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Bigred
06-14-2013, 10:24 AM
SirBiscuit over at 3++ may be onto something... (http://www.3plusplus.net/2013/06/the-solitaire-and-a-standard-eldar-ally-template/)


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For those of you who didn't catch it in my last article, a Solitaire is an Eldar Autarch that has purchased the Mantle of the Laughing God, a Jetbike, and a Laser Lance. That means that (as long as he moved or is touching cover) he has a 2+ cover save that he gets to reroll, he has 5 WS6 S6 AP3 attacks on the charge, and he has Hit and Run. Of course, he gets all the goodness for that comes with having a jetbike as well. He does, however, lose his IC status, and he is stuck with terrible S3 AP- attacks outside of the charge. (I like him with the Banshee mask as well, for reasons I'll go into later.)

That adds up to a unit that has to be used as a scalpel, in support of a larger force. While he's not going to break armies on his own, he's an invaluable asset not only to many Eldar forces, but as an ally.

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Ally Template
Autarch (Jetbike, Mantle, Laser Lance, Banshee Mask)

9x Jetbikes, (3x Cannon)

9x Jetbikes, (3x Cannon)

That's an nice 506 points that will slot well into just about ANY build- it's so fast, and brings such nice benefits and firepower, that it will be a boon to just about any list. (If the Jetbike Squads are only 6xbike2xcannon, it's 384 points, 3x1x is 262, and still excellent. Of course, you can also save 5 points, if you don't like the Banshee Mask like I do.)

You can use this not only to harass the enemy, but to bring some extremely fast scoring and contesting units. It is frankly a little crazy good. It's also a solid foundation in which you can season to taste with other ally units: a Fire Prism, perhaps, or some Warp Spiders. Maybe go all-out on the bikes and bring some Shining Spears. Keep that speed mojo going.

There's lot more, but that's the short version.

G00dySmiley
06-14-2013, 10:40 AM
I have been running one in small games. I usually gie a fusion gun and banshee mask. not a bad way to spend 150 points. run around with a 2+ rerollable cover and pop stuff. always going first and hitting on 3's.

I add fusion gun for the occational back field tank popping, nothing liek the ability to pop a land raider as an ancilary benifit

DarkLink
06-14-2013, 12:00 PM
I still think that Falcon Wings and the Warp Generator is funnier. Why settle for only 36(?)" of movement, when you can move 50+"?

G00dySmiley
06-14-2013, 12:45 PM
I still think that Falcon Wings and the Warp Generator is funnier. Why settle for only 36(?)" of movement, when you can move 50+"?

T4, don't want to instagibbed by str 6

DarkLink
06-14-2013, 01:06 PM
Bah, but you move 6+2D6+48".

DrWobbles
06-14-2013, 01:17 PM
Can we call it the Solitarch? anybody?

No?

...i'm going to call it a Solitarch.

z3n1st
06-14-2013, 03:46 PM
Bah, but you move 6+2D6+48".

Actually you move

6+2d6+d6+2d6

DarkLink
06-14-2013, 04:56 PM
Falcon Wings let you run 48".

z3n1st
06-14-2013, 06:04 PM
Falcon Wings let you run 48".

Ahh I see now were we are crossing in the dark

its not Falcons Wings its Faolchu's Wing

I thought that you were referencing swooping hawk wings, which you couldn't wear in addition to the warpjump generator (at least to my knowledge)

Also if you use the warpjump you run the risk of never coming out of the warp, as you are the only random model in the unit...

Aramel
06-14-2013, 07:27 PM
Well you don't have to use it in the movement phase and still get the 2d6 assault move. I've tried a Solitaire Farseer on a jetbike, it is pretty cool to jump about casting guide/ prescience and whatever random 3rd power you get

z3n1st
06-14-2013, 07:55 PM
Anyone care to mock up a battle and report back to us of the following:

titted out Platoon mob from IG (command, two infantry, a heavy and a special +whatever) at the cost of the Autarch below

against

Auatarch on Jetbike with Mandiblasters, Reaper Launcher, Firesabre, Mantle, Phoenix Gem

AM-254
06-20-2013, 01:37 PM
titted out Platoon mob from IG (command, two infantry, a heavy and a special +whatever) at the cost of the Autarch below


I'm not sure I'm familiar with that loadout...

DarkLink
06-20-2013, 02:03 PM
its not Falcons Wings its Faolchu's Wing

Yeah, but that name's stupid.

Finnegan
06-21-2013, 06:15 AM
Yeah, but that name's stupid.
Show some respect to eldar culture and mythology...;]

DarkLink
06-21-2013, 01:25 PM
I just imagine the Autarch bending over like he was on a sprinters block, and taking off as he yelled "FAALLLCCCCCOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN WINGS!!!" and taking off like the Flash.

