Tyranids and Fortifications

[Lord Krungharr]

Can Tyranids take Fortifications? A Nid player at my local store was talking about making a bug-style Aegis Line.

For some reason I thought they could not take Fortifications, but perhaps I'm mistaken? I know they can't take Allies.

[daboarder]

Yes,

However, Nids can never use the guns, therefore they can never cause the guns on an aegis line or the top of a bastion to fire, and the weapons on the Fortress of redemption and the heavy bolters on the bastion may only ever auto-fire.

[Asuryan]

therefore they can never cause the guns on an aegis line or the top of a bastion to fire

Where is that exactly because some people say the guns auto fire and others say they don't.

[daboarder]

There is a distinct difference between

Gun emplacements: pg 105, have T, W & Sv profile, can only be manually fired, not always mounted on a building

And

Emplaced weapons: rules on Pg 96 Include Autofire and manual fire, These are weapon mounts on a building.


tyranids can fire neither of these manually as per the FAQ

[dwez]

Bastion, yes:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpMcPTumjxU/UeMl8diFueI/AAAAAAAAJrI/0eL5dpb2WCs/s1600/CAM00064.jpg

Defence line, yes:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9t2rlFmrY9s/UD8AJg2bG5I/AAAAAAAAEGU/Hsi1IHqi2aw/s320/03-P1060228.JPG

Quad gun, no:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z94ApitN1PE/UD8AVg_iblI/AAAAAAAAEHs/VNUkoLyajqU/s320/13-P1060238.JPG

Looking forward to a Vengeance Weapons Battery - Battle Cannons for nids!

Other advantages are nids are immune to Instinctive Behaviour in buildings, so great for leaving Biovores behind without Synapse as you charge up the field. You also get to bring your own LoS blocking terrain to hide your Tervigons and Flyrants behind worth the 75pts alone for the Bastion.

[Lord Krungharr]

Bastion, yes:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpMcPTumjxU/UeMl8diFueI/AAAAAAAAJrI/0eL5dpb2WCs/s1600/CAM00064.jpg

Defence line, yes:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9t2rlFmrY9s/UD8AJg2bG5I/AAAAAAAAEGU/Hsi1IHqi2aw/s320/03-P1060228.JPG

Quad gun, no:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z94ApitN1PE/UD8AVg_iblI/AAAAAAAAEHs/VNUkoLyajqU/s320/13-P1060238.JPG

Looking forward to a Vengeance Weapons Battery - Battle Cannons for nids!

Other advantages are nids are immune to Instinctive Behaviour in buildings, so great for leaving Biovores behind without Synapse as you charge up the field. You also get to bring your own LoS blocking terrain to hide your Tervigons and Flyrants behind worth the 75pts alone for the Bastion.


HA! It was exactly seeing those pictures that made me wonder about it :) Next you gotta make a Fortress of Redemption and Skyshield Landing Pad. (I just made a Chaos Skyshield Landing Pad, need some paint now).

[Slacker]

I've been wanting to make a Skyshield Landing Pad for my Tyranids for awhile now. Seems like a great place to slap some Hive Guard to me.

The FAQ denying 'Nids the use of gun emplacements and emplaced weapons has always annoyed me. I understand the reason, it is a fluff thing. But when someone goes through the trouble of making something that

A: Fits the fluff of their army.

B: Would be using rules for something available to every other army.

Something like this:


Quad gun, no:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z94ApitN1PE/UD8AVg_iblI/AAAAAAAAEHs/VNUkoLyajqU/s320/13-P1060238.JPG


I find it ridiculous that this exclusion is made and the above Quad gun is not "legal"

/rant

[dwez]

HA! It was exactly seeing those pictures that made me wonder about it :) Next you gotta make a Fortress of Redemption and Skyshield Landing Pad. (I just made a Chaos Skyshield Landing Pad, need some paint now).

The thought has crossed my mind :) Capillary Towers will be first though, I know they're not really usable as anything but some nid terrain is always handy...

[Nabterayl]

i find it ridiculous that this exclusion is made and the above quad gun is not "legal"
qft.