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eldargal
09-24-2013, 05:44 AM
Just one so far, more as they appear. Supplied by Kangio.
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4938&d=1380023094
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4939&d=1380023528
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4940&d=1380023647
I will buying one.

Gotthammer
09-24-2013, 05:53 AM
I like the cauldron - though probably be mounting it on a baneblade hull but same thing really :D

Also bonus points if, better picture allowing, someone makes a photoshop of the statue of Khaine that says "I'm flying, Jack!"

Kaptain Badrukk
09-24-2013, 05:53 AM
Great for making scenery with, but i think the "battle stairs" concept may be just a bit daft.
All the components looks fantastic individually but put together it just doesn't work for me.

lattd
09-24-2013, 05:57 AM
The statue could make a great avatar for eldar players with a little work.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:00 AM
http://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556554_642275082471326_472636581_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1234059_642275009138000_431734434_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/12354_642275039137997_457790058_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1240215_642275062471328_1066045749_n.jpg

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:01 AM
http://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1376480_642275125804655_1349339617_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1230097_642275119137989_1662225172_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1233993_642275142471320_318845280_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1236302_642275182471316_2078937057_n.jpg

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:02 AM
http://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1236895_642275192471315_463381531_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1236764_642275205804647_264696050_n.jpg
http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1240578_642275242471310_894851304_n.jpg

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 06:03 AM
Yes okay I caved...

Looks like my Druchii might be getting dusted off.....

CiaphasCaine
09-24-2013, 06:03 AM
Those witches look amazing, a ranking nightmare im sure but a small price to pay for great witches. I dont like either of the new beasties but they wouldnt really fit in my khainite army anyways so im not bothered

Gotthammer
09-24-2013, 06:06 AM
Wyches look like pretty amazing so far, and the snake hydra is my favourite of the two, though I appreciate tentacle maw's style. Hope there are still female warriors though.

Kaptain Badrukk
09-24-2013, 06:07 AM
OK, the rest of this release looks AWESOME!

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 06:08 AM
So what's the betting the Witch Elves are compatible with Dark Eldar Wyches???

Could be an acecakes way to represent Bloodbrides.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:09 AM
So what's the betting the Witch Elves are compatible with Dark Eldar Wyches???

Could be an acecakes way to represent Bloodbrides.
Hard to say, the wyches are somewhat more muscled, the bits might not work so well together.

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 06:10 AM
Masks and stuff could prove useful for marking them out too....

If only the pics weren't in crap-o-vision!

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:12 AM
It's annoying because 40k Radio and others got nice big high res copies of the pictures from WD, not WD scans or photos.

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 06:23 AM
I know it's a bit rude to the person taking the photos, but you think they'd at least turn off the flash, and try to avoid shaky vision??

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:27 AM
So the chap on Warseer from 40k Radio described each unit accurately including the paintjob and there are still ****s on Warseer claiming he just got a lucky guess because only 50% of the units he mentioned are pictured despite him saying there is a second wave next month.:rolleyes:

Nosebiter
09-24-2013, 06:28 AM
Those are really sexy. Not sold on the hydra so far, but better pics might redeem it.

The medusa is epic!!!!!!

One blood throne and one box of witch elves for me! Diorama inbound!!

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:30 AM
I love the hydra heads.:) Not sure what but they remind me of something, maybe a cartoon dinosaur or something from my childhood.

Kaptain Badrukk
09-24-2013, 06:33 AM
I love the hydra heads.:) Not sure what but they remind me of something, maybe a cartoon dinosaur or something from my childhood.

IMO they're kinda derpy and cute. I wanna pet the hydra.
On the other hand petting tentacle-mouths for faces monster is a BAD IDEA.

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 06:35 AM
I like the attention to reality on the Hydra heads.

Yes it's a mythical beasty, but no reason it can't resemble actual lizards and that!

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 06:37 AM
Yes okay I caved...

Looks like my Druchii might be getting dusted off.....

Hopefully you'll last longer on giving up the cigarettes :rolleyes:

magickbk
09-24-2013, 06:41 AM
These are awesome. Only thing I don't like is the face masks on the uber-witch elves.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 06:43 AM
These are awesome. Only thing I don't like is the face masks on the uber-witch elves.

Really? I love them. You have these beautiful, sinuous, scantily clad elves juxtaposed with extremely creepy, intimidating, harsh and angular masks.

Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
09-24-2013, 06:46 AM
Huh, Kharibdyss has a jaw based off of a misconstruction of a shark fossil (Helicoprion).
http://forgetomori.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/helicoprion23d.jpg
And I thought I was the only one raiding weird prehistoric sharks for sculpt ideas :P

klunc
09-24-2013, 06:54 AM
I am enjoying the pics so far, the Hydra could use a more muted paintjob probably. Looking forward to next months releases though... plastic chariot with Corsairs!

Cap'nSmurfs
09-24-2013, 06:55 AM
That's the sound of nobody ever using Dark Eldar Wyches as Dark Eldar Wyches again, basically. This stuff looks great.

Another of what is now the standard Awesome WHFB releases, I think.

Kirsten
09-24-2013, 07:23 AM
oh wow I love those :eek:

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 07:26 AM
Huh, Kharibdyss has a jaw based off of a misconstruction of a shark fossil (Helicoprion).
http://forgetomori.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/helicoprion23d.jpg
And I thought I was the only one raiding weird prehistoric sharks for sculpt ideas :P

I can't believe that a) the Kharibdyss is based on something from the real world and b) anyone ever thought that was how a creature would really have its jaw constructed ;)

eldargal
09-24-2013, 07:28 AM
oh wow I love those :eek:
I thought you might.:p

I really want to see the cover of the army book. If the limited edition version has a Witch Elf or sorceress on it I'm so buying it.

Kirsten
09-24-2013, 07:32 AM
I thought you might.:p

can't wait for some better pics, they are awesome. the cauldron has one long staircase just going up, and one even longer coming down.

pauljc
09-24-2013, 07:57 AM
*Clay Davis impression* Sheeeiit.. that's 12,000 points of Dark Elves I'm gonna have to re-do from scratch. 'Cus these are sexy as all hell..

angrybear
09-24-2013, 08:08 AM
Awesome release! I love the greek theme behind the new dark elves. At first I disliked the hydra but it is growing on me. The paint job of the hydra heads look like a mouth with teeth . But after watching it a couple of times I think it are scales (?). The swordmen however suffer a little bit of their pose (spear and crossbow look awesome). I love the shadowblade model too . Can't wait to build a dark elf force. On a sidenote, I think the forgeworld merwyrm is a nice addition to this release (proxy).

P.S Forums look really neat.

Phototoxin
09-24-2013, 08:11 AM
Thanks for the repost Eldargirl. Warseer was getting tedious!

Seeing this pics = actual nerdgasm.

TheCastigator
09-24-2013, 08:15 AM
These are pretty awesome. They definitely got the upgrade they needed and deserved. Any word on rules yet? There must be a battle report in there.

