Mormon adverts

[Wildeybeast]

Anyone else have adverts for Mormonism on BoLS? I'm racking my brains as to what sites I could have possibly visited to trigger those.

On a broader issue, does advertising religion ever work, I wonder? How many people find themselves thinking 'I've been thinking of trying a new religion, maybe this is the one for me'.

[Mr Mystery]

I keep getting Russian and Chinese Brides advertised, and most peculiarly, Muslim dating.....

And now, 'Feed America, $1 = 8 meals'.

I think they're quite fat enough, thank you very much.

[Wildeybeast]

It's rare I lol at something, but that just got me doing it. Well played Mystery.

[Wolfshade]

I get B&Q lawnmowevers, that was because I am in the market for one.

[Psychosplodge]

I get none. sorry. except the single spikeybits one there =>

[Kirsten]

models, swords, tanks, and dating for me

[Godless Zealot]

Yup I have the mormon advert in the sidebar as well as spikeybits and dating. (How do they know I'm single? :confused:)

[DeadPanda]

Legoland, Centre Parcs and Sainsburys. They know I have kids and where I shop. *******s.

[lobster-overlord]

To the comment about advertising working for religion, L Ron Hubbard used to advertise his books which led people to discover scientology (if you count that as a religion) which worked for him to pad his pocket book.

[Necron2.0]

Naw, nothing Mormon for me. I keep getting adverts for K-Y Jelly, Cialis, something called "thedominatrixstore.com" and furry dating sites.

I simply must stop letting my wife use my computer.

[Mr Mystery]

Now I keep getting adverts about Forests. Including one where a bear (Smokey I think, if my pop culture is up to snuff) telling me 'only I can prevent Forest Fires'.

Which is all fine and well. But, the Leprechaun tell me 'burn them anyway'.

Officially in a moral quandary. I know the bear means well, is possibly in the right..... But I've known the Leprechaun longer, and he does know how to have a laugh....

[White Tiger88]

Naw, nothing Mormon for me. I keep getting adverts for K-Y Jelly, Cialis, something called "thedominatrixstore.com" and furry dating sites.

I simply must stop letting my wife use my computer.

Sure... your wife >_>

*cough*

Anyhow this is the reason i use an add blocker -_-

[Psychosplodge]

Now I keep getting adverts about Forests. Including one where a bear (Smokey I think, if my pop culture is up to snuff) telling me 'only I can prevent Forest Fires'.

Which is all fine and well. But, the Leprechaun tell me 'burn them anyway'.

Officially in a moral quandary. I know the bear means well, is possibly in the right..... But I've known the Leprechaun longer, and he does know how to have a laugh....

Listen to the leprechaun, he let's you do the manly thing of playing with fire.

[DrLove42]

Right now I'm on work computer. Lots of adverts for Sky broadband and a hotel in Hong Kong...

[Wolfshade]

Work has Sky & EDF energy curious

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah still none on the work laptop...

[Wildeybeast]

Yup I have the mormon advert in the sidebar as well as spikeybits and dating. (How do they know I'm single? :confused:)

The Mormons know all.


To the comment about advertising working for religion, L Ron Hubbard used to advertise his books which led people to discover scientology (if you count that as a religion) which worked for him to pad his pocket book.

Since Scientology was just a much easier way for him to make a stack of money, we don't count it as a religion.

[Necron2.0]

Actually, the real adverts I get are quite dull. Spikey Bits, of course, but beyond that it's either something for Chrysler, for investing or for insurance.

<*sigh*>

No industrial strength whip cracking leather goddesses for me, I'm afraid.

[Kirsten]

No industrial strength whip cracking leather goddesses for me, I'm afraid.

I haven't had any of those either, gutted

[Psychosplodge]

Since Scientology was just a much easier way for him to make a stack of money, we don't count it as a religion.

Wasn't it ruled a cult in this country? and not a religion?

[Mr Mystery]

Think you're thinking of Germany? 99% sure it's those crafty crafty Germans!

