Money and time wasted....

[RGilbert26]

Ive just spent nearly 2 hours gluing my Techmarine and Thunderfire Cannon together and now it's in the bin.

Gluing the Techmarine was perfectly simple and overall was a nice model. With the Thunderfire Cannon i had to do some minor bending (hot water to soften and then cold water to harden) and i was nearly done with the main assembly, until i had to glue on 4 little barrel things which looked easy enough. Unkown to me i had glued on the end of the barrel incorrectly and so i had to carefully pull it off. Unfortuneatly i end up ripping the bloody thing off and to add matters worse trying to glue it back on with the little things that go on the barrel all hell breaks loose.

Surfice to say i lost my temper and the techmarine exploded against the wall, alongside the Thunderfire Cannon, an unfinished Warpsmith and Sammael i bought the other weekend. After that i let off a very loud and angry scream (er Male scream, not female :P) and promptly noticed i managed to remove a small piece of wall paper in the corridor outside my room (oops).


Has anyone else had a similar experience where they carefully take their time with a model for it to then all go pear shaped and the model ends up in the bin?

EDIT: Also does anyone else hate it when GW give instructions that don't show everything? Or are themselves incorrect?

[Xenith]

In the bin?!

Send all the models that you cannot put together to me, I'll pay the postage.

I would try yoga, or maybe tai chi to deal with the rage :P

[Ketharim]

Sounds more like an anger management problem to me, than an issue with the GW instructions ;)

Btw. Same offer as Xeniths, just send me the "scrap", I will find a use for it, better than the bin^^

[fuzzbuket]

yeah worst ive had was a autarch with a deformed face with the local GW gave me a second and it was all good.

[Chaoschrist]

Perhaps you should try dryfitting it all and see how models come together, besides consulting any assembly instructions.

I never gotten that frustrated that I threw my models around... despite me having anger issues, lol. Over time I learned to put it aside and look at it again later when I'm not that overly annoyed by the models. Quite often I'll either get it right or I'll get it right enough to be happy with it (I've left parts of models, which I didn't think needed to be there... and weren't worth the hassle).

As for deformed mini's... the only thing I absolutely do NOT buy online will be resin figures, since those are prone to have miscasts sometimes. I inspect the model in the blister to avoid having a miscast model. But I am aware that not all characters come in blisters, some come in boxes... harder to do. Never had to buy any of those models... yet, though.

[Psychosplodge]

Has anyone else had a similar experience where they carefully take their time with a model for it to then all go pear shaped and the model ends up in the bin?

EDIT: Also does anyone else hate it when GW give instructions that don't show everything? Or are themselves incorrect?

I'm not that well paid :D

Meccano used to do that, it's to teach you how to build something by looking at it.

[Neelam]

May I suggest you don't buy any Forgeworld models then!

[RGilbert26]

What the problem was is that there are slots in the piece that goes on the end of the barrel that the little bits go into. Because the instructions didnt show it and i hadnt dry fit those parts (everything else was dry fit before hand) i ended up gluing it incorrectly, so i could have just snipped the ends off. Anyway stuff is in the bin now :p

I've put FW stuff together before and haven't had any issues, just shoddy GW instructions that rile me up. Such as the Ork Trukk, the instructions tell you to put the driver on one side of the cab yet the picture has him on the other, then when you notice that the square on his back goes with the one in the cab it's annoying.

Also i don't have anger issues, lack of anger yes :P While i could have vented it a different way i did feel better afterwards.

Any how i can either attempt to put the second one together or shelve it, lol.

[eldargal]

I'd retrieve the bits from the bin, never know when you could find a use for it.

[BrotherAlpharius]

I try to read the instructions properly and dry fit but I've had my share of moments when I was too eager and I've glued bits in the wrong place. I would suggest that the thing to remember is that since it's only a model and not functional it doesn't matter if a bit is missing or wrong way up you can probably salvage it. If I'm playing against you I want to be able to tell what your Thunderfire cannon is; if it's multi-barrelled and has a techmarine standing next to it it's a Thunderfire - what else could it be?!

If you miss bits or get them misaligned you can usually use greenstuff and bits box items to cover the gap with battle damage, trophies, cloaks, etc.

[SotonShades]

Not so much whilst building, but a few of my fully built models have, through no fault of their own, received the very blunt end of my wrath.

Not so long ago, I was suffering a quite deep wave of depression. To try to help me, my parents had come to help me tidy and clean my room, as that is one of the activities that really sends me to a very dark place (Emperor alone knows why). Eventually we had pretty much cleared everything down, save for a couple of cases of 40k stuff that had been put on my bed and a shelf of models, most of which needed to go in said cases. I was on the verge of a breakdown at this point; physically shaking with rage, tears in my eyes, snapping at my parents for no reason even though I knew they were trying to help me. Not a pleasant state of mind at all.