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 08:18 AM
Surprised EG hasn't commented on the 'kneeling man' pedestal on the Cauldron!

mirbeau
09-24-2013, 08:19 AM
WOW. So far so good, I will be parting with money this coming month then.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 08:52 AM
Surprised EG hasn't commented on the 'kneeling man' pedestal on the Cauldron!
I didn't want to upset any of the lurkers or new posters by commenting too gleefully about it.;)

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 08:54 AM
Shyeah! :p

Stoked for this book now!

Phototoxin
09-24-2013, 08:58 AM
Also bonus points if, better picture allowing, someone makes a photoshop of the statue of Khaine that says "I'm flying, Jack!"

Near, far, wherever you are in Naggaroth,
I believe that the heart does go on the fiery coals
Once more you open the door to the torture chamber
And you're here in my hearth of sulphurous coals.
And my heart will go on and on the sacrificial fire

You're here, there's nothing I fear, due to frenzy.
And I know that my heart will go on the fiery coals

Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer
09-24-2013, 09:07 AM
b) anyone ever thought that was how a creature would really have its jaw constructed ;)Considering the crazy looks other extinct sharks had, it's hard to blame them for interpreting a spiral shaped jaw like that :P Edestus and Stethacanthus, which, to the best of our knowledge, aren't mistakes;
http://pnf-primeval.wikispaces.com/file/view/Edestus%203.JPG/380066768/Edestus%203.JPG
http://0.static.wix.com/media/dd10ec4e8d2de693f604c77c5143066f.wix_mp_256

Green_Lumux
09-24-2013, 09:18 AM
I love the hydra heads.:) Not sure what but they remind me of something, maybe a cartoon dinosaur or something from my childhood.

All i can picture is Quetzalcoatl.

http://el-grimlock.deviantart.com/art/Quetzalcoatl-2-0-130714779

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:20 AM
I am a river to my people:
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4944&d=1380036011
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4943&d=1380036010
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4942&d=1380036009
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4941&d=1380036007

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:21 AM
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4948&d=1380036102
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4947&d=1380036100
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4944&d=1380036011
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4945&d=1380036099

Lexington
09-24-2013, 09:26 AM
Holy.

Living.

Eff.

Just an absolutely gorgeous set of models, through and through. Best release they've done in some time. Huge, huge props for GW on this.

PS: I'm sure this has been observed elsewhere, but anyone who wants to do alternate Daemonettes and/or other Slaaneshi conversions is having one hell of a good day.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:32 AM
This release has topped the Dark Eldar release for me, based on these pictures. I are blowed well away.:rolleyes:

archimbald
09-24-2013, 09:35 AM
are the Sisters of Slaughter Finecast or plastic? or are they in the wyches kit?

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:36 AM
Everything in this release is plastic. they are a dual kit with the Witch Elves.

This is my reaction to this release:
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/50dc7d68ecad04342000000e/the-overly-attached-girlfriend-explains-what-its-like-being-a-wildly-popular-internet-meme.jpg

Not sure I can express it as eloquently as one of the Chinese commentators on Baidu through google translate:

I see that the head chrysanthemum daisy egg pain tight. . .
Never change google translate, never change.

D6Damager
09-24-2013, 09:45 AM
Everything in this release is plastic. they are a dual kit with the Witch Elves.

This is my reaction to this release:
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/50dc7d68ecad04342000000e/the-overly-attached-girlfriend-explains-what-its-like-being-a-wildly-popular-internet-meme.jpg

Not sure I can express it as eloquently as one of the Chinese commentators on Baidu through google translate:

Never change google translate, never change.

Thanks for the clearer pics! The Khaine statue is the only thing that looks strange to me (weird proportions), but it could just be the angle of the photo and the paintjob. I can definitely see the Sisters of Slaughter being used for Dark Eldar Bloodbrides.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:48 AM
My pleasure.:) Literally when I saw the HQ Witch Elf picture...

Random complaint: I spent twenty minutes trawling Baidu to find the pictures after someone mentioned they were on there and a minute after I found them someone posted the link on Warseer.><

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 09:52 AM
Considering the crazy looks other extinct sharks had, it's hard to blame them for interpreting a spiral shaped jaw like that :P Edestus and Stethacanthus, which, to the best of our knowledge, aren't mistakes

So I just did some reading on the Helicoprion. Oh prehistoric sharks, you're so crazy ...

Loving all these models, especially the Gorgon and the fact the Dreadspears are basically identical to the current Warriors, but about 100% more awesome.

@ Eldargal: I think the difference between these and the Dark Eldar, and what puts the DE ahead in my opinion, is that the DE were multi-part and highly compatible, so much more exciting from a modelling perspective ...

Green_Lumux
09-24-2013, 09:52 AM
thank you for your efforts!! preeeeeetty much just made my day... and i'm sure my wife's. lol she's been hearing me rant about the lack of leaks for the past several weeks.

tau4eva
09-24-2013, 09:53 AM
Thank you for the pictures. I will complain about GW pricing and still purchase a lot from this release ;)

FireHazard
09-24-2013, 09:55 AM
I wasn't going to do another fantasy army. I'm still not sure I will, despite these lovely new sculpts.

That Shadowblade however... wow...:eek: GIMME!

Kirsten
09-24-2013, 09:56 AM
oh em gee :eek:

time to start saving. dark elves here I come. I'll be in my bunk.

yes that was intentional.

HERO
09-24-2013, 09:58 AM
This page here has better images:
http://loserstudio.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/new-dark-elves-2013-leaked-pictures.html

eldargal
09-24-2013, 09:59 AM
@ Eldargal: I think the difference between these and the Dark Eldar, and what puts the DE ahead in my opinion, is that the DE were multi-part and highly compatible, so much more exciting from a modelling perspective ...
Fair enough, certainly DElder will be ahead on cross compatibility terms. But I think on a pure aesthetic level DElves are ahead. Also remember we have more kits coming next month or at the end of this one.:)


This page here has better images:
http://loserstudio.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/new-dark-elves-2013-leaked-pictures.html

Already posted those.

HERO
09-24-2013, 09:59 AM
I know where my money is going November/December.

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 10:01 AM
That Shadowblade however... wow...:eek: GIMME!

Aaaaaaand still every time I read Shadowblade, I think it's an IG super-heavy tank ...

UzuhlSkulltaker
09-24-2013, 10:02 AM
Let me use my first post to:

a) thank you a lot for this lovely service you have do to this community and me in particular, being a long term Dark Elves player
b) appear to be a greedy pig: Do you have a picture of the cover of the armybook, by any chance, or the means to provide one?

Again, thank you a lot!

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 10:03 AM
Particularly impressed with the Witch Elf musician..

