Lord Krungharr
04-14-2013, 09:20 PM
I'm trying to figure out a good 1723 point addition to Scabiethrax for the Adepticon Gladiator next Friday. I really think Scabiethrax kinda sucks for his points, but that's what I decided to build, so I must plunge forward! For those who have not heard of it, it's a 2500 point double FOC game, with a single Gargantuan Creature (or superheavy up to 4 Structure pts.) which takes up the entire second Primary Detachment.
Okay, my first idea was all Daemons of course, monster mash:
Bloodthirster/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
14 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
10 Daemonettes
Daemon Prince/Nurgle/Wings/Armor/Mastery 3
Daemon Prince/Khorne/Wings/Armor/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
Aegis/Comms Relay
My second idea, with some CSM Allies:
Bloodthirster/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
10 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
10 Daemonettes
CSM Daemon Prince/Wings/Armor/Nurgle/The Black Mace/Ichor Blood (extra 5 points)
10 Cultists
3 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
Aegis/Comms Relay
My third idea, more CSM Allies:
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3........OR.........Lord of Change/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Lesser/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
14 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
CSM Lord/Khorne/Juggernaut/Sigil/The AXE
CSM Lord/Nurgle/Bike/Sigil/The MACE/Combi-melta
10 Cultists
10 Cultists
5 Spawn
3 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
2 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
Aegis/Comms Relay
So what do people think? The Gladiator is such a no-holds barred smackdown style list parade, I don't plan on winning the thing, but I don't want to get eviscerated with ease every game either. So aside from big fatty poo-poo, I figure a bunch of cheapo scoring units that I can maybe keep off the board until Turn 4 might actually be useful. And I do like my Lords, and the Oblits can supply some sorely missed ranged firepower.
But is the third list too light on the Daemons? Am I thinking all wrong here? Perhaps the GUO is best replaced by the Lord of Change, because of the LOC's speed and combat effectiveness with his Staff of Change? I know I severely lack anti-air, but can Prescience on some Oblits help that out? Or should I go for the Icarus Lascannon and just chance the Troops' arrival? Or should I just go Monster Mash and hope for the best? That would certainly be fun for at least 1 Turn, as that may be all the game lasts with that list :)
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Okay, my first idea was all Daemons of course, monster mash:
Bloodthirster/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
14 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
10 Daemonettes
Daemon Prince/Nurgle/Wings/Armor/Mastery 3
Daemon Prince/Khorne/Wings/Armor/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
Aegis/Comms Relay
My second idea, with some CSM Allies:
Bloodthirster/2 Greaters/1 Lesser
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
10 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
10 Daemonettes
CSM Daemon Prince/Wings/Armor/Nurgle/The Black Mace/Ichor Blood (extra 5 points)
10 Cultists
3 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
Aegis/Comms Relay
My third idea, more CSM Allies:
GUO/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Greater/Mastery 3........OR.........Lord of Change/1 Exalted (Grimoire)/1 Lesser/Mastery 3
10 Plaguebearers
14 Plaguebearers
10 Horrors
10 Horrors
CSM Lord/Khorne/Juggernaut/Sigil/The AXE
CSM Lord/Nurgle/Bike/Sigil/The MACE/Combi-melta
10 Cultists
10 Cultists
5 Spawn
3 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
2 Obliterators/Nurgle/VOLTW
Aegis/Comms Relay
So what do people think? The Gladiator is such a no-holds barred smackdown style list parade, I don't plan on winning the thing, but I don't want to get eviscerated with ease every game either. So aside from big fatty poo-poo, I figure a bunch of cheapo scoring units that I can maybe keep off the board until Turn 4 might actually be useful. And I do like my Lords, and the Oblits can supply some sorely missed ranged firepower.
But is the third list too light on the Daemons? Am I thinking all wrong here? Perhaps the GUO is best replaced by the Lord of Change, because of the LOC's speed and combat effectiveness with his Staff of Change? I know I severely lack anti-air, but can Prescience on some Oblits help that out? Or should I go for the Icarus Lascannon and just chance the Troops' arrival? Or should I just go Monster Mash and hope for the best? That would certainly be fun for at least 1 Turn, as that may be all the game lasts with that list :)
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks!