A tribute to the best and greatest thread in the world: Off Topic

[Psychosplodge]

Not sure i'm believing it...when did we invade Brazil? or Japan?

That's what i thought, but apparently we've invaded 90% of countries if you include incursion and privateers...

[Psychosplodge]

Good news everyone!
The new dacia sandaro is not linked (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/) to increased murder!

[DrLove42]

America does not come out of that graph well at all!

[Wolfshade]

Brazil, is strange perhaps in attempts to colonise south america? Certainly as it is a portugues colony and the british and portugues alliance would make that a little strange.

Japan was occupied as part of the peace treaty and VJ stuff.

[eldargal]

I love you, Volition:
http://cdn3.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/247295/extras/GATVpack_v4_small.jpg
http://cdn3.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/247295/ss_dcbe77f78019d0eb363c9982ab79b5c927bc16af.1920x1 080.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

It's bit purple and shiny isn't it?

Damn ballers, Olive grove for life blood innit?

I'm getting regular text updates of what I'm missing in V by being at work....

[eldargal]

You're missing GTA, no particular loss.:p

[Wolfshade]

Good news everyone!
The new dacia sandaro is not linked (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/) to increased murder!

I disagree with the last graph. It seems to include United States, that is clearly an outlier and should be excluded from any regression.

[DrLove42]

How much money does anyone want to bet on her changing her mind and wanting it if they announce DLC with a significant playable female character :P

[eldargal]

How much money does anyone want to bet on her changing her mind and wanting it if they announce DLC with a significant playable female character :P
If they do that I might buy it, but I wasn't overly impressed with GTA the last time I played it (which may have been San Andreas). Not bad, just nothing remarkable. I prefer Saints Row, such a brilliant parody of GTA and video games in general.

[DrLove42]

I enjoy saints row, but feel it went too far the other way.

The super powers are just boring and break it a bit. I think 2 or 3 was the best...

[eldargal]

I love it, I didn't think the super powers broke anything except in the sense that they were supposed to as everything gets more over the top as you progress. also until you unlock stamina free super sprint cars are still best for long distance travel, which was an issue someone raised earlier. Plus the missions are hilarious, as are the romances:

http://youtu.be/IdVVqAmTax0

[DrLove42]

The player character in that video has ridiculous boobs

[eldargal]

Yep, sex appeal bar set to 100 I'm guessing. Subtle.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Yep, sex appeal bar set to 100 I'm guessing. Subtle.

Like any of us wouldn't set our sex appeal bar to 100 IRL if we could.......

[Wolfshade]

Like any of us wouldn't set our sex appeal bar to 100 IRL if we could.......

It is frustrating sometimes...

[Mr Mystery]

Some of us do.

Which is why I have to do things like I'm about to....

Replace my entire VHS Dr Who collection with the DVD versions. And when you have every story from Pertwee - McCoy, that's serial moolah!

But I reckon budget of £150 a month ought to clear it within 12 months...

[eldargal]

Well in this case it's basically just a breast size bar I think. Past 80 or so they just look ridiculous.

[Psychosplodge]

But can't you just get the last of the vhs players for £300?

Bout 36 should be enough to get a good handful

[Mr Mystery]

But can't you just get the last of the vhs players for £300?

Already got one. But the VHS tapes themselves aren't surviving :(

[Wolfshade]

I think he has a VHS player, just hook it up to pc and convert to divx

[Mr Mystery]

Don't know how! Plus, the quality on some of the tapes leaves a lot to be desired.

Has it's charm sure, but it's time to upgrade!

Though lord alone knows what I'm gonna do with all my VHS tapes. Over 400 you know, including all my others.

[Psychosplodge]

Charity shops don't take them anymore...

[Mr Mystery]

Indeed. And from what I remember, and a quick interwebular foray, preciserly none of the tape is recyclable at present.

And I know some of mine survived a house fire intact!

May just have to bin them.

But will off the Dr Who ones on Freecycle, once I've replaced them all.

[Psychosplodge]

you've got to upload your gentleman's special interest tapes to the internet, those seventeeth hand copies of who knows what might be unique!

[Mr Mystery]

Don't have any of those, thank you very much.

I stuck to bramble mags.

[Wolfshade]

Indeed. And from what I remember, and a quick interwebular foray, preciserly none of the tape is recyclable at present.

And I know some of mine survived a house fire intact!

May just have to bin them.

But will off the Dr Who ones on Freecycle, once I've replaced them all.

You are welcome: http://www.ems-europe.co.uk/services/domestic-tape-disc/

[Gotthammer]

SR IV is superior as it has Keith David as Vice President Keith David. Also Rowdy Roddy Piper as himself.

[Wolfshade]

SR IV is superior as it has Keith David as Vice President Keith David. Also Rowdy Roddy Piper as himself.

I've heard of one of those!

[Psychosplodge]

Don't have any of those, thank you very much.

I stuck to bramble mags.

I suppose by the time you were old enough the internet had replaced them?

But how did they get there ?
I blame magic.

[Mr Mystery]

It's the Jazz Fairies.

Everyone knows that Brambles are the underside of a Jazz Fairy's bed, hence why we find bramble mags there.

[Wolfshade]

I blame magic.

Was there not a FastShow sketch (or other comedy sketch show) that had the council as part of tidying up the park have them replacing the pron?

[Mr Mystery]

Dunno. But once upon a time, my friends and I may have planted our very own Bramble Bush. Got to invest in the youth of today.

[DrLove42]

Kids don't need porn bushes anymore....by time they're old enough to go out without parents they've probably seen more on the intenret already

Something else that is dead....the 10 minute freeview on the TV channels....

[Wolfshade]

Interesting from netflix http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24108673

[DrLove42]

Makes sense. See whats popular and get it.

But they still don't have Game of Thrones, despite it being the most pirated show in history

[Psychosplodge]

It's the Jazz Fairies.

Everyone knows that Brambles are the underside of a Jazz Fairy's bed, hence why we find bramble mags there.


Was there not a FastShow sketch (or other comedy sketch show) that had the council as part of tidying up the park have them replacing the pron?


I don't remember one, but two very reasonable explanations...

[Mr Mystery]

Makes sense. See whats popular and get it.

But they still don't have Game of Thrones, despite it being the most pirated show in history

Probably to do with the producers being Numpties. Create awesome show, wait a year for home media release, whine about piracy....profit?

[Wolfshade]

Makes sense. See whats popular and get it.

But they still don't have Game of Thrones, despite it being the most pirated show in history

Tesco already have the rights to it

[DrLove42]

Probably to do with the producers being Numpties. Create awesome show, wait a year for home media release, whine about piracy....profit?

Its always bugged me how long they leave between airing and DVD release....Season 3 finished...what 6 months ago? (look up on Wikipedia - 9th of June apparantly).

DVD release? February next year...

Part of me wonders if the massive gaps between things are their way of honoring how ****ing long he leaves between books :P

[Mr Mystery]

I dunno. But I do wish they'd speed things up release wise.

Dr Who puts out really quickly! (Fnarr fnarr!)

[Psychosplodge]

the slag

[Gotthammer]

Part of me wonders if the massive gaps between things are their way of honoring how ****ing long he leaves between books :P

Could be that they don't want people to be able to wait a short while and just buy the DVD rather than having to pay for a subscription and then buy the DVD later. Also got to put together all the extras and get them printed/marketed/shipped etc. Also probably comes out not long before season 4 starts to get the hype machine re-started.

