Art

[eldargal]

We have a cooking thread, a beer thread and a thread for everything else but we don't have an art thread and as we saw in the brief art excursion in the Feminist thread (theres a couple of those too) some BoLSers know something about art. Others can't seem to tell the difference between naked men and women and are to be pitied.

So, post whatever art you like. No restrictions. Except perhaps conceptual art because if you want to look at glasses of water an unmade bed you can probably do that in the comfort of your own home without taking up bandwidth...

Some of my absolute favourites:

Venus Callipyge/Aphrodite Kallipygos (National Museum, Naples)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Venus_kallipygos03.jpg
(Kallipygos translates as 'beautiful buttocks'). The head and shoulders are modern restorations. fun fact:Kallipygos was one of my nicknames at university, showing that even our male best and brightest are sexist pigs)

Winged Victory of Samothrace (Louvre)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Nike_of_Samothrake_Louvre_Ma2369.jpg

The Blinding of Polyphemus (Sperlonga museum, Italy)
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o2/85/449985/1/52425970.I_DSCN1383.jpg
(those little figures are life size, the thing is huge. Illustrates a scene from the Odyssey where Odysseus blinds the cyclops)

Girl with Unicorn, Raphael (Galleria Borghese, Rome)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Raffael_046.jpg/460px-Raffael_046.jpg
(jumping forward a bit in time, this painting possibly depicts Guilia Farnese, mistress of Pope Alexander VI)

[Psychosplodge]

I'm not sure why you find it surprising that even bright males are sexist pigs, we are genetically programmed to it :D

[Wolfshade]

Are you suggesting beer and cooking are not art?

Two Satyrs (Ruben):
http://uploads3.wikipaintings.org/images/peter-paul-rubens/two-satyrs-1619.jpg!Blog.jpg

[eldargal]

Who said I was surprised?:p

Post some art! *flails*

Apollo Belvedere/Pythian Apollo (2nd century. Vatican Museums)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Belvedere_Apollo_Pio-Clementino_Inv1015.jpg/372px-Belvedere_Apollo_Pio-Clementino_Inv1015.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Nope.

[Gotthammer]

http://youtu.be/7mmal0PMkmI


I'm not much one for the classics for the most part, all a bit melodramatic for my tastes. I'm very fond of some of the Impressionists, Art Nouveau, Art Deco and even Pop Art to a degree. Street Art / Graffiti (http://designspiration.net/data/l/4069373435171_b4GJnogy_l.jpg) is something I find quite intriguing as it initially seems to be completely free-form, but is often laced with meanings dictated by a hidden code. Same for prison tattoos (http://www.gangsorus.com/gang_tats.htm) really. The art of retro advertising (http://www.antique-marks.com/image-files/art-deco-poster-2.jpg) also appeals to me, but I think that's partially to do with the crossover with styles I like (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/474931196_d79b07759e.jpg) and growing up with LNER posters (http://rlv.zcache.com.au/vintage_lner_railway_scotland_travel_poster_art_po stcard-ra6de30967bf74d8cac62e6a256f67d5c_vgbaq_8byvr_512. jpg) on the walls. And there's nothing quite like the bizarreness of an Eastern European movie poster (http://www.polishposter.com/).

That modern artists are more prolific / live longer allows us to see into people's heads, as it were. One of the more well known examples is Louis Wain's cats:


http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/wainmisterimente1.jpg


and how they changed as schizophrenia took hold of his mind. A more subtle one is how Monet's use of colours shifted subtly as he got older and blinder. One thing I sometimes get surprised by is how gigantic some pieces are, for instance Caillebotte's Paris Street, Rainy Day:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z7EaVCKEh6o/Tp3PQsLGSyI/AAAAAAAABu4/qnnWYtAHcJY/s1600/Cailleboutte+Paris+rainy+day.jpg

has pretty close to life-sized figures in it, same for A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sunday_Afternoon_on_the_Island_of_La_Grande_Jatt e) (also, pointillism is insane).

Some other pics I like:


Have a necklace of this one:

http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/5123981/il_570xN.70230906.jpg


I liked this one so much I recreated it on a mini (http://collegiatitanica.blogspot.com.au/2010/10/studio-mcveys-lisbeth-complete.html):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QFJtnsibUgk/UZCxeR4kAQI/AAAAAAAAASQ/tj_uNTtSwoM/s400/08_amsterdam_small.jpg

[Necron2.0]

First off, two of my favorite words ... Callipygian and Callimastian. Gotta love the greek language.

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As for my taste in art, I tend to favor the Art Nouveau and Art Deco styles. Examples of my favorites are:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/133/f/a/absinthe_robette_poster_r5ef9a4854eb24cd1aa538c395 _by_necron2_0-d654nmr.jpg
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/133/6/b/mucha_dance_by_necron2_0-d654nmp.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/133/e/a/3859804260_d7f06ddec6_by_necron2_0-d654nmm.jpg

I'm also fond of Native American sand painting, but that's a heritage thing:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/133/2/d/navajo_sandpainting_by_necron2_0-d654nmi.jpg

As for more "traditional" art, my favorite would be Michelangelo's "Pieta."

[Mr Mystery]

Very much with you on the Art Deco front.

Just a shame it suffered at the merciless hands of developers in the post war era :(

[Necron2.0]

As for what I collect, I seem to have a lot of stuff like this in my house:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/133/1/4/219900_by_necron2_0-d654nmf.jpg

I'm also quite fond of some of the pieces my ceramics instructor (http://katherynsins.com/My_Albums/Pages/traditional,_functional_pots.html) has done.

[Denzark]

Oh yawn - every time I hear the word kultur, I tale the safety catch off my browning - Hermann Goering... But actually, almost any print of Lady Butler's involving Redcoats waxing froggies is art in my book...

[Gotthammer]

Most of my art is videogame / TV / Movie art :rolleyes:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cJCuPFLfl94/TcLPXhCeZMI/AAAAAAAABA0/xa3IFSBb_I0/s1600/Naus1.jpg



Also want these badly (hell, all his stuff is awesome (http://www.stevethomasart.com/)):

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SRoGybk-RYI/AAAAAAAAk04/8x54iNZfBP8/s640/et567ujykhju%2Cjk.jpg

mind you I still need to get my Ukiyo-e Heroes (http://www.ukiyoeheroes.com/) framed... also thinking about getting my Fallout New Vegas card deck framed too.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/Gotthammer/tumblr_m5ubflWUnG1rxpi1io1_500_zps6e1af92e.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

First off, two of my favorite words ... Callipygian and Callimastian. Gotta love the greek language.

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As for my taste in art, I tend to favor the Art Nouveau and Art Deco styles. Examples of my favorites are:


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/133/6/b/mucha_dance_by_necron2_0-d654nmp.jpg


I'm pretty sure that's hanging in the toilet at home :D

now when it comes to art

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b02810ddf8113d1396642df18a09a53e/tumblr_mm17qjA3BH1rqvvxno1_500.png


and then there's street art

http://24.media.tumblr.com/878af252b5ca091f5e4735156e435c04/tumblr_mkc4iu7muA1s1jmnvo7_500.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

In terms of street art....depends.

The majority of graffiti is terribad. However, some stuff, whether intentionally or not, I do consider genuine art.

Tagging - No. Afraid not. That's just a scrawl.
Banksy - Yes, yes, definitely Art.
Large murals - Even if I don't 'get' the message, yup. Canvas, paint, intent, message. Art in my book.

Though there is one tag I find particularly good. On the London Bridge-Hastings line, just inside London proper, there is a tag, on a bridge, which simply says 'anus'. Don't know why, but that tickles me!

