1850 GK, tourney army

[Mcpolle]

Ok, guys, trying to make GK work, what do you think, would this army give you any headaches, or too easy to pull apart??

Grey Knights (1850/1850pt.) (http://hq-builder.com/shared/5232d38a028dbb04c7eb04aa)


@HQ [ 1 ]

Inquisitor Coteaz (100pt.) Artificer armour; Bolt pistol; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Master-crafted Nemesis Daemon hammer; Psyber-eagle;

@Elites [ 3 ]

Vindicare Assassin (145pt.) Synskin; Exitus pistol; Exitus rifle; Frag grenades; Blind grenades;

Paladin squad (55pt.)
> 1x - Paladin (55pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;

Paladin squad (55pt.)
> 1x - Paladin (55pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;

@Troops [ 3 ]

5x - Grey Knight Terminator squad (225pt.)
> 1x - Terminator Justicar (40pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 3x - Terminator (40pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force halberd; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 1x - Terminator (65pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force halberd; Psycannon; Nemesis Daemon Hammer;

8x - Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (135pt.)
> 8x - Psyker (10pt.); Flak armour; Laspistol;
> 1x - Inquisitorial Chimera (55pt.); Smoke launchers; Multi-laser; Heavy bolter;

4x - Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (115pt.)
> 2x - Servitor (20pt.); Flak armour; Plasma cannon;
> 1x - Servitor (10pt.); Flak armour; Servo-arm;
> 1x - Mystic (10pt.); Flak armour; Laspistol; (had to put a mystic here, as could not for some reason get the third plasma cannon
> 1x - Inquisitorial Chimera (55pt.); Smoke launchers; Multi-laser; Heavy bolter;

@Fast attack [ 2 ]

10x - Grey Knight Interceptor squad (295pt.)
> 1x - Justicar (51pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Storm bolter; Nemesis warding stave;
> 8x - Grey Knight (26pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 1x - Grey Knight (36pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Psycannon;

Stormraven Gunship (235pt.) Mindstrike missiles (x4); Ceramite plating; Twin-linked Multi-melta; Twin-linked Plasma cannon; Hurricane bolters;

@Heavy support [ 2 ]

Land Raider (255pt.) Twin-linked heavy bolter; Twin-linked lascannon (x2); Smoke launchers;

Dreadnought (135pt.) Smoke launchers; Twin-linked autocannon (x2); Psybolt ammunition;

@Fortification [ 1 ]

Aegis Defense Line (100pt.) Gun emplacement with quad-gun;

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[chicop76]

I think it's ok. Not facing a ton of shooty spam coming from psycannons. Honestly you have some range and some midrange fire. The only real ranged threat is your assassin. Regular terminators are not scary, Paladins are, but only as two units of one are not scary.

It won't win tournaments, but it's not really bad. Thinking of my army list I would say my Daemons and Tau would have no problems defeating that list. My Tyranids may have problems due to how the list is designed. Overall I give it like a 5.5 between 1-10.

[Mcpolle]

Any tips on how to make it better??

[chicop76]

Depends on what you are trying to do.

1. I say more psycannons would be helpful
2. Razarbacks with heavy bolter/ psy ammo is good
3. If you go paladins take them as a bigger squad with fnp. You don't have to take them, but if you do draigo isn't a bad option.
4. I am guessing cortez is going with the servitors due to mind lock.

I have no issue with the psyker battle squad, but I find a smaller squad with other units tend to be helpful, once the chimera explodes it really reduces the effectiveness of the squad, so crusaders, daemon host, etc can take the hits for the squad. Crusaders have a better save, while the host is tougher. Also the host have I think a 1/3 chance to shoot as well.

The terminators is your only scoring squad that can move in an take objectives unless you play the scouring. I am in favor of crusaders/ deathcult or regular grey knights, or paladins as troops. Terminators are too easy to defeat nowadays, paladins are a bit tougher ask Darklink, he lives and dies by them.

the main problem with greyknights is builds, which are all viable.

1. Psycannon, rifleman spam mostly greyknights and dreadnaoughts with heavybolter razarbacks
2. Paladin spam which have riflemen or dreadknights and draigo
3. Or Cortez with heavy warbands with some crusaders/ deathcult.

the problem with the list is it seems to be trying to go with elements of all 3. Which make it hard to say if you should take out x or add why. I suggest going a cross of two would be better. 1 and 3 would be really good choices for how you already have your lis, which means drop the paladins.

I am not a fan of plasma cannons, experinced players can space out making the cannon most of the time hit only one model, also the fact it can kill you. Although I like plasma rifles. That's just my 2 cents. If I knew what direction you wanted to go and what units you are willing to lose and or add I can make more suggestions.

[Kraggi]

Personally I would go with the list below for my shock and awe tactic,

Turn 1 and you have two Dreadknights, 10 Interceptors, and 5 Terminators in your deployment zone.

Makes for quick games one way or another lol.

This list isn't 100% the one I would use at 1850 as I am still thinking about it but it does a decent job.

Grey Knights (1850/1850pt.)
http://hq-builder.com/shared/52344596028dbb04c7eb0560


@HQ [ 2 ]

Ordo Malleus inquisitor (80pt.) Psyk-out grenades; Psycannon; Nemesis Daemon hammer; Terminator armour;

Grand Master Mordrak (320pt.) Terminator armour; Storm bolter; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Master-crafted Namasis Daemon hammer; Iron Halo;
# 3x - Ghost Knights (120pt.)
> 3x - Ghost Knight (40pt.); Terminator armour; Storm bolter; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force sword;

@Troops [ 2 ]

10x - Grey Knight Terminator squad (450pt.)
> 1x - Terminator Justicar (40pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force halberd;
> 5x - Terminator (40pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force halberd (x2); Storm bolter;
> 2x - Terminator (65pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force halberd; Psycannon; Nemesis force sword;
> 2x - Terminator (40pt.); Terminator armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Nemesis force halberd; Storm bolter; Nemesis Daemon Hammer;

5x - Grey Knight Strike squad (110pt.)
> 1x - Justicar (20pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 3x - Grey Knight (20pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 1x - Grey Knight (30pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Psycannon;

@Fast attack [ 1 ]

10x - Grey Knight Interceptor squad (320pt.) Psybolt ammunition (x10);
> 1x - Justicar (26pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 7x - Grey Knight (26pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Storm bolter; Nemesis force sword;
> 2x - Grey Knight (46pt.); Power armour; Frag grenades; Krak grenades; Psyk-out grenades; Personal teleporter; Incinerator;

@Heavy support [ 2 ]

Nemesis Dreadknight (235pt.) Dreadknight Armour; Nemesis Doomfist (x2); Heavy incinerator; Personal teleporter;

Nemesis Dreadknight (235pt.) Dreadknight Armour; Nemesis Doomfist (x2); Heavy incinerator; Personal teleporter;

@Fortification [ 1 ]

Aegis Defense Line (100pt.) Gun emplacement with quad-gun;

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