[Wildeybeast]

Sort of. There is no such thing as 'official cult status' but it did fail the religion test as to be officially recognised as a religion you have to have charity status and they fail the charity test as you have to pay to be a member. There was no official recognition of what they are, so whether they are a cult, club or secret society is entirely up for debate. As I understand they do qualify as a religion in the USA, though I'm unsure how they classify things as religions.

[Psychosplodge]

ah possibly, I may be thinking of their application for charitable status being rejected.

[Mr Mystery]

Was widely reported as being 'officially a cult'. But that could well be the lazy standard of sensationalist journalism we're subjected to.

[Godless Zealot]

Don't Mormons too have to pay to be a member? There is a small Mormon community near where I live and they did try to proselytise me once in the street. Thoroughly nice, well dressed chaps too and their Christianity-lite seemed slightly more favourable to a skeptic like me. Apparently after the Rapture I'm more likely to be just left wandering the Earth than tossed into the flaming pits of Hell. :D

[Psychosplodge]

. Apparently after the Rapture I'm more likely to be just left wandering the Earth than tossed into the flaming pits of Hell. :D

And that's different to life how?

[Wildeybeast]

Lazy reporting. There is no official 'cult', it's just a common descriptor for certain groups. They are legally classed as not-for-profit body, but that covers a fairly broad range of organisations.

[Godless Zealot]

And that's different to life how?

Well a bit cooler at least, I don't like the heat.

[Mr Mystery]

Lazy reporting. There is no official 'cult', it's just a common descriptor for certain groups. They are legally classed as not-for-profit body, but that covers a fairly broad range of organisations.

I work for one :) but you don't have to pay us.

[Wildeybeast]

But will you fix all the problems in my life through the ancient science of dianetics?

[Brakkart]

Hmm right now my adverts are for Christian Aid to help save Bolivian farmers and Investec Test Cricket series. I'm not remotely religious and there are few sports I loathe more than cricket. I guess my shopping and browsing habits are safe then.

[eldargal]

I get ads for games stores, 'find a female' dating pags and 18+ MMOs .:rolleyes:

[Kirsten]

yeah I get those, I keep being encouraged to date 10,000 chinese ladies, which just sounds like more hassle than it is worth, I'd never get anything done.

[Wolfshade]

Amazon Advert: Wisden's Cricketers Almanac 2013; 150th Edition.

I think my ads are winning.

[eldargal]

yeah I get those, I keep being encouraged to date 10,000 chinese ladies, which just sounds like more hassle than it is worth, I'd never get anything done.
Gosh, all my ads feature caucasians and not in those numbers. :( Google Ads saying I'm racist and lack stamina?

[Wolfshade]

Gosh, all my ads feature caucasians and not in those numbers. :( Google Ads saying I'm racist and lack stamina?

Have you considered voting UKIP or Labour?

[eldargal]

Nope, apolitical unless a guvmint needs removing.

[Necron2.0]

But will you fix all the problems in my life through the ancient science of dianetics?

I fix all my problems with the ancient and applied science of alcohol.


[EDIT]: Ooooh! Earn 40,000 bonus points with a new "Chase Sapphire Preferred" card!!! 'Course, I'm probably getting that ad because I DON'T use the cards I already have.

[Wolfshade]

What is this chase sapphire prefeered card?

[Chris*ta]

I use to think I didn't get any weird ads, and the I look over and see this ...
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/simgad/14081338223923697196

and this ...
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/simgad/18414715658493586275

I have absolutely no idea where this came from ...

[Psychosplodge]

I'm assuming my adblocker is blocking those. What are they for?

[Wolfshade]

How does a Jew make tea/beer?

Hebrews it

[Mr Mystery]

You make that less racist by asking it about an Israeli....

[Wolfshade]

You make that less racist by asking it about an Israeli....

It's ok I read the Daily Mail, I know racism.

Or alteratively, this was a joke told to me by while I was at the synagogue...

[Chris*ta]

I'm assuming my adblocker is blocking those. What are they for?