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah most graffiti is just vandalism, not art.

A kid I went to school with has done some nice paintings.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/9a21b378996fb2fd26a0d1733357f95a/tumblr_mlbl3gjWs41rby7x1o1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/19fda2e1c8b9e1b128e3a9d11c9cce32/tumblr_mlbkjtioqe1rby7x1o1_500.jpg

And then of course there's photography, like this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a73a1329f818d1f82852bc84caacbe8/tumblr_mjs3bi06fj1rmh40uo1_500.png
or this

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3612fa0d7da4696368f6d2e7299ba2e7/tumblr_mjgg1f0Z8l1r9zmrwo1_500.jpg

[Kirsten]

personally I like Dali, Escher, Dadaist stuff, and would burn the Tate Modern to the ground.

[Psychosplodge]

also I adore stuff like this

http://24.media.tumblr.com/f9c4225b86a1cdecb356fb57ab70d32a/tumblr_mmd8g7VWQu1s7mn2yo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/57a3aa72b974c2221ef17b54a9b5544d/tumblr_mm5f2fYM3h1s5nrd3o1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/dcaadbcc62ffb691fd1eaa6f88bf28d1/tumblr_mlpgwv0pTt1sofnweo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/b189653ff0f3b781bcd40b2ae83d6b46/tumblr_mld7lw2Usm1r8tcydo1_500.jpg

[Necron2.0]

In terms of SciFi art, I'm a fan of Michael Whelan, Luis Royo, Boris Vallejo and of course Frank Frazetta.

I'm also a fan of Dan Reeder (http://www.gourmetpapermache.com), who makes fantastic ugly nasties out of paper mache and cloth. He has really raised it to something of a high art:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6z3x8Ifzx1qzfsnio2_500.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdBmXOtLNw

[eldargal]

That's very nifty, hmm, he takes commissions. I'm thinking fantasy creature trophy room.:rolleyes: I love things like that which show that traditional artistic forms can be used in new and interesting ways without it all having to be conceptual bollocks or abstract.

[Brakkart]

I'll admit I'm not that knowledgeable on classic art and I just don't get modern art at all, but I do love fantasy art, in particular the works of such artists as Larry Elmore, Clyde Caldwell, Brom, Jeff Easley, Keith Parkinson and Wayne Reynolds. Some of my favourites are:

Urban Adventure by Wayne Reynolds
http://25.media.tumblr.com/b43f3acea15405323b58763624fe56cc/tumblr_mkveqrNDxQ1rq8jqio1_500.jpg

Gods of Lanhkmar by Keith Parkinson
http://lccomic2.narod.ru/image/comic/keith_parkinson/keith_parkinson_gods_of_lanhkmar.jpg

Lord Soth's Charge by Keith Parkinson
http://www.saviourbehaviour.com/notworrying/keith_parkinson_045.jpg

The Big Red Dragon by Jeff Easley
http://interesnoe.info/pictures/gallery/gallery3/JEFF_EASLEY__The_Big_Red_Dragon.jpg

[eldargal]

For Kirsten:

Sappho

Roman copy of 5th century BC original (Capitoline Museum, Rome)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bust_Sappho_Musei_Capitolini_MC1164.jpg/400px-Bust_Sappho_Musei_Capitolini_MC1164.jpg

Roman copy of Hellenistic original (Izmir, Turkey)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Sappho_bust.jpg/414px-Sappho_bust.jpg

Random favourite:

A Bar at the Folies-Bergere, Edouard Manet (Courtauld Gallery, London)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Edouard_Manet%2C_A_Bar_at_the_Folies-Berg%C3%A8re.jpg/800px-Edouard_Manet%2C_A_Bar_at_the_Folies-Berg%C3%A8re.jpg

[Wildeybeast]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b189653ff0f3b781bcd40b2ae83d6b46/tumblr_mld7lw2Usm1r8tcydo1_500.jpg

I'm pretty sure if people bleed when you kiss them, you're doing something wrong.

[Necron2.0]

Must resist urge to respond. Must restrain the Id.

[Kirsten]

For Kirsten:

Sappho

Roman copy of 5th century BC original (Capitoline Museum, Rome)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bust_Sappho_Musei_Capitolini_MC1164.jpg/400px-Bust_Sappho_Musei_Capitolini_MC1164.jpg

Roman copy of Hellenistic original (Izmir, Turkey)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Sappho_bust.jpg/414px-Sappho_bust.jpg


hurray. to be honest for me there are few pieces better than GWs, I love their artwork.

[DeadPanda]

Art at home, on the walls for me and the mrs is Doug Hyde. Nothing to dramatic just happy prints that make us smile.

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab3/joenortonjones/0652c84f45d20d8f5210bcac78e4d8e9.jpg

We have 3 on the walls. The kids love em too.

[eldargal]

They are rather adorable.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'd love prints of so many MTG cards, it's unreal how nice the artwork is.
Probably the only reason I play MTG. :p

[Psychosplodge]

I'm pretty sure if people bleed when you kiss them, you're doing something wrong.

Nah I always thought that if they didn't you aren't being enthusiastic enough :D

I've got that one and the one above it (http://25.media.tumblr.com/dcaadbcc62ffb691fd1eaa6f88bf28d1/tumblr_mlpgwv0pTt1sofnweo1_500.jpg) in that post as framed prints. They look awesome :p

[Wildeybeast]

They are pretty nice, I have to admit.

[Necron2.0]

I'm also partial to stuff like this:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/135/2/5/sedlecossuary_by_necron2_0-d65dpb8.jpg

To quote Jack Nicholson's Joker, "Oh, I don't know if it's art ... but I LIKE IT!!!"

I'd easily have something like this in my house, if I weren't so averse to desecrating the dead.

On a similar note, I've really been thinking about finding a way to get an MRI of my skull and then having a detailed 3D print made of it as a candy dish for my coffee table. I think it's sad that I have to wait until I'm undead to see my skull.

[Psychosplodge]

And mount it on a staff Eisenhorn style?

I do love ornate overdone stuff like this

http://25.media.tumblr.com/8a7f06872361fdddbbe092fcb8bb4806/tumblr_mjunsxEJBj1s8zjljo1_500.jpg

[Necron2.0]

And mount it on a staff Eisenhorn style?

That depends. Does Gregor have a stash of Jelly Babies tucked away in the skull on his staff?

[Psychosplodge]

I don't recall it being mentioned in the books, but that doesn't mean it isn't there...

[Bitrider]

And mount it on a staff Eisenhorn style?

I do love ornate overdone stuff like this

http://25.media.tumblr.com/8a7f06872361fdddbbe092fcb8bb4806/tumblr_mjunsxEJBj1s8zjljo1_500.jpg

DUDE! That is amazing. I really dig that.

[eldargal]

I'd like to know what building that is, for some reason it looks familiar.

In The Water by Eugene de Blaas (private collection)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Eugene_de_Blaas_In_the_water.jpg/334px-Eugene_de_Blaas_In_the_water.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Here are some of those MTG ones that I was saying about:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bltf8cz5z5ijpg/original.jpg

Black Lotus, by Chris Rahn. (note; this isn't the original art for Black Lotus)

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bltfk77bauhjpg/original.jpg

Commander's Authority by Johannes Voss

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bltgjpnfgt6jpg/original.jpg

Elspeth Tirel, Planeswalker by Michael Komarck

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bltgnntt5z1jpg/original.jpg

Endless Ranks of the Dead by Ryan Yee


There are so many pieces that I love, I think I should get a huge list and then find an image hoster to collect them all.