A bit of Slow Jazz, followed by RAZOR SHARP BRASS INSTRUMENT TO THE FACE!

eldargal
09-24-2013, 10:06 AM
Let me use my first post to:

a) thank you a lot for this lovely service you have do to this community and me in particular, being a long term Dark Elves player
b) appear to be a greedy pig: Do you have a picture of the cover of the armybook, by any chance, or the means to provide one?

Again, thank you a lot!
I wish I did, curious about the cover myself.:)


Particularly impressed with the Witch Elf musician..

A bit of Slow Jazz, followed by RAZOR SHARP BRASS INSTRUMENT TO THE FACE!
Great, now I'm going to imagine them charging into battle to Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue.

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 10:08 AM
Let me use my first post to:

a) thank you a lot for this lovely service you have do to this community and me in particular, being a long term Dark Elves player
b) appear to be a greedy pig: Do you have a picture of the cover of the armybook, by any chance, or the means to provide one?

Again, thank you a lot!

Welcome to BoLS!

One of us ... one of us ... one of us!
http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/Chanting.JPG

silashand
09-24-2013, 10:08 AM
I am going to have no money next month...

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 10:11 AM
I wish I did, curious about the cover myself.:)


Great, now I'm going to imagine them charging into battle to Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue.

I was thinking more 'Fiesta' by The Pogues meself!

Chris*ta
09-24-2013, 10:14 AM
Great, now I'm going to imagine them charging into battle to Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue.

And now I'm always going to hear this piece of music when I look at the Witch Elves :mad:

magickbk
09-24-2013, 10:22 AM
Really? I love them. You have these beautiful, sinuous, scantily clad elves juxtaposed with extremely creepy, intimidating, harsh and angular masks.

To be more clear, they are great from a design and sculpting standpoint, I'm not saying the models are bad. I think I just have a difference of opinion on the aesthetic, however, if they have an interesting story that may sway me, or it could just be the pictures and when I see the models for myself, I may feel differently. I find myself wondering what the Executioners, Black Guard, and Dark Riders will look like, given what we see here.

Emperorslion
09-24-2013, 10:32 AM
Yes! Beautiful models! I'm loving them all. Especially the old school crested warrior helmets.

Mr Mystery
09-24-2013, 10:39 AM
These also bode well for Woodies.... GW doing really nice elf physiques!

Also, really might have to update my entire collection. These are just too nice!

ONIAgent150
09-24-2013, 11:12 AM
They look great! And if you want some more feminine daemonettes, these ladies would serve nicely.

DrBored
09-24-2013, 11:32 AM
Awesome. I'm hoping that one of my buddies gets the Cauldron of Blood and builds it as that so I can buy the medusa off of him to convert into a Keeper of Secrets.

Lots of potential here. Chaos Cultists, Daemonettes, or even Traitor Penal Legion! And of course it looks like a lot of this, style wise, will work quite well with Dark Eldar...

Though for Dark Eldar, I personally like the sleeker and more militaristic hairstyles. The BigHugeMcLargeMassive hair on those witches does nothing for me.

Wildeybeast
09-24-2013, 12:39 PM
It's almost like GW knew I was getting a pay rise at the end of this month. Cash monies for strangely arousing models seems like a fair trade for me.

Archon
09-24-2013, 01:50 PM
Uh I was always in love with the witches ... but now - the are plastic and they look awesome! Well fug_in done!

The Cauldron and the other altar-thingy - yes the look very nice (indeed the witches on it and uh - yessss the meremaid-medusa) - but how do they drive? No cold ones to pull it, no slaves to push it ... magic ? perpetummobile? donīt like that

The Monsters are nice too. I even like the sea-thing - but Hydra goes first!

I realy think about re-entering warhammer with DE ... but i have tons of plasticsspures to assemble and paint for 40K ... not to mention the resin ;-)

@eldargal: Nice avatar! I love the arts of amanda and the way she makes powergirl more than a cleavage - very more, the comics are great!

gresha
09-24-2013, 03:10 PM
Everything here looks amazing. Only thing i don't know about is the Sisters of Slaughter. I really want to mod that Khaine into an Avatar. Makes me excited to see what they'll do for Wood Elves

Tullaris
09-24-2013, 06:24 PM
Wow! Thanks so much EG for posting these pics! Mind is totally blown just now, can't wait to see next's months lot now... On another note, anybody notice that the reflection on the mirror on the bloodwrack shrine looks a lot like Slaanesh's symbol? Intriguing...

elvendarkness
09-24-2013, 07:04 PM
Looking at the new hydra is well... Alright, I really prefer the last model. This new hydra looks (in my humble opinion) similar to the dragon (hand) from the movie Your Highness.

Lord Krungharr
09-24-2013, 08:44 PM
THose golden-masked dancers would make fantastic Daemonettes, and much better looking than the current plastic versions. I wish they'd have just made plastic versions of the sexy 4th edition ones though.

eldargal
09-24-2013, 11:16 PM
@eldargal: Nice avatar! I love the arts of amanda and the way she makes powergirl more than a cleavage - very more, the comics are great!

Thanks, I love her art too.:) Power Girl is my favourite superheroine alongside Batwoman.

I assume the cauldron is propelled by magic, but you could always convert some slaves to be pulling it.:)

So, Warseer has declared that the Cauldon of Blood looks like a vagina. Specifically, the stairs. Thus proving tabletop wargamers have, by and large, no idea what a vagina looks like.

White Tiger88
09-24-2013, 11:38 PM
THose golden-masked dancers would make fantastic Daemonettes, and much better looking than the current plastic versions. I wish they'd have just made plastic versions of the sexy 4th edition ones though.

Yup i am going to convert Dark Elfs from now on with the odd claw into my demonettes!

Mr Mystery
09-25-2013, 12:00 AM
Thanks, I love her art too.:) Power Girl is my favourite superheroine alongside Batwoman.

I assume the cauldron is propelled by magic, but you could always convert some slaves to be pulling it.:)

So, Warseer has declared that the Cauldon of Blood looks like a vagina. Specifically, the stairs. Thus proving tabletop wargamers have, by and large, no idea what a vagina looks like.

Which is funny, given Warseer is mostly populated by fannies....

Deadlift
09-25-2013, 12:24 AM
So that big dude on the back of the cauldron of blood, could be converted to an Avatar quite nicely :D

lattd
09-25-2013, 12:52 AM
@deadlify Yep I said that page one and no on listened :( it would be a very dark eldar avatar so great for a craft world that's being dealing with dark eldar a lot and is slipping back into the old ways, would be a great background for a team up.

Deadlift
09-25-2013, 01:08 AM
@deadlify Yep I said that page one and no on listened :( it would be a very dark eldar avatar so great for a craft world that's being dealing with dark eldar a lot and is slipping back into the old ways, would be a great background for a team up.

Sorry matey, I missed your post. Not really interested in this release to be honest. Was just flicking though the pics and noticed the "Avatar". You know what they say though "great minds think alike" :D

Learn2Eel
09-25-2013, 01:17 AM
Hmmm.