Umm, I think BoLS makes money if someone clicks on them, but I'm not sure ...

[Kirsten]

I now have the '$1=8 meals' ad, is this a campaign to target American obesity?

[Psychosplodge]

Umm, I think BoLS makes money if someone clicks on them, but I'm not sure ...

Well considering I wouldn't click on them anyway...

[Necron2.0]

It's ok I read the Daily Mail, I know racism.

Or alteratively, this was a joke told to me by while I was at the synagogue...

The version I'd heard would probably be classified as misogynistic rather than racist:

Why could only the men make the coffee for after service fellowship?
Clearly doth the Bible say, "HEbrews."

[Chris*ta]

The version I'd heard would probably be classified as misogynistic rather than racist:

Hey! Why can't it be both? ;)

[Psychosplodge]

Just because it's referencing someones race/religion doesn't make it racist. It's not not criticising or victimising, in this case it's just punning off a language spoken mostly by jews... To call it racist is a bit PC too far don't you think?

[Wolfshade]

Here is the rub are teh Jews a race of people or the followers of a specific religion?

[Psychosplodge]

Both apparently?

[Kirsten]

I have a friend who claims she can't eat pork because she is jewish, but she doesn't actually believe in god or observe any jewish practices...

[Psychosplodge]

O_o
Surely that's a religious observance? Like all those muslims you don't see out getting pissed at the weekend...

[Wolfshade]

O_o
Surely that's a religious observance? Like all those muslims you don't see out getting pissed at the weekend...

One of the chaps I used to play rugby with was a muslim, and during ramadam he would fast then as soon as the sun set he would have a cigarette and a can of lager, it seems he was doing it wrong.

(Some) Orthodox only believe you are a Jew is you are born from a Jewish woman, others accept conversions to the faith

[Kirsten]

O_o
Surely that's a religious observance? Like all those muslims you don't see out getting pissed at the weekend...

it is forever being pointed out to her that she can eat whatever she likes and she always says no no I am jewish and can't. she has never been anywhere near Israel, her father is a lapsed jew or something. I think she is just trying to show off personally

[Mr Mystery]

Just because it's referencing someones race/religion doesn't make it racist. It's not not criticising or victimising, in this case it's just punning off a language spoken mostly by jews... To call it racist is a bit PC too far don't you think?

Re-reading...should have popped a smiley in there somewhere.

I don't really consider it racialist in the least.

[Psychosplodge]

It's so difficult with you loony lefties :D

[Mr Mystery]

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4910703411135312&pid=1.7&w=141&h=155&c=7&rs=1

[Psychosplodge]

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4910703411135312&pid=1.7&w=141&h=155&c=7&rs=1

Not surprised looking like that...

[Mr Mystery]

To be fair, I think Mick looks like on account of 'Well I always' rather than never.

The spawny git!

[Psychosplodge]

possibly.
Proof that being in a band gets women into bed...
Either that or his charming personality...

[Chris*ta]

I assumed he looked like that because of all the booze and drugs ...

[Mr Mystery]

possibly.
Proof that being in a band gets women into bed...
Either that or his charming personality...

And the scads and scad of cash he'll have floating around.

[Psychosplodge]

That would be very shallow of all the twenty something model types he associates with...

[Wolfshade]

It does amuse me how his accent has changed from the start to now, he was made it, very east end working class, instead of his original accent which was much more readily associated with the affluent upper class,

[Mr Mystery]

Though given the time he hit fame, it's hard to say which might be the affectation.... I mean, that was still in the 'Air Hair Lair' greeting of the BBC, which regional accents simply didn't exist.

[Wolfshade]

Where is it. Ah ha!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22183566

[Wildeybeast]

Ooh, an RE question. Jews are a race of people. Judaism is a religion. The two were originally one and the same, but times change. Not all Jews follow the religion or even believe in God, though they often carry out customs and festivals associated with the religion. I know of at least one Jew who is openly agnostic and doubts the Exodus ever happened but still celebrates Passover, in much the same way secular people celebrate Christmas. It is possible for non-Jews to covert to the religion, though clearly not the race (you can of course marry into it and therefore make your children Jewish).