[Wolfshade]

Part of me wonders if the massive gaps between things are their way of honoring how ****ing long he leaves between books :P
Well there is the concern that he is not writting quick enough. True Blood (which everyone should watch despite the main character being annoying) had similiar issues that the tv series was going quicker.

The other issue is that Martin seems to have no idea of how to bring this to a conclusion, new characters are introduced to bring the story along, instead of moving forwards we just have their history and how they fit in and very little forward momentum.

I am going for an outside bet that the series ends with bran waking up from his fall and it all being a dream...

[Mr Mystery]

Interesting....Lloyds selling off it's shares has netted a bit of a profit for the UK Tax Payer. Kind of.

When bailed out, they cost us 73.6p each, and were sold for 75p each. Net profit for Tax Payer £61,000,000. Though as this article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24124793) points out, it's not technically profit, based on speculative stuffs. Though hey, it's not a loss!

Rest of the article is worth a read too.

Though of course Mr Osborne is claiming it's all his doing and shows his genius. Yep. Apparently selling something for more than you bought it for is now genius. God I hate that man.

[DrLove42]

Well there is the concern that he is not writting quick enough. True Blood (which everyone should watch despite the main character being annoying) had similiar issues that the tv series was going quicker.

The other issue is that Martin seems to have no idea of how to bring this to a conclusion, new characters are introduced to bring the story along, instead of moving forwards we just have their history and how they fit in and very little forward momentum.

I am going for an outside bet that the series ends with bran waking up from his fall and it all being a dream...

The ending is already written. hes told the TV show writter how it ends in case something happens. He expects the TV show will actually get to the end before he does....


Interesting....Lloyds selling off it's shares has netted a bit of a profit for the UK Tax Payer. Kind of.

When bailed out, they cost us 73.6p each, and were sold for 75p each. Net profit for Tax Payer £61,000,000. Though as this article points out, it's not technically profit, based on speculative stuffs. Though hey, it's not a loss!

Rest of the article is worth a read too.

Though of course Mr Osborne is claiming it's all his doing and shows his genius. Yep. Apparently selling something for more than you bought it for is now genius. God I hate that man.

I generaly just hate the entire Tory Cabinet...all as useless, self serving and smarmy as the rest

[eldargal]

Daenerys marries Sansa, unites Westeros. The End.

[Gotthammer]

Other things wot needs to happen:

- Osha adopts Rikkon and Bran (<3 Natalie Tena)

- Brienne and Jaime need to do it already. On camera if Jaime still has the beard >_>

- Sir Friendzone of Hanging Around Daenerys needs to get a pair and make a move.

- Jon Snow: lose the Brad Pitt pout - it looks stupid on him and it looks stupid on you.

- Arya murders everyone else. Like, EVERYONE - predator style.

[Kirsten]

http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/16/87/fd2901e05abe782b49f446c9043254c5.jpg

yup, that has been me yesterday and today. can't even play it until thursday.


And now back to GTA V.....

Main thing that will make or break this for me....the Radio Stations.

San Andreas had really good ones, with decent rock music. GTA IV had what felt like 90,000,000 Hip Hop stations, and one Rock station which although it did have Sisters of Mercy (nice!), also had Phil Collins (boo!). This meant I did most of the missions in silence, and enjoyed the game a lot less.

But what of this one? Can't find a track listing online at the mo.

radio stations are really good, we had them playing last night in the store, I really enjoyed them.


We've sent troops to Mali, to train the soliders trained by france, so they know more than flag waving and running away...

That's Mali for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzA6bmnndoM


SR IV is superior as it has Keith David as Vice President Keith David. Also Rowdy Roddy Piper as himself.

I don't know who Rowdy Roddy Piper is. does he wrestle?

[eldargal]

GTA could never compete with the Saints Row IV Transformers the Movie (Actually A Film) tribute ending. It is the Greatest Thing Ever.

[Wildeybeast]

I don't know who Rowdy Roddy Piper is. does he wrestle?

Used to. I thought he was wrestling up in heaven now, but Wikipedia informs me it is just his career that his dead. Must have been some other wrestler from his era who died recently.

[Deadlift]

Used to. I thought he was wrestling up in heaven now, but Wikipedia informs me it is just his career that his dead. Must have been some other wrestler from his era who died recently.

There's plenty of them that have, Jake the Snake Roberts maybe ?

[Wildeybeast]

I'm sure there were r's in the name. Macho Man Randy Savage bought it in 2011, but I'm sure i heard something of the news in the last month or so about one of them. Google isn't yielding much, maybe it's just my imagination.

[Mr Mystery]

Bit morbid, but answers! (http://deadwrestlers.net/2010s.html)

[Deadlift]

Paul Bearer and Doink :)

[Wildeybeast]

I saw that, but it wasn't any of them that I have stuck in my head.

In other news, it begins (http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/man-stabbed-after-buying-gta-game-1). Roll out the ban campaign, Daily Mail. Something must be done!

[Wildeybeast]

I probably shouldn't laugh but dude has his wallet, mobile phone and copy of GTA nicked and police say the motive for the attack is unclear. :D The Met's finest hard at work there.

[Psychosplodge]

Other things wot needs to happen:

- Osha adopts Rikkon and Bran (<3 Natalie Tena)

- Brienne and Jaime need to do it already. On camera if Jaime still has the beard >_>

- Sir Friendzone of Hanging Around Daenerys needs to get a pair and make a move.

- Jon Snow: lose the Brad Pitt pout - it looks stupid on him and it looks stupid on you.

- Arya murders everyone else. Like, EVERYONE - predator style.

Ah, I see you read the books too?


I probably shouldn't laugh but dude has his wallet, mobile phone and copy of GTA nicked and police say the motive for the attack is unclear. :D The Met's finest hard at work there.

Clearly no motive there.

[Deadlift]

GTA could never compete with the Saints Row IV Transformers the Movie (Actually A Film) tribute ending. It is the Greatest Thing Ever.

The sales figures will probably prove otherwise I suspect. in your opinion maybe, but I feel your kind of biased due to the lack of female playable characters in GTA :p. I closed early tonight just so I could get home to install my copy. 3000MB to go :D

[Kyban]

I'm with EG, I just like Saints Row better. Though I thought SR3 had a stronger story than SR4, SR4 was full of hilarious references.

I've only played SR3 and 4 though and not much of any GTA, I don't think I'd like SR1 and 2 as much.

[eldargal]

The sales figures will probably prove otherwise I suspect. in your opinion maybe, but I feel your kind of biased due to the lack of female playable characters in GTA :p. I closed early tonight just so I could get home to install my copy. 3000MB to go :D
It's not just that, I've always found GTA a little dull personally. Saints Row just has a lot more style, wit and cleverness. The fact you can make a female character and do incredibly bad arse things is important but the style of game itself appeals to me more.

I agree that SR3 has a stronger story, the strength of SR4 is that it's basically a Matrix parody meets Mass Effect parody meets GTA parody. The story is disjointed because it takes place in a simulation and revolves around rescuing your friends then taking over the simulation to get at the creators of it. But it's so amusing and clever the disjointed story doesn't matter. Plus it has Vice President Keith David voiced by Keith David.

[DrLove42]

Can't help but feel Saints Row relies on it parody and comedy to get by, not its gameplay. Still a good game

I clocked negative time on my GTA last night. not only did I not get to play any, thanks to my wife planning things I was an unknowing, unwilling part of a conspiracy prevented someone else from playing any more than the first 5 minutes. So I'm on negative time. Just want to go home and play....

