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L192837465
01-30-2013, 08:50 AM
Going for a fun list that won't get stomped. Got some fun shooting and some fun CC stuff, a little bit of everything!

My question is this... Is having a flyer or having flyer defense really that important? If I were to take a Helldrake, what should I drop to fit it in?

1 Sorcerer
2 mastery levels
Tzeench
Sigil Of Corruption
Combi Plasma
160

1 Kharn
160

1 Hellbrute
Twin Laz
130

9 Chaos Marines
Mark of Khorn
Icon of Wrath
Meltagun
Powerfist
200

14 Thousand Sons
1 Sorcerer
380

10 Chaos Marines
2 Meltaguns
Lightning claw
175
1 Rhino
Dirge Caster
40

5 Raptors
2 Meltaguns
Lightning claw
130

5 Havocs
4 Plasma Guns
135
1 Rhino
Dirge Caster
40

1 Land Raider
Dirge Caster
Dozer Blade
240

3 Obliterators
210

L192837465
02-01-2013, 01:36 PM
85 views and no comments... I think I've built the perfect list!

Lord Krungharr
02-02-2013, 07:56 PM
That does look like a nice balanced list with good scoring units. Although people seem to think Thousand Sons suck lately, I find them more cost effective than they used to be as the Aspiring Sorcerer comes with a power now, though it must be a Tzeentch Power (if you get Doombolt stick with that).

Anti-air is actually not that huge of a deal unless you're in a very competitive tournament, and then I think an Allied detachment of Imperial Guard or Necrons is best to deal with it. Heldrakes don't even do that much to kill flyers, Vector Striking isn't that good against most of them, Quad Gun is better for S7. I like the Icarus Lascannon with a BS5 cheapo Lord if anything. Then you put some other shooty dudes behind it for a 4+ cover save. Nurgle Oblits like it behind there, or you need to move up or deepstrike they can, and those already are good against flyers in my experience (those assault cannons can usually get a hull point or 2 if all three Oblits are alive to use them).

Daemonette666
02-03-2013, 09:47 PM
I tend not to use landraiders anymore. The Devastators could be replaced with Chosen, and then you could field 5 Plasma guns. I tend to give my Obliterators the MoT, as it makes them less vulnerable to AP2 Weaponry, and the toughness Nurgle mark can be countered with lots of high strength weapons like Plasma guns.

I do not think Hellbrutes/ dreadnoughts are worth taking anymore. The Helldrake or maybe havocs with either autocannons and lascannons or more standard Chaos Marines would give you more feet on the ground to hold objectives.

But still not a bad list.