Roman Himmelhan
09-25-2013, 01:19 AM
wow, finally some perfect plastic minis to represent death cultists for my inquisitorial forces...

Justin Beaver
09-25-2013, 01:41 AM
first thing that came to my mind

DrLove42
09-25-2013, 02:33 AM
GW, that is what an Avatar of Khaine should look like. Why didn't the Eldar get a nice plastic one?

Mr Mystery
09-25-2013, 03:05 AM
GW, that is what an Avatar of Khaine should look like. Why didn't the Eldar get a nice plastic one?

Because f*** Eldar? :p

Chris*ta
09-25-2013, 03:54 AM
GW, that is what an Avatar of Khaine should look like. Why didn't the Eldar get a nice plastic one?


Because f*** Eldar? :p

Because they'd sell almost none? It's a not-very-popular unit in a not-very-popular army, that you can only take one of, anyway. Besides, go FW ...

eldargal
09-25-2013, 03:57 AM
Actually Eldar are a very popular army, historically the second best selling army after Marines depending on the age of the codex. The trouble with the Avatar isthat it's GW model is very old and horrible while the FW models are too big and expensive for regular games.

Steven Palmer
09-25-2013, 04:00 AM
I wannnttt d: D: D:

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-25-2013, 04:07 AM
If anyone wants to chuck spares from the Kharibdyss kit at me, Cthulhu would appreciate it.

Tyrendian
09-25-2013, 09:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4FkKf98Z2o

might those ships towards the end actually be the book cover? I doubt it, but it sure as hell would be awesome!

Learn2Eel
09-25-2013, 10:04 AM
Rules via Kiwi Hammer (http://kiwihammer.co.nz/new-dark-elf-rulesinfo-from-the-wd/).


New Releases

All of the new models look great
The DE Army book is written by Matt Ward
The largest dual kit is the Cauldron of Blood which allows you to make either a Cauldron of Blood or a Bloodwrack Medusa. You can also use this kit to make the special character Crone Hellebron.
The next dual kit is Witch Elves and the Sisters of Slaughter – Sisters of Slaughter are apparently the lost daughters of fallen noble houses and look great.
The new DE Core box allows you to make your warriors with Spears, Swords and Shields or Repeater Cross-bows.
The Dual Hydra/Kharibdyss kit looks pretty good, there are pictures of the Hydra with different paint schemes that actually look a lot better than the leaked photo we’ve already seen.
The Special Character Shadowblade is a single pose figure that will come in a clampack
There is a Lore of Dark Magic Card set being released.

Army Special Rules/Points Cost

Dark Elves now have the armywide special rule of ASF (unsure if this will apply to monsters/cold ones)
Dark Elves also have Hatred but presumably only in the first round
Black Guard have eternal hatred
New Rule called murderous prowess allows Dark Elves to re-roll 1′s to wound. Unsure if this will extend to shooting and magic.
There is a new Beastmaster Lord Level Character which costs 300 points when naked on a Manticore
Witch Elves are core and 11 points per model. They can also take magical banners.
A unit of 30 Spear Elves and of 30 Xbow Elves with Full command costs 390 points. Unsure what options were used but that means the warriors were 12 points per model.
A DE Sorceress Hero looks to be 80 points
Cauldrons of Blood still come out of Hero slots and look to have increased in points. They can join units and one of their powers allows a unit to re-roll to wound. In the Batrep a unit with a Cauldron and this buff up deletes a unit of Sobunz.
Bloodwrack Medusas are rare and have a shooting attack called Bloodwrack Stare. Not sure what it does
Hydras can now regain wounds in a manner similar to the Slann with the regen power of the old ones. They are now 180 points, have monster+handler but have to buy their breath weapon.
Lore of Dark Magic – The attribute is called spiteful conjuration and does extra wounds to enemies that have spells cast on them. Unsure of how the mechanic works but could be similar to Tz lore attribute?
Lore of Dark Magic – Only spell mentioned is called Word of Pain and it reduces WS/BS/I
A Dreadlord with Heavy Armour and a Shield on a Black Dragon costs 449 points.
Cold Ones are 30 points and have 2 Attacks, unsure if the cold ones themselves have ASF

Phototoxin
09-25-2013, 10:31 AM
Question - on the snake mirror throne bloodwrack thing, can the medusa come off that or is it affixed to it?

eldargal
09-25-2013, 10:34 AM
She can be removed, the WD page has her pictured on a 40mm base

Chris*ta
09-25-2013, 11:22 AM
Yeah, I can't help but think she'd make a great something in a Dark Eldar army ...

Wildeybeast
09-25-2013, 12:29 PM
Yup i am going to convert Dark Elfs from now on with the odd claw into my demonettes!

I had to convert Daemonettes into DE Harpies because the current ones are hideous and incredibly expensive. How ironic.

YorkNecromancer
09-25-2013, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I can't help but think she'd make a great something in a Dark Eldar army ...

My haemonculi coven agrees with you. She will make a lovely Master Haemonculus. :)

As for the other stuff, as others have observed, those witch elves are exactly what we needed for Inquisitorial death cultists.

Houghten
09-25-2013, 05:14 PM
Yeah, I can't help but think she'd make a great something in a Dark Eldar army ...

Clawed fiend?

Wolfrahm
09-26-2013, 01:39 AM
It's kinda funny how everyone is already thinking of what other army to use the new models in, haha, same here. Thought how the bald witches would make great daemonettes. How the Medusa would be a great character in warhammer quest. As with many here, we already have huge DE armies so the appeal of the new stuff is some what lost. I'm just hoping the fixed what needed to be fixed in our book and magic. I started fantasy in 5th ed with DE and have loved them ever since until the new books started coming out and they removed soooo many of the magic items, banners, etc. and then saw the HE book, so hopefully ours will get that treatment. I have to say, I'm kinda worried but excited at the same time. As for the harpies, I was digging thru some of my bits boxes a few weeks ago and found mine, never fielded them and now hopefully they will be good to field. My Dark Eldar army is already so big that I can't even think about turning loose of the money to use any in it. Anyhow, happy gaming and hoping for the best!

Mr Mystery
09-26-2013, 02:00 AM
My haemonculi coven agrees with you. She will make a lovely Master Haemonculus. :)

As for the other stuff, as others have observed, those witch elves are exactly what we needed for Inquisitorial death cultists.

Alternate Grotesque? WYSIWYG wise where she lacks width, she adds in height.

Learn2Eel
09-26-2013, 03:20 AM
Mr Jax's girlfriend pretty much demanded he buy her a Medusa :D I hope its Aussie cost is low!

