Agents of Shield

[DrLove42]

#CoulsonLives


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yg_jaOPV_E

Yeah. I'm all over this....

[eldargal]

*flails excitedly*

[Mr Mystery]

*flails excitedly*

I think this is the single most suitable description.....

*joins in with the flailing, but not in a Hipster way...just because I can see the advantages*

[Minibem]

grins, like a Cheshire cat! and fails!

Wonder if this will ever come to the UK

[DrLove42]

Either Sky or Channel 5 will pick it up.

Most likely Sky. But thats what the internet is for

[eldargal]

I will download the episodes and if I like the show enough to watch more than three or four of them I shall pre order the DVD at the earliest possible time. Better than waiting months or more in the hope that one of our channels might pick it up.

[Mr Mystery]

I think it will be Channel 5. Seems very them.

I hope to hell it's not Sky. I avoid giving money to Murdoch wherever possible.

[DrLove42]

Channel 5 only seem to buy crime shows...but they also carry things like once upon a time and Sons of Anarchy....

Its going to be a big budget blowout kind of show though....and Sky tend to buy them. Things like Glee, 24, Bones, Game of Thrones....they carry the big budget glossy shows...

[DrLove42]

They've released the full trailer for season 1.

Seems to hint at having Luke Cage, one of the Avengers in the comics in it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo

[Mr Mystery]

They've released the full trailer for season 1.

Seems to hint at having Luke Cage, one of the Avengers in the comics in it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo

Flail factor ELEVENTYTWELVE!

[eldargal]

It's going to be tiring flailing until September. Did anyone really believe Coulson was permanently dead?:rolleyes:

[Mr Mystery]

Nope. On account he's clearly a LMD when Loki tonks him. We never did see what was in that cabinet/locker. It's only implied it was the big gun of shootiness.

[DrLove42]

Man if hes not dead, hes gonna be PISSED that Fury blooded up his mint Captain America trading cards....

[DrLove42]

Just in case you needed more reason to watch this show...

Shepard Book is in it

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7709557760/h0A7A7B52/

[eldargal]

Oh my goodness.

[Mr Mystery]

YAy!!!!!!

Quick! Make it September already.

[Wildeybeast]

Do we know if any terrestrial UK channels have picked it up yet? Or are the peasants amongst us forced to wait until it comes out on DVD (stupid HBO, why the **** am I waiting until February for a series your finished airing a couple of months ago:mad:)

[DrLove42]

Nothing yet. Allknown is it has been picked up for Canyada and Oz

Cough Cough. www.projectfreetv.com Cough

[Wildeybeast]

I've never watched pirated TV and film and I never will. I'd rather wait 6 months and get ripped off for a box set than steal someone else's creative work.

[DrLove42]

Thats all right. Its only pirated if you download it

[eldargal]

I've never watched pirated TV and film and I never will. I'd rather wait 6 months and get ripped off for a box set than steal someone else's creative work.

I'll download shows that aren't broadcast here and then buy the DVD, I don't consider it piracy as I don't get the opportunity to give them ratings support and they get the money regardless. Otherwise I'm with you, if you like something, support it financially. Given that a lot of networks put the episodes up on their website to stream (but block foreign access) I really don't see it as being any different from watching it online. 'cept I can't unless I get my brothers to switch our proxy IP which they seem to get cranky about.

[Mr Mystery]

This show is one of the reasons I now have Sky.

If it's being shown in the UK, I'll be able to get it.

[DrLove42]

If I can I'll watch it legally

If I can't online it is, then buy it at the end

[DarkLink]

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

[Mr Mystery]

You can get Games of Thrones off Blinkbox in the UK....

[eldargal]

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
So long as he buys the DVD I think it's fine.:p

Think I'll name one of my female IG Baneblades the C*nthammer.

[daboarder]

Ahh such a joy not to be faced with the Australia tax....

I've got no problems pirating digital media if its double the price or unavailable just because of where I live.

[DrLove42]

Confirmed that SHIELD will be broadcast by Channel 4 in the UK, sometime this Autumn.

[Wildeybeast]

So we can expect an airing at a reasonable time for the first episode before it then moves to random times late on different weekday nights. Better get series record ready. :rolleyes:

[DrLove42]

I 4OD everything anyway

Better than it being on Sky and half f us not having access to it

[Wildeybeast]

That is true. I can't be doing with the unskipable adverts on 4OD, which is why I record everything.

[eldargal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLDWWbqpl9U
Hee!

[DrLove42]

Yep. I am excite

I just hope it delivers. Thing slike Sarah Connor Chronicles should have been awesome but fell flat

[eldargal]

Me too, though I never watched Sarah Connor Chronicles. Never been a huge Terminator fan.

[chicop76]

Me too, though I never watched Sarah Connor Chronicles. Never been a huge Terminator fan.

It was dumb. I m surprised you didn't follow Sarah Connor. In all the terminators and in the series she's a woman's man. She kinda reminded me of the hispanic lady from Aliens. Wiever is another kick butt lady.

It was a let down. I was also let down on the Bionic Woman as well. I barely remember the original show and was hoping the New Bionic Woman would be awesome. Again another let down.

Only show I liked which they stop showing is Young Justice. That show is really good. I think Eldargirl would like Artimes, altough Miss Martin get a bit dark in the second season. Zatanna is cool. Never did really like wonder girl or the force field chick.

I think however Black Canary and Wonder Woman still rank pretty high for me in the animated series.

I can't comment on Batwoman since I havn't read anything about her yet. I been reading kick *** 3 and Thanos right now.

I wil wait a bit to watch the show. It would be interesting to hear how Carson survived against Loki. They can go the Heros route or they can go the way of the guy who worked in best buy and was a spy since he had some programing. Yeah it was Chuck. The female agent in Chuck was awesome.

[Wildeybeast]

Damn, Cobie Smulders ain't half cute. Don't how she has time to do this and that one with Dougie Howser.

[Mr Mystery]

So we can expect an airing at a reasonable time for the first episode before it then moves to random times late on different weekday nights. Better get series record ready. :rolleyes:

And don't forget, snarky comments from the hipster scum they seem to exclusively recruit from....