[Psychosplodge]

I'd like to know what building that is, for some reason it looks familiar.

In The Water by Eugene de Blaas (private collection)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Eugene_de_Blaas_In_the_water.jpg/334px-Eugene_de_Blaas_In_the_water.jpg

Well I was looking at pictures of books and libraries when I saw it so it's probably from a library?

Also Whose private collection? or do you mean your private collection?






http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bltgnntt5z1jpg/original.jpg

Endless Ranks of the Dead by Ryan Yee


There are so many pieces that I love, I think I should get a huge list and then find an image hoster to collect them all.

I like that one, it's very apocalyptic...

[eldargal]

I like Commanders Authority, non sexualised armour ftw.

No, not my private collection lol.:p Just a private collection. Someone linked to it on a forum ages ago and I liked it, Wikipedia hosts pictures. I'd like to see it in person one day.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

The art is nearly endless, MTG has been going for 20 years.

[daboarder]

The art is nearly endless, MTG has been going for 20 years.

so kinda like warhammer?


sorry couldn't resist, I do love the art that accompanies things like MTG, warhammer, Blizzard and so on.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Yes. Successful businesses are successful.

[Bigred]

First off THANK YOU!

I rarely get to talk art.

For me, I'm always taken aback by the sense of light an artist can give us - the sense realistic or not that that flat piece of canvas is a portal you can almost step into. Some do it by color, others with realism, some as if by magic.

Here's some of my favorite pieces that take me away into other worlds with light:

Turner - so much with so little, you can somehow feel the space - almost emotion and space through color
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Rembrandt - so much with such a contracted narrow palette, almost as if the light is clawing its way out of the darkness to define the forms
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Vermeer - the sense of air and volume - such an exact illusionist, you can almost feel the dust in the air between you and the subjects
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Also, you have touched on my specialty...
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My abstract tastes come later...

[White Tiger88]

...I dont get art now days, it went from classy pictures to $#(@ (Literly) thrown on a wall with some paint (I hope that was brown paint at least...) *cough* Anyhow i like old school art but this "modern" Crap is BS.

Edit:What i am getting at is that Art in my eye's at least has gone down the tube in the last 40-60 years.....

[DarkLink]

As an engineering graduate, I'm contractually required to mock art in all its forms. Except for action movies, because explosions.

[Psychosplodge]

No you're only obliged to mock arts degrees(sorry EG, Red, anyone else). You can still appreciate art itself :D

[Necron2.0]

No you're only obliged to mock arts degrees(sorry EG, Red, anyone else). You can still appreciate art itself :D

You can appreciate the art ... sometimes. I understand, because I have an engineering degree as well. I have to keep my artistic endeavors a secret, except for when it comes to painting miniatures - that classifies as geeky enough to avoid scrutiny.

Related to this - true story. A friend put me down as a reference on a job application. One of the hiring managers asked me about him, and specifically wanted me to cite a negative. I said that my friend could be a bit OCD and was slightly anti-social. The manager snorted and said, "THOSE are not negatives."

They hired him pretty much on the spot.

[eldargal]

As an engineering graduate, I'm contractually required to mock art in all its forms. Except for action movies, because explosions.
Rather amusing since some of the worlds greatest engineers have also been artists and vice versa.:p

[Wolfshade]

Rather amusing since some of the worlds greatest engineers have also been artists and vice versa.:p

Though art is not limited to materials, most of Da Vinci's "flying machines" would never fly under earth-like conditions. Some of them would even have issues if the materials were replaced with modern day super lite materials.

But yes the works of Isambard Kingdom Brunel are mangificent.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Saltashrab.jpg

[Bigred]

Speaking of bridges:

http://www.spanien-newsletter.de/fileadmin/user_upload/ausgabe-2008-juni/061se-sevilla-puente-del-alamillo-4101019a.jpg

Alamillo bridge in Seville, Spain

[Wolfshade]

Another one of Spain's famous white elephants...

[Psychosplodge]

I wonder how much that cost us.

[eldargal]

Though art is not limited to materials, most of Da Vinci's "flying machines" would never fly under earth-like conditions. Some of them would even have issues if the materials were replaced with modern day super lite materials.
Not just da Vinci, I was also thinking of the complex metallurgical and engineering skills required to create colossal bronze statues from antiquity onwards.

[DarkLink]

Rather amusing since some of the worlds greatest engineers have also been artists and vice versa.:p

Those guys don't count, they're part of the club.

[Wolfshade]

Not just da Vinci, I was also thinking of the complex metallurgical and engineering skills required to create colossal bronze statues from antiquity onwards.

When does a statue become a piece of engineering ;)

[Kyban]

When does a statue become a piece of engineering ;)

At around 30m. :p

[eldargal]

When does a statue become a piece of engineering ;)
When it requires complex engineering and metallurgical knowledge to be constructed.:p

[Wolfshade]

Complex is such a relative term.

Is this art>?
http://geoffspages.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/60163.jpg

(LNER Peppercorn Class A1 60163 Tornado)

[eldargal]

No, because it isn't a work of engineering intended to be art. A colossal bronze statue is.

[Wolfshade]

No, because it isn't a work of engineering intended to be art. A colossal bronze statue is.

I think you mean a colossus bronze statue;)

But, but it's so pretty!

[Psychosplodge]

Red ones go faster...

[The Girl]

Molded Plywood Chair by Charles and Ray Eames for Herman Miller; introduced in 1946.


http://www.homeofficesolutions.com/common/images/products/large/herman_miller/eames_molded_plywood_lounge_chair/hermanmiller_eames_molded_plywood_lounge_chair_lar ge.jpg

Also: Marina Abramović, Joseph Beuys, Sarina Brewer, Géza Szöllősi, The Idiots [group from NL], Alphonse Gottlieb, Jean-Michel Basquiat, [non-Pop Shop] Keith Harring, Ai WieWie, Wayne White, Maurizio Cattelan, Cildo Meireles, Claire Morgan, David LaChapelle, Herb Ritz, Robert Rauschenberg, David Lynch....

I could go on and on, but mainly 20th/21st century works ranging from performance to installation to mixed media to paint to animal parts. Just not Damien Hirst. The man is just annoying.

[Wolfshade]

If an A1 can't be art than a chair can't ;)

I think ultimately art is whatever people say it is. I do not conisder works like half a cow in formaldehyde, or a messy bed to be art.

It might sound simplistic but if I can't tell what it is supposed to be I dislike it.
I have a copy of Starry Night hung in my lounge and it irritates me are the stars being wrong...

[The Girl]

If an A1 can't be art than a chair can't ;)

It depends on if you think industrial design is art. I think so... there are a lot of people that do :)

I'm not one of those that is going to tell anyone what art is/isn't, either... what it is and its value is broader than the dictionary definition. Art is what talks to you... and that can totally be an A1 or a chair or a Pre-Raphaelite painting or a big dot on a canvas.

Personally I tend to not like pieces created before the industrial revolution - we don't communicate well at all. I get the difficulty of the work, the advances in style... I just don't like it. Most of what I like is the stuff that folks look at and say, "that's not art, I don't like that!" Which is fine, I won't look down my nose at anyone for it. It's preference. If you don't like it, you simply don't like it. I hate it when folks get snobby about it.

[Mr Mystery]

I was once told a broad definition of art. Anything with an intent behind it.

Thus, Tracey Emin's dirty fartsack? No, sorry love. That's just evidence of you being an absolute headcase.

Cow cut in half? Falls into the broad category. And to be honest, it's kind of interesting. Shame it was made by a total knobhead.

[The Girl]

I was once told a broad definition of art. Anything with an intent behind it.