[Psychosplodge]

Well due to the amazon limiting purchases to one per person (which I found out after I'd ordered the SOs) I had to get the little brother to order mine, and he clicked the long shipping so I don't get mine till tomorrow :mad:

[Wolfshade]

I feel like I am missing out. Not enough to be bothered to do anything. Maybe pick it up next steam summer sale...or the one after...


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cutting_edge.png

Also: http://www.barkinganddagenhampost.co.uk/news/lilly_3_banned_from_learning_to_ride_bike_in_dagen ham_street_1_2356587

[Psychosplodge]

I feel like I am missing out. Not enough to be bothered to do anything. Maybe pick it up next steam summer sale...or the one after...


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cutting_edge.png


I used to do that to a lesser extent, but I had to break it for GTA V as the ps3 isn't forced to be set up then, and well Rome II is Rome II...

[DrLove42]

BREAKING NEWS

The Greatest thing ever has happened

George Takei has his own youtube channel now

http://www.youtube.com/user/TakeisTake?feature=watch

[Wolfshade]

System is down, again.
Time for bike pr0n

http://road.cc/sites/default/files/imagecache/lightbox-large/images/Eurobike%202013%20-%20Time%20trial%20and%20triathlon%20bikes/Scott%20Plasma.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

Umm...erm....right. Bike pr0n...

Cor! Phwoar! I'd sniff her saddle! Look at the handlebars on that!

(Am I doing it right?)

[Psychosplodge]

I wouldn't mind getting my leg over that...

[Wolfshade]

It is not (UCI) legal but I'd ride it.
Mystery you can sniff my saddle whenever you like.

[DrLove42]

Can I go home yet? Its so cold i'm finding it hard to type

[Mr Mystery]

I want a fried egg and black pudding roll, with HP sauce.

Because nothing, and I mean nothing, beats a blood and foetus butty in the morning. Spesh with HP.

[Wolfshade]

wimp,

[DrLove42]

The thermometer on the wall in the corrridor reads 6 degrees. And we've not got any heating

[Wolfshade]

The thermometer on the wall in the corrridor reads 6 degrees. And we've not got any heating

Raise it as a health and safety issue: http://www.hse.gov.uk/temperature/faq.htm

[Mr Mystery]

Turn it upside down. PRESTO! It's now 9 degrees, 50% warmer.

This nugget of usefulness brought to you by Mystery Industries. Mystery Industries. What could possibly go wrong?

[Psychosplodge]

The thermometer on the wall in the corrridor reads 6 degrees. And we've not got any heating

I thought you'd essentially finished last week?

[DrLove42]

Last experiemnts hopefully this afternoon

Then a few days more of writing. Don't finish till next Friday officially.

[Wolfshade]

Build a rudimentary fire using stools and benches

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

4-close for Dale today. :/

[Mr Mystery]

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout TDA?

[Wolfshade]

work scheduel

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Yeah.

[Mr Mystery]

OIC.

I thought it was some kind of hip street talk.

[eldargal]

I thought he was saying the bank had foreclosed on him. Didn't even know he had a mortgage.:rolleyes:

[DrLove42]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7797192192/h3D645561/

[eldargal]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4862&d=1379496260

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I thought he was saying the bank had foreclosed on him. Didn't even know he had a mortgage.:rolleyes:

21 with a mortgage, girl be trippin'.

[Gotthammer]

Beat me to it EG :p

[Wolfshade]

21 with a mortgage, girl be trippin'.

Why? I was. Still do. Want a bigger one, for a bigger house, in a nicer area, and a hobby cave.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Hello? I work at Wetherspoons?

[DrLove42]

I'll have a PC, only if I can have it as this set up

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7802550016/h03C66062/

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

So long as I can have slidey screens, yah.
Not under my bed though...

[Kirsten]

Well due to the amazon limiting purchases to one per person (which I found out after I'd ordered the SOs) I had to get the little brother to order mine, and he clicked the long shipping so I don't get mine till tomorrow :mad:

I wont be getting it until tomorrow either. and I had to do the midnight launch helping 400 people get theirs. and another 700 people yesterday.

[Psychosplodge]

Is that everyone who owns a ps3 on the IoM?
Why didn't you get it at launch then?

[Wolfshade]

Hello? I work at Wetherspoons?
You have a job with regular hours with a regular wage, it is not unfeasible to have a mortgag. It might be a small one but that that would be based on annual income and not because you work for wetherspoons.


I'll have a PC, only if I can have it as this set up

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7802550016/h03C66062/
That is cool. I demand this for work.

[DrLove42]

I was quite happy to see a kid or two get turned down for not having ID when i was in queue for mine. Least someone does the job right


You have a job with regular hours with a regular wage, it is not unfeasible to have a mortgag. It might be a small one but that that would be based on annual income and not because you work for wetherspoons.

.

Also you live in the North where **** be cheap

[Psychosplodge]

So you can stop having to do that pesky cycling in every morning?

[Kirsten]

Is that everyone who owns a ps3 on the IoM?
Why didn't you get it at launch then?

Not everyone no, and there were Xbox buyers as well. I can't afford it until tomorrow.

[Kirsten]

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd380/KirstenIGMB/midnight_zps6b29534d.jpg

[DrLove42]

My favourite mindight launch I worked was the PS3.

Two slightly drunk guys got int he queue for an hour and were disgusted with it cos it cost £425 when they got the front of the queue. Turns out they thought they were queueing for some new nightclub....

Also this;

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/17/fox-news-hasselbeck-navy-yard-shooting-shows-need-for-video-game-registry-not-gun-control/

Fox news advocates Video Game Registry and Control, not Gun Registry.

My favourite part must be the top comment from the public


An argument could be made that there's been a significant increase in the number of mass shootings since the launch of the Fox News Channel. Is there a link between Fox News and gun violence? Perhaps instead of monitoring video game players, we should monitor Fox News viewers

[Psychosplodge]

Why are the bronies always drawn fat?

[Wolfshade]

So you can stop having to do that pesky cycling in every morning?

I'd rather cycle then be stuck in these slow moving metal boxes that pedestrians over take..

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I was quite happy to see a kid or two get turned down for not having ID when i was in queue for mine. Least someone does the job right



Also you live in the North where **** be cheap

Not cheap at all, I live in Shrewsbury which has class.

[Psychosplodge]

I'd rather cycle then be stuck in these slow moving metal boxes that pedestrians over take..

Yeah I don't see any of that.

[DrLove42]

Well my new flat and work means I can walk to the site in less than 5 minutes, so i can leave th car at home now if I want

[Wolfshade]

Yeah I don't see any of that.
Obviously the metal boxes are interferring with your perception, maybe you need a +1 hat?

Well my new flat and work means I can walk to the site in less than 5 minutes, so i can leave th car at home now if I want
You could halve that by bike...

[DrLove42]

Obviously the metal boxes are interferring with your perception, maybe you need a +1 hat?

You could halve that by bike...

Third it probably seeing as its down hill. But then factor in additional time in unlocking and locking up....plus the uphill ride home

[Mr Mystery]

Man, I hate hate hate being broke :(

It seriously sucks donkey.

Getting paid on Monday, and will have spent over £1100 the second it touches my account, including rent :(

Still, nearly cleared all my bills.....getting bill bombed is horrible :(

Roll on the new year, when I should just about have my financial feet clear.