[Kyban]

You can watch full ABC shows on their site can't you? Or is that blocked in the UK?

Super exited!

[DrLove42]

Channel 4 are airing it 3 days after the US

[Wildeybeast]

Just enough time for everyone over here to have pirated it then. You do wonder what this American exclusivity actually achieves.

[Mr Mystery]

Just enough time for everyone over here to have pirated it then. You do wonder what this American exclusivity actually achieves.

Main issue is delays in home release.

Take Dr Who. It's release quite quickly onto home media. Game of Thrones? Inexplicably long time.

Not that I pirate personally. Happy enough to wait.

[DarkLink]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/game_of_thrones/1.jpg
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

[Mr Mystery]

Friend has attended a Press Screening....he gives it many, many thumbs up (I believe he gave so many, he is now mistaken as a deity in rural India).

Though to be fair, he does work for Marvel as his day job.

[eldargal]

http://static03.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2013/09/tumblr_mt8sw5FSzb1qksppho1_1280.jpg

[Wolfshade]

I am getting excited

[DrLove42]

So this Premed in the States last night

Anyone seen it feel like giving us a spoiler free impression?

I'm tempted to find a stream tonight so I don't have to wait till Friday

[Wolfshade]

So this Premed in the States last night

Anyone seen it feel like giving us a spoiler free impression?

I'm tempted to find a stream tonight so I don't have to wait till Friday

Naughty Love, don't do it.

[Mr Mystery]

Naughty Love...hurr....

But yes....

Nobody tell us *anything* until at least Monday! That way, I'll have had a chance to watch it (I role play on Friday nights)

[DrLove42]

Yeah I game on Friday night, so i'd have to watch it on Saturday

[DrLove42]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/24/joss-whedon-interview/

Great interview with Joss on Firefly, Buffy, Shield, Avengers and Doc Horrible 2....

[eldargal]

I may have accidentally watched it...

[Wolfshade]

I may have accidentally watched it...

I thought better of you, freetard.

[Mr Mystery]

Staple your mouth shut.

It's the 'not blurting out spoliers' equivalent to taking off and nuking alien infestations from space.....

[DrLove42]

I may have accidentally watched it...
The important question is then is it good?

I'll be watching it whatever you say, and even if the first ep is bad i'll watch the next few to let it improve....

[eldargal]

Yeah I'm not saying anything other than that it was very good.:)

I will also buy the DVD/Bluray the moment it is up for pre-order.

[DrLove42]

Excellent. Whenever I watches it will be worth it then

[eldargal]

I thought better of you, freetard.
Meh, on the odd occasions I download a show I always buy the DVD and this is the first time for a show that has actually aired on television here at all.

[Wolfshade]

There is an issue regarding the timliness between available in one region and another, then the amount of time to DVD/streaming services.

It has been suggested that it is this delay that actually encourages illegal downloads.

[DrLove42]

And in this day and age, the internet is just spoilerific. The delay of 3 days isn't so bad...

But imagine some other shows. I'm a huge fan of the Mentalist, and its due to reveal the identity THE big bad guy. And here in the UK i'd have to wait 6 months before it even broadcasts

[eldargal]

There is an issue regarding the timliness between available in one region and another, then the amount of time to DVD/streaming services.

It has been suggested that it is this delay that actually encourages illegal downloads.

Right, if I'd been able to watch it tonight I wouldn't have bothered downloading it. Waiting until friday evening is pointless. Plus in a few hours it will be online on the US website and anyone with a VPN will be able to watch it online anyway.:rolleyes:

[Wolfshade]

A Field in England tried to over come this issue by being available in cinemas, online, DVD and TV all on the same day.

[Wildeybeast]

Not the first film to do it, but it does go some way towards countering piracy. I'd imagine most pirates are the scum who won't pay no matter it's availability, those who can't physically restrain themselves like EG are probably in the minority. Either way, colour me excited.

[Mr Mystery]

Yeah I too have a very low opinion of those who pirate on a habitual basis.

I don't think EG is justified in her downloading of this either though. After all, it's on Telly, and one would assume C4 catch up shortly after, this Friday.

But it's mostly when they go on and on and on and on and on about the profits and that made by 'the corporations', because apparently nobody should be making any profit ever, because...because profits suck! Wikileaks said so! And....and so did Anonymous, and clearly a bunch of internet tits in childish masks are the people to listen to.

[Wildeybeast]

I don't want to have a pop at her, but I don't agree with it and her justification that 'I always buy the DVD' doesn't really wash. Though I'm sure she couldn't give a toss what we think about it.

[Mr Mystery]

Well indeed!

Just because I don't agree, doesn't mean there's a reason for anyone to be a dick about any of it.

[scadugenga]

Pilot episode...

So..

Good...

[DarkLink]

I don't think EG is justified in her downloading of this either though. After all, it's on Telly, and one would assume C4 catch up shortly after, this Friday.

See my Game of Thrones post. I do not own TV. I do not intend to. And if you think that I'm going to spend like $40 a month or whatever it is just to watch one single TV show, amounting to four whole hours of TV a month, then you've got something coming to you. If the TV network wants my money, they're going to have to provide me with a product I'm actually going to buy. Such as a DVD, but that takes way, way too long. Which means a Netflix style service, which they don't have. If they released GoT Season 3 on DVD this exact instant, I would change out of sweats and drive straight to the store. I might even skip the sweats part. But they haven't, and I'm not going to feel bad for poor customer service.

[eldargal]

Well the people that make the show are getting the same amount of money as they would from me anyway, and they don't lose ratings because we don't participate in the surveys and whatnot. So who is harmed by my 'piracy'? No one. The people who make it still get their money, the ratings remain unaffected.

[Mr Mystery]

The Broadcaster.

Fewer people watching, means arguably less advertising revenue.

But like I said, I don't agree with your choice, but I'm not going to be a penis about it. If you felt justified, you felt justified.

[eldargal]

The Broadcaster.

Fewer people watching, means arguably less advertising revenue.

But like I said, I don't agree with your choice, but I'm not going to be a penis about it. If you felt justified, you felt justified.
Except in my case they would't know I was watching anyway, we don't participate in the rating surveys and whatnot.