Thus, Tracey Emin's dirty fartsack? No, sorry love. That's just evidence of you being an absolute headcase.

Cow cut in half? Falls into the broad category. And to be honest, it's kind of interesting. Shame it was made by a total knobhead.

I actually like Emin.... but, to each their own.

Hirst is has created some pieces that are worth sitting in front of for awhile [Saint Sebastian, Exquisite Pain comes to mind], and he can be rather honest about the value of his own work. He has an appropriation problem and relies on production assistants too much, though. Rubs me the wrong way. He's considered to be the greatest YBA of the 90s... he should be able to paint his own paintings for gah's sake.

[Bigred]

When did you all get so bitter?!


Lets try this:

This weekend, make something - be creative - take a picture of it and post it here. (miniatures don't count). Let's make some of our own art.

-Larry

[Necron2.0]

Ah. Well then ...

Here's some things I've made in ceramics class recently. I take art classes from time to time to keep my profession from driving me insane. Sorry these weren't made over the weekend ... ceramics generally takes more than 72 hours to do.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/145/c/d/myjunk_by_necron2_0-d66j71b.jpg

I've posted individual shots of these on DeviantArt (http://necron2-0.deviantart.com/gallery/28882615).

[Bigred]

I like Necron 2.0! I especially like the face cups. I want to see them larger like Olmec heads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_colossal_heads).

Here's one of my watercolors with a model.

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[Kirsten]

models are the only creative thing I can do so that rather rules me out

[eldargal]

I actually like Emin.... but, to each their own.
I've met her, and giving you my opinion of her would possibly get me banned.:p

I like the following definition of art:
Anything that can be recognised as such when viewed out of the context of an art gallery or museum. So take a painting and shove it an alley next to Tracy emins bed and see which one an average person recognises as work of art. It might not be perfect but it covers most things.

[Gotthammer]

Not art per-se, but thread-goers might enjoy this:


http://vimeo.com/7638752

A section of Claude Friese-Greene's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Friese-Greene) travelogue "The Open Road".


More on the BFI youtubes (http://www.youtube.com/user/BFIfilms/videos?query=the+open+road). Found this via The Book Scorpion's Lair (http://bookscorpionslair.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/london-1926.html).

[Kirsten]

I've met her, and giving you my opinion of her would possibly get me banned.:p

that is why I didn't reply to that earlier :p

[Necron2.0]

I like Necron 2.0! I especially like the face cups. I want to see them larger like Olmec heads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_colossal_heads).

That'd be one hell of a cup-o-joe. ;)


Here's one of my watercolors with a model.

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Nice! I've worked in charcoal, pencil and acrylic but watercolor scares me. It just seems there's no margins for error with it.

[Psychosplodge]

When did you all get so bitter?!


2006

[Wolfshade]

When did you all get so bitter?!

When EG said an A1 couldn't be art...

While I am not creative, I do enjoy taking photographs, though I am not Ansel Adams, nor would I even claim to be but here is my "composition".
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[Psychosplodge]

This (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-22657086) is pretty awesome.

[eldargal]

For those of us with easy access to Norfolk:

Houghton Revisited (http://www.houghtonrevisited.com/)

he magnificent art collection of Great Britain’s first Prime Minister, Sir Robert Walpole, sold to Catherine the Great to adorn the Hermitage in St. Petersburg, will be reassembled in its spectacular original setting of Houghton Hall for the first time in over 200 years.

Houghton Revisited runs from 17 May-29 September 2013 and is a unique opportunity to view one of the most famous art collections of eighteenth-century Europe. The display will include paintings from the English, French, Italian, Flemish and Spanish schools, with masterpieces by Van Dyck, Poussin, Albani, Rubens, Rembrandt, Velazquez and Murillo..

Houghton Hall, now the family seat of Sir Robert Walpole’s direct descendant, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, is considered one of the country’s finest Palladian houses.

The Hall was designed to house Walpole’s prized collection of Old Master paintings, and the magnificent interiors and furnishings designed by William Kent are also still intact. The paintings in the Houghton Revisited exhibition will be hung in their original positions in the State Rooms, bringing them back to the splendour of more than two centuries ago.

As well as hosting the Houghton Revisited exhibition in 2013, Houghton’s unique history and interior, the award-winning five acre garden, the contemporary sculpture park, playground and restaurant, offer something of interest to everyone, and make for a great day out for all the family.
It's a really amazing exhibition, I've seen a lot of it in Saint Petersburg but seeing it in the setting in which the collection was originally houses in as close an approximation to the original Walpole layout as possible is extremely impressive. I recommend anyone with an interest in art go see it. Houghton Hall is worth a visit on its own.

[Wildeybeast]

For those of us with easy access to Norfolk:

That would be only people in Norfolk then. It's pretty bloody inaccessible from everywhere else in the UK.

[eldargal]

:p Worth the effort though.

[Psychosplodge]

It's something when it's easier to get to somewhere like Scotland or Cornwall than somewhere reasonably near in distance by comparison such as Norfolk...

[Wildeybeast]

The problem is the lack of dual carriageways. All it takes is one tractor and your journey time doubles.

[Psychosplodge]

Yep. And there's nothing there that's worth sitting behind a tractor that long for...

[Wildeybeast]

Agreed. Not even my sister while she was living down there could persuade me to make that journey.

[Psychosplodge]

It's that bad I know someone that gets a train to London, then up to Birmingham for a convention, rather than make the direct car trip...

[Wrath of Azkaellon]

It's that bad I know someone that gets a train to London, then up to Birmingham for a convention, rather than make the direct car trip...

Do they not like long distance/motorway driving?

[Denzark]

Norfolk is awesome, we deliberately leave single lane carriageways to keep furriners out...

[Psychosplodge]

Do they not like long distance/motorway driving?

Dunno, probably never seen a motorway living in Norfolk :D

[eldargal]

Boris Custards The Lucky Watermelon (State Russian museum)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Kustodiev_Merchants_Wife.jpg
(Actually Boris Kustodievs Merchants Wife but I'm feeling whimsical)

[Build]

I like the sculptor Rodin and I like the Hulk, now if only there was a way to combine the two....

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/070/5/0/hulk_pensador_by_rieraescultura_art-d4sgrvc.jpg


Also, I'm assuming video time lapse wouldn't count as art?

[Necron2.0]

When it comes to Sci-Fi/Fantasy sculptors, I'm a big fan of Clayburn Moore. I own several of his statues, including two rare numbered "bronze" (in appearance) Vampirellas. I'd collect more of his stuff, if my wife didn't own such an impressive set of cutlery ... which I bought for her (that was stupid).

[Kirsten]

I couldn't agree more (some swearing)

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/im-sick-of-pretending-i-dont-get-art

[eldargal]

Pretty well sums up conceptual and many elements of modern art.

Have I mentioned a ****ing loath Tracey Emin?

[Necron2.0]

My original ceramics instructor (this guy (http://www.gc.maricopa.edu/artdept/harry.html), who used to make this stuff (http://www.pc.maricopa.edu/art/harry_kano.html)), once told me that for the vast majority of people, especially those with money, the only taste they have is in their mouths. We also had a relatively lengthy discussion over what distinguishes the average artist from a "Master" isn't talent - it's how much people are willing to pay to collect.

As example, we discussed how in Van Gogh's lifetime he literally couldn't give his art away. After he died, people started collecting what remained of his art. It wasn't until people started paying large sums of money for his works that his status transitioned from failed postcard painter to Master Artiste.