I might get the army book and *maybe* do a review, but as cool as the models are, Dark Elves just aren't for me.
From the rules I saw, it sounds like they are getting big price increases across the board as expected. Hydras being 180 and having to buy their breath weapon, I'm guessing with a reduced stat-line as well. Apparently they are special now though so that might be nasty! But it seems like Repeater Crossbowmen and Warriors (the Dark Elf Spearmen, right?) are 12 points each going by the battle report army, which is a big, big change. It may have been something lost in translation though, as I seriously doubt Dark Elves would pay 3 points more per Spear-elf than High Elves do. I can definitely see Repeater Crossbowmen being 2 points more than Archers though....

Mr Mystery
09-26-2013, 03:21 AM
'Ere......

All those bouncy, leapy Sisters of Slaughter.....how cool would they look converted up as Wyches, launching themselves from an exploding Raider??

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-26-2013, 03:24 AM
It certainly has tempted me to do a funky Arena Dark Eldar army...

Mr Mystery
09-26-2013, 05:14 AM
Will be nipping down the shop on Saturday to pre-order methinks!

Well...actually, no I won't. As this needs to go on Credit Card, and I can't pay my bill until I get my statement (otherwise it doesn't count, careful on that one kids!). K. Picking it up week on Saturday instead it is then!

eldargal
09-26-2013, 05:15 AM
Mr Jax's girlfriend pretty much demanded he buy her a Medusa :D I hope its Aussie cost is low!
USD/AUD/NZD price list from Plastic Krak:

Dark Elf army book: $US 49.50 $AU 83 $NZ 98
Dark Elves Battle magic: $US 6 $AU 8.5 $NZ 10
Shadowblade: $US 20 $AU 22 $NZ 26
Dreadspears: $US 35 $AU 45 $NZ 50
Witchelves: $US 60 $AU 70 $NZ 80
Hydra: $US 65 $AU 70 $NZ 85
Cauldron: $US 75 $AU 80 $NZ 95

Edit: Copy and paste fail, added Cauldron...

Jimmynurgle
09-26-2013, 08:26 AM
USD/AUD/NZD price list from Plastic Krak:


Edit: Copy and paste fail, added Cauldron...

Still don't understand who thought the cost of the WE box was acceptable... good thing I wasn't looking to start a Khainite army... I want more of a Beasts army...

I Assume the Sises of Slaughter are the WE, just a dual build box?

eldargal
09-26-2013, 09:03 AM
Yup.

Wildeybeast
09-26-2013, 10:46 AM
Will be nipping down the shop on Saturday to pre-order methinks!

Do they not have the internets where you live?

Houghten
09-26-2013, 01:07 PM
It's called "supporting your local store."

Archon
09-26-2013, 02:31 PM
I assume the cauldron is propelled by magic, but you could always convert some slaves to be pulling it.:)

This would be a stylish way to go with!

Nard
09-26-2013, 03:05 PM
Everything in this release is plastic. they are a dual kit with the Witch Elves.

This is my reaction to this release:
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/50dc7d68ecad04342000000e/the-overly-attached-girlfriend-explains-what-its-like-being-a-wildly-popular-internet-meme.jpg

Not sure I can express it as eloquently as one of the Chinese commentators on Baidu through google translate:

Never change google translate, never change.

Second that look of joy

Those models are beautiful. The Merusa is exceptional. The witch guards look great.

The witch elves are brilliant. The hydra is brilliant. Shadowblade is brilliant. The dreadspears are.........nothing to write home about. Are they high elves with some dark elf detail stuck on?

And eldargal...going by that picture......your beautiful to love ;)

lattd
09-26-2013, 03:42 PM
The picture is from the overly attached girlfriend song on YouTube, will admit I prefer the old hydra heads but this is a great release!

eldargal
09-26-2013, 10:08 PM
The picture is from the overly attached girlfriend song on YouTube, will admit I prefer the old hydra heads but this is a great release!

Yup, best meme ever.;)

angrybear
09-27-2013, 03:03 AM
Pictures from new dark elves army book cover (normal and LE edition).

Army book cover

This one is amazing and probably my favourite of all 8th edition books (fits greek mythology perfectly)

http://campl.us/cKoMoEYyrvG

LE

For the witch elves fans:P

http://campl.us/GtL35eoQPLs

Pictures are from Warseer "RTGamer" (all credits go to him).

eldargal
09-27-2013, 03:14 AM
*squeeeeee*

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 03:32 AM
Very, very nice!

Particularly how the semi-naked Witch Elf doesn't look like someone you'd want to hand around, regardless of how 'sexy' she is....clearly a nutter!

eldargal
09-27-2013, 03:45 AM
Yup. You're not thinking 'wow bewbs!' you're thinking 'this semi naked woman covered in blood just leaped out at me from a dark alley and she's grinning at me oh god why is she grinning at me ohgodohgodohgod that guy on the ground there is clutching his groin and whimpering and there is blood everywhere oh god"

I like her a lot.

Pre-orders go up at midnight yes?

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 04:10 AM
I dunno....

When it comes to Witch Elves, I've always imagined it more....'Hey, isn't that a Witc.....hold on....I'm sure I had eyes a second ago. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I also had a liver, and kidneys. And kneecaps come to think of it.....'

eldargal
09-27-2013, 04:23 AM
Really? You think any of those things would be a Witch Elfs priority target?:p

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 04:42 AM
Well, being married to Khaine, one can only assume that like a good wife, she has no designs on any other gent's wedding tackle, thank you very much.

They may be blood crazed cult lunatics on a variety of mind altering drugs, but that doesn't mean they're strumpets as well!

eldargal
09-27-2013, 04:55 AM
Not sure it counts as strumpeting when you're cutting the bits off with a knife while giggling insanely and then fashioning them into earrings.

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 05:15 AM
They're still taking pleasure in another gent's family jewels....and there's those that might get a bit 'half a teacake' before the job is complete!

They might allow foot/bits interfacing, but I'm not sure testicular earrings are favoured by their husband!

Though it does raise the interesting play on words about 'body jewelry' where Dark Elves are concerned. I'm sure many have pierced ears, nippynoos and that....just it's quite rare for them to have their own ear, nippynoos and that pierced....

eldargal
09-27-2013, 05:40 AM
I don't know, I think Khaine, while gazing down at a temple full of Witch Elves, would not be thinking 'gosh I hope none of them have come into contact with another mans genitals;.

'cos Khaine is a feminist and doesn't slut shame.:p

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 05:47 AM
Is he a feminist? With his Harem? And demands that he'll keep you young, if you do what he says?

Sounds a bit suspect to me!

eldargal
09-27-2013, 06:09 AM
Totes. He uses his authority to create a male-free zone in which the women are empowered and men get their hearts ripped out and burnt on pyres to keep everyone toasty warm.;)

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 06:11 AM
Yeah, but he's the world's biggest bigamist!!! Loads of wives!!!

Gotthammer
09-27-2013, 06:17 AM
And they're all cool with it - so long as everyone is aware of each other's boundaries and respects them mutually it shouldn't be a problem.

eldargal
09-27-2013, 06:18 AM
And they're all cool with it - so long as everyone is aware of each other's boundaries and respects them mutually it shouldn't be a problem.
Exactly.