[Wildeybeast]

See my Game of Thrones post. I do not own TV. I do not intend to. And if you think that I'm going to spend like $40 a month or whatever it is just to watch one single TV show, amounting to four whole hours of TV a month, then you've got something coming to you. If the TV network wants my money, they're going to have to provide me with a product I'm actually going to buy. Such as a DVD, but that takes way, way too long. Which means a Netflix style service, which they don't have. If they released GoT Season 3 on DVD this exact instant, I would change out of sweats and drive straight to the store. I might even skip the sweats part. But they haven't, and I'm not going to feel bad for poor customer service.

I agree with the point that companies massively shoot themselves in the foot when they take stupidly long lengths of time to release DVD's but the 'they aren't providing me with the service I want, so I'll just steal their stuff' argument is pretty weak.


Well the people that make the show are getting the same amount of money as they would from me anyway, and they don't lose ratings because we don't participate in the surveys and whatnot. So who is harmed by my 'piracy'? No one. The people who make it still get their money, the ratings remain unaffected.

I would argue that is a slippery slope. Piracy is effectively theft, I'm pretty sure it's still not cool stealing people's stuff, even if they don't notice. Like when Emma Watson robbed Paris Hilton.

Here's the thing I don't get about piracy - you wouldn't do it any other walk of life, so why is it ok in this case? People don't go into a bookshop and say 'damn the new Pratchett isn't in paperback for another six months, so I'll just help myself to this hardback one. I'll buy two paperback copies when they are released, they won't lose any money so it's fine and no one gets hurt'. It baffles me that people think it's ok and that lame justifications somehow excuse them.

[eldargal]

I don't think what I do is stealing (ans I've given it a great deal of thought), up until SHIELD they have been shows which haven't aired here at all. In the case of SHIELD who exactly is being stolen from? The creators will get the same amount of money from me as they otherwise would, the local broadcaster gets one less person watching but it's not a case of them not knowing it's a case of me not existing as far as they are concerned. They lose nothing because they never had my viewing figure (hur) to lose. It's much closer to 'had they done something better they would have had an extra customer' rather than 'we lost one customer'.

To go with the book analogy it would be more like 'that book isn't being sold in the UK at all, so I'll buy it online' in the sense that the local retailer (or broadcaster) is getting no benefit but the creator is getting the same amount of money. In the case of Shield it's a case of 'I'll borrow it from the library until I can buy it'.

If local networks start losing viewers in significant numbers then they need to do more to get the shows sooner. For example, I love Homeland. It airs in the US on September 29 in the US. We wait until October 6. According to a friend Australia their network with it will be streaming it online FIFTEEN MINUTES after it airs in the US. Fifteen minutes, we wait a week. I'll probably wait the week for Homeland (and I won't necessarily download future episodes of SHIELD either) but it's clear the only thing keeping us days/weeks/months behind is bull****. So if creators continue to get the same amount of money from me and the worst that happens is our broadcasters are compelled to cut down on delays then nothing bad has happened. Certainly nothing immoral.

I also want to reiterate that this is something I've thought about a lot, it's not a case of me being impatient and justifying it after the fact.

[Wildeybeast]

To me, taking stuff you don't own, without paying for it and without the owners permission is stealing. The who and the how and why are minor details and whether you call it piracy or copyright infringement or whatever, it all amounts to the same thing. Stealing is WRONG. Stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family is understandable and forgiveable, but that doesn't mean it still isn't wrong. The end never justifies the means and trying to get better access to a product is not a justification. It is also a flawed idea because it's as likely to lead to draconian copyright protection as improved service.

It isn't like a library at all because no one is lending it to you and you know full well that if you asked to 'borrow' it the owner would say no, so you've just taken it anyway. I'm really trying not to get at you specifically and I have no doubt you have carefully considered it, but this is something that really gets me going, probably irrationally so. In a weird way, I kind of respect the people who say 'I'm pirating this because I'm a selfish sh1t, no one can stop me, so eff you all'. It's wrong, but at least it's honest and there really isn't any reply to that other than saying it is wrong. But when people try to justify something they know to be wrong, to argue it away, to excuse their actions by blaming others, it really irks me. I guess the biggest thing is this: I have to be patient, I have to wait, I sometimes even have to go without, because I follow the rules. Why the **** shouldn't everyone else?

Edit: I've also just figured out who you are hurting with this line of argument. If your actions force the broadcasters to get better deals they will have to pay more money to do so, probably considerable sums. So it is not a victimless crime.

[Deadlift]

I have to agree with Wildeybeast on this. Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned but I always figured that if everyone went the "pirated" route then the films and shows we enjoy wouldn't continue to be made. Each to their own, but I'm quite happy to watch my films and shows the way the producers intended.

[Wildeybeast]

And the pirates know we think like that, so they know they can get away with it because honest folk like us will keep shelling out ever more excessive amounts of money to keep the creative industry going. :mad:

[biffster666]

This thread has some wonderful examples of 'perception is reality'. Technically I'm breaking the law, but...everything before the word 'but', amirite? :D

Regarding Agents of Shield, I won't be checking it out because the major networks and even most cable TV is 100% crap IMO. Especially when it comes to the 'hardcore' shows. When the second to last episode of GoT season three aired I immediately told my brother that a lot of people (women especially) would be freaking out, fan or not. That was hardcore IMO. :D

[daboarder]

And the pirates know we think like that, so they know they can get away with it because honest folk like us will keep shelling out ever more excessive amounts of money to keep the creative industry going. :mad:

wolf you do know most market studies show that despite what music and movie industries would have you believe, piracy is not a "lost sale" its a sale the market never had in the first place.


If local networks start losing viewers in significant numbers then they need to do more to get the shows sooner. For example, I love Homeland. It airs in the US on September 29 in the US. We wait until October 6. According to a friend Australia their network with it will be streaming it online FIFTEEN MINUTES after it airs in the US. Fifteen minutes, we wait a week. I'll probably wait the week for Homeland (and I won't necessarily download future episodes of SHIELD either) but it's clear the only thing keeping us days/weeks/months behind is bull****. So if creators continue to get the same amount of money from me and the worst that happens is our broadcasters are compelled to cut down on delays then nothing bad has happened. Certainly nothing immoral.