Now personally, I like much of what I've seen of Van Gogh. His works, even his static portraits, convey (for me) a wealth of emotions. To me that is what lies at the heart of true art. However, in fairness, style-wise Van Gogh's work wasn't substantially different from other impressionistic artists of his day (such as Camille Pissarro).

As for Tracey Emin ... well outside of this forum, I've never heard of her. Of course I make a real effort to avoid pretentious people, so that would explain why. From the looks of it, she's your typical art celeb - flavor of the month now, but twenty years after her death, no one will remember her.

[eldargal]

Pretty much, though there are plenty of art collectors with good taste who genuinely love what they collect. A lot of them buy a very eclectic mix of art too, not just what is trending. Often they set the trends and the people with more money than taste follow and drive the prices up.

It's really quite ironic as Modernist and conceptual art actually began as a rebellion against the ultra-traditional, critic dominated art culture that existed in the first quarter of the 20th century, with the public being told what was good not by exploring their own artistic taste but by listening to what critics said was good. Duchamps famous 'Fountain' lavatory art installation is perhaps the great example of this. Commonly misconstrued by conceptual artists today as promoting the fact that anything could be art it was, in fact, a statement against an art culture that would pay ridiculous prices and praise anything that critics and artists themselves praised as great art. The irony in all this being that the critic domination and zealous dogma of Modernist art spectacularly outstrips the dogma it rebelled against.

I have, for example, modeled for traditional artists who were threatened with expulsion from prestigious art schools simply for creating art in traditional media without some ridiculous gimmick. When some of them made a fuss about censorship and threatened to go to the Daily Mail or whatever instead they had works mysteriously disappear days before they were due to be graded or what have you.

Agree entirely about van Gogh, very good artist, nothing particularly out of the ordinary though. My favourite such fad is the Mona Lisa, a relatively unimportant and ignored work until it was stolen and recovered, then it becomes a masterpiece.:rolleyes: I mean it is still a masterpiece by one of the worlds greatest artists but it is nothing special compared to many of his other works.

[Wolfshade]

This is an interesting peice: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23482587

There is a public footpath with various debris, is perhaps the best collective noun for it, and it has been described by a local as art. He suggests that while these are accidental art, in another setting, (or perhaps another intent) it would be art. So what is art? Art is what I say is art. It is both as simple and complex as that, for what is art to one is not to another.

[eldargal]

Art=artifice. Art has to be produced, I don't believe it can be accidental. Spontaneous and unexpected perhaps but not accidental. I also don't subscribe to the theory that art is what I say it is. I think art is anything that can be recognised as art in a context other than an Art Gallery. If something only becomes Art when it is on display in a gallery, or in other words when art critics say it is art, then it isn't.

Which isn't to say someone can't think of something as art on a personal level that may not meet that definition.

The main issue I have with the 'it's art if I say it is' is that if someone say it is and I say it isn't then nothing has been achieved. If Tracy Emin say her bed is art and I say it isn't an art is subjective then everything and nothing is art, which is silly when no one is going to quibble that some things absolutely are art.

[Wolfshade]

So this, isn't art:

http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2005-12-b-web.jpg

[Mr Mystery]

No. That would be natural beauty.

[Wolfshade]

To cause controversy, "It has inteligent design"

[eldargal]

It is art because artifice is involved, a photograph has to be taken even if the object of the photograph is not created by the artist. Photography is an art and highly skillful, even if amateurs can get lucky.:) The same is true in many areas of art actually.

A sunset is not art, it is natural beauty, a photograph of a sunset is (or can be) an artwork depicting natural beauty.

[Wolfshade]

So while the items themselves on the walk are not art, a photograph of them could very well be.

So when does a photograph become elvated from just a record of what is there to being art?

[Mr Mystery]

It is art because artifice is involved, a photograph has to be taken even if the object of the photograph is not created by the artist. Photography is an art and highly skillful, even if amateurs can get lucky.:) The same is true in many areas of art actually.

A sunset is not art, it is natural beauty, a photograph of a sunset is (or can be) an artwork depicting natural beauty.

Well yeah. I was meaning the subject matter itself, rather than the actual medium.

And intelligent design? Serial? Super serial? It's not intelligent. It's utterly random.

[Wolfshade]

And intelligent design? Serial? Super serial? It's not intelligent. It's utterly random.

Why not? No proof one way or another, also not random at all all defined by gravity, but that was not the purpose of the comment. The purpose was, what if something is created through a natural process that has been planned, like Jackson Pollock's drip paintings, he does not design what happens at the point of impact, or the trajectory thoguh the air, all that is just following laws of science/nature so while he plans the art the creation, when paint meets canvas is a natural process.

[Psychosplodge]

So when does a photograph become elvated from just a record of what is there to being art?

When there's nudity.

But once there's touching it's pornography.

[jgebi]

isn't everything a work of art in one way or another? and can someone explain the difference if their not and break it down into categories

[eldargal]

isn't everything a work of art in one way or another? and can someone explain the difference if their not and break it down into categories
I favour the definition that art is anything that can be recognised as art when taken out of the context of an Art Gallery. In other words anything that a layman can look at lying in the street and think 'someone made that for other people to look at and appreciate as art'.

[Wolfshade]

So by that deffinition would you count pharmacy by Hurst as art (http://www.damienhirst.com/pharmacy)

(It might seem that I am trying to nitpick and what not, but I am genuinely curious, I do not understand, well "(post)modern art" so am trying to understand what other people recognise as art)

[Psychosplodge]

Not really, as there's a lack of nudity, and outside an art gallery it appears to serve a purpose nothing more...

[eldargal]

No, because if you take out of the art gallery it wouldn't be recognised as art.

[Mr Mystery]

Yup.

Like that pile of bricks. Or Tracey Emin's clarty bed (which only became art after event, and thus lacks intent and forethought). Or that pile of rubbish.

I think my little referred to bro put it best.....

Art for Art's sake.

Modern Art, for f**k's sake.

[Deadlift]

Modern Art, for f**k's sake.

I don't know, I like some modern art, took the tribe to The Tate in St Ives a few years back. Had lots of pieces by Antony Gormley. Fields was on piece that blew me away and the kids loved it too.

I've seen "Fields" now in various galleries and everytime my jaw drops. It's not just what it is but idea and work behind it. Amazing.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUUOQqjT-s&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXvUUOQqjT-s

[eldargal]

Not all modern art is bollocks. Conceptual art is 99 times out of 100 in my opinion but even the much-maligned abstract art can be interesting when it is done well.

[Deadlift]

Not all modern art is bollocks. Conceptual art is 99 times out of 100 in my opinion but even the much-maligned abstract art can be interesting when it is done well.

But what about painting elephants ?

[eldargal]

Definitely art.:p
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxlg05WvXr1qgs0duo1_500.jpg

[jgebi]

So what about war being an art? or torture?

Their screams are a symphony to my ears... I'm not crazy.... much

[Necron2.0]

I prefer humor, myself. I've always thought the world looks better smiling rather than crying.

And yeah, I am crazy ... much. :D

[eldargal]

So what about war being an art? or torture?

Their screams are a symphony to my ears... I'm not crazy.... much
They can be subjects of art, but no they can't be Art. There can be an art to them in the sense that they require skill and that a professional at work can be fascinating to watch but it can't be art in itself. Again if it can't be recognised as art outside the context of an art gallery than I don't think it is art, and war in art galleries is bad...

[Wolfshade]

Quick someone tell Sun Tzu!

[Mr Mystery]

Quick someone tell Sun Tzu!

Yeah. His finger painting book really got out of hand!

But overall, for me, Art requires intent, and pre-meditation. I think I may have already covered this, but can't be bothered to go and check through the thread!