Deadlift
09-27-2013, 06:20 AM
Yeah right, this is dark elves right ? Respect for each other pffttt.

eldargal
09-27-2013, 06:32 AM
That's why the Temple of Khaine is superior to mainstream Dark Elf society. Malekith is a creepy beta with a magic metal fedora and a Oedipus complex. Khaine is cool and laid back so long as the blood keeps flowing.;)

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 06:33 AM
It's a patriarchial hegemony in the temple! Probably.

I don't actually know what a hegemony is. But it might be a small, spiky mammal.

eldargal
09-27-2013, 06:36 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/4c719a91e00939d6019623897badb7e2/tumblr_mmgfwd1keN1rl6c79o1_500.gif

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 06:39 AM
Sansa..................(yes I'm aware of age IRL and on show....correct one applies thankfully)

Jimmynurgle
09-27-2013, 06:58 AM
That's why the Temple of Khaine is superior to mainstream Dark Elf society. Malekith is a creepy beta with a magic metal fedora and a Oedipus complex. Khaine is cool and laid back so long as the blood keeps flowing.;)

For some reason I read that in my head with a creepy "Dune" voice.... "The Blood must flow..."

Yeah.. I must be getting in a DE frame of mind....

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 07:08 AM
Man I can't wait to get my grubby mitts on this puppy!

I always buy all the books anyway, because I'm a completist weirdo, and it gives me reading material for the bog, but this time, it's an army I actively play!

angrybear
09-27-2013, 08:03 AM
Canīt wait for the book, the high elves had some interesting stories. The 7th edition dark elf army book is quit blank. The older versions were much more mature. I always wonder why every dark elf lord is killed if he fails to achieve victory but Malekith may fail every invasion he ever does. Hope Malus Darkblade gets some interesting fluff....some plot against malekith would be interesting.

Mr Mystery
09-27-2013, 08:07 AM
Honestly, I kind of hope they don't do that with Malus.

His story is cool enough as it is!

eldargal
09-28-2013, 02:07 AM
From Plastic Krak, sneaky sneak peaks of Executioners (left) and Black Guard (right) behind the Dreadspears in the IPad preview:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AKH5mVNvviE/UkZ2Ig3U1WI/AAAAAAAABhQ/m3QREMJoDoY/s1600/photo.png
also some horsies visible in this picture:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hiFS5lL69jw/UkaCqWjeenI/AAAAAAAABhg/07VOj8fBR5s/s1600/image.jpg

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 02:25 AM
Elves trying to be scary doesn't work... >.<

Deadlift
09-28-2013, 02:27 AM
Elves trying to be scary doesn't work... >.<

Lol, I think of dobby the house elf when you say it like that. Dobby wants a sock ;)

eldargal
09-28-2013, 02:42 AM
Elves trying to be scary doesn't work... >.<

Obviously you've never had an angry woman in her underwear coming at you with a knife.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 03:12 AM
I've seen an angry woman in her underwear though... 2 out of 3 isn't bad.

eldargal
09-28-2013, 03:14 AM
You poor innocent.:p

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 03:21 AM
I didn't know she had an identical twin. xD

Mr Mystery
09-28-2013, 03:35 AM
From Plastic Krak, sneaky sneak peaks of Executioners (left) and Black Guard (right) behind the Dreadspears in the IPad preview:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AKH5mVNvviE/UkZ2Ig3U1WI/AAAAAAAABhQ/m3QREMJoDoY/s1600/photo.png
also some horsies visible in this picture:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hiFS5lL69jw/UkaCqWjeenI/AAAAAAAABhg/07VOj8fBR5s/s1600/image.jpg

Well **** the bed! It is a two month release!

SQUEEEE!!!

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 03:36 AM
Weirdo.

Mr Mystery
09-28-2013, 03:37 AM
Hello!!!! *waves*

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 03:38 AM
....

Kirsten
09-28-2013, 04:01 AM
slightly wary of the executioner models, the current ones are some of my favourite releases ever, was blown away by them when they first came out. those sneak peeks all look a bit static and same pose-y, hopefully better pics will prove that wrong

eldargal
09-28-2013, 04:09 AM
Bit hard to see much, the current ones are great though so they do have big boots to fill. not as big as the Witch Elves though (see what I did there? 'cos they are wearing thigh high boots...):p

Nice picture from the GW blog:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3460384a_1.jpg

Come get it while it's hot!

also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_I8tXa6rM

angrybear
09-28-2013, 04:18 AM
Thanks for the pics Eldargal. The hydra is amazing on that pic (however the blue is strange)..I dont get why they put the bad paint job hydra everywhere *white dwarf*. The black guard look really cool and beat the old sculpts. The executioners are a bit of mixed feeling. Reserve judgment till better pics.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 04:23 AM
Prefer High Elveses.

angrybear
09-28-2013, 04:27 AM
Prefer High Elveses.

Releases *Shadowblade*.

Mr Mystery
09-28-2013, 04:41 AM
Prefer High Elveses.

That's because you're a wussy. Wussy.

Wildeybeast
09-28-2013, 05:16 AM
Everyone knows wood elves are the best elves. Everyone save GW. :(

Mr Mystery
09-28-2013, 06:30 AM
Silly Stick Pixies!

Proteus
09-28-2013, 08:19 AM
Great release.

The Witch Elves are the best of the bunch, the poses are amazing.

My only major gripe with the new models, are weapon sizes on those DE Warriors. The new warriors follow all the updated "elvish" design ques and sport much sleeker and sexier lines/shapes in their armour and silhuoette (much like the updated HE models), but those spears and swords they wield, sure look cartoonishly big.

But overally great work.

Bit worried about the Executioners though. The skull masks make sense fluff-wise, but I sure loved the old "chainmail bandana" inside the helmet look.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-28-2013, 08:33 AM
I now want to start High Elves. xD

Deadlift
09-28-2013, 09:17 AM
Prefer High Elveses.

I prefer Christmas ones.

Kirsten
09-28-2013, 09:23 AM
My only major gripe with the new models, are weapon sizes on those DE Warriors. The new warriors follow all the updated "elvish" design ques and sport much sleeker and sexier lines/shapes in their armour and silhuoette (much like the updated HE models), but those spears and swords they wield, sure look cartoonishly big.


I agree when it comes to the swords definitely, those are not duelling weapons at all, they look more like fancy machetes.

angrybear
09-30-2013, 02:01 AM
51575158515951605161

New dark elf (second release wave).

All credits go to zhangyi from Warseer.

angrybear
09-30-2013, 02:02 AM
51625163516451655166

angrybear
09-30-2013, 02:04 AM
Love the new models except the sword leg and the warlocks.

eldargal
09-30-2013, 02:04 AM
The cold one chariot is arousing. The Dark Riders look nice. Warlock things are creepy looking which is probably the goal.

