And this is what happens when I'm bored....

[Mr Mystery]

So.

We live in the world, and despite some good things, it's a pretty miserable place overall. People killing each other over whether Jeebus had Peas or Beans with his fish at the last supper, or perhaps because their skin is a very slightly different shade, and so forth and so on.

The global economy tanking has lead to a predictable rise in general right wing feelings, with people being a good bit less tolerant in general.

But it's of course not all bad. Kittens! Puppies! Sci-Fi! Fantasy! All these things (Except kittens, which become Cats) are pretty cool, and to me make life worth living.

However....what if time travel is real? And someone has been jumping back in time to avoid some catastrophe or other, and succeeded. But this is about as good as it's going to get? How depressing is that?!!?

Not really a negative nancy myself, but this thought wanted to be posted up!

[daboarder]

Eh I got upset at humanity when they basically decided space travel "was too expensive....

Sigh our best chance at advancing and they threw away the chance because they couldn't be bothered...

[Mr Mystery]

Unless the time traveller is doing it to save us from some extra terrestrial threat. Not realising that without the aspiration of space, we'd regress and devolve to the point of scripted reality television...because we just couldn't find natural morons of that calibre.

[Wolfshade]

Time travel exists...

[Mr Mystery]

I know.

Simon Cowell has used it to bump off the musical greats.

Hendrix. Bolan. Mercury. All at his foul hands so we'd buy his drivel. Apparently, it's easier than finding actual talent. The high trousers thing is from the future.

[Wildeybeast]

*Resists urge to rant about the impossibility of time travel*

Humanity is pretty dumb by and large, but there is always hope and that's what keeps me going. Mostly that comes from working with kids. Even the really nasty children, the ones you can map out there inevitable course their life will take, can sometimes surprise you, give you that brief glimpse of a decent human being hiding somewhere inside. Mostly, that gets ground out of them by the overwhelming weight of crapness in their life, but it reminds me that none of us are born as bad people.

[Wolfshade]

Any time you accelerate your time frame shifts compared with the stationary frame of reference. Simple experiments using atomic clocks doing an aeroplane trip to new york and back showing that they are no longer synched.

[daboarder]

yup time is just another dimension, it has both positive and negative directions.

[Mr Mystery]

*Resists urge to rant about the impossibility of time travel*


That's what Cowell wants you to think!

[eldargal]

Y'all need more <REDACTED>.

[Wolfshade]

Y'all need more jigawatts.

ftfy :)

[Mr Mystery]

And the Beegees.

Cowell's taking his time with them.....

Though oddly, the Rolling Stones seem immune to his attempts. The power of rock 'n' roll is strong!

[Wolfshade]

Rolling Stones, push, that hipster pop act

[Mr Mystery]

DEATH TO YOU IN THE FACE! Heretic!

[Wildeybeast]

Any time you accelerate your time frame shifts compared with the stationary frame of reference. Simple experiments using atomic clocks doing an aeroplane trip to new york and back showing that they are no longer synched.

I know the basics of Einstein's relativity theory. You can slow down time, yes. You cannot jump from one point of time to another, as classic sci-fi time travel imagines it. Whilst it is great plot device, it simply doesn't work. The Grandfather Paradox proves that travelling to the past is logically impossible and since the universe functions on basic logical laws, you cannot break those laws. You can technically travel to the future if you can find a way of travelling much faster than everyone else, but you would have no way of getting back again. See, now you made me rant.

[Wolfshade]

Exaclt so you can travel in time, only forwards.

I kinda like Huggins so you can only travel along your light cone :)

If time travel a la films were possible then the crucifixtion would be like woodstock.

[Wildeybeast]

It probably was at the time, given a) how much people love a good public execution and b) how many rebels Jesus was crucified with. They'd have had plenty of followers, to go alongisde those of Jesus.

[Build]

*Resists urge to rant about the impossibility of time travel*



Glad to see I'm not the only one.

Thermodynamics says no.

[Necron2.0]

Eh I got upset at humanity when they basically decided space travel "was too expensive....

Sigh our best chance at advancing and they threw away the chance because they couldn't be bothered...

Well, here's one that should piss you off even more. They cracked the secret to virtual immortality probably as much as ten years ago. They've been sitting on it all this time, because in a world with finite space and resources, people cannot be allowed to live longer than they already do - they live too long as it is. The only way to let that genie out of the bottle is to aggressively pursue space exploration and colonization. The only problem there is, with countless human settlements living free of the forced common bonds of Earth, nuclear annihilation becomes a viable option for settling disputes. Plus, if people are given the true freedom to expand ever outward, away from the political factions that have been foisted upon them ... well there goes your tax base, to say nothing of the political clout an enslaved populace confers on the power elite.

