Daemonette666
01-24-2013, 04:21 AM
I had an impromptu game today, and after being asked for a game I simply asked the guy how many points. He said 1500, he wanted to try out his new Dark Angels. After reading the Codex and going against too many Space Marine type armies for 6th edition, I expected to go against anything from the the new fliers, massed Bikers and/or massed Terminators with the special characters to make them troops, and maybe a few extra units to fill it out.
I designed an army to cover the differnt mission types and hopefully counter what I expected. I was not disappointed. My army was built with the idea of re-rolls from Preferred enemy, and Hatred, lots of Str 7 AP 2 Plasma weapons. With an elite unit of 7 Plague Marines, a MOT Chosen unit, 2 units of 30 cultists with no upgrades, a Dark Apostle- MoT, Abaddon, 2 Obliterators - MOT, and a single Helldrake with Bale Flamer, I quickly worked out the force was about 1500 points.
We rolled up the Purge Alien mission with Hammer and anvil setup, and he went first player. I set up in one corner with the cultist surrounding the bulk of the forces and both Abaddon and the dark Apostle giving their bonuses to all units. My opponent made the mistake of splitting his forces, and dropped his Warlord and a Termie unit in and positioned his lone biker unit of 6 along an edge out of my range. I concentrated fire from 4 units and took out all except the Warlord and 3 Termies just from shooting.
Then I charged them with one Cultist unit who took the termies apart over 2 close combat rounds. I failed my morale test (finally) and ran 7" (with about 10 cultist remaining), but he could not follow up because of the Terminator armour. He dropped in his close assault terminator unit behind cover out of sight and moved Belial up to them.
His 6 bikes got shot up by my helldrake who took out 5 of them, and he complained about the new FAQ being unfair - although I agreed, I said I had to follow the rules because in Tournament they would use the the FAQ rules just as I did with the 360 degree turret inferno weapon. He shot up my Obliterators with one of his fliers killing both, and then shot at my plague marines and I passed my saves (he missed with his TWL lascannon). I scared of his fliers by shooting my Chosen at them with my Chosen's 5 Plasma guns and champs plas pistol and Preferred enemy (from Abaddon). I scored a glance and pen that rolled up a shaken. He failed his jink rolls - 2 hull points lost.
I kept shooting his assault terminators who had been joined by Belial and kept the pressure up with as many shots as I could. I shot and charged his lone biker losing a cultist to overwatch and another from close combat. I then overwhelmed the bike and consolidated back to my own lines. I then took a charge from Belial and the lone Terminator Champion he had left. I overwatched, and he argued when I caused a plasma gun hit on him, and he mumbled that Belial should be able to take the hit. The squad Sergeant was closer and he had not declared a LoS roll. I allowed him to use the 4+ roll he made as Belial's Save for his Sergeant's LoS roll, and he rolled a 3+ for Belial's invul save (Belial was on 2 wounds by this stage). He kept arguing, so I just let him have it his way.
He declared a challenge against Abaddon who killed him before he could lay a blow, then my Plague Marines killed the terminator champion after he felled one of my Plague Marines. All he had left was the 2 fliers, so he flew them off table and declared the game over.
I was a bit peeved that he kept arguing, even though I could show him the rules and had both the FAQs and the rules book + Codex for him to view. Even though I had tabled him, I do not think I won because I had a better codex or his was worse, but by simple tactics and army unit selection. We both had re-rolls form Preferred Enemy and/ or hatred. We both had units we could use as troops instead of elites or other FOC slots.
The army I tool was designed to take on a wider range of enemy armies, but had enough high strength low AP weapons to handle Terminators and bikers. I had a decent amount of cheap throw away troops to keep him locked in close combat or to use as a shield. I also used both Abaddon's and the Dark Apostle's bonuses to help boost my units by staying near to them most of the time, and concentrating weapons fire on one or 2 units only. I stalled his nasty Terminator unit with my cultists long enough for my other units to kill off his supporting squads. In the end, I was surprised that the only unit I lost was the MoT Obliterators (they were killed of in turn 3, and game lasted 5 turns).
The list I wrote breaks a lot of the normal list building rules by not having duplicates for most of the units.
This is exactly what I took:
Abaddon 265 pts
Dark Apostle - MoT 120 Pts
7 Plague Marines - VOTLW, 2 Plasma Guns, Champion Plasma Pistol and Power Fist. 255 Pts
8 Chosen - MoT, 5 x Plasma Gun, Champ Plasma Pistol and Power Fist. 275 Pts
2 units of 30 cultists - no upgrades (CCW and Autopistol) 130 Pts each Edit - drop a single cultist one unit now 126 points.
2 Obliterators MoT 86 Pts edit correction 156 points
1 HellDrake with Bale Flamer. 170 Pts
1431 points total.