Yup the only thing industry will listen to is the cash flow at the end of the day, Australians have been complaining for years about the poor supply and inflated cost of media here form overseas, it wasn't until we started seriously pirating these shows that the networks actually listened to us.

[Wildeybeast]

Yup the only thing industry will listen to is the cash flow at the end of the day, Australians have been complaining for years about the poor supply and inflated cost of media here form overseas, it wasn't until we started seriously pirating these shows that the networks actually listened to us.

So don't buy the DVD or watch the show. They still lose money and you make your point. Why do you have to break the rules and hurt those of us who follow them? This modern day Robin Hood BS pedalled by the likes of Anonymous is simply a childish excuse for selfish people doing selfish things and trying to justify their actions to the annoyed majority.

[Mr Mystery]

See this is why I just tend to say my piece and leave it on piracy these days. It's a really contentious issue.

Take Darklink, and I'm sorry to single you out on this one matey, but it's something you said. You mentioned their customer service being poor. Yes, I do agree with you. GoT takes an insanely long time to be released onto home media, and yes, that does drive up piracy. But you also said you don't own a telly, and are unwilling to shell out for it. So I don't think you can claim poor customer service, on account at no point have you been a customer. You've just pinched it.

Now I don't intend to go on and on about this. Some can justify piracy to themselves, and that's fair enough. Their decision, not mine. I may not agree with their justification, but I don't intend to cause an argument, or get preachy. I can't justify interwebular piracy to myself, so I don't do it. If you can, fair enough. End of story really.

And remember, my main bone of contention is with the likes of Anonymous, who see it as entirely justified, because they don't like the price. Be it book, movie, series, album, single, if they wants it, they'll just take it, because despite piracy clearly being theft, they'll just download it, because they're such special little snowflakes, they can just do that. And then crow about it. Or wander from Forum to Forum asking after torrents and that. Because they're so special, they don't have to pay, and frankly the world has a damned cheek asking for payment for anything.

[Wildeybeast]

I tried making a point and leaving, but I just can't. :p You are absolutely right on the customer service issue Mystery. No one walks into a shop and says 'I like your product but your customer service stinks so I'm just going to pinch your stuff until you sort it out. And by sort it out I mean tailor it to my exact personal requirements, regardless of how much that costs you or whether that is what everyone else wants'. Yet, because the people who own the product can't respond to the pirate directly, because they can't immediately see the consequences of their actions, because it's a virtual product and a 'victimless crime', the normal rules of society get suspended.

[Mr Mystery]

I think the issue here is that is a passionate subject. Not 'ooh beh-bah' passion like, but you know, personal and passionate like.

As such, it's hard to remember people are in all likelihood typing dispassionately, and aren't meaning to be personal.

[Wildeybeast]

Yeah, that's true. No personal digs intended, but I guess it's hard to avoid it becoming personal when you are slamming something the people you are talking to are doing. Like you said, it's their choice, sucks for the rest of us but we aren't going to change their minds. If pirates cared about others they wouldn't be doing it in the first place, so me getting preachy about how it does affect others won't make any difference. Think I'll stop making myself so irate and step back from this one. The important thing is that tomorrow we all get to bask in Joss Whedon's glory.

[Wolfshade]

wolf you do know most market studies show that despite what music and movie industries would have you believe, piracy is not a "lost sale" its a sale the market never had in the first place.


Yes I do, it is a point I have made before, it is one of the places that Notch and I are in agreement.

[eldargal]

Edit: I've also just figured out who you are hurting with this line of argument. If your actions force the broadcasters to get better deals they will have to pay more money to do so, probably considerable sums. So it is not a victimless crime.
If that happens, if they end up paying more and assuming the higher viewing figures don't make it worth their while. If our broadcasters end up paying more then the production companies and networks who produce the shows get more money allowing them to make more and better shows. That's an odd kind of victim. When it comes to foreign shows our broadcasters are middlemen, I don't consider going to the source to be piracy. SHIELD was aired on free to air television afterall. The others I've downloaded haven't been broadcast here at all so I can't steal from broadcasters what they don't have.:)
Even assuming they do have to pay more, apparently a broadcaster in Australia with a third of our population can afford to pay extra to get it 15 minutes later but our broadcasters can't? I don't believe that for a moment.

The trouble is our broadcasters are operating like it's the 90s and tapes have to be physically shipped out. I don't see how there is any excuse to have to wait days for a show when the channel could be in possession of the show before it even airs in the US. I mean the first episode of Homeland season 3 has already been leaked online and it hasn't even aired in the US.

I have to agree with Wildeybeast on this. Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned but I always figured that if everyone went the "pirated" route then the films and shows we enjoy wouldn't continue to be made. Each to their own, but I'm quite happy to watch my films and shows the way the producers intended.
The people who create the shows get money out of me regardless though, if I download a show I buy the DVD. Even if I decide I don't like the show. My priority when it comes to creative content is making sure the creators get their fair share, not that our local broadcasters get rewarded for an archaic approach to television broadcast.

Alternatively I could watch SHIELD on C4, they would never know and get no advertising benefit and still pay ABC/Disney the same amount, then not buy the DVD and the creators get less money so I think focusing on piracy as the immoral thing here is really silly.:)

Also, I'm not taking any of this personally or being offended I think it's been a very civil discussion.

[Wolfshade]

The trouble is our broadcasters are operating like it's the 90s and tapes have to be physically shipped out. I don't see how there is any excuse to have to wait days for a show when the channel could be in possession of the show before it even airs in the US. I mean the first episode of Homeland season 3 has already been leaked online and it hasn't even aired in the US.

^^ This, if you look at pirated films, they aren't some guy with a camcorder they are digital copies of the digital film.

Similiarly, look at Breaking Bad and House of Cards both on Netflix, this is how people want to watch their TV on demand being able to consume enitre seasons at once, not episodically.

The people I work with are busy people and so don't watch TV during the week consequently they have their series link recording of tv shows and then at the weekend just relax and watch them back to back to back.