Bottom line, the state, your state, has sentenced you to death, and you don't even know it.
;)

[Houghten]

If you're talking about telomere extension, there are still... kinks in the process to work out.

[Mr Mystery]

To be honest, in the words of Queen.....who wants to live forever?

Immortality brings stagnation. It would likely be enjoyed by the rich, creating a nightmare of a social divide. After all, if there's one thing the rich seem interested in, it's staying rich, often at the cost of those less fortunate. All part of the human condition I'm afraid.

And even if I could purchase immortality, I don't think I'd be buying. Right now, I have approximately 34 years of work left before what is now looking to be a well deserved retirement. That means I'll be 67. Or most of the way to the grave. Immortality might mean I can hold onto my fleeting youth (been told I look around 25, which is pretty good going!) but I'd also have to work for basically ever.

No ta!

As for colonising space, I'd say being able to nick off and live with like minded people (for me my fellow lefty liberal atheists) would likely vastly reduce the stresses that lead to war. With a new planet, and the technology to safely exploit it's natural resources, there is again less reason for any kind of fisticuffs, let alone nuclear fisticuffs!

[DarkLink]

The Grandfather Paradox proves that travelling to the past is logically impossible and since the universe functions on basic logical laws, you cannot break those laws.

A random thought experiment doesn't disprove anything. That's like saying Schrodinger's Cat proves nukes work, or that Zeno's Paradox proves that motion is an illusion. The actual laws of physics disprove time travel, not the 'huh, that's a tricky question' that a paradox brings up.


Well, here's one that should piss you off even more. They cracked the secret to virtual immortality probably as much as ten years ago.

Umm... I think "secret to virtual immortality" might be a little bit of an overstatement. They might have figured out a way in which they could theoretically possible maybe eventually create a means of immortality. That's a long shot from actually having a literal fountain of youth.

[Houghten]

To be honest, in the words of Queen.....who wants to live forever?

Well, me, for starters.

[Deadlift]

Well, me, for starters.


I have something to say: it's better to burn out than to fade away!

[Denzark]

Thanks for that Deady, you know the Kurgan is all about the aerobic not the weights don't you???

[Mr Mystery]

What if...........

It's us that's been 'North Korea'd'...and not North Korea??

How would we know?

[Wildeybeast]

We'd all be starving?

[Mr Mystery]

But aren't we???

What if we've just got use to it?

Yeah, ok. Fair point on that one.

But how do we know North Korea are starving and that? Could be purposeful misinformation!

[Wildeybeast]

The North Koreans are deliberately feeding us misinformation that their people are starving? Why?
Plus there's the fact that all the defectors who make it across the border to S Korea are on average 6 inches shorter than people in S Korea due to the difference in standards of healthcare and general malnutrition.

[Mr Mystery]

But what if that's just what our Government wants us to think? We only have their word for it that they've come out of North Korea! Perhaps the West has a special 'short arse' farm or something????

AIEEEEE!

[Wildeybeast]

We are deliberately breeding short Korean people? It's ok Mystery, put your foil hat back and they won't be able to find out that you are on to them.

[Mr Mystery]

Not unless you tell them..............

[Necron2.0]

If you're talking about telomere extension, there are still... kinks in the process to work out.

That's what they WANT you to think ... just like they want you to think cold fusion doesn't work, the HAARP array is just for research, and there are no space-<*national socialists*> living on the dark side of the moon. ;)

[Wildeybeast]

As long as they stay there, I have no problems with them living on the moon. Saves us a job of colonising it, now we can focus on Mars.

[Mr Mystery]

Tried to find tinfoil hat comedy pic......

Computer refused to show.....

I am now reaching for my tinfoil hat as a result....

[Necron2.0]

They've traced your computer!! Get out!!! Get out now!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr Mystery]

*runs around flailing in a bizarre pattern*

[Wildeybeast]

Mystery is onto us, take him now!

[Mr Mystery]

*runs furtherer away*

[Build]

i have something to say: It's better to burn out than to fade away!

omg highlander!

[scadugenga]

omg highlander!

*From the dawn of time we came; moving silently down through the centuries, living many secret lives, struggling to reach the time of the Gathering; when the few who remain will battle to the last. No one has ever known we were among you... until now.

[Drunkencorgimaster]

I've been working on a plan to go see Live Aid live (in Philly) for about 4 years now. I don't think it has worked yet, but I can't be 100% sure. I do have one tiny, tiny bit of evidence that I may in fact have already made the journey to 1985 and back but since I don't remember it... I might have had my memory fried as a result of the time travel. The other weird thing is that this bit of evidence suggests I went to the Wembley show and not Veteran's Stadium as I intended/intend.