I underestimated on the points and had an extra 69 Points to spend. I could probably have expanded the Chosen or the Plague Marines, or even added an extra Obliterator if I dropped something else like a few cultist, but it was an impromptu game.
I think I will keep this list for a 1500 tournament coming up in February.
I designed an army to cover the differnt mission types and hopefully counter what I expected. I was not disappointed. My army was built with the idea of re-rolls from Preferred enemy, and Hatred, lots of Str 7 AP 2 Plasma weapons. With an elite unit of 7 Plague Marines, a MOT Chosen unit, 2 units of 30 cultists with no upgrades, a Dark Apostle- MoT, Abaddon, 2 Obliterators - MOT, and a single Helldrake with Bale Flamer, I quickly worked out the force was about 1500 points.
We rolled up the Purge Alien mission with Hammer and anvil setup, and he went first player. I set up in one corner with the cultist surrounding the bulk of the forces and both Abaddon and the dark Apostle giving their bonuses to all units. My opponent made the mistake of splitting his forces, and dropped his Warlord and a Termie unit in and positioned his lone biker unit of 6 along an edge out of my range. I concentrated fire from 4 units and took out all except the Warlord and 3 Termies just from shooting.
Then I charged them with one Cultist unit who took the termies apart over 2 close combat rounds. I failed my morale test (finally) and ran 7" (with about 10 cultist remaining), but he could not follow up because of the Terminator armour. He dropped in his close assault terminator unit behind cover out of sight and moved Belial up to them.
His 6 bikes got shot up by my helldrake who took out 5 of them, and he complained about the new FAQ being unfair - although I agreed, I said I had to follow the rules because in Tournament they would use the the FAQ rules just as I did with the 360 degree turret inferno weapon. He shot up my Obliterators with one of his fliers killing both, and then shot at my plague marines and I passed my saves (he missed with his TWL lascannon). I scared of his fliers by shooting my Chosen at them with my Chosen's 5 Plasma guns and champs plas pistol and Preferred enemy (from Abaddon). I scored a glance and pen that rolled up a shaken. He failed his jink rolls - 2 hull points lost.
I kept shooting his assault terminators who had been joined by Belial and kept the pressure up with as many shots as I could. I shot and charged his lone biker losing a cultist to overwatch and another from close combat. I then overwhelmed the bike and consolidated back to my own lines. I then took a charge from Belial and the lone Terminator Champion he had left. I overwatched, and he argued when I caused a plasma gun hit on him, and he mumbled that Belial should be able to take the hit. The squad Sergeant was closer and he had not declared a LoS roll. I allowed him to use the 4+ roll he made as Belial's Save for his Sergeant's LoS roll, and he rolled a 3+ for Belial's invul save (Belial was on 2 wounds by this stage). He kept arguing, so I just let him have it his way.
He declared a challenge against Abaddon who killed him before he could lay a blow, then my Plague Marines killed the terminator champion after he felled one of my Plague Marines. All he had left was the 2 fliers, so he flew them off table and declared the game over.
I was a bit peeved that he kept arguing, even though I could show him the rules and had both the FAQs and the rules book + Codex for him to view. Even though I had tabled him, I do not think I won because I had a better codex or his was worse, but by simple tactics and army unit selection. We both had re-rolls form Preferred Enemy and/ or hatred. We both had units we could use as troops instead of elites or other FOC slots.
The army I tool was designed to take on a wider range of enemy armies, but had enough high strength low AP weapons to handle Terminators and bikers. I had a decent amount of cheap throw away troops to keep him locked in close combat or to use as a shield. I also used both Abaddon's and the Dark Apostle's bonuses to help boost my units by staying near to them most of the time, and concentrating weapons fire on one or 2 units only. I stalled his nasty Terminator unit with my cultists long enough for my other units to kill off his supporting squads. In the end, I was surprised that the only unit I lost was the MoT Obliterators (they were killed of in turn 3, and game lasted 5 turns).
The list I wrote breaks a lot of the normal list building rules by not having duplicates for most of the units.
This is exactly what I took:
Abaddon 265 pts
Dark Apostle - MoT 120 Pts
7 Plague Marines - VOTLW, 2 Plasma Guns, Champion Plasma Pistol and Power Fist. 255 Pts
8 Chosen - MoT, 5 x Plasma Gun, Champ Plasma Pistol and Power Fist. 275 Pts
2 units of 30 cultists - no upgrades (CCW and Autopistol) 130 Pts each Edit - drop a single cultist one unit now 126 points.
2 Obliterators MoT 86 Pts edit correction 156 points
1 HellDrake with Bale Flamer. 170 Pts
1431 points total.
I underestimated on the points and had an extra 69 Points to spend. I could probably have expanded the Chosen or the Plague Marines, or even added an extra Obliterator if I dropped something else like a few cultist, but it was an impromptu game.
I think I will keep this list for a 1500 tournament coming up in February.