[eldargal]

Anyway, when it comes to the SHIELD pilot I'm giving it a 3.5/5 taking into consideration it's the pilot. No spoilers coming. It was amusing and enjoyable but a bit light on character development but it got most of the basics out of the way, had a few nice little twists with implications for the long term plot and I expect like most Whedon shows it will get dramatically better as it goes on.

[energongoodie]

Anyway, when it comes to the SHIELD pilot I'm giving it a 3.5/5 taking into consideration it's the pilot. No spoilers coming. It was amusing and enjoyable but a bit light on character development but it got most of the basics out of the way, had a few nice little twists with implications for the long term plot and I expect like most Whedon shows it will get dramatically better as it goes on.

+1

[DrLove42]

Yeah I felt it suffered because a lot of the key "moments" had been in the trailer, and the suprise was gone

But I enjoyed it a lot. Look forward to seeing a lot of the backstory on characters.

[DrLove42]

People still watching? Its getting better now, lost a bit of the cheesy factor and getting to grips with the characters stories and backgrounds.


Also did people hear that Marvel signed a contract with Netflix to make 4 exclusive TV shows focusing on lesser Marvel characters?

[Mr Mystery]

I'd agree it's definitely picking up.

Though every Sci Fi series worth it's salt sucks horribly in the first season, with a couple of notable exceptions to prove the rule.

DS9? Terrible first season.
Babylon 5? Didn't it's stride until half way through the second season.
Stargate Atlantis? Ditto.

[eldargal]

Last episode was great, the Feels!:(

[Wolfshade]

Last episode was great, the Feels!:(

I know!

I am enjoying it.

[Brakkart]

Last episode was great, the Feels!:(

Yup loved the last episode, especially as Simmons is fast becoming my favourite character on the show.

[eldargal]

Yup loved the last episode, especially as Simmons is fast becoming my favourite character on the show.

Ditto.

Simmons
Coulson/May
Fitz
The Rest

Also really, really looking forward to Victoria Hand and GOD I hope she is a regular and not just recurring or a one off:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/a7e6d681f936b527ddfb9503db4f96a7/tumblr_mvv08zqc671qa9dc5o1_1280.jpg
She's six feet tall! *tall woman solidarity fist bump*

[Mr Mystery]

Mmm. Tall lasses.

Anyways......

I think I need to see The Dark World sooner rather than later, on account a shortly forthcoming episode apparently intersects with the aftermath of that film.

[eldargal]

I was going to see it today but I've come down with a cold or something.:(

Tumblr on Victoria Hand:

Six feet of lesbian badassness. I approve!
Mm-hmm.

[scadugenga]

After a sharp decline in quality in episodes 2 and 3, they are finally on the upswing.

I'll concur with EG re: Victoria Hand.

[Brakkart]

Ditto.

Simmons
Coulson/May
Fitz
The Rest

Also really, really looking forward to Victoria Hand and GOD I hope she is a regular and not just recurring or a one off:


Yeah that's about how I rate the characters too, though I'm starting to prefer May to Coulson. I love her nickname (which she hates!). They've got Saffron Burrows to play Victoria Hand so I doubt she'll be a regular, but I'd take recurring over a one off. She does look the part that's for sure. I know Agent Sitwell from the One Shot: The Consultant is in the same episode as her too.

[Mr Mystery]

Not sure where I mentioned this before, but seems Peggy Carter may be getting her own TV series.

Which is nice. Especially to those who enjoyed the one shot 'Agent Carter'. Which is awesome.

[eldargal]

It's been strongly rumoured, yes.:) I really hope it happens because she is fantastic. Her car shooting scene in the first CA film helped make the film for me, I was expecting her to be written along the lines of the wartime love interest, watching the man go off to war and waiting for him like a good girl but nope. Badarse.:)

Recurring would be better than one off for sure. Semi-regular recurring would be nicer.:)

[Gotthammer]

The Looney Tunes Show already did that show, with Granny kicking *ss in her WWII days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPZmtA5jcGM) :p

http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110708155728/looneytunesshow/images/thumb/8/88/Snapshot20110708011947.png/640px-Snapshot20110708011947.png

[Mr Mystery]

50's styled redheads......*drools*

Show continues to pick up the pace somewhat. Friday's episode was sweet!

Next one apparently crosses over with Thor The Dark World, so I'll be skipping it until I've seen the film (next Saturday).

[Mr Mystery]

Latest episode, about half way through.

It's rather upped the ante! Really good episode so much, and starting to build up the arcing storyline nicely!

[Brakkart]

Pretty decent mid-season cliffhanger there. I'm enjoying the series thus far, it's not brilliant but it does have the potential to get there. As with all good series, it takes time to build plot and characters that we care about. The look on May's face at the end of this episode is just priceless, I truly pity the next person she gets to take some aggression out on!

Also the interplay between Simmons, Mike and Fitz was hilarious!

[eldargal]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/1488aa7e8e04388c844ff1db8687427f/tumblr_mqva1ni9Zv1qewghlo1_500.png

[Mr Mystery]

Pretty decent mid-season cliffhanger there. I'm enjoying the series thus far, it's not brilliant but it does have the potential to get there. As with all good series, it takes time to build plot and characters that we care about. The look on May's face at the end of this episode is just priceless, I truly pity the next person she gets to take some aggression out on!

Also the interplay between Simmons, Mike and Fitz was hilarious!

Yup.

It's been a slow burner, and a wee bit beyond expectation, but that episode helped to tie things together and make the previous events, previously relatively 'villain of the week, boo, hiss!' more cohesive.

I guess it's kind of hard to write/plot for on account it's in a universe of super heroes, but not really featuring them. That messes with people's expectations!

[Wolfshade]

I am surprised this hasn't been mentioned prior to this.

Jaimie Alexander Guest Starring as Lady Sif on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/01/thor-sif-jaimie-alexander.jpg

ABC president Paul Lee revealed a notable guest star from the Marvel movies is coming to Marvel's Agents of SHIELD in the form of Jaimie Alexander, who will reprise her role as Lady Sif, the Asgardian warrior she's played in Thor and Thor: The Dark World.

