazing. A-maz-ing. If I didn't have all these elves, I'd have all those Dwarfs.

[Chronowraith]

Why should I? GW is choosing not to sell it in the format I use. This is a stupid marketing choice I WANT to give them money but they don't want it.

GW doesn't have to cater to your every desire. They do what they do for reasons, usually money related. If you don't see a product come out in the format you choose the best explanation is that it either doesn't make them enough money, they don't have the expertise to make/disseminate, or they simply don't have the manpower to put towards it's creation. Despite what you may think, there is a lot of work involved transferring between the interactive iBook format and a standard eBook format.



Sadly none of the filthy iPad users I know are wargamers. One can only afford one expensive obsession you know.

Plus I'm really the only guy locally interested in that stuff.

So work out a deal with them. Pay for the product, then have them take screenshots of it and pass those along to you in whatever format you want.

[Chronowraith]

I'm really looking forward to playing against the new dwarves. The new units and rules for them would allow them to pack an extra punch on the offense or be more solid during defense as the battle field dictates. They actually sound like they are becoming a pretty balanced and dynamic army and not the boring static army that they once were.

Really loving what I've seen of the Ironbreakers. If they weren't going to be $50USD for 10 models I'd consider getting some just to model and paint.

[Mr Mystery]

Why should I? GW is choosing not to sell it in the format I use. This is a stupid marketing choice I WANT to give them money but they don't want it.



Sadly none of the filthy iPad users I know are wargamers. One can only afford one expensive obsession .


Because nobody likes a thief? And nothing makes you special enough to just take stuff for free. Ever.

[YourSwordisMine]

I am shocked the Copter is only $45...

shocked and amazed

[Mr Mystery]

I'm tempted by the 6 strong air armada set.

Though I am skint, so not gonna happen!!

[Bigred]

Totally agree - perhaps they are learning...

A completely reasonable price for the kit.

[bfmusashi]

So work out a deal with them. Pay for the product, then have them take screenshots of it and pass those along to you in whatever format you want.
This is in no way illegal or specifically forbidden in the opening pages.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It's not very big, it's like a 40mm base?

[angrybear]

It's not very big, it's like a 40mm base?

Yeah I expect it to be on a 40mm base. Some new rumors from Saldiven (bugman):


The Gyrocopter is a Special choice, and you can take up to 6. They are not squadrons; there's just a little note that says you can take six of them.

The Gyrobomber is a Rare choice.

Rangers are, in fact, a Rare choice, as well.

Gromril armor is just a 4+ save; I don't recall there being a ward save included as well.

Dwarf Crafted is a rule for missile weapons. It allows the weapon to be fired as a Stand and Shoot reaction without the -1 penalty.

The thing that surprised me the most about the book is the large number of ways that you can get the Multiple Wounds (d3). It's freaking everywhere.

Another thing is the Rune that's a better version of Red Fury. If you take three Runes of Fury, the model gets +1 Attack, Frenzy, and for every successful To-Hit roll, the model makes another attack roll; these bonus attacks do not generate additional attacks. If you put that on a Lord, it would have 6 attacks that could theoretically generate another 6. In case you didn't notice, the extra attacks are generated by successful To-Hit rolls, not wounds.

Oh, yeah, the Flame Cannon now has two firing modes. The first is just like a regular Flame Cannon from the main rule book. Alternatively, it can be overcharged so that you can nominate a point up to 12" from the Flame Cannon to be the point from which the artillery die roll originates for determining where the template ends up. But, if you fire in this mode and roll a misfire, you subtract 1 from the roll on the black powder weapon misfire table.

Hrm. Lemme see what I can remember. Most things have Heavy Armor now, even the artillery crew, if I remember correctly. The new units are the Bomber and the Iron Drakes. I don't recall any others.

Slayers didn't really change much, I don't think. I never played them before. They still have the Slayer Axe rule. They can never wound anything on worse than a 4+. There's a special character Slayer that has a 3+/4++, and if you take him, he can be the Army General.

The Organ Gun is now BS based, but rolls two artillery dice, rather than one. It can be given up to 50 points of Runes, and there's a +1 to hit Rune. Also, the range is now 30"; I seem to remember that it was 24" before. Is my memory correct in that.