Black Guard look fantastic in my opinion. Executioners are lovely. Disappointed by a lack of female torsos, don't like the armour being for boys only thing Dark Elves have going on now.

Lore seems decent, the Attribute is more lore friendly and characterful than exceptionally powerful which is good.

angrybear
09-30-2013, 02:09 AM
The cold one chariot is arousing. The Dark Riders look nice. Warlock things are creepy looking which is probably the goal.

How do you like the new black guard/executioners? I really like the black guard and the executioners are okay. I will buy the new executioners but only because I don't own the old ones.

eldargal
09-30-2013, 02:11 AM
I like them a lot, the Black Guard in particular I think are wonderful. The Executioners are great and personally I prefer them to the current models but I think a lot of people won't and may be a bit disappointed.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-30-2013, 02:47 AM
The cold one chariot is arousing.

You need to get out more...

eldargal
09-30-2013, 02:56 AM
You need to get out more...
Says the boy who has never known the gentle love of a reptile.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-30-2013, 02:58 AM
I've been to Newcastle... But the love certainly wasn't gentle...

Cap'nSmurfs
09-30-2013, 05:49 AM
The next wave looks great. Loving the sword-pegleg Corsair, that's just delightful; going Full Pirate is never a bad idea. The Black Guard are awesome, always liked those. Executioners I like slightly less, but at least they don't just look like Evil Swordmasters now; the distinction between the tall-helmed infantry and skullhats gives them a nice, distinct visual profile.

On the lack of female torsos - a little disappointing, but you can always just pretend that Dark Elves are wearing Sensible Female Armour which isn't deflecting the force of any blow on their chest straight into their hearts. :)

Yeah. Awesome range, this.

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 05:59 AM
More lovely stuff. Though I can't help but notice the lack of Chariot wheels....

But yes, well impressed. Black Guard look very 80's/90's Goth, of which I wholeheartedly approve!

eldargal
09-30-2013, 06:04 AM
There is a big wheel at the back.

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 06:07 AM
I'm not sure that's a wheel...

But won't have that long to wait! Woo!

angrybear
09-30-2013, 06:55 AM
I really like the chariots especially the harpoon chariot. The warlocks are a bit of a miss compared to the witches. The blue/white hair doesn't make it better I must admit. Its to daemonic for my taste. But a nice conversion with glade guard hoods can make a nice conversion if the rules are any good.

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 07:00 AM
Ooh, hold on...

Not liking the teeth on the Dark Steeds....

Kaptain Badrukk
09-30-2013, 07:03 AM
Ooh, hold on...

Not liking the teeth on the Dark Steeds....

Quick it's time to trot (snicker) out the horse dentists!

* EDIT, Horse Dentists are they a real thing?

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 07:07 AM
Quick it's time to trot (snicker) out the horse dentists!

* EDIT, Horse Dentists are they a real thing?

Yes. Probably. You don't want to see the sorts of tools they use though....

Phototoxin
09-30-2013, 09:33 AM
Completely underwhelmed. Not a fan of the 'reliant robin' chariot or the dark riders or captain swordleg. Blackguard and executioners are alright though. But again at the latest pricing insanity I won't be buying any of them which disappoints me as I foolishly got a few dark elf pieces before the release.

FireHazard
09-30-2013, 09:44 AM
Some very pretty models but I'm surprised, and a little disappointed, that neither Malekith nor Morathi have been updated.

eldargal
09-30-2013, 09:50 AM
Well you can make Malekith from the Black Dragon kit. Morathi is an interesting absence, I wonder if we might not see a plastic Sorceress on Dark Pegasus kit one day with a Morathi option.

Nice big photo of the Cauldron on the GW blog, open in it's own tab to maximise size:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3470118a_1.jpg

Rupert Cole
09-30-2013, 10:06 AM
I can't believe they aren't doing new Harpies...

eldargal
09-30-2013, 10:09 AM
Well it was already a huge release, I guess they had to priotise. I hope they get around to it before long, though.

mearn4d10
09-30-2013, 10:31 AM
I love the hydra heads.:) Not sure what but they remind me of something, maybe a cartoon dinosaur or something from my childhood.

Bits and pieces of Tiamat from the old D&D cartoon, at first glance. Ahhhhhhh, childhood...

Stepfan
09-30-2013, 12:30 PM
Those executrioners make me sad, and the black guard are only okay. I do like the Dark Riders, and the cold one chariot at least. Ooohhh well wave one was awesome.

robjohan
09-30-2013, 01:19 PM
A simple headswap on the executioners should do it. Altough I actually like them, but the again this is all crack to me...

Kirsten
09-30-2013, 01:20 PM
I like them a lot, the Black Guard in particular I think are wonderful. The Executioners are great and personally I prefer them to the current models but I think a lot of people won't and may be a bit disappointed.

black guard are ok but a bit static, not terribly keen on the executioners personally :/


Ooh, hold on...

Not liking the teeth on the Dark Steeds....

yeah the horses look seriously weird, might have to replace them with something better. Don't like the chariot, the steeds and crew look fine, probably have to replace the actual chariot with something else

not keen on captain sword leg. all in all not a fan of the second wave.

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 01:32 PM
As much as I'm not convinced by the dark steeds....

1. Could just be the paint job or angle.
2. The riders are jaw dropping! Especially the culty looking ones!

Kirsten
09-30-2013, 01:38 PM
the riders are excellent

Wildeybeast
09-30-2013, 01:52 PM
Lore seems decent, the Attribute is more lore friendly and characterful than exceptionally powerful which is good.

I think it is pretty weak in comparison to most of the other store attributes. With the exception of beast and shadow, most manage to be fluffy and also quite useful. This will do pretty much nothing.

Also, is it just me or does the chariot not have any wheels?

Viktor Julian
09-30-2013, 02:12 PM
51575158515951605161

New dark elf (second release wave).

All credits go to zhangyi from Warseer.

Where are the wheels on the chariots?

ACE01
09-30-2013, 02:19 PM
Loving those new horses! May have finally found something to do my TK with...

Eldar_Atog
09-30-2013, 02:28 PM
Says the boy who has never known the gentle love of a reptile.

*snicker*

Yup, you get a warm supple hug and they get a nice comfy, heated mattress. Kinda like one of those heated tables :)

Mr Mystery
09-30-2013, 03:30 PM
To all you new Bolsters, and those with a lower post count..

Welcome to one of the best gaming forums there is. We're mature, we're astute, and we're pretty dashed polite, interwebularly speaking!

Please, stick around! The Fantasy boards are pretty quiet, so any and all new bold is very welcome! Please, help me get my froth on!!