[Wolfshade]

Though some Orthodox do not allow converts, or at least recognises them.

[Psychosplodge]

So if an orthadox man was to marry a gentile woman, his children wouldn't be Jewish in his eyes?

[Wolfshade]

No the Jewishiosity is passed through the mother...

[White Tiger88]

No the Jewishiosity is passed through the mother...

Ok so...you have found a topic im not touching with a 100 foot poll as i value my life......... Also it depends which guide you use in all honesty anyone can be any religion they choose at any time.......

(Crap i just touched it)

[Wolfshade]

Ok so...you have found a topic im not touching with a 100 foot poll as i value my life......... Also it depends which guide you use in all honesty anyone can be any religion they choose at any time.......

(Crap i just touched it)

You can claim to be, but it is another matter if you are accepted, and by whom within it.

[White Tiger88]

You can claim to be, but it is another matter if you are accepted, and by whom within it.

OR you can just be the normal whack job who run's around with a bible.

[Wolfshade]

OR you can just be the normal whack job who run's around with a bible.

I'd rather be a "whack job" who runs around with a bible then take such a pioneering approach to apostrophes...

[Chris*ta]

I'd rather be a "whack job" who runs around with a bible then take such a pioneering approach to apostrophes...

Punctuation burn!!!

[Kirsten]

now I am getting adverts for cougars. I am not that old.

also my 'date 10,000 Chinese ladies' ad is now 'date 12,000 Chinese ladies'

my reputation is spreading...

[Wildeybeast]

Are the cougar adverts not trying to get you to date one, rather than recruit you as one?

[Kirsten]

no it says 'meet attractive young men' so it fails on two counts.

[Wildeybeast]

Ah. I get junk mail from Saga every so often.

[Necron2.0]

I'd rather be a "whack job" who runs around with a bible then take such a pioneering approach to apostrophes...

When it comes to being a "whack job," I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
;)

[Wolfshade]

no it says 'meet attractive young men' so it fails on two counts.

Unless it things you should be a erm "Hag" I believe the correct word is.
One of my firends is, she collects young gay men. I am unsure for what purpose...

[Psychosplodge]

Unless it things you should be a erm "Hag" I believe the correct word is.
One of my firends is, she collects young gay men. I am unsure for what purpose...

Maybe she's trying to breed them...

[Mr Mystery]

Bah! Now they're trying to flog me the Book of Mormon.

Dumbdumbdumbdumbdumb!

[Mr Mystery]

Oh, it's a new one!

'Dop you want to send money to India?'

No, not really, no. Come to think of it, I'm not terribly convinced my government should be sending money to India.

[Wolfshade]

Oh, it's a new one!

'Dop you want to send money to India?'

No, not really, no. Come to think of it, I'm not terribly convinced my government should be sending money to India.

I don't think you are the only one. I think the only people who are in favour of it are in Westminster...

[Mr Mystery]

And that's from a lefty.

I believe International Aid does have a place. But with a developed country? Not really sure. It's not our business to ensure the poorest are fed, that would be their Governments job.

Now don't get me wrong....disaster relief? Hells. Yes. Currently still third world countries? If the UK had a hand in screwing them up (quite likely) Hell. Yes. Everyone else can go and get stuffed.

[Kirsten]

personally I would keep disaster aid and scrap international aid altogether, like a lot of charity it does more harm than good. hundreds of millions go to Pakistan and people there are pleading with the west to stop sending it, because the government ministers keep it all for themselves. they don't want the country to improve, because if I did they wouldn't get a free fortune to live like kings.

[Wolfshade]

The India situation is strange, given the that the country has a large, more rapidly growing economy and indeed has more millionaires per head than the UK. Which when you consider how much more populous the country is compared with the UK, you see that there is a huge wealth gap which their governement does not address, does not want to address and is quite happy to sit back and let us pay for it.