[Psychosplodge]

are you at gd this year mystery?

[Mr Mystery]

Very much not I'm afraid.

Going to have to be very, very good in October. On the bright side, it's not a five week pay month, so little sparkles of joy!

And next month, I should be around £400 better off thanks to certain bills having been settled. Wee bit of breathing room there! Maybe enough to treat myself for being ever so good recently with the next HH book.

[Psychosplodge]

Well being good certainly deserves reward...

[DrLove42]

I'm looking forward to my pay check going from 900 a month to 1800 a month post tax from next month on.

Just need to get the wife a job once we've moved and we should be very healthy for a while

[Mr Mystery]

Yup.

Just need to not use my overdraft, at all, this month and it's looking good.

Also, nip into my local bank branch on Friday (day off!) and discuss these charges they're applying. £92 this month! Now fair enough, I am triggering them, and they aren't unfair in the eyes of the law, but they aren't helping. Will discuss the possibility of having them postponed for a couple of months, or maybe wiped (banks are pretty flexible when you're honest with them.)

These bills down, it's time to tackle the duel threat of overdue council tax (eep) and a very, very old unpaid Orange Mobile Phone bill, which has been playing merry havoc on my credit rating, which I'm also trying to fix.

[DrLove42]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24141835

jeez....

[Mr Mystery]

Not really sure it's Facebook's issue...

They're paid to put the ads up. And I'm fairly sure advertisers don't make a habit of using the images of deceased people.

It's a horrible thing, but come on....what could Facebook reliably do about that?

[DrLove42]

Oh yeah...its not FB fault.

I have to question a company that just nicks internet pictures for their ads without seeking permission though

[Mr Mystery]

Yep.

I'm halfway tempted to change my relationship status on FB to being in one, just to stop the sodding dating adverts. Sick of them!

[eldargal]

Yep, it's really horrible but it was the advertiser who should be blamed. At least Facebook seemed to respond fairly rapidly.

[Wolfshade]

As an aside, given that dead people have been used to advertise things for a very long time, what is up with this name Rehtaeh, is this pronouced as in Rita? If so what is with all the bonus letters?

[Mr Mystery]

Dunno. But to me it sounds like the word the Aliens use when greeting the hero in 'The Last Starfighter', a film made of solid win.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Maybe a parent was a fan.
Used to know a kid who was Conan Akria Ulysses (I forget his surname). He used to go to the southampton store, nice lad.

[Mr Mystery]

Weirdos!

But yeah.

Cunning plan to not use overdraft this month! Once food shop is done on Monday, give the debit card to my friend, so I can't access it until next payday. Yay!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Birthday in 5 days. >.<

[Mr Mystery]

Yay!

Ice Cream and Jelly all round, or I'll break your legs.

[Wolfshade]

Yay!

Ice Cream and Jelly all round, or I'll break your legs.+1

Thanks Tizzy

[Mr Mystery]

Seems the work computer isn't at all keen on the Asda website....

Trying to assemble an order for Monday, but its frozen up!

BAD PC! BAD!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

+1

Thanks Tizzy

Come to Birmingham then?

[Psychosplodge]

Yay!

Ice Cream and Jelly all round, or I'll break your legs.



Sounds like a plan

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Anyone in Birmingham on 23rd of September can have Ice Cream and Jelly

[Wolfshade]

Whereabouts?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

City Centre

[Wolfshade]

City Centre

What sort of time?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Most of the day

[Mr Mystery]

Anyone in Birmingham on 23rd of September can have Ice Cream and Jelly

I demand at least a photo of Ice Cream and Jelly.

[Psychosplodge]

£256M in development and this (http://i41.tinypic.com/seywpc.jpg) is the result

[Wolfshade]

What is this?

[Psychosplodge]

GTA V apparently :D

[Wolfshade]

Oh, ok.

Whole new meaning to dogging.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Oh well, either a new high in realism or a new low in gaming depending on your POV.
Roll on the inevitable animal husbandry mod for skyrim inspired by this.

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah.

Apparently they've really thought of everything...

[Kaptain Badrukk]

50p someone out there right now is trying to mate their dog with a human character.
50p on that someone being very lonely IRl.
No, I don't yet own the game, and no it's not me.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It's not even a female dog.
That's male dog on dog action right there.

[Psychosplodge]

But can you run them over?

[Mr Mystery]

Probably.

There's likely an achievement in it as well.

Getting GTA V on Monday.

[Wolfshade]

Unless you are in germany where they are zombies without blood.

[Mr Mystery]

Whoa (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24146745)

Somehow, that story really got me. No idea why!

[DrLove42]

I follow a thing on Twitter called Abandoned that just posts pics of abandone buildings and objects. It swings between being artistic and creepy most the time. But its very cool.

Sad thing is anyone found in them will not likely have anyone who remembered them alive anymore...teenagers in the 60's, puts any similar aged people into their 70's now. The 50's one even more so

Also you know you re country has a problem when people have to institute a "No Shirt, no shoes or gun, no service" policy http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24142085

[Psychosplodge]

does it not have a tumblr? I've seen similar odd posts there and they're brilliant.

[Mr Mystery]

HURRAH (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24142901)

About time too. Free School Meals occured when I was a kid, and stopped around the age of 7.

Balanced meal, and none of this ridiculously small price per child, thank you. Proper food, by proper cooks. Like your Granny makes.

[Psychosplodge]

As long as they don't remove the option to have packing up.
I'd have starved if I was forced to have a school dinner

[DrLove42]

Given my long prevailing memory of school dinners was the smell from the kitchen and how it used to make me feel sick I can't say I care.

As long as parents at home pack a sensbile packed lunch (fruit, veg and sandwiches, not crisps and pizza) its fine.

But how long until school cut corners, sell to the lwoest bidder and quality and healthyness just plummets again

[Wolfshade]

The all pervasive nanny state marches on.

Parents you are unable to give your children balanced meals/afford school meals, don't worry you're not the problem, we shall provide meals for gratis.

Why not go the whole hog and have the state look after all children from birth till they have completed a degree/apprenticeship

[Mr Mystery]

Dude. Harsh. And unfair. It's far from Nanny state as well.

As I said in my post, school meals were free when I was a nipper, then that stopped. Obesity shot up as well. Likely not that linked, but there is a link there.

It's not the kid's fault if their parents are morons now is it? For many kids, the school meal is the only decent food they'll get all week.

[Psychosplodge]

There's nothing wrong with a bag of crisp with your lunch. As long as you don't go home and eat another three or four. It's just becoming ridiculous.

[Wolfshade]

Dude. Harsh. And unfair. It's far from Nanny state as well.

As I said in my post, school meals were free when I was a nipper, then that stopped. Obesity shot up as well. Likely not that linked, but there is a link there.

It's not the kid's fault if their parents are morons now is it? For many kids, the school meal is the only decent food they'll get all week.

The issue is the parents. Having children should be a privilege and not a right. If you are unable to care and look after them you should not have them. It is that simple. I would not expect the state to support me if I had any other thing that I could not afford. So why are children so special. It is not like we have an under population and a chronic shortage of labour.

[eldargal]

The all pervasive nanny state marches on.

Parents you are unable to give your children balanced meals/afford school meals, don't worry you're not the problem, we shall provide meals for gratis.

Why not go the whole hog and have the state look after all children from birth till they have completed a degree/apprenticeship
Excellent idea given the standard of parenting.:p But really we have a long history of providing school dinners in this country and it should continue. If only to make kids appreciate proper food later on.