Forgotten Heretic
09-30-2013, 04:00 PM
I quite like the second wave, the black guard and executioners are lovely, as are both versions of the chariot. the fleet master is nice but I think a different pose would have suited, might just be the angle of the picture though. I actually prefer the look of the warlocks to the dark riders, a nice and creepy cursed elf look. I don't like the head of the rider with the two braids and the one on the right just looks like a standard warrior on a horse (though a nice looking model still)

kappa1az
09-30-2013, 04:15 PM
I really love the models, but the price on the WE is just crazy. $60.00 for 10.00 here in the States is borderline robbery. Oh well guess no WE in my army if I start a DE army. The price of Hydra and Cauldron seem on par with the other large kit prices.


tim

Kibbles Lil-Bit
09-30-2013, 05:38 PM
All I see when I look at the Bloodwrack Shrine is the Medusa's bottom half married to a Chaos Marine torso.

Chapter Master Jake
09-30-2013, 05:44 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that GW hires all the good sculptors for Warhammer and make the interns sculpt for Warhammer 40,000?

Those Black Guard / Executioners look AWESOME. Those Dark Riders look phenomenal, darkly graceful yet menacing. Even the cloned white-skinned, white-haired legions of stabby elf chicks have a fierce beauty about them.

I wish the Empire could be given a fitting look... Some nobility in the faces and forms of Empire models would be inspiring enough to buy into fantasy.

Learn2Eel
09-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Ah, GW. I'm afraid that you've lost yourselves a High Elf player.
However.....you've gained yourselves a Dark Elf player.

Before anyone cries "bandwagoner", I'll simply say this; the two deciding factors for me actually have nothing to do with the rules. First up is that the ancient Core models were updated for Dark Elves (and look awesome) but the High Elf ones remain. Secondly, I love my monsters; I have so many centre-piece monster models for both games that I'm sure I have more of them than I do regular Infantry! Jokes aside, even though High Elves have the greater range of monsters, Dark Elves have a significant advantage; outside of one or two Phoenixes, I will actually use those monsters. For High Elves, I pretty much have to take an Archmage, a Mage and a Noble BSB, leaving no room for monsters there. The only other place to get them? The highly competitive Rare slot featuring Sisters of Averlorn and Repeater Bolt Throwers. Contrast that to Dark Elves now. Special Bolt Throwers means that my Rare points are up for grabs to the lovely Kharibdyss. In my usual games limit (2000) I can spend up to 1000 on Special, meaning two or three Hydras - particularly at their low cost - is almost a given, and the model for them is awesome, and I can still take Bolt Throwers and a big unit of Black Guard or Executioners, who IMO are better looking than Sword Masters or White Lions.

Going back to the Core models.....the entire range is plastic, and they are all pretty new. The Witch Elves and Spearmen/Swordsmen/Crossbowmen are all new and look good, the Corsairs also look quite cool. Contrast that to High Elves where I can only get Reavers in metal or from IoB, the Spearmen and Archers are horrendously outdated, and the Silver Helms are about as uninspiring a cavalry unit as you can get model-wise. The Sea Guard are great looking though and are quite easy to get.

So pretty much....GW doesn't want me to be a High Elf player. It also bears mentioning that the native lore Dark Elves have will be more useful overall - High Magic doesn't work for High Elves as too many of the spells are direct damage/etc, but they need those ward saves for combat - they have Core units that scream "take me" in the form of blender Witch Elves and more than decent 4+ armoured 2 attack Corsairs (who seem to be a lot better than Sea Guard as well overall with better magic support), not to mention that all Dark Elf Core units can take magic banners while High Elves can only have them on generic Spearmen. Oh, and 2+ armour saves for a foot character without needing magic items due to the sea dragon cloak. Why am I bothering with lion cloaks again? Did I mention those amazing Black Guard and Executioner models?

So yeah, I've been converted to the dark side, and I know I'm going to be very happy for it.
And before anyone says this post is a whine-fest, please remember that this isn't saying the High Elf release/army book was bad - quite the contrary, I still like both a lot - but the Dark Elf one is just amazing!

In saying that, if the rumours are true that 9th is in the middle of next year, I'll wait until then before I start them up as so much could change. I've got to build up my Eldar and plan for the new Tyranids anyway.

Red Angel
09-30-2013, 10:51 PM
WOAH that Soul Stealer magic power is insane! :D
the models look awesome too :D

Rabid Ferret
10-01-2013, 12:54 AM
Man... I like swordleg but he look like he is on the verge of a nasty faceplant...

Mr Mystery
10-01-2013, 05:16 AM
My god!!! Doombolt is horrendous for a Signature Spell!

Lots of S5 hits please Santa, yespleasethankyou!!

Chillwind is, well, it's Chillwind. Pretty useful overall.

Word of Pain, followed by Bladethingy is very, very nasty!

Shroud of Despair? Tasty....

And the other two I haven't bothered to read!

Oh, and other sig spell...+1 S on a unit, and moar power dice? Oh go on then, if you insist! :p

angrybear
10-01-2013, 02:20 PM
Where are the wheels on the chariots?

There is a wheel under the carriage. The chariots only have one wheel.

angrybear
10-01-2013, 02:23 PM
My god!!! Doombolt is horrendous for a Signature Spell!


Chillwind is, well, it's Chillwind. Pretty useful overall.



I found Chillwind the only useless spell. Its weaker then the previous version in both damage and usefulness. You are lucky to kill a goblin with that spell. Al round its a very cool looking lore without a OP attribute like the high elves (good thing).

Mr Mystery
10-01-2013, 02:58 PM
Regarding Chillwind, given its best used against ranged units, it will rarely need to do more than drop a Gobbo, or equivalent. Stunties are the only army that jumps to mind where it will really struggle, as they match high T and decent armour. Leadbelchers have the T but not the save.

angrybear
10-01-2013, 03:14 PM
True but my main problem with the spell that it probably wonīt attract any dispel dice. Power of darkness for example will attract probably a few dispel dices which increases our chance to cast one of deadly spells like word of pain. Its not terrible but I did not see the need to nerf it to s2 from str3 and weaken its effect (cant shoot to -1 bs).

Mr Mystery
10-01-2013, 03:31 PM
With our sig spells, to me it's not a worry.

In the situations where it's less useful, swap for Doombolt one, which is filth!

eldargal
10-02-2013, 12:12 AM
Limited Edition Army book is sold out in Britain and Europe, still available in US and Australia. In case anyone is interested.

eldargal
10-03-2013, 09:51 AM
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3470137a_3.jpg
Pretty picture from GW Blog.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
10-25-2013, 04:52 PM
They are all really reasonably priced...

Mr Mystery
10-25-2013, 05:18 PM
Man the Warlocks just look better and better!

Could even stand in, suitably painted, for that Ethereal VC unit.

Wildeybeast
10-25-2013, 07:14 PM
They are all really reasonably priced...

I'm not sure Ģ30 for ten models is reasonable. Though I guess that would depend on what your views of ten models for Ģ35 are.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
10-25-2013, 07:40 PM
Oh yeah. Though I'm thinking of their true purpose, as Incubi. Much cheaper than buying two Finecast boxes.

Wildeybeast
10-26-2013, 04:42 AM
Tru dat.