Hence, Tracey Emin's Tent, in which she listed everyone she had ever slept with - Art. Planned, executed, intent.

Tracey Emin's Bed? No that's just being a dirty mare, and Charles 'Strangly Hands' Saatchi being an idiot. Again.

Pile of Bricks? Art. Perhaps not competent art, and certainly extremely contrived, but fulfils the criteria.

[Necron2.0]

Quick someone tell Sun Tzu!

Well, that's the misnomer, really. People will call something an art when it's really more a craft ... you know, the kind that involves white glue, colored construction paper and safety scissors. :)

[eldargal]

The Veiled Virgin by Giovanni Strazza:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/fb787e16e5b25ddb27ffde1ee6c8a45b/tumblr_mji9y8NR4b1qzcxrno1_1280.jpg
Marble made to look like gauze.

[Voices]

Now THAT is impressive! There had to be a way to do it, but I'd never heard of anyone ever figuring out how to until today.

[Gotthammer]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Dido_Elizabeth_Belle.jpg


Dido Elizabeth Belle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_Elizabeth_Belle)
Unknown (formerly att. Johann Zoffany)
Scotland (1779)
oil on canvas
Scone Palace, Perth (private collection of the Earl of Mansfield)


http://31.media.tumblr.com/d43ee6b11067ecdb0067a68065d0086a/tumblr_molg92ZgV91ssmm02o1_500.jpg



Although this painting falls outside the usual scope of this blog (http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/53279719036/unknown-formerly-att-johann-zoffany-dido), it is one of my favorite historical European paintings. Dido Elizabeth Belle was the illegitimate daughter of Admiral Sir John Lindsay and enslaved African woman named Belle.
This painting was most likely commissioned by her father, the nephew of the Earl of Mansfield, and depicts the beautiful and vivacious Belle alongside her cousin, Elizabeth Murray.

The first time I saw this painting was in an art history classroom, accompanied by a story regarding the dehumanization of Africans in the Unites States, and the scores of visiting Americans who were scandalized by this painting. In America and several places in Europe, contemporaneous paintings always depicted people considered Black in subservient positions in relation to people considered White, if they bothered to paint them at all. To raise a ******* daughter of color alongside legitimate heirs was antithetical to American thought.
Dido Belle was raised and educated alongside the other highborn daughters of the household, and remained a favorite of the Earl and her father well into her thirties, after which an advantageous marriage was arranged.

Her position in the Earl’s household supervising the poultry yards was typical for any lady of high birth at the time, but her job overseeing the lord’s correspondence was usually a task reserved for a highly educated male clerk or scribe and is evidence of her importance and elevated rank. She received an allowance of £30 per year, more than any except the heiress herself and a sum unheard of at the time for any illegitimate daughter.
Upon Lord Mansfield’s death in 1788, Belle was furnished with a £500 lump sum in addition to a £100 annuity, as well as a suitable marriage to John Davinier, with whom she had three children. In Mansfield’s will, her status as a free person was carefully confirmed, since many would have been all too happy to divest her of her fortune.
Belle died in 1804 and was interred in St. George’s Fields, the parish to which she and her husband belonged.

My interest in this story was renewed recently when I learned that an upcoming film, Belle (currently in production) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404181/), will be a dramatized biopic of Dido Elizabeth Belle’s life. The titular role will be played by South African actress Gugu Mbatha-Raw.

http://media.tumblr.com/7363713979643cc813fda770e1c6df4e/tumblr_inline_molgbdFSHU1rpr1t4.jpg

[Wolfshade]

Does where an artist comes from affect the ability to enjoy ones art?

There has been a lot made of Orson Scott Card's views on same sex marriage associated with the release of Ender's Game a film based on the novel with the same name.

Take this painting:
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70929000/jpg/_70929585_hitlerfarmstead.jpg
If I were to say it was an early Constable, how would you view and appraise it. Now if I were to say it is by Hitler then does this affect how you appreciate it? So if it is from someone who is terrible should we not shun it? Yet is it challenging to consider someone so vile capable of making something that is pleasing (if simplistic). Perhaps this is a truth of art and it is these conflicts between art and artist that make it worth while.

If we are to abstain from Ender's Game because of his anti-same-sex-marriage views then surely we should also abstain from Disney films or Mel Gibson things based on their (alleged) anti-semetic views, and if we do not are we then not complicit in that for the same reason we don't wish to associate ourselves with Card's views?

I really don't know.

[Psychosplodge]

Its too "clean" to be a constable.

[eldargal]

The difference is OSC is actively campaigning against LGBT rights now and if you go to see his film or buy his works you are putting money in the pockets of someone who is actively trying to discriminate against an already discriminated against minority. The others you mention are dead and can thus gain no material benefit from anything. However it isn't just OSC that provokes debates like this, another example would be Wagner and the difficulty in separating his anti-semitism from his works. It's really up to the individual to make a decision, bu personally I think when someone who is alive today trying to persecute a minority stands to benefit from your patronage you really should have a good hard look at why you are patronising him. Is two hours of entertainment really worth tacitly approving of someone like OSC?

[Wolfshade]

Mel Gibson is dead? When did that happen?!

I do see your point there is a difference between holding a view and actively campaigning on said view.

But will OSC actually make any money from it? Reportedly, he sold the rights many years ago and so will not recieve any money from the film as he has already had his upfront payment.

If that is the case then would the objection to the film still stand?

[Gotthammer]

But will OSC actually make any money from it? Reportedly, he sold the rights many years ago and so will not recieve any money from the film as he has already had his upfront payment.

If that is the case then would the objection to the film still stand?

People also often say "but Lionsgate have said they're donating to 'LGBT groups' and do not endorse OSC's views etc" - well to all that I say they already have supported his views by paying him large amounts of money for his work, so I shall refuse to support them in their endeavour (also what group? If it's the HRC or It Gets Better they lose even more points).
It's basically why I stopped buying Sanitarium products in Australia as they actively give money to groups that seek to deny me my rights.

[Wolfshade]

People also often say "but Lionsgate have said they're donating to 'LGBT groups' and do not endorse OSC's views etc" - well to all that I say they already have supported his views by paying him large amounts of money for his work, so I shall refuse to support them in their endeavour (also what group? If it's the HRC or It Gets Better they lose even more points).
It's basically why I stopped buying Sanitarium products in Australia as they actively give money to groups that seek to deny me my rights.

So will you be boycotting all lionsgate (and subsideries) going forwards?

This is pure curiosity rather than anything else it may be construed as.

[eldargal]

Mel Gibson is dead? When did that happen?!

I do see your point there is a difference between holding a view and actively campaigning on said view.

But will OSC actually make any money from it? Reportedly, he sold the rights many years ago and so will not recieve any money from the film as he has already had his upfront payment.

If that is the case then would the objection to the film still stand?
Well I don't see Gibson films since his little anti-Semitic rant, but there is a difference there in that while he holds anti-semitic views he doesn't actively campaign to strip Jews of their rights.

OSC on the other hand is actively attacking people who are already being attacked, people who are being discriminated against and in some cases actually persecuted, particularly in the US. This is someone who is providing fuel to anti-LGBT movements in the USA and elsewhere and funds too. Anything which gives him money is giving anti LGBT groups money. I suspect he probably is getting something for the film, regardless I'd rather Lionsgate be sent a message that tacitly approving of this man by propagating his **** is unacceptable to a lot of people and make them and others like them think twice about working with people who are actively trying to deny people their basic rights.