[Psychosplodge]

The issue is the parents. Having children should be a privilege and not a right. If you are unable to care and look after them you should not have them. It is that simple. I would not expect the state to support me if I had any other thing that I could not afford. So why are children so special. It is not like we have an under population and a chronic shortage of labour.

+1

The warehouse tart* at our place is always on about how her tax credits aren't enough, and the csa aren't taking enough of her exs wage etc.
She gets very offended if you point out she wouldn't have this problem if she'd been more careful.


*She is employed primarily because one of the directors wants to **** her, as she has yet to demonstrate competence in an area of any task.

[Mr Mystery]

I'm with you against the parents, but until someone can come up with an ethical version of mass sterilisation, let's not punish the kids yeah?

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Some of you guys are quite amazingly right wing sometimes. I hope you know that.

I mean, honestly, the point at which you start complaining about *feeding children*, guys...

[scadugenga]

So I'm November I'll be attending a conference in San Diego. First time in Cali, which should be nice.

What's starting to make me chuckle are the social invites coming in from various vendors. The latest is a limo chauffeured side to s private event on the USS Mississippi.

Should be fun.

[Wolfshade]

Some of you guys are quite amazingly right wing sometimes. I hope you know that.
You say it like it is a bad thing...

I do not have an issue with feeding children. However, it should be the responsibility of the parent and not the state.
I am not entirely convinced that I would want any child of mine to be fed by the person who successfully gets the lowest bid of a government contract. Where the price of ethical farming is irrelevant to maximising profit. I am able to choose what what food I like, and to choose where to source it from. I can put together a balanced menu across the day ensuring that I get my five-a-day enough calories.

I can see the point and reason for free meals for those from poor economic back grounds, but do children of parents with a combined income of £50k+ need this? Probably not, especially given that the government has already removed benefits for those cases.

[Kirsten]

:eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLxmFgCxt8

[Wolfshade]

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[eldargal]

Cats are awesome.

[Psychosplodge]

I mean, honestly, the point at which you start complaining about *feeding children*, guys...

But I dislike children, especially other peoples children.


:eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLxmFgCxt8

See when I see a cat not terrified of hoovers it amazes me. also that's adawbs.

Also Breaking News!

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nbre9y.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

This (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150) explains the last decade...

[Wolfshade]

This (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24160150) explains the last decade...

It is when your first reaction to something not working is to take it out, blow on it, and replace it...

[Psychosplodge]

Well that always used to work...

[eldargal]

It is when your first reaction to something not working is to take it out, blow on it, and replace it...
Hur.;)

[Wolfshade]

Hur.;)

Oh dear
OR
I've never had the problem myself
OR
I can't reach maybe you could give me a hand?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Why not go the whole hog and have the state look after all children from birth till they have completed a degree/apprenticeship

Been reading Republic have we? You Platovian ho you.
TBH I don't see an issue with the Platovian model of child rearing, if no-one has parents and no-one knows who their children were it immediately eliminates privilege in favor of merit.
Also on a sidenote that model rated women and men on equal footings in all things.

[eldargal]

Creates a society of kids with detachment disorders though.

[Mr Mystery]

Meh.

I don't know what the solution is, but I know the right wing rhetoric of 'blame your neighbour, fear your neighbout, hate your neighbour' is far from the way forward.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Creates a society of kids with detachment disorders though.
It's not a disorder if everyone has it. It's the norm.
And the point in Plato's Republic was that everyone was responsible for raising the kids, so there was a small attachment to everybody.
Well that's a horrifically stymied and cropped version anyway.

[Wolfshade]

I've not read the Republic for years and I am ashamed to say I don't even recal that being covered :(

Also if the young people are detachmed from family units you can surplant that with a attachment to the state and the ideals and goals of the society rather than the individual.

[Psychosplodge]

Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles?

[Wolfshade]

Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles?

"Interestingly" the tune for that song is called Austria...

[Psychosplodge]

Well the fuhrer was an Austrian too, and they do speak German... coincidence?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

I've not read the Republic for years and I am ashamed to say I don't even recal that being covered :(

Also if the young people are detachmed from family units you can surplant that with a attachment to the state and the ideals and goals of the society rather than the individual.

Child rearing is fairly early on, it also talks a lot during that point about selecting children for their roles in later life based on aptitude. Actually Krypton is very Platovian now I think about it, I wonder if that's intentional.


Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles?
Yes, it is what the concept behind the youth in fact.
Doesn't mean it can't be used for good as well as evil.
Like fire....................... or coconuts.

[Wolfshade]

Perhaps it is a conspiracy, perhaps he spoke Austrian and German is just a dialect of Austrian?

We currently have people who grow up with attachments to other groupings, like their gang for instance and that is not a good thing.

So why not take that belonging and re-direct it.

After all the scouts and boys/girls brigade are not entirely sinister...

[Wolfshade]

Like fire....................... or coconuts.

I cannot concieve of a possibility whereby coconuts are used for good.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

I cannot concieve of a possibility whereby coconuts are used for good.

Depends if they're carried by a swallow.

[Wolfshade]

Depends if they're carried by a swallow.

An unladden swallow in a vaccum?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

An unladden swallow in a vaccum?

African or European?

[Psychosplodge]

After all the scouts and boys/girls brigade are not entirely sinister...

Really?
Weren't they set up to provide fit young men to oppress african natives?

[eldargal]

It's not a disorder if everyone has it. It's the norm.
And the point in Plato's Republic was that everyone was responsible for raising the kids, so there was a small attachment to everybody.
Well that's a horrifically stymied and cropped version anyway.

Of course it's a disorder. You're talking about creating a generation of sociopaths with attachment difficulties and a lack of empathy

[Mr Mystery]

Changing it up a bit....

Wayne Rooney's headband.

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HG.277058559115&w=227&h=134&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7

Lobot's headgear
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4599589002937841&w=106&h=142&c=7&rs=1&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.archives-alliance.com%2flobot-article-353.html&pid=1.7

Have Man U attempted to raise Rooney up to human level intellect at long last? Or is it sinister mind control to keep him in his swing tyre, and not move to another club?

[Wolfshade]

Really?
Weren't they set up to provide fit young men to oppress african natives?
You say that like it is a bad thing, where else are we going to get mineral wealth from?


Of course it's a disorder. You're talking about creating a generation of sociopaths with attachment difficulties and a lack of empathy
Being a sociopath isn't necessary a bad thing.

[Mr Mystery]

Of course it's a disorder. You're talking about creating a generation of sociopaths with attachment difficulties and a lack of empathy

Which is different from the current crop of self centred, mindless little vacuoids how? :p

[eldargal]

Which is different from the current crop of self centred, mindless little vacuoids how? :p
Well instead of selfish and vacuous they would be selfish and completely devoid of human decency and compassion.



Being a sociopath isn't necessary a bad thing.
Yes it is. If you think young people are selfish now with sociopaths it is much worse. You'd basically have a country of Dark Eldar without the technology.

[Psychosplodge]

You say that like it is a bad thing, where else are we going to get mineral wealth from?
.

Well the hand wringing liberal Empire apologists that run the country now kind of frown on it...


Well instead of selfish and vacuous they would be selfish and completely devoid of human decency and compassion.

Yes it is. If you think young people are selfish now with sociopaths it is much worse. You'd basically have a country of Dark Eldar without the technology.

With paramilitary training...