Alexander is filming her guest role right now, for the 15th episode of SHIELD's first season. Her guest appearance will mark the first time a non-SHIELD agent character first introduced in the films is showing up on SHIELD (Cobie Smulders, Maximiliano Hernández and Samuel L. Jackson have appeared on the series so far) and she's also the first superpowered character from the films to guest star.

[eldargal]

Gah, I kept meaning to post it but was distracted by

[Wolfshade]

bunk?

[Wildeybeast]

Anyone know when Channel 4 is pulling it's finger out and getting it back on air? These stupid mid-season breaks really bug me.

[Wolfshade]

March apparently: http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/marvels-agents-of-shield/28790/marvels-agents-of-shield-returns-to-channel-4-in-march

[Wildeybeast]

Stupid American scheduling. What on earth is the point of mid season breaks?

[Brakkart]

Stupid American scheduling. What on earth is the point of mid season breaks?

It's to accommodate all the Xmas programming and also because unlike us sensible Brits with our series, as in we don't put it on air until the whole series is filmed and finished, the Americans usually only have 7-8 episodes finished ahead of what's been aired, and sometimes even less of a buffer. Bloody stupid system really and one that the cable channels like HBO have very sensibly ditched.

[Wolfshade]

Well the Christmas break is over, there seems a significant gap between the season restarting stateside and it restarting here. Unlike when it began.

[eldargal]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BesZYImCIAEBymC.jpg

[eldargal]

Ming Na Wen is awesome:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/8a0ad12e2912be8848be62a462a29a9f/tumblr_mw5p5mWd9G1su6zr6o1_400.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/fac3a60987ab47a0c7d9e10fac121ddd/tumblr_mw5p5mWd9G1su6zr6o2_400.gif

Also, the latest episode of SHIELD is easily the best yet, will be airing here April 11th I think. No I didn't pirate it.:p

[Wolfshade]

The last couple have been quite fantqastic dealing with Colson's recovery.

[Mr Mystery]

Indeed.

Seems to have found it's feet at last. Rollicking along at a most pleasing pace!

[Darren Richardson]

so looking forward to tonights episode, poor Skye.....

And yeah Agent May's Actress is Awesome :)

[eldargal]

Yeah the two parter with Skye was great.

[Darren Richardson]

Damn was that a Kree in that glass coffinlike dohickey?

wow this series really is shaping up nicely.....

Lokking forward to Lady Sif next week....

[eldargal]

There has been fan speculation that it is leading up to introducing Carol Danvers (the whole kree thing) before having her appear in Avengers 2 (maybe) and then getting her own film. Not sure I believe that but who knows.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

What I know is that I hate how obvious the series badguy was.
No Spoilers obviously, but come on!

[eldargal]

I'm not familiar enough with the Marvel setting to have picked up on it.:) Minor spoilers maybe:

Seen people on tumblr saying it's Loki but that's tumblr for you lol. Though with Lorelei it's interesting that Sif says 'Odin demands she be returned alive' and Odin has been replaced by Loki.

[Darren Richardson]

oh Lorelei, I'd so willingt serve her for the rest of my life...

Yes I am weak minded :D

Seriously though, yeah EG that is one interesting plot point....

Just one thing though is Lorelei the character from the comics known as The Enchanteress? (sp?)

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What I know is that I hate how obvious the series badguy was.
No Spoilers obviously, but come on!

Yeah I know, some dudes in Shield itself are the Bad Guys, Hail Hydra and all that.... Thank's Captain America for spoiling the series for us with that big spoiler! :D

Still it will be interesting who is Hydra and who isn't, I know two who have appeared in the show most certainly are in cahoots with Hydra....

[Dlatrex]

Lorelei (http://marvel.com/universe/Lorelei_%28Asgardian%29) is the younger sister of The Enchantress (essentially the baby Amora).

What is the most recent episode to be shown in the UK?

Myself, I am very pleased with the amount of cross over they are allowing both the characters of TV and Film. This week looks promising as well!

[Wolfshade]

episode 15.

We were a few episodes behind then the Christmas break came and for some reason we had a much larger gap than in the states

[Darren Richardson]

yeah the episode with Lorelei was just aired on Friday past...

[Wolfshade]

Caught it on catch-up last night.

[Wildeybeast]

We were held back so they could do a straight run for the rest of the series without any other breaks. I guess there must have been more breaks in the series in America. Silly Americans.

[Wolfshade]

We were held back so they could do a straight run for the rest of the series without any other breaks. I guess there must have been more breaks in the series in America. Silly Americans.

What have the dutch to do with this?

[Dlatrex]

Yeah, they skipped a week or two here and there to avoid competition with sports or "How I met your Mother". It looks like April is uninterrupted. Coming up on Episode 18 ;-)

[eldargal]

I've been watching it on the official website, legally keeping up with 'mericans through the wonders of proxies.:rolleyes: The latest episode was amaze.

[Dlatrex]

To quote Bob Peck
"...clever girl."

Any show that is ambitious like this I always want to give a full season for it just to get its bearings and figure out what it wants to be. Over the course of this season I have been very very pleased at the development and direction they have been able to grow the show. Heck even the directing in a some episodes was far above what we usually get from an action/scifi series. Let's hope it keeps it up!

[Mr Mystery]

It's feet have most definitely been found post season break.

Really quite gripping now!

[Wildeybeast]

Does anyone know why the Hydra symbol is an octopus and not, y'know, a hydra?

[Darren Richardson]

Does anyone know why the Hydra symbol is an octopus and not, y'know, a hydra?

Nope no idea, I don't think they've ever explained why the logo looks like that, because I can't find anything on their website, only mention's they are named after the mythilogical serpent like beast and that's it.

Yea 500th post!

Woot!

[Wolfshade]

Having spent possibly far too long investigating this there are a couple of reasons that have been suggested.