G00dySmiley
06-24-2013, 07:00 AM
Anyone care to mock up a battle and report back to us of the following:

titted out Platoon mob from IG (command, two infantry, a heavy and a special +whatever) at the cost of the Autarch below

against

Auatarch on Jetbike with Mandiblasters, Reaper Launcher, Firesabre, Mantle, Phoenix Gem

I would take the banshee mask in general over the mandiblaster. it isn't doign you much good even against guard as you will be challenged and tied up by anythign with a sergent or equivilant which most armies havein their units (we eldar are usually the only ones who pay extra for the privilage) so they sacrifice their character in most cases then you lose the 2 attacks (mandiblaster and hammer of wrath) then with the sword you skewer leader and then get boggerd down by the squad or killed. vs space marines you will kill some but hitting on 3's wounding on 4's means 2 hits, 1 wound... vs guard 2 hits almost almost 2 wounds then they attack back. the guard probbaly kill him, the marines if 5 at start not so much, when gem happens against the marines probably 2 left if a 5 man so probably not coming back. against the guard blob you will come back and be murdered the next turn but have take alot of guard with you

i just don't think pheonix gem is worth it, now the 2+ cover from mantle is nice as is the sword but he is your scaple not a hammer shoot with repaer launcher and attack already weakened units when down to a character and a guy or 2 and he will do quite well ... but never chage a full strength unit

Demonus
06-24-2013, 09:36 AM
I cant think of any reason why I would charge a single dude into a full guard blob, unless that model were Kharn...

G00dySmiley
06-24-2013, 09:47 AM
I cant think of any reason why I would charge a single dude into a full guard blob, unless that model were Kharn...

there are a few but very limited

I have done a single warboss on a bike w/ pk . once watched swarmlord eat a full guard blob, but yea other than somethign T6 high initiative i wouldn't even try. avatar always catches them when they run so i would do that anyday though they will last a few turns.

Eldar_Atog
06-24-2013, 11:02 AM
I had pretty good luck with a Solitaire this weekend. He had mantle, swooping hawk wings, fusion gun, flame sabre, and banshee mask. I had him deepstrike on turn 2 and he absorbed fire from a squad of long fangs and a unit of wolf guard with no wounds. On my next turn, he charged the unit of wolf guard and killed the sergant in termie armor with a challenge while taking no wounds. On turns 4 and 5, he mopped up the squad and prepared to fire the aegis defense line gun that he had just "freed" from the wolf guard. In the end. I only lost one wound and he cleared the defense line so my jet bikes could claim the objective inside.

Hal
06-25-2013, 05:01 PM
I was very impressed with the solitare autarch today (jetbike, fusion gun, banshee mask and shard of anaris).. He caused instant death on a CSM juggerlord and a disclord in the same game.
This guy really shines against CSM due to the "champion of chaos" rule.. They simply have to accept your challenge, and with 5 attacks on the charge and fleshbane they should statistically fail at least one save at 3+.. It was kinda risky but it won me the game :)

Belly
06-25-2013, 08:38 PM
I am contemplating fielding this guy at an upcoming tournament, and will proxy the model when I play this coming weekend.

My setup will be - Autarch, Jetbike, Fusion gun, Laserlance, Mantle, Scorpion Chainsword.

Does anyone else have some reviews of him? Should I change any of his equipment up?

Thanks

Asuryan
07-01-2013, 01:29 AM
What about a Solitaire Farseer? Set it up with the Shard of Anaris or firesabre, and a singing spear, and hope to get death mission. Its about 50ish more points than an Autarch with fusion, lance, and Banshee mask. the roles are pretty much the same fusion/spear, lance/shard/sabre, and mask/death mission, the only problem outside of the cost is that death mission is not guaranteed and even if you do get it, it might run out at one point killing your seer.

DarkLink
07-01-2013, 02:22 AM
"Hope to get Death Mission" is your first problem. Second problem, the Shard of Anaris is terrible on a Farseer. Even on an Autarch, with only rending you're getting pretty crappy damage output, though you do have decent odds of sneaking in an ID hit, but with a Farseer's limited number of attacks? No. Fire Saber runs a similar problem, it's more reliable damage but it's still not a great weapon.

Your Farseer's buffs and debuffs are too valuable to waste charging him into assault.

Asuryan
07-01-2013, 03:48 AM
i did say that death mission is not a guarantee, but if you do get it i think it would do better than a solitaire autuarch, and you can always have a second farseer to do buffs/debuffs. All my load out does is 1. possibly give you something with a better damage output than the autuarch, or 2. give you another mobile caster, for 50pts