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Of course it's a disorder. You're talking about creating a generation of sociopaths with attachment difficulties and a lack of empathy

But those situations are only a dysfunctional in a society where the are not the norm. Disorders are deviations from the accepted norms which create difficulties functioning in society. If society maintains that norm then it is not a disorder. For example a person who is deeply uncomfortable maintaining eye contact in social situations has a disorder by the standards of Anglo-European society, but is considered polite in traditional Hmong society where eye contact is seen as threatening or challenging behavior.
And they'll have a large and varied social group with whom they form and develop strong bond in the form of their peers, they're not going to be socially isolated or reared by people who dislike them, they're going to be socially integrated and reared by the collective who will show an appropriate level of affection.
Or beat them with sticks.
Whatever works.

[Mr Mystery]

Well instead of selfish and vacuous they would be selfish and completely devoid of human decency and compassion.

Yes it is. If you think young people are selfish now with sociopaths it is much worse. You'd basically have a country of Dark Eldar without the technology.

They are sociopaths. They are concerned solely with themselves, and everyone else is less than furniture.

[eldargal]

We aren't talking about a social construction though we are talking about physiology. Children who are unloved as children, particularly in the first couple of years have brain that develop differently.


They are sociopaths. They are concerned solely with themselves, and everyone else is less than furniture.
Some of them will be, most of them are just selfish which isn't the same. Even the selfish ones will not necessarily want to harm someone else.

[Mr Mystery]

Sociopaths don't want to harm people either....they just don't understand emotions in the way others do, which leads to inappropriate behaviours.

I think.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

We aren't talking about a social construction though we are talking about physiology. Children who are unloved as children, particularly in the first couple of years have brain that develop differently.

Stout (2005) sums up the research on sociopathic development, explaining that as much as 50% percent of the cause of sociopathy can be attributed to heritability, while the remaining percentage is a confusing and not-yet-understood mixture of environmental factors. (Notably, a history of childhood abuse among sociopaths is not always present.) Similarly, Ferguson (2010) conducted a meta-analysis and found that 56% of the variance in Antisocial Personality Disorder, the formal disorder of sociopathy, can be explained through genetic influences.

Interestingly the more the society concentrates on the rights of the individual and the concept of "success = privilege or wealth" the higher the trend of sociopathic behavior, whereas societies where the individual is subservient to the collective have lower prevailences. (I don't have a citation for this one, I just remember it from somewhere)

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Sociopaths don't want to harm people either....they just don't understand emotions in the way others do, which leads to inappropriate behaviours.

I think.

That's psychopaths (and also higher function autistic and aspergers[spelled wrong] sufferers).
The sociopath is manipulative, and often driven by rage to harm. It's sociopaths that torture animals etc, not psychopaths.
Psychopaths CAN also be dangerous, but their prevalence towards harming others is lower.

[eldargal]

Stout (2005) sums up the research on sociopathic development, explaining that as much as 50% percent of the cause of sociopathy can be attributed to heritability, while the remaining percentage is a confusing and not-yet-understood mixture of environmental factors. (Notably, a history of childhood abuse among sociopaths is not always present.) Similarly, Ferguson (2010) conducted a meta-analysis and found that 56% of the variance in Antisocial Personality Disorder, the formal disorder of sociopathy, can be explained through genetic influences.

Interestingly the more the society concentrates on the rights of the individual and the concept of "success = privilege or wealth" the higher the trend of sociopathic behavior, whereas societies where the individual is subservient to the collective have lower prevailences. (I don't have a citation for this one, I just remember it from somewhere)
It's not just sociopathic behaviour though, can't remember everything the studies found but children raised without a loving parents had much higher risk of personality disorders and all kinds of other psychological nastiness. I'm simplifying it by boiling it down to 'it would create sociopaths', but I don't think there is much doubt it would create a generation of truly ****ed up people with severely impaired abilities to empathise and work with others.

Not to mention there is no way the state is competent enough to manage it.:p

[Psychosplodge]

Anyone seen Soldier?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Anyone seen Soldier?

Yeah, badass!

[Wolfshade]

Sociopaths are often very sucessful people in their field and will appear normal to the outside world.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Same with psychopaths.
They learn to mimic and adapt, or to hide their mal-adjusted behaviors.

As a side-note to Eldargal's comments I'm looking at a lot of studies that say that all children need is emotional responsiveness and a loving environment, containing both genders. The evidence that says that this HAS to be in the form of parents seems to be coming from studies and publications that have spurious scientific objectiveness at best.
So provided that children are raised with love and care by a representative gender spread of the collective I see no reason why they should not grow up well adjusted.
Had I the budget and enough people I'd give this experiment a try.

[eldargal]

Well you'd basically be providing surrogate parents, and to maintain the standard of care required would be almost impossible and horrendously expensive. If it weren't orphanages would be great places.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

I'm not suggesting surrogate parents, but since everyone is responsible for the raising of children in the platovian model there should always be an adequate level of care mandated and maintained by the collective.
TBH it'd probably be preferable to the horrific breeder clans you get in england anyway, with half a dozen or more unsupervised kids ignored by their deadbeat parents.

[eldargal]

But when everyone is responsible for something no one is, and things will be neglected. See Soviet Agriculture.:p

[Wolfshade]

It only fails if you have the wrong person in charge. Obviously the minister for geeks would need to look after these peons.

[Rissan4ever]

Madame Minister Eldargal, how do you propose to handle this situation?

[eldargal]

Kick people until something gets done!:p

[Wolfshade]

Probably with a big stick

[Mr Mystery]

You can't kick with a stick, NooB!

Madame Dr Minister Eldargal....

What of Hipsters. Do they fall under your jurisfemineparttion? (see, I made the word feminist. I think)

[Wolfshade]

You can't kick with a stick, NooB!

Madame Dr Minister Eldargal....

What of Hipsters. Do they fall under your jurisfemineparttion? (see, I made the word feminist. I think)

My comment was made before it was seen.

[Rissan4ever]

I just noticed Eldargal's new icon is Powergirl. How slow am I?

[eldargal]

I think it suits me.:)

Not sure if hipsters would fall under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Geeks or not. I'd be predisposed to be lenient, they may be annoying but they aren't harmful.

[Rissan4ever]

Though they are certainly geeks, even if they're too cool to admit it.

[Mr Mystery]

Dancing hips now installed, ready for Nottingham on Saturday.

Oh and I haven't made a start on those Daemons.....tonight, I shall be busy!

[Kirsten]

GTAV is ok, not amazing so far. very inconsistent, the story they want to tell so far does not work with the gameplay at all.

[Deadlift]

GTAV is ok, not amazing so far. very inconsistent, the story they want to tell so far does not work with the gameplay at all.

Well I'm loving it :p and Chop is brilliant.

[Rissan4ever]

You play GTA for the story? I play it so I can run people over, get chased by the cops, and blow stuff up.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Pretty much.

I love driving. :D

[Rissan4ever]

Yeah. I play through enough missions to open up the whole map and get the house I want. Then it's all about the mayhem!

[Kirsten]

You play GTA for the story? I play it so I can run people over, get chased by the cops, and blow stuff up.

I find that sort of thing fairly tedious. Games like Just Cause 2 do it much better, running round blowing stuff up has a purpose and rewards you. unstructured chaos is just a waste of effort. plus random destruction makes no sense for either Michael or Franklin. Rockstar went on and on about the story and how important it was, including the previously discussed reason why they supposedly couldn't have a female character. and yet the characters they do have just don't work with the gameplay.