1. (Personal favourite) Rule of Cool, plus looks better than an H.
2. The Hydra is actually a mythilogical version of an Octopus
3. This cartoon:
http://i.imgur.com/3MJFT28.png
So the legs re-grow hence one head many legs.
4.Original cartoonist confused Hydra with a member of Octopoda

Fun fact #1: A 6 legged octopus, is called an hexapus

Fun fact #2: Octopus is from the latinised greek for 8 footed

Fun fact #3: The plural of octopus should be octopodes (because of the greek root )

[Tyrendian]

or maybe because the Alpha Legion didn't want its time travellers to get their cover blown by us? :D

[Mr Mystery]

Man, I am peeved.

Joined the Agents of SHIELD Facebook page.

Nowt said it was the US one. SPOILERIFIC! Gits.

[Wolfshade]

Purge them with fire?

[Mr Mystery]

It seems the most reasonable response.

[Darren Richardson]

maybe it's those pesky Hydra agents leaking false information?

Seriously though the recent episode in the UK was a nice tie in to Captain America Winter Solider, which I finally watched this weekend...

Film spoiler below:








I guess the signal was sent by Councilman Peirce (tratior scum!) when he was messing about with his phone of death after killing the council..... it would seem to tie in with the episodes time frame.

very clever....

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hey I just realised the quips between culson and the tratior Garret was an injoke to that very gaffe in that very comic strip's end frame!

[Wolfshade]

Huzzah!

[Darren Richardson]

Another neat tie in to the series featured in Cap 2 was Nick Fury and the Maria Hill using Fitz's melta thingimajigs...

[Wildeybeast]

Having spent possibly far too long investigating this there are a couple of reasons that have been suggested.

1. (Personal favourite) Rule of Cool, plus looks better than an H.
2. The Hydra is actually a mythilogical version of an Octopus
3. This cartoon:
http://i.imgur.com/3MJFT28.png
So the legs re-grow hence one head many legs.
4.Original cartoonist confused Hydra with a member of Octopoda

Fun fact #1: A 6 legged octopus, is called an hexapus

Fun fact #2: Octopus is from the latinised greek for 8 footed

Fun fact #3: The plural of octopus should be octopodes (because of the greek root )

But, that's still wrong. Everyone knows it was the Hydra's heads that grew back, not it's limbs. So we have a top secret terrorist organisation that has named itself after a mythical beast that it has confused with some sort of regenerating octopus?

[Chronowraith]

It should be noted that some scholars believe that the lernean hydra was a mythologized version of an octopus. This is in dsipute as many scholars agree that octopus as a species have been known and understood at a basic level since the time of Minoans (from a western perspective).

Also a possibility is that the octopus is a many limbed creature, that just like the mythical hydra, can regrow lost limbs

[Wildeybeast]

So why not just call it octopus then?

[Chronowraith]

So why not just call it octopus then?

OCTOPUS doesn't sound anywhere near as menacing as HYDRA... and many people don't know that an octopus can regenerate limbs so that reference goes out the window.

Truth be told, I've never understood why most villain organizations do what they do.

Look at AIM... a secret organization of super-smart scientists (and their henchmen) bent on world domination/anarchy that is so secret... they clad EVERYONE in yellow radiation suits so as to blend into society better... err... what?!?

[Wolfshade]

But, that's still wrong. Everyone knows it was the Hydra's heads that grew back, not it's limbs. So we have a top secret terrorist organisation that has named itself after a mythical beast that it has confused with some sort of regenerating octopus?

Maybe that is part of the super secret-ness!

Superhero(ine) : Stop! Evil doer you work for HYDRA
Evildoer(ess) : Hu? No, look this is an hexapus not a hydra. It has one head and many legs.
Superhero(ine) : But HYDRA, cut of one head and another grows back!
Evildoer(ess) : But this is an octopus, cut of it's head and it dies.
Superhero(ine) : Oh, ok. Carry on citizen.
Evildoer(ess) : [muted] jackass

[Darren Richardson]

yeah it's confusing I know, but at least they poked fun at that in the series :D

[DrLove42]

I'm slightly ahead of British tv, but behind the US. Its getting so good,

[eldargal]

I'm caught up with the US, it really is getting very good.

[Chronowraith]

Last nights episode was great... I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I love how they tie together what happens in the Marvel Universe movies with the TV show (and I'm super glad I saw Captain America before I saw the next weeks Agents of Shield).

[eldargal]

Yeah it spoils the hell out of Cap'n America 2.

[DWest]

Speaking of Agents and Cap 2, there's a big "crowd reaction" scene late in the movie when the reveal is made, and they zoom in on one person in the middle of a rotunda, was that actually Simmons? I thought it was, but not sure.

[daboarder]

Wow, so finally saw the winter soldier.....WOW!!!! guess Ill start watching shield again

[Chronowraith]

Winter Soldier is probably the best of the Marvel movies to date. I'd argue it's even better than The Avengers.

I'm glad that the show has regained focus. It was quickly turning into a more quirky and childish version of The X-Files.

[eldargal]

I don't think it quite trumps the Avengers personally, on account of Avengers having both Loki AND Black Widow but it is certainly a close second.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

It has really rounded as a show.
As an aside have you guys seen the 4 shorts that bridge S.H.I.E.L.D (in general, not the series) and the avengers movie?
They're AWESOME!

[eldargal]

The One Shots on the blu rays?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

Yeah, they make me SO happy!
ESP "On the way to thor's hammer"

[eldargal]

Hehe yeah that one is great. Though none are better than Agent Carter.:p

[Kaptain Badrukk]

The carter one is my 3rd fave of (now 5 I realise).
In order
"Thor's Hammer" Finally get to see Phil takin names!
"Hail to The King" More Trevor!!!!!
"Carter" For "Scream for Help."
"Item 47" For the bit in the credits
"The consultant" re-used footage, BOOO!

[eldargal]

For me:

Carter
Thors Hammer (Hur)
Hail to The King
Item 47 (boo, Sitwell, boo)

Don't remember the consultant which isn't a good sign.

[Kaptain Badrukk]

It's basically Sitwell and Phil trying to keep Abomination of the Avengers roster.

[DrLove42]

Just seen on the BBC. Shield has been confirmed for a 2nd series


Also a new TV show based around Agent Carter. That should be awesome

[Mr Mystery]

I said about that in the Off Topicening thread.