[Gotthammer]

Probably not, as said OSC got his money years ago so the rights have probably been bounced around for years and it is more this particular film itself being what it is than the company itself. It is a very visceral and emotional thing I think - I mean if Lionsgate suddenly started releasing a whole slew of dubious movie choices, yeah I would. It's like Disney with Frozen - it is hugely problematic for a variety of gender and race/ethnic related reasons, but whilst Disney are certainly no saints they are making consistent attempts to be progressive, so I won't support that project.
An 'artist' like Chris Brown, however, I would never listen to and will actively remove myself from listening if I can't shut him off given he is an awful human being (http://www.somethingawful.com/news/chris-brown-volcano/).

[eldargal]

Lilith, the bestest of demons, by John Collier, 1892, in the Southport Atkinson Art Gallery.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Lilith_%28John_Collier_painting%29.jpg
Banished from Eden for refusing to be subservient to Adam, became a badarse demon queen.

[Wolfshade]

Banished from Eden for refusing to be subservient to Adam, became a badarse demon queen.
And whore of Babylon. Also, according to some mythology first vampire.

[eldargal]

She was the whore of Babylon too? She just keeps getting better and better.:)

[Psychosplodge]

But its such a pretty name.

[Wolfshade]

I think so. I could just be making it up.

[eldargal]

Athena Guistiniani, Roman copy of the Pallas Athena, Vatican Museums.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Atena-Giustiniani---Vatican.jpg
Forearms, spear and helmet sphinx are restorations.

[spaceman91]

My two favourite pieces of art:
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6571
I hope to see them both in person some day.
Edit:
Is David the only male form left intact after the churches "censorship"?

[Lukas The Trickster]

Incredible likenesses

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[Deadlift]

Lol, hilarious.

[Mr Mystery]

Not sure if really bad tattoo, or really ugly children.

[Psychosplodge]

Not sure if really bad tattoo, or really ugly children.

yes...

[Necron2.0]

Actually, here's a statue I wish I had time to see while I was in England:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/004/3/a/boudicca_by_necron2_0-d70ukzi.jpg

[Necron2.0]

Well that was weird. The image I'd posted, which I copied to a repository I control, somehow got renamed.

[Psychosplodge]

Actually, here's a statue I wish I had time to see while I was in England:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/004/3/a/boudicca_by_necron2_0-d70ukzi.jpg

You know what, I've been to that twice apparently when in the ****hole that is London for none work purposes and never noticed it was there...

[spaceman91]

You know what, I've been to that twice apparently when in the ****hole that is London for none work purposes and never noticed it was there...

Bit harsh. I really like being in London. When I'm there it makes me feel more alive. God knows why

[Psychosplodge]

That was my lowest setting of hate for London...

[Psychosplodge]

Guitar art can be impressive...

http://i44.tinypic.com/242fnzk.jpg

[Wildeybeast]

Is that yours?

[Psychosplodge]

I wish.
I've got a hot pink guitar, that I still haven't learnt to play, it's on my todo list...
I suppose I could have Pinkiepie airbrushed onto it, or just her cutie mark *shrugs*

[SotonShades]

http://www.photoguides.net/16-incredible-van-gogh-paintings-tilt-shifted

Just some lovely pictures of applying a tilt-shift effects applied to Van Gogh paintings. really interesting results :)

[Ne Obliviscaris]

My girlfriend and I are major art/history buffs, and we're on a WWII propaganda poster buying kick. Just purchased a recreation of this poster done by Norman Rockwell. I'm really fascinated by the subject matter.

I can finally say I own a (fake) Rockwell! :D

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The posters of the time are just amazing. Powerful, racist, ridiculous, sexist... some of it is flabbergasting. And then I turn on the television and watch us demonize the "enemies of democracy" and realize that the ridiculous persists. And facepalm.

[eldargal]

Xiang fei, the Fragrant Concubine by guiseppe Castiglione. National Palace Museum, Taipei.
http://media.tumblr.com/820fb254a8388cdf4ae4452c2774d9b9/tumblr_inline_mph8qt0X7g1rpr1t4.png
From medievalpoc (http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/54690073646/giuseppe-castiglione-xiang-fei-in-european).

Women in plate harnesses ftw.

[Wolfshade]

Fluid art http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25856531

[Necron2.0]

Paper art: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1290203/The-spectacular-47-000-sculptures--paper.html

What cracks me up is the artist's claim of having developed the technique himself. He may have unique variation on a theme, but the basic technique is old, developed in Germany back in the 1800's for making pressed paper dolls. I use a similar technique when I make terrain pieces for 40k. I found the technique in a book in my public library, along with the recipe for making paper mash.

[Wolfshade]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72939000/jpg/_72939864_c0178465-euler_s_identity-s.jpg


It is a real classic and you can do no better than that.

"It is simple to look at and yet incredibly profound, it comprises the five most important mathematical constants - zero (additive identity), one (multiplicative identity), e and pi (the two most common transcendental numbers) and i (fundamental imaginary number).

"It also comprises the three most basic arithmetic operations - addition, multiplication and exponentiation.

"Given that e, pi and i are incredibly complicated and seemingly unrelated numbers, it is amazing that they are linked by this concise formula.

"At first you don't realise the implications it's a gradual impact, perhaps as you would with a piece of music and then suddenly it becomes amazing as you realise its full potential."

[Darren Richardson]

I'm also a fan of Dan Reeder (http://www.gourmetpapermache.com), who makes fantastic ugly nasties out of paper mache and cloth. He has really raised it to something of a high art:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6z3x8Ifzx1qzfsnio2_500.jpg

I so want this lamp!

[Darren Richardson]

I'll admit I'm not that knowledgeable on classic art and I just don't get modern art at all, but I do love fantasy art, in particular the works of such artists as Larry Elmore, Clyde Caldwell, Brom, Jeff Easley, Keith Parkinson and Wayne Reynolds. Some of my favourites are:

Urban Adventure by Wayne Reynolds
http://25.media.tumblr.com/b43f3acea15405323b58763624fe56cc/tumblr_mkveqrNDxQ1rq8jqio1_500.jpg

Gods of Lanhkmar by Keith Parkinson
http://lccomic2.narod.ru/image/comic/keith_parkinson/keith_parkinson_gods_of_lanhkmar.jpg

Lord Soth's Charge by Keith Parkinson
http://www.saviourbehaviour.com/notworrying/keith_parkinson_045.jpg

The Big Red Dragon by Jeff Easley
http://interesnoe.info/pictures/gallery/gallery3/JEFF_EASLEY__The_Big_Red_Dragon.jpg

I just love D&D art, they had some great artists doing their covers, my personal favourite
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Ravenloft by Clyde Caldwell

Infact he's done a number of my favourite pieces of D&D artwork over the years, mostly Ravenloft pieces.

[Darren Richardson]

The Veiled Virgin by Giovanni Strazza:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/fb787e16e5b25ddb27ffde1ee6c8a45b/tumblr_mji9y8NR4b1qzcxrno1_1280.jpg
Marble made to look like gauze.

Wow I hadn't seen that before, that sculptor had some serious skill to pull that off...

[Darren Richardson]

You know what, I've been to that twice apparently when in the ****hole that is London for none work purposes and never noticed it was there...

It's like most structures in London, at first when we first see it, it's Wow that's Amazing/beautiful/c**P etc, but once you gone past it hundreds of times it's just another obsticle to navigate :)

[Darren Richardson]

That was my lowest setting of hate for London...

I agree with you, I hate London...

AND I'm a born and bred Londoner!