[Rissan4ever]

They said they "couldn't" have a female character? It would be impossible? That's bull. That's like Stan Lee saying a female Marvel superhero movie is "unnecessary." Schmucks.

Oh, well. Just another reason for me to not get a PS3.

[Kirsten]

they said there couldn't be a female playable character because it wouldn't fit the story they created of gangs and retired bank robbers etc. total nonsense, especially now that I have played about three hours of it.

[Mr Mystery]

Abandoned Daemon plan. Can't be arsed.

1,000 points of Necrons now selected!

[Deadlift]

Each to their own I guess, me I'm really enjoying GTA V and judging by the reviews so are many others.
So much to see and do, the sandbox is truly massive. It's easily bigger than sky rim and the scenery is amazing. The story is actually really good, I love the connections between the 3 very different characters and how their back story's link them together. The side missions are hugely varied and your able to tackle them in a variety of ways. Today I took a cable car to the top of the huge mountain and rode my bike down from the top using the many varied roads. Ended up then racing some guys in dune buggies before heading back to Michael's home. Saved some guy from being blown up by gas leak on the way, and used my in game mobile to make some money on the stock market. Then bought myself a new set of clothes and infiltrated the games version of Facebook headquarters. Won't spoil the rest but this game is fantastic. So much variation and freedom to choose what you want to do, play tennis, round of golf or dive for treasure. No game comes close to GTAV in terms of scale or choice.

[eldargal]

I find that sort of thing fairly tedious. Games like Just Cause 2 do it much better, running round blowing stuff up has a purpose and rewards you. unstructured chaos is just a waste of effort. plus random destruction makes no sense for either Michael or Franklin. Rockstar went on and on about the story and how important it was, including the previously discussed reason why they supposedly couldn't have a female character. and yet the characters they do have just don't work with the gameplay.
They just find any excuse to justify making the same old tedious ****. Why bother trying to include a female character when you could do something completely radical like a white guy or a black guy stereotype.:rolleyes: Oh 'it doesn't match the story you want to tell' right, because what the world really needs is another story about some guys who are also criminals, that's NEVER been done before.


They said they "couldn't" have a female character? It would be impossible? That's bull. That's like Stan Lee saying a female Marvel superhero movie is "unnecessary." Schmucks.

Oh, well. Just another reason for me to not get a PS3.
Annoyed about that. Everyone wants a damned Black Widow and/or Captain Marvel film but we're going to have to sit through a bunch of b-grade heroes no one gives a **** about to get to them. I mean Ant Man, seriously? Ant Man gets a film before ****ing Black Widow.

[Wolfshade]

Best incident report:

We have to close the motorway, whatever is on the HGV keeps exploding

[Psychosplodge]

Annoyed about that. Everyone wants a damned Black Widow and/or Captain Marvel film but we're going to have to sit through a bunch of b-grade heroes no one gives a **** about to get to them. I mean Ant Man, seriously? Ant Man gets a film before ****ing Black Widow.

Even the ****ty green lantern got a film...


Best incident report:

But what is it?

[Deadlift]

Annoyed about that. Everyone wants a damned Black Widow and/or Captain Marvel film but we're going to have to sit through a bunch of b-grade heroes no one gives a **** about to get to them. I mean Ant Man, seriously? Ant Man gets a film before ****ing Black Widow.

I do, Ant man is awesome, and his story is needed to advance the avengers plot. The next Avengers film is based on the Age of Ultron and you can't have that without 1st telling Ant mans story.

Forgetting the Avengers movie, he is a founding member of the Avengers too and far more important a character than Black Widow.

With Henry Pimms abilities and multiple personalities it's got the chance to be a great movie. Especially if they introduce his girlfriend "wasp" and he uses his giant man abilities too. Don't go knocking Antman, without him you don't really have the proper Avengers.

Antman isn't b-grade, he is integral to the marvel universe. Especially when your talking about the Avengers too. His intellect easily surpasses that of Tony Stark or Reed Richards. Oh and he is quite humorous at times too.

The movie is being directed by Edgar Wright of Shaun of the dead and various other cool movies.

[Psychosplodge]

I've seen Ant man, his story was told in fallout 3...

[Wolfshade]

I've seen Ant man, his story was told in fallout 3...

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081116013603/fallout/images/b/b8/Ant.jpg

I'm more for Robot man myself

[DrLove42]

Morning all

Last day of the week! Woot.

[eldargal]

So have Ant Man in an Avengers film. But before we get Black Widow, who has been in two films already, we get Ant Man, black Panther, The Guardians of the Galxy and th Inhumans. Because apparently all those stories are more important than having an extremely popular female superheroine get her own film. It's institutional sexism, pure and simple. There is just less value and importance placed on telling a story about a woman. They can make up excuses but the fact remains there is no excuse, the story demands nothing, they are the ones creating the story.

[Psychosplodge]

Oops. Was Antman a girl?

Morning Doc, woohoo pub day!

[Deadlift]

So have Ant Man in an Avengers film. But before we get Black Widow, who has been in two films already, we get Ant Man, black Panther, The Guardians of the Galxy and th Inhumans. Because apparently all those stories are more important than having an extremely popular female superheroine get her own film. It's institutional sexism, pure and simple. There is just less value and importance placed on telling a story about a woman. They can make up excuses but the fact remains there is no excuse, the story demands nothing, they are the ones creating the story.

Rubbish, go back over your marvel universe wiki and see how important a character Henry Pimm is. Without him in canon you don't have The Avengers and you don't have the Age of Ultron. Sorry EG but your so very wrong in this. Plus if they include Wasp in the movie you will have plenty of female heroism as she's very cool too.

Oh and if your wanting kick *** females, then Guardians of the Galaxy's Gamora is the best hand to hand combatant in the universe.

[Wolfshade]

We had super girl films, what more do you need ;)

Well I broke my no spending rule and my new Within Temptation cd arrived today. The Q-Music Sessions, it is a cover albumn to celebrate the last 15 years of the band. Very happy with it :)


Lead vocalist Sharon den Adel stated that: "Our approach was to really make the cover a new Within Temptation song. So not going the easy way by using only a piano or an acoustic guitar for example, but really trying to put all the elements of a Within Temptation track in this new version. It was quite a challenge because we had only one week to get it right, while recording an original Within Temptation song can sometimes takes up half a year! But this pressure also gave us an creative boost and it was very rewarding to get it done in time each week. Also, we learned a lot from the in-depth analysis we needed to make on these hits, written by others, in combination with implementing our own sound and style in each new cover. We are glad that we’ve taken up this challenge and are very proud of the result."

[eldargal]

Rubbish, go back over your marvel universe wiki and see how important a character Henry Pimm is. Without him in canon you don't have The Avengers and you don't have the Age of Ultron. Sorry EG but your so very wrong in this. Plus if they include Wasp in the movie you will have plenty of female heroism as she's very cool too.

Oh and if your wanting kick *** females, then Guardians of the Galaxy's Gamora is the best hand to hand combatant in the universe.
It isn't rubbish, we get male lead film after male lead film simply because male stories are valued more highly. Maybe Ant Man is needed, so what? He could be introduced in the Avengers. If he is so important to the Avengers why wasn't he in phase 1? Because they wrote a story that didn't require him. Likewise they could easily fit in one or two female lead films in phase 2 but they aren't, because they would rather tell stories about men with a few token women thrown in. It's just ****ing nonsense.