The 'Copter has a once per game Diver Bomber attack that is kind of similar to the Drop Rocks attack of that flying unit in the Lizardmen book have. The basic weapon for the 'Copter is a S3 Flame Template, but can be traded for free to a 18" S5 Multiple Shot (4) gun. I'm pretty sure it's 4 shots. Up to half of the 'Copters in the army (rounded up) can be given a 20 point upgrade that allows them a Vanguard move. I'm really liking the idea of Vanguarding up a couple of them to move into position to five the template down the length of units from outside their charge arc.

The Master Rune of Balance only steals a die on a roll of 4+. All the rune-guys can channel.

I wasn't really impressed with the Anvil. The first power makes all friendly units within 12" (or it might be 24", can't remember) Immune to Psychology for a turn. The next one buffs a target unit's Armor Save by one (I think, really not sure on this one, can't remember for sure). And the last one is a S4 magic missile that inflicts 2d6 hits, I believe. They all work like bound spells.

Daemon Slayers make their opponent re-roll successful ward saves. Dragon Slayers have the Multiple Wound (d3) rule.

Oh, the bomb thing that the 'Drakes can get is an 8" range weapon that functions kind of like a Stone Thrower. I can't remember the Strength of it. It seems kind of risky, though, since to be close enough to use it, you're close enough for it to land back on top of you.

I believe that Ironbreakers and Hammerers are both 14 points, base. 'Breakers can get a shield for 1 point. Sheildwall is a rule that on the turn the unit is charged, they get +1 to their Parry save. There's another rule that's like "Gromril Shield Wall" or something, and I think I remember that this gives the +1 to Parry save at all times.

One thing for sure, Dwarves will no longer be shutting down the magic phase. Rune-guys can channel for Dispel Dice, but don't automatically provide them. The army gets a base +2 to attempt to dispel, regardless of what's in the army. The Master Rune of Valaya adds another +2 to dispel, and will dispel any RiP spell on a roll (can't remember the target number, I think it's a 3+) at the beginning of the Magic Phase. There's no range, so any RiP spell on the table has to be rolled for.

I'll look for more specifics on the Rune-guys tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure you can still take multiple Runes of Spellbreaking. The Spelleating one still exists, too.

Like I said, I might be mistaken about the dispel dice thing; I didn't read the book cover-to-cover, or anything. I'm very confident about the +2 to dispel; but there might also be somewhere else that mentions additional "free" dispel dice.

Oh, I actually kind of like the Oathstone now. I never used it in the last book, but I seem to remember that if you planted the Oathstone, the unit couldn't move anymore. Or was that the previous army book? Anyway, the Oathstone doesn't now prevent the unit from moving. The unit can use Parry saves in any direction and cannot have their ranks Disrupted.

The base 'Copter cost is 80. The Vanguard move upgrade is 20 points.

No big centerpiece model. In fact, the only unit types in the book are Infantry, Warmachine, and "Unique."

The Flame Cannon also has Multiple Wounds (d3).
@blind bum: It's the actual army book. By "demo book," meant that it was a single copy given to the store. They used to do this a lot before. The store owner was actually willing to sell it to me today, but I didn't want to take it away from all the other people that might want to look at it just to have it a week earlier than normal.

Miners use regular Ambush rules now. They can be upgraded to have a single use missile weapon, but I kind of thought it was too expensive for what it does. The Drill still exists and gives a +1 to the roll to see if they show up.

I actually kind of like Ironbreakers. With Shields, they are T4 with a 3+/5++. They're 14 points, just like Hammerers. Hammerers are more offensive minded, but still only have a 5+ save from the Heavy Armor.

Slayers did have one cool rule, but dunno how worthwhile it'll be in play. If a close combat attack (excluding Impact Hits) reduces a Slayer to 0 wounds, that Slayer model makes a free attack right then before pulling the model. Other than the special timing of the Attack, it's treated like a regular attack roll. This includes being killed by Stomp, for example. So, if you're facing something like Ogres, when the Ogres swing, the models they kill automatically attack back. Then the remaining eligible Slayers make their regular attacks. Then, any models killed by the Ogres' Stomp attack make their free attacks.

I kind of remember that just a lot of units have Shieldwall. I know I remember that regular old Warriors have the rule. Ironbreakers have the upgraded rule (something like Gromril Shieldwall, or something) that allows them to (I believe) have the bonus +1 to Parry all the time. I'll check to make sure tomorrow.

