Approximate WFB Release Schedule

[eldargal]

High Elves - May
Lizardmen - 3rd/4th quarter

Dark Elves*
Dwarves*

Wood Elves**
Bretonnians**
Skaven**

9th edition - 2015

*Order may change, 2014
** Maybe late 2014/15

[Mr Mystery]

Was expecting 9th Ed next year. Though I guess Hobbitty goodness can easily delay this.

[pgarfunkle]

Good to see both of my armies (Lizards and Wood Elves) pencilled in for the next few years but I'm of mixed opinions as to when I want them to hit. I'd rather the Elves sooner rather than later but for the Lizards I'm not sure how soon I'd like the new book. Sooner means I get new toys sooner but later means I can get other people to pay for them via xmas and birthday lol.

[Lunar Camel]

Bretonnians? They do exist!

[Brakkart]

If they keep up this relentless release schedule I will be very surprised if we only get 2 fantasy armies next year. With High Elves and Lizardmen we'll be at 4 for this year and 3 of those in the first 5 months. I wouldn't bet against there being another fantasy army this year for that matter at the rate we are seeing army books/codexes come out at.

No mention of Beastmen or Skaven? I find that a bit strange.

[eldargal]

Well it is possible we might see Dark Elves, Dwarves and Wood Elves next year, the actual dates aren't exactly set in stone.:)

[Wildeybeast]

Was expecting 9th Ed next year. Though I guess Hobbitty goodness can easily delay this.

Hobbit will be an end of year release to coincide with the movie and shouldn't affect the release of new editions (as 2012 demonstrated).


If they keep up this relentless release schedule I will be very surprised if we only get 2 fantasy armies next year. With High Elves and Lizardmen we'll be at 4 for this year and 3 of those in the first 5 months. I wouldn't bet against there being another fantasy army this year for that matter at the rate we are seeing army books/codexes come out at.

No mention of Beastmen or Skaven? I find that a bit strange.

I wouldn't be surprised, Warhammer is back to playing second fiddle to 40k again. :rolleyes:

I'm not to surprised about Skaven, they were the last book done in the previous edition, sell well and are very competitive under the current rules. Beastmen are a curious omission though. I'll still be amazed if we see WE under this rules set (unless it is a very late book written for 9th ed rules).

[Chronowraith]

Hobbit will be an end of year release to coincide with the movie and shouldn't affect the release of new editions (as 2012 demonstrated).



I wouldn't be surprised, Warhammer is back to playing second fiddle to 40k again. :rolleyes:

I'm not to surprised about Skaven, they were the last book done in the previous edition, sell well and are very competitive under the current rules. Beastmen are a curious omission though. I'll still be amazed if we see WE under this rules set (unless it is a very late book written for 9th ed rules).

Beastmen came out in early 2010 while Skaven were November of 2009. That aside, I agree that beastmen need a book more than Skaven. However, like all of GWs games, each release changes the overall dynamic. The Daemon release hit Skaven particularly hard as now there are cheap flaming cannons in two armies (dwarves and daemons). In addition the chaos table, depending on the interpretation, hurts Skaven players more since they usually have more units on the table. So already we are seeing a change in how Skaven generals select their army for an all-comers list.

Again, I just want a reprinted Skaven book that includes all the errata/FAQ information. I essentially have to carry two books with me right now.

Personally, I think GW will continue the pace of 1-book a month but people have to be prepared that at least one month will be Hobbit related, one month for mystery boxes, and probably another for an Expansion/splash release. Still, 9 books in a year? I'm a fan.

[Grovel]

I'm a little dissapointed that 40k seems to be getting so much more love than WFB. I understand it's inevitible (and understandable, if i'm honest) due to the increased sales 40k brings, but rubbish like the hobbit/lotr releases could have been more army books which makes me a sad nerd.

3 army books per year sounds doable to me, combine that with four 40k codexes and you have a busy schedule (apparently the intended direction) that still has time for random splash releases like Apocalypse and Blood Bowl or bait & switch waves ala Skullcrushers & Screamers.

[Wildeybeast]

I'm a little dissapointed that 40k seems to be getting so much more love than WFB. I understand it's inevitible (and understandable, if i'm honest) due to the increased sales 40k brings, but rubbish like the hobbit/lotr releases could have been more army books which makes me a sad nerd.

3 army books per year sounds doable to me, combine that with four 40k codexes and you have a busy schedule (apparently the intended direction) that still has time for random splash releases like Apocalypse and Blood Bowl or bait & switch waves ala Skullcrushers & Screamers.

You have a point about 40k generating more sales, though it is more to do with 40k being a new edition. IIRC, when 8th ed was first out we had more army book releases than codexes. Hobbit releases won't affect Warhammer or 40k. The big release window for Hobbit is December when there are never any big releases for the two main systems and all the other Hobbit releases so far have been alongside Warhammer and 40k.

[Chronowraith]

You have a point about 40k generating more sales, though it is more to do with 40k being a new edition. IIRC, when 8th ed was first out we had more army book releases than codexes. Hobbit releases won't affect Warhammer or 40k. The big release window for Hobbit is December when there are never any big releases for the two main systems and all the other Hobbit releases so far have been alongside Warhammer and 40k.

Correct, the year after the release of 8th edition saw 3 or 4 army books if I recall and only a couple 40k releases.

Here's to a year with a new major release every month!

[eldargal]

Update:


I was actually discussing with Harry about a month or so ago that next WFB is not till 2015.
An extra year would allow all armies to get treatment before new edition in 2015.