[Deadlift]

It isn't rubbish, we get male lead film after male lead film simply because male stories are valued more highly. Maybe Ant Man is needed, so what? He could be introduced in the Avengers. If he is so important to the Avengers why wasn't he in phase 1? Because they wrote a story that didn't require him. Likewise they could easily fit in one or two female lead films in phase 2 but they aren't, because they would rather tell stories about men with a few token women thrown in. It's just ****ing nonsense.

Marvel are trying very hard to have continuity within their movies, so they all connect in the marvel universe. Sorry EG but as much as Black Widow is an awesome character she isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. Again I suggest you look up Gamora and Wasp both of whom are in upcoming movies (wasp I hope is anyway). They are both strong female characters I'm sure you can enjoy.

I get where your coming from (kind of) but in this I think your strident feminist stance is misplaced. And if you compare Marvel to DC, well they are streets ahead in evolving the story's to match a modern world.

[DrLove42]

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[Wolfshade]

#5490 is somewhere else

[Psychosplodge]

We had super girl films, what more do you need ;)

Well I broke my no spending rule and my new Within Temptation cd arrived today. The Q-Music Sessions, it is a cover albumn to celebrate the last 15 years of the band. Very happy with it :)

I wasn't aware of this, now I'm going to end up spending money...


#5490 is somewhere else

The last image I posted, not realising it was a series of pictures and was too lazy too go back for the first couple.
I think TB's got it right on violence in media articles - it's the companies that own traditional media that are losing out to the internet and games so of course they will talk it down in their newspapers and on their news programs...

[eldargal]

Marvel are trying very hard to have continuity within their movies, so they all connect in the marvel universe. Sorry EG but as much as Black Widow is an awesome character she isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. Again I suggest you look up Gamora and Wasp both of whom are in upcoming movies (wasp I hope is anyway). They are both strong female characters I'm sure you can enjoy.

I get where your coming from (kind of) but in this I think your strident feminist stance is misplaced. And if you compare Marvel to DC, well they are streets ahead in evolving the story's to match a modern world.
She's not important because they wrote a bunch of male characters to be more important than her, hence my point. She could be written to be important if they wanted to. They don't, because of institutional sexism that permeated Hollywood and the comic book industry. They make make characters integral and female characters optional. They choose to do this, as I said the stories don't demand anything, the writers create the stories. Marvel are doing a lot well and are miles ahead of DC but that just really highlights how bad DC is because we still have no prospect of having a female lead film from Marvel. Women made up 40% of the Avengers audience, spending around half a billion dollars on the film largely because of how bad arse Black Widow was in the trailers, but Marvel still ignores that market in favour of producing more stuff about men.

Look at it this way, we will have:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Thor
Captain America
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
Dr Strange
Inhumans
Thor 2
Captain America 2

All with male leads that are apparently absolutely vital to the plot leading into Avengers and Avengers 2. But apparently there are no female superheroes important enough to the Marvel universe to justify them getting their own film. We are also supposed to believe that not ONE of these stories could have been swapped with a female superheroine without fatally compromising the MCU. That is bull****.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

So have Ant Man in an Avengers film. But before we get Black Widow, who has been in two films already, we get Ant Man, black Panther, The Guardians of the Galxy and th Inhumans. Because apparently all those stories are more important than having an extremely popular female superheroine get her own film. It's institutional sexism, pure and simple. There is just less value and importance placed on telling a story about a woman. They can make up excuses but the fact remains there is no excuse, the story demands nothing, they are the ones creating the story.

I'm going to throw my hat into the ring on this one. EG, whilst I agree they could have done a female avenger they have serious limitations. Not the least of which is that Black Widow is their only established one and she's;
a)A bit boring
b)played by a mediocre(at best) actress who i doubt could sustain a main role in a film

Now Wasp is an integral character to the avengers, key to the character of Antman, and if they do her even half the credit she deserves (given Wright's treatment of female characters in his films that's likely) she will be EXACTLY as important in the Antman movie as Antman himself.

Should we have a superheroine film from the Avengers pantheon? YES.
Should it be black widow? NO.
So who can Disney use without intruding on other people's IP?
We're left with;
MS Marvel (X-Man crossover but best logical choice)
Scarlet Witch (X-Man crossover but a good choice)
Mantis (wholly deserving of a film but a total unknown compared to the "Big Four")
Tigra (TnA abomonation, but recognisable)
SheHulk (She's got potential, but needs introducing in a hulk film which as we know have major issues)
The rest are either members of an already filmed superteam like X-Men of FF (not Disney) ,just awful an no-one's heard of them (much like about 60% of the male avengers in fairness), or they're the female equivalent of another character E.G."spider woman" belonging to a different film company.

Don't get me wrong, I WANT superheroine movies, and MS Marvel is top of my list, but when it comes to strong marvel women that people will recognise Disney don't own the rights to any.

[Wolfshade]

Consider how many films have female leads that aren't romcoms

[Deadlift]

Sorry double post

[Deadlift]

She's not important because they wrote a bunch of male characters to be more important than her, hence my point. She could be written to be important if they wanted to. They don't, because of institutional sexism that permeated Hollywood and the comic book industry. They make make characters integral and female characters optional. They choose to do this, as I said the stories don't demand anything, the writers create the stories. Marvel are doing a lot well and are miles ahead of DC but that just really highlights how bad DC is because we still have no prospect of having a female lead film from Marvel. Women made up 40% of the Avengers audience, spending around half a billion dollars on the film largely because of how bad arse Black Widow was in the trailers, but Marvel still ignores that market in favour of producing more stuff about men.

Look at it this way, we will have:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Thor
Captain America
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
Dr Strange
Inhumans
Thor 2
Captain America 2

All with male leads that are apparently absolutely vital to the plot leading into Avengers and Avengers 2. But apparently there are no female superheroes important enough to the Marvel universe to justify them getting their own film. We are also supposed to believe that not ONE of these stories could have been swapped with a female superheroine without fatally compromising the MCU. That is bull****.

Black widow didn't even really need to be in the avengers, if you look back at the film can anyone think of a point of the plot that she was integral, where another character couldn't have filled that role ? I can't. Look there are plenty of very strong females in the the Marvel universe that would make great films (She-hulk or Ms marvel spring to mind) but I don't want the story's altered or changed just to shoe horn a female character in. What I'm saying is yes a marvel film centred around a female would be great but not at the expense of other very importing characters who are importing to the plot of the marvel universe. You mentioned Black Panther earlier and surely you can appreciate a movie about him is another step forward for marvel ? And again I will throw Gamora at you. She is pretty amazing and far more important to the Guardians than Black Widow is to the Avengers.

In other news, iPads running the iOS 7, it's nice but not much different. However the spaced out entry code pad is better for my banana fingers ;)

[DrLove42]

When did the off topic thread become the Feminism thread?

[Kirsten]

but I don't want the story's altered or changed just to shoe horn a female character in. What I'm saying is yes a marvel film centred around a female would be great but not at the expense of other very importing characters who are importing to the plot of the marvel universe.

they are not very important characters, they are just characters. comics change and restart all the time, none of the male characters you have mentioned are integral. if ant man were essential he would have been in the first film. as it is, the marvel film universe has the Avengers formed without him. as such he is not essential for phase two, the avengers already exist.

[Psychosplodge]

When YOU and EG derailed it.

C'mon the pair of you, amend your signatures appropriately...