[Lukas The Trickster]

Karl Kopinski has to be one of my favourite artists, he has illustrated many of the 40k codexes and WFB army books, the now defunct Rackham AT-43 Game (really gutted they went bust :(), DUST Tactics and MTG to name but a few. Those of you who are into your historical wargaming will also recognise his work from the front of the Perry Miniatures Boxed sets. These are just a couple of my favourites:

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[eldargal]

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0021/p/7953053_11400835_lz.jpg
Art has now reached it's apotheosis, from this moment the history of art will enter a perpetual downward cycle of entropy and decay.

[Wolfshade]

Art has now reached it's apotheosis, from this moment the history of art will enter a perpetual downward cycle of entropy and decay.
See even art obeys thermal dynamics.

[Gotthammer]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/1BQ4Y/doge-art/image.png

[Psychosplodge]

Is this art? or are they finger painting wrong?

http://i60.tinypic.com/25qgdh4.jpg

[Cap'nSmurfs]

Finger painting right, y'mean.

[Wildeybeast]

Bleghfmld. Money me pay for that art. Good.

[Kirsten]

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0021/p/7953053_11400835_lz.jpg
Art has now reached it's apotheosis, from this moment the history of art will enter a perpetual downward cycle of entropy and decay.

excellent

[Necron2.0]

Bleghfmld. Money me pay for that art. Good.

And this, my friends, is the sound of a man who has lost cortical capacity due to blood loss ... meaning the blood has rushed out of the head to more <*ahem*> critical areas.

[Psychosplodge]

And this, my friends, is the sound of a man who has lost cortical capacity due to blood loss ... meaning the blood has rushed out of the head to more <*ahem*> critical areas.

*amused snort*

[60-second swordsman]

Is this art? or are they finger painting wrong?

http://i60.tinypic.com/25qgdh4.jpg
Definitely art. Very good piece, in my opinion.

[Darren Richardson]

Karl Kopinski has to be one of my favourite artists, he has illustrated many of the 40k codexes and WFB army books, the now defunct Rackham AT-43 Game (really gutted they went bust :(), DUST Tactics and MTG to name but a few. Those of you who are into your historical wargaming will also recognise his work from the front of the Perry Miniatures Boxed sets. These are just a couple of my favourites:

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I wondered what happened to him, yes his work is very good indeed.

[Darren Richardson]

Is this art? or are they finger painting wrong?

http://i60.tinypic.com/25qgdh4.jpg

No, this is somebody who had a tacky idea and found some silly bint to do it.....

And it will proberly end up being worth tens of thousands of pounds....

[Psychosplodge]

And it will proberly end up being worth tens of thousands of pounds....

But isn't that why people art?

[Psychosplodge]

OK another "is this art (http://werepuppy.tumblr.com/post/78540917592/baruchobramowitz-stuff-being-thrown-at-my)?" post

Photography has a series of getting things thrown at head pics.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2namagm.jpg

[Darren Richardson]

OK another "is this art (http://werepuppy.tumblr.com/post/78540917592/baruchobramowitz-stuff-being-thrown-at-my)?" post

Photography has a series of getting things thrown at head pics.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2namagm.jpg

Is it me or does that cover to the book kinda have an Eye of Horus on the front?

If so, she deserves the boot to the head, Heratic :D

[60-second swordsman]

Nah, it's just you ;)

As for whether or not it's art, it is art. Not very good art in my opinion, but absolutely art.

#pinchofsalt #notanexpert

[Psychosplodge]

This (http://van-tallis.tumblr.com/post/78694766849/juicylilsecrets-f-l-e-u-r-d-e-l-y-s-dancers) is NSFW but amazing piece of photography.

[60-second swordsman]

This (http://van-tallis.tumblr.com/post/78694766849/juicylilsecrets-f-l-e-u-r-d-e-l-y-s-dancers) is NSFW but amazing piece of photography.
While these particular ones may or may not be the best ones of the kind I've ever seen, the style is way too common, and thus not very interesting for me. I can go on Facebook and see arty photos, not far from these in terms of quality, in my news feed any time of the day.

[Psychosplodge]

Really?
I've not really seen that done before hence the linking. *shrugs*

[Psychosplodge]

Art?


http://i59.tinypic.com/2ccpefo.jpg

[Necron2.0]

Since I've posted some of my own stuff to this thread before (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?31535-Art&p=309734&viewfull=1#post309734), thought I'd share again. This is something I made for a friend (he wanted a "pilot" for his RC airplane):

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/082/e/0/skull_pilot_by_necron2_0-d7bfc4k.jpg

Except for the eyes (which are of epoxy clay) the whole thing is paper pulp. My friend is in the process of mounting it to a servo-motor assembly so that it will bob and swivel as he works the remote controls.

So, not sure if I'd call it art ... but I like it.

... or at least I'm content with how it turned out.

[Mr Mystery]

That's pretty cool!

And something else cool, a reproduction of The Book of Miracles (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/3836542854?pc_redir=1396168216&robot_redir=1), a collection of Renaissance paintings of a Fortean nature.

Good write up an a 9/10 from Fortean Times. I for one am tempted!

[Psychosplodge]

http://i60.tinypic.com/zwlzzq.jpg

[Necron2.0]

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/333/6/1/61f816417f01c6ff6e490d10f3313c68.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

Is that a model? A digital image? or a painted model photographed?

[Necron2.0]

Is that a model? A digital image? or a painted model photographed?

I believe it is a stock photo of a nude model that has been photo-manipulated.

[eldargal]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/002361077f1225f89bb9c0b3bf3e8c8d/tumblr_n3g1gg2d491qljvplo1_500.jpg
Accurate though.

[Gotthammer]

Lolz :p

The work of Liu Bolin (http://www.galleryek.com/artist/Liu_Bolin/works/):

http://37.media.tumblr.com/c21e8b1dc6d3d2f2866595db050f2532/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o2_1280.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/fdfb03d6f4e2b2ec56306fe0bceee73a/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o4_1280.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/377233328e0a05ea5be00b57f1a7ad2e/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o5_1280.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5d8f39be91af504a365c49e06a0f4e10/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o8_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/6f317d2d517491064cd15fc9b2036f77/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o10_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/8e4262dd1812e6bdbdc04e6dc5390cf5/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o3_1280.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/529db45bc314b9e6b0f358184ca1ddc4/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o6_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/689873be049c031f137e919ccc37178a/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o7_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/74514890f290409cfc7f4022c81f5c85/tumblr_mwy7z2d9Wa1skte52o1_1280.jpg

[eldargal]

Nifty.:)

[Psychosplodge]

http://i62.tinypic.com/zn39z8.png

[Gotthammer]

Perfect :cool:

[Necron2.0]

My little girl actually channeled Khorne when I showed her this:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/274/b/4/the_fluttershy_chapter_by_laaseensld-d4bhyr2.jpg

She entirely disapproves of my "little dudes" and the notion that someone would corrupt the purity of ponies with "little-dude-ness" was entirely unacceptable to her.

[Kirsten]

http://i60.tinypic.com/zwlzzq.jpg

'keep dry'

I make no promises...

[Wolfshade]

keep dry does that mean no washing? ewww

[Kirsten]

dry clean only...

[Wolfshade]

tetrachloroethene and humans don't mix well, well they do the human is clean and ordour free, but quite quite dead.

[Psychosplodge]

My little girl actually channeled Khorne when I showed her this:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/274/b/4/the_fluttershy_chapter_by_laaseensld-d4bhyr2.jpg

She entirely disapproves of my "little dudes" and the notion that someone would corrupt the purity of ponies with "little-dude-ness" was entirely unacceptable to her.

I like that picture, the artist has perfectly captured Fluttershy's suppressed rage.



'keep dry'

I make no promises...

*snort*