This is the same country, to which we are giving aid, that is currently persuing a multi-billion £ space programme...

[Mr Mystery]

Yup. Besides. We have our own wealth gap to address.

Think what you like about the cuts, but making them, and dishing out money to other countries, on a regular (non-relief) basis just makes no bloody sense.

It's a bit like me, at the age of very nearly 33, getting regular money from my Parents, just because. No questions asked, standing order straight into my account, even though I'm more than capable of standing on my own two feet.

Kirsten - Pakistan is a very good example. We send them aid. They sit on it. For largely understandable reasons, many in Pakistan don't really like us much, on account we just keep interfering. No doubt they'll be claiming we're buying off their Government with our 'aid'.....

[Kirsten]

I have long refused to donate to any of these 'just three pounds a month' type charities too, there was a very good article about them a few weeks ago by a woman who set up her own charity after being a senior bigwig in Oxfam. she said before you donate you should always find out what the long term goals are, how the charity will know they have achieved their goal, and when they will stop taking your money. these ones that simply take it every month indefinitely achieve nothing whatsoever.

[Mr Mystery]

I have long refused to donate to any of these 'just three pounds a month' type charities too, there was a very good article about them a few weeks ago by a woman who set up her own charity after being a senior bigwig in Oxfam. she said before you donate you should always find out what the long term goals are, how the charity will know they have achieved their goal, and when they will stop taking your money. these ones that simply take it every month indefinitely achieve nothing whatsoever.

Indeed. You can tell my family are lefties, on account one year my Mum's christmas present to Dad was a goat had been bought for an African village on his behalf. Now that sort of charity I can get behind. Livestock isn't massively expensive to procure, it's the keeping and feeding of the beast that's the challenge. I'd quite happily do that every month if I could afford it. That way even if they're just receiving beast, slaughter beast, eat beast...well, I'm still doing some direct good.

Also...those £3 a month yadda ones....have a look at the small print. There's one out there for mosqutio nets. Practical I thought. And only a fiver a pop. Fair do's....but then...the rest of it. The much dreaded 'small for a reason' small print... In which is was revealed my donation may not in fact pay for a mosquito net, but something else. Yeah. I didn't donate.

[Kirsten]

the only charities I donate to are fairly direct, like there is a decompression chamber on the island for divers that the government stopped funding, so it became a charity. saves lives every year, all money donated simply keeps it functioning, no other costs. or the guy in England that loads his artic truck up with goods like tools, blankets etc. drives it to a village in Africa, and hands stuff out to people in person, that is worthwhile.

[Mr Mystery]

In happier news, I keep getting a 'Wowcher' one. You know, that paid-for discounts service which is of absolutley no use to men? Yeah, that one.

Anyways. It features a very stunning redhead. She is making my eyes happy.

ALL YOUR REDHEADS ARE BELONG TO ME!

[Wolfshade]

I have long refused to donate to any of these 'just three pounds a month' type charities too, there was a very good article about them a few weeks ago by a woman who set up her own charity after being a senior bigwig in Oxfam. she said before you donate you should always find out what the long term goals are, how the charity will know they have achieved their goal, and when they will stop taking your money. these ones that simply take it every month indefinitely achieve nothing whatsoever.

Yes, i recall reading that somewhere and it is true.
Most people would be familiar with the old adage, that there is no use throwing good money after bad. Yet, how often do we see appeals for this that and the other. There needs to be an exit strategy, and I am afraid that a lot of these very large charities remit is so vague that they will not know when they have achieved what they set out to do, nor will they understand how to make actual sustaniable change, though I suppose those who work for these charities and make money from them do not wish their to be a final goal as that would effect their bottom line.