Dwarves do NOT have access to the Main Rulebook magic items, but they have an extensive listing of

Runic items. There's one page of unique Runic items. Two pages of weapon runes. One page each for Armor, Standard, Talisman, and Warmachine Runes. So, all told, a total seven pages of what amount to Magic Items, with a huge amount of customization possible. Several runes can be taken multiple times, with each additional rune bringing an added benefit. My favorite example is the one I posted earlier with the Rune of Fury: 1 gives you +1 Attack; 2 gives you +1 Attack and Frenzy; 3 gives you +1 Attack, Frenzy, and each successful To-Hit roll results in a bonus attack (bonus attacks do not generate additional attacks). On a Lord, that means he's got a chance of 12 attacks.

Master Engineers allow re-rolls to a dice involved in firing warmachines. If the Engineer is within 3" of a Warmachine, he can take a Look Out Sir! roll from shooting attacks, and successful rolls divert the shot to the Warmachine. There's more, but that's all I can remember right now.

Oh, Bugman allows you to convert one unit of Rangers into what might as well be Longbeard Rangers, but if you do, then Bugman must start in that unit and cannot leave it. It costs an extra 3 points per model, and the Rangers get +1 to WS/S/and I think Initiative, but not positive about the last stat. He still has the healing draught cup. He also has a special rule where each turn you roll two dice and look at a chart to see what affect his Ale has on the affected units (can't remember which units are affected). A roll of 2 kinda sucks. There are two other effects, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I think one is Immune to Psychology until the next Dwarf turn. I think the other is +1 Toughness til the next Dwarf turn; it's something like that because the fluff for it talks about how the Dwarves are kinda hammered and can't feel pain anymore.

I'm almost certain it's one free attack per slain Slayer. However, it gets to use whatever special rules apply to that attack. So, if you were swinging with the Great Weapon Slayer Axe, it's getting the bonus Strength. If it's a character with a Runic Weapon, the attack has the benefits of the Runic Weapon. Oh, here's an interesting one. I'm pretty sure it was one of the Special Characters, but there's a way to get +3 to the roll at the beginning of the game to see what kind of Hatred you get. So, with that guy, the whole army has Hatred of the other guy's army on a 2+ roll. I wanna say it's the super expensive Dwarf King guy (he's like 650 points), but not positive.

What I find strange is no big kit for the dwarves. Because ChargeandDie is at the moment 100% correct with his rumours but he also stated some tunneling/canon device. We know for sure that irondrakes/ironbreakers are coming next week, but a 1 unit release seems a bit small.

[jaggedjack]

I have been away from Warhammer for several years, but with the new Dwarf models, the new weekly White Dwarf, and tax money coming back, I am definitely going to start a new Dwarf army!!!

[Wildeybeast]

Just assembled the Dragon Slayer and he is even better than he looks in the pics. The pose and dynamism of the model is awesome and the joints are all seamless. GW have taken these one sprue heroes to new levels with that kit.

[angrybear]

Just assembled the Dragon Slayer and he is even better than he looks in the pics. The pose and dynamism of the model is awesome and the joints are all seamless. GW have taken these one sprue heroes to new levels with that kit.

Good to hear, I hope mine comes soon.

[Kirsten]

I love today's What's New Today post

"They are available to pre-order now, both as a plastic kit and as a high-flying Dwarfen air force containing six of these fantastical machines. This collection is only available for a week, though, so if you want it you’ll have to order it quick before it flies over the mountains and into the sunset."

yes, act now for the special offer of six gyrocopters for the price of six. wouldn't want to miss that time limited deal :p

[spaceman91]

I love today's What's New Today post

"They are available to pre-order now, both as a plastic kit and as a high-flying Dwarfen air force containing six of these fantastical machines. This collection is only available for a week, though, so if you want it you’ll have to order it quick before it flies over the mountains and into the sunset."

yes, act now for the special offer of six gyrocopters for the price of six. wouldn't want to miss that time limited deal :p

Still better then the offers that cost more for the bundle then the individual boxes together

[Brother Horatio]

<3 <3 <3

[spaceman91]

Today on GW is good. It gives you a peek through all the dwarf books. Thane is shown clearly.

[Bigred]

Nice views:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8mMPHXL7M

Via iTunes Store (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/book/warhammer-dwarfs/id815217423?mt=11)

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[Boon]

All this Dwarfness is prity cool. :-)