But yay all the same!

One Shots?

Hail To The King, Carter, Item 47, Thor's Hammer, The consultant.

So pretty much the order they've been released in. I know. I'm odd.

[Mr Mystery]

Loving the penultimate episode!

[DrLove42]

Final Episode time! Argh!!!

[Mr Mystery]

That was brill!

Shall have to binge the entire season soon!

[eldargal]

Watched the finale? Good innit.:p

Still miffed about Victoria Hand though, hoping it was a Life Model Decoy that died and not the real one.

[Mr Mystery]

True.

But, you never know.

I mean, the little fat bloke they met? Twin? Clone? LMD?

[Kaptain Badrukk]

True.

But, you never know.

I mean, the little fat bloke they met? Twin? Clone? LMD?

I'm voting for perpetual.

[eldargal]

I'm going with bizarre coincidence for lulz.

[Darren Richardson]

I love some of the one liners especially Phil's after this...

John Garrett: There's a reason why they say, "cut off the head." Now I'll be unstop...

[gets vaporized by Coulson]

Phil Coulson: Hey, guys! I found it. Told you it'd be in here

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True.

But, you never know.

I mean, the little fat bloke they met? Twin? Clone? LMD?

it's been hinted in various online articles and interviews he may be a LMD designed solely to man Fury's secret refuge bases...

And supposedly there are also refrences to S.W.O.R.D thrown in towards the end episodes as well...

Which would be really good if it's true as it's a sign that they may be folding some elements of the X-men universe into the main Marvelverse....

Sword did after all first feature in in Astonishing X-Men, which just happened to be written by Joss Wheadon himself....

[Wolfshade]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/thumbnail_570x321/2014/08/adrianne_palicki_mockingbird_a_l.jpg

Adrianne Palicki has been tapped to guest-star as Marvel superspy Bobbi Morse aka Mockingbird, Palicki's character will appear in the fifth episode of the Marvel procedural with the potential to return; the episode will find her popping in perhaps not as an ally to Coulson (Clark Gregg) and his team

[Mr Mystery]

Sounds good to me.

Man I am excite!

[Darren Richardson]

Man I am soooooo stoked for the new season not only are we getting "Hero" Mockingbird in the show, we're getting more Comic baddies such as Crusher Creel the Absorbing Man, and Lucy Lawless of Xena fame is making an apperance as an agent, can't wait!

[eldargal]

Hope they don't fridge her like they did Victoria Hand.

[Mr Mystery]

Huzzah! Channel 4 confirm they will air Season 2.

Also, seems we're getting at least a flasback....

http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/8/82//agents_6.jpg

I suspect this is to tie in with Agent Peggy Carter, apparently coming later in the year too.

It's a great time to be a geek, and MAKE MINE MARVEL!

[Wolfshade]

I am hoping C4 do a re-run of the first series

[eldargal]

Watched the first episode of season two (legally, has it been on teevee here yet?) last night and it was pretty good, annoyed by what happened to a certain character but I can't be bothered grumbling about that right and I suspect it isn't permanent. Lots of feels with Fitz. The flashback was nice if short.

[daboarder]

Watched the first episode of season two (legally, has it been on teevee here yet?) last night and it was pretty good, annoyed by what happened to a certain character but I can't be bothered grumbling about that right and I suspect it isn't permanent. Lots of feels with Fitz. The flashback was nice if short.

Keep watching EG, keep watching ;)

[eldargal]

I shall watch some more this eveningwhen my cousins get home from school.:)

[YorkNecromancer]

The latest episodes have been superlative; love the fact that Ward is possibly the creepiest villain in the entire MCU. Even more so because he hid in plain sight all the way through season 1 (on account of typical superspy heroes act an awful lot like real-world psychopaths. http://www.8cn.tv/content/shields-biggest-twist-didnt-have-anything-do-hydra Way to exploit the tropes Marvel!). Really liking how broken everyone has become and the fact Hydra now feel like a serious, legitmate threat.

I have a horrible feeling Simmons is going to turn into a very serious Big Bad and it's going to be utterly tragic to watch. :(

[Houghten]

I read "Ward is the creepiest villain" in the New Posts thing and it took me a moment to twig you weren't talking about Matt...

[daboarder]

So I don't know if anyone watches this still (I do, love it) But some SERIOUS spoilers dropped this week.















































































Coulson winds up face to face with skyes dad

Ward gets revenge on his family and then goes to work with whitehall and skye's dad

And Dun Dun DUN!.....whitehall killed skye's mother

[Darren Richardson]

Yeah still watching it on 4oD, but they only showed Ep 5 tonight, so thanks for the spoilers :angry face:

[daboarder]

oooh sorry, I shoulld have put more space up after the warning, I'll fix that now

[Mr Mystery]

Season 2 has resumed....and it's pretty damned good!

[eldargal]

Yup.

[Mr Mystery]

Wonder when Agent Carter is coming to DVD?

[eldargal]

Not seen any listings for it yet.

[Darren Richardson]

yep watched it last night as soon as I got home from work, picked up really quickly, and damn Simmions is starting to scare me......

I chuckled when they tricked the Hydra heads into bumping each other off.....

[Wolfshade]

You know I've still not managed to watch any of this series yet :S

[Mr Mystery]

Lady Sif!!!!!!

[Darren Richardson]

kicking butts again, though in fairness, getting her's kicked too....

Poor Daisy/Skye

[Darren Richardson]

Just finished watching this weeks AoS......

Holy Crap TWO SHIELD agencies!

[Darren Richardson]

So, has anyone acutally watched Season 3 at all, I have and I have to say, it's been going from strength to strength, paving the way for more superpowered people for the films, and damned if they sneak in a sly nod at the X-Men in the mid season..... that name on a containment unit was sly.....

[eldargal]

I was really disappointed in it to be honest. Though Chloe Bennett certainly did an amazing job this season, justifying the decision to centre the show around her.

[Mr Mystery]

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/6/65/Funnybot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151101191751

And now for the context of Funnybot.

Funnybot deployed to confuse spambot.

Spambot neutralised and comment removed.

Funnybot now serves no purpose.

AWKWARD.