You should donate to my charity.
It has a defined long term goal, a clear metric for seeing if this has been achieved, I know what monies are required and over what period, PM for more details :)

[Kirsten]

those adverts are very annoying on tv. the company was prosecuted fairly recently because their ad was very misleading about the level of discount or some such

[Kirsten]

Yes, i recall reading that somewhere and it is true.
Most people would be familiar with the old adage, that there is no use throwing good money after bad. Yet, how often do we see appeals for this that and the other. There needs to be an exit strategy, and I am afraid that a lot of these very large charities remit is so vague that they will not know when they have achieved what they set out to do, nor will they understand how to make actual sustaniable change, though I suppose those who work for these charities and make money from them do not wish their to be a final goal as that would effect their bottom line.

You should donate to my charity.
It has a defined long term goal, a clear metric for seeing if this has been achieved, I know what monies are required and over what period, PM for more details :)

a friend of my dad's was a charity inspector sort of person, not checking up on the charities themselves, but checking up on what their aid was actually achieving. he visited an African village where the people had been taught how to farm, given the tools and seed, and had grown a good wheat crop and were looking well set. two years later he went back there and the farms were all in ruin, and the people were starving again. when he asked what went wrong, fearing some attack or similar, the people said that in fact because they had had enough food last year from the original crop, they just hadn't bothered planting any more.

[Psychosplodge]

You should donate to my charity.
It has a defined long term goal, a clear metric for seeing if this has been achieved, I know what monies are required and over what period, PM for more details :)

Would it be considered funding the arts?

[Wolfshade]

a friend of my dad's was a charity inspector sort of person, not checking up on the charities themselves, but checking up on what their aid was actually achieving. he visited an African village where the people had been taught how to farm, given the tools and seed, and had grown a good wheat crop and were looking well set. two years later he went back there and the farms were all in ruin, and the people were starving again. when he asked what went wrong, fearing some attack or similar, the people said that in fact because they had had enough food last year from the original crop, they just hadn't bothered planting any more.

See farming in africa needs people who know what they are doing.
Zimbabwe before Mugabe was the "bread basket of africa", being the largest exporter of food in the continent, then those tyranical farmers were kicked off their land and the farms were left in ruin as the workers who occupied them couldn't run them and they suddenly became in need of vast amounts of aid.
A bishop I know in Malawii taught the locals how to sustainably farm, as previously it was just intensive cotton farming as that got money and money could buy food.

[Wolfshade]

Would it be considered funding the arts?

It would indeed.

[Mr Mystery]

And now, lots of investment adverts, and going on about my pension.

Yes, I have a pension. No, I'm not over 55 yet, you cheeky sod.

[Wildeybeast]

Point 1) I'm pretty sure the government announced a year or so ago that they were scrapping all aid to India.
Point 2) We are buying off the government of Pakistan. We are doing so almost entirely to prevent their 'democratic' government being replaced by the likes of the Taliban. A nuclear state falling into their hands of those loonies isn't really something anyone want to contemplate.
Point 3) I have monthly donations going out to a number of charities. Most of them are above aboard, you just need to check how much they spend on advertising and administration and most are pretty open about that. I bought my mum some mosquito nets for mothers day through Oxfam and they explicitly asked me whether I wanted the money to go directly to the nets or if I was happy for them to spend it as they saw fit, which I thought was pretty good of them.

[Psychosplodge]

Africa's a lost cause.
I'm sure I even saw a BBC report were one of the refugees was saying nothing was ever going to improve till they were left to get on with it themselves.
Think it was on the somalia border.

[Wildeybeast]

We either need to cut them off completely, or re-colonise. This half way house where we pump them with money and they piss it up the wall or use it to brutally murderise each other isn't getting us anywhere.

[Psychosplodge]

Well it certainly went down hill after we left.

[Chris*ta]

ALL YOUR REDHEADS ARE BELONG TO ME!
Ah well. :(

Not sure if I'm your type though :p

[Psychosplodge]

So facebook are avoiding the adblocker by putting "sponsored posts" in your News feed, what I don't understand is why all mine seem to be teacher and teaching related? I don't even think I've got any teachers on my friends list...

[Wolfshade]

Maybe you should be?

[Psychosplodge]

I haven't got the patience.