2013
HE
Lizardmen

2014
DE
Dwarfs
Brets(?)

2015
WE (?)
Skaven (?)
9th edition

Personally I'd swap WE & Brets around and change Skaven to O&G....... but that's just me


I'm also expecting Beastmen in 2015 including plastic centigors.

[Chronowraith]

I haven't been paying much attention to 9th edition yet. Are the rumors still indicating another drastic move in the game that invalidates previous army books? I really hope not. Otherwise what is the point of buying any army book published in 2015 with 9th edition right around the corner.

I hope Skaven come after the push to 9th either way though.

[Havik110]

I dont get why they want to redo lizards before wood elves or Brents. I know People cry about not being able to irresistible purple sun at me (which would be game over for lizards) but why the rush...

also are these rumors wish listing or have people actually been playtesting them?

[Wildeybeast]

I dont get why they want to redo lizards before wood elves or Brents. I know People cry about not being able to irresistible purple sun at me (which would be game over for lizards) but why the rush...

also are these rumors wish listing or have people actually been playtesting them?

The studio doesn't have a set order for projects, it's more as when someone comes up with some good ideas for updating an army. Lizard men will be a much easier project to take on than either brets or WE.

[Chronowraith]

I dont get why they want to redo lizards before wood elves or Brents. I know People cry about not being able to irresistible purple sun at me (which would be game over for lizards) but why the rush...

also are these rumors wish listing or have people actually been playtesting them?

Like Wildey said... they are viewed as a quick and easy rewrite. While they don't need as much work as Brets, Wood Elves or even Dwarfs, Lizards need some love. They have a lot of units that are underpowered in 8th edition and their magic is positively absurd. Currently Lizard armies are pretty boring as they all revolve around Temple Guard deathstar and slann with life magic. Easily fixable to bring their magic back in line with everyone else and boost up their units and make them more appropriate for 8th edition.

[Wildeybeast]

Also, lots of scope for big stompy monsters!

[Brakkart]

Also, lots of scope for big stompy monsters!

One of my housemates plays Lizardmen, he's really hoping that there will be a big new Diplodocus style dinosaur for them and to a lesser extent a re-done Carnosaur (cos the current one is rubbish). So much scope for big monsters in that army.

[eldargal]

There are/were rumours of a big plastic lizard kit.

[Mr Mystery]

Any and all big stompy monsters gratefully received.

[Havik110]

Like Wildey said... they are viewed as a quick and easy rewrite. While they don't need as much work as Brets, Wood Elves or even Dwarfs, Lizards need some love. They have a lot of units that are underpowered in 8th edition and their magic is positively absurd. Currently Lizard armies are pretty boring as they all revolve around Temple Guard deathstar and slann with life magic. Easily fixable to bring their magic back in line with everyone else and boost up their units and make them more appropriate for 8th edition.

remember the slann are supposed to be the premier spell casters in the fantasy universe. They are head and shoulders above the elves and think of the elves the way the elves think of man.

[Chronowraith]

I'm not arguing that point. I know Slann are supposed to be the best spellcasters in WFB, however, they currently exceed everyone by an absurd amount because their rules are based off of the casting rules for 7th edition which were extremely different than 8th edition rules.

Being able to add an extra die to every single spell made sense in 7th editon when you were limited based on your magic level. In 8th it makes little sense and leads to a massive imbalance. Just like ignoring the first miscast of every turn. In 7th that was a big deal because miscasts were typically failed spells. In 8th it essentially means that Slann can throw an absurd number of dice at multiples spells and when they miscast... they just pull back a few dice from future spells that phase.

[pgarfunkle]

While Slann probably will be tuned down I don't think that they are that bad really. The extra dice from focused rumination still can't take you over the casting limit of 6 dice per spell according to the FAQ. You also have the weekness that your likely most expensive model is also probably your general and battle standard bearer which can be very risky if someone takes a seroius pop at the unit.

Re ignoring the 1st miscast of each turn I haven't played for a while so I can't pinpoint the ability, I was thinking of throne of vines which ignores every miscast on the roll of a 2+ but as a life spell it is available to everyone and easily dispelled in your own turn. Otherwise the other thing I could think of was the magic item cupped hands which is a one use item only.

[Havik110]

I'm not arguing that point. I know Slann are supposed to be the best spellcasters in WFB, however, they currently exceed everyone by an absurd amount because their rules are based off of the casting rules for 7th edition which were extremely different than 8th edition rules.

Being able to add an extra die to every single spell made sense in 7th editon when you were limited based on your magic level. In 8th it makes little sense and leads to a massive imbalance. Just like ignoring the first miscast of every turn. In 7th that was a big deal because miscasts were typically failed spells. In 8th it essentially means that Slann can throw an absurd number of dice at multiples spells and when they miscast... they just pull back a few dice from future spells that phase.dispell throne of vines and he doesnt ignore miscasts any more...i know people that hold their dice specifically to keep me from casting it, lets me get my warriors to t6 or stegs to t8 every phase, but if he has 4 dice to throw at keeping vines down, thats what he does...(also he plays ogres so hes not worried about dwellers)...and as garfunkle says, dispell it in your turn if it is up...its very easy to do as long as you have a caster...

also a kitted slann is 445 points + or - a few for cupped hands or cube of darkness then add in temple guard unless you are making him insubstantial, in that case add 50 more points...

he is a point sink, more so than any other caster in the game but teclis