Newho, I packed most of the stuff away, putting all the infantry models into the correct foam trays and the like. Then I had one box of assorted imperial vehicles that didn't have any foam and were just carefully placed together so they weren't moving about, bashing together or squeezing each other in a way that would break anything. After several attempts at trying to close the box, each resulting in me partially of fully reorganising the box, I snapped and flipped out. I just started smashing the lid closed over and over again until it closed. I flicked the catches on and put it away, knowing I'd heard at least one model break.

I actually didn't dare open the box for about 2 and a half months because I didn't think I could face what I had done to my models. I actually rewrote army lists if I remembered that the models were in that box.

In the end, I did open it up on one of my calmer days. A few sponsons had come off and one of the hulls had come apart at the seams. All in all it was quite fixable apart from one sponson heavy bolter that must have broken off and managed to get mashed by the lid being slammed. Fortunately I had a few spares for that anyway, so it wasn't a big deal. I still haven't fixed a couple of bits, but I no longer tidy the 40k stuff in my room if I am in a bad mood!

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

I'm patient with people, but I am very impatient with things like that and technology, allthough I've never thrown anything against a wall or the like I do like to let it out vocally (I usuall just record some song vocals to make it something productive :P). That said, this is why I prefer single-piece models myself as I've never found putting kits together to be any fun personally.

[Defenestratus]

I'm not immune to the effects of 5th edition Rage USR. I've punched holes in doors, thrown things out of my window and such. Its just that when I do it, its usually due to something like "my client just decided to rewrite the spec three days before scheduled move to production" or "The IRS wrote me and is going to audit me for the 6th year in a row" or "My tenant managed to somehow break a stainless steel faucet to the tune of $350 - how do you f'in break a stainless steel faucet??"

However, getting upset over your hobby is exactly the opposite of what you're supposed to do. Hobbies are supposed to be a release from real life - an escape.

Perhaps if the hobby makes you enraged, you need an alternate outlet? May I suggest sailing. (Its my other huge passion)

[ElectricPaladin]

I'd retrieve the bits from the bin, never know when you could find a use for it.

This.

I have never given up on a kit, and I've made some epic mistakes, including gluing a stormtalon's weapon pods on backwards. There's always something you can do. Worst comes to worst, you've got some conversion bits... but probably, with a knife and some greenstuff and some willingness to improvise ("you see, it's a Phobos-Pattern Thunderfire Cannon; cool, huh?"), you can salvage that model.

[Pendragon38]

However, getting upset over your hobby is exactly the opposite of what you're supposed to do. Hobbies are supposed to be a release from real life - an escape.

Perhaps if the hobby makes you enraged, you need an alternate outlet? May I suggest sailing. (Its my other huge passion) I've been reading this and laughing. It sounds like they need to put up a punching bag or need a better hobby like baseball cards.

Perry

[Xenith]

What the problem was...i hadn't dry fit those parts...i ended up gluing it incorrectly

There's the gist.

If putting models together infuriates you, I'd go with Defence's suggestion and try something different for a while.

Just seems abnormal to me to blow the loan money on a model, then throw it in the bin. Assuming that loan you were getting came through.

[Houghten]

it's only a model

Sh!

[Clewz]

EDIT: Also does anyone else hate it when GW give instructions that don't show everything? Or are themselves incorrect?

I'm currently assembling a maulerfiend and I'm finding bits on the sprue that don't match anything in the instructions. theres this studded bit that looks like it goes on a joint or leg somewhere but I'm not sure at this stage. Tis a little annoying

[Denzark]

there seems to be a lot of anger here, but I wonder if people did more phys that would be a better outlet - phys has health benefits and endorphins conquer rage.

When i get stressed modelling or painting, I step away for an hour - play computer games, look at gentleman's 'specialist art' on the internet, whatever. I wouldn't throw an epi-flid at my expensive plastic crack though.

[ElectricPaladin]

look at gentleman's 'specialist art' on the internet...

New favorite euphemism.

[DWest]

I'm currently assembling a maulerfiend and I'm finding bits on the sprue that don't match anything in the instructions. theres this studded bit that looks like it goes on a joint or leg somewhere but I'm not sure at this stage. Tis a little annoying

Off-topic for the thread, but I believe that's the armoring bit for the Magma Cutter. Looks like a kneepad or shoulderpad with a bunch of spikes?

[Psychosplodge]

New favorite euphemism.

It's just a certain point of view...

[Denzark]

Psycho are you saying Obi-wan was a wanker...?

[White Tiger88]

Psycho are you saying Obi-wan was a wanker...?

He WAS!!!

Also this sounds like an anger problem over a GW problem.........

[Psychosplodge]

Psycho are you saying Obi-wan was a wanker...?

I wasn't but I suppose it could be read that way :D

[Dave Mcturk]

dont get married.... ;-}

[plawolf]

This is another reason I prefer metal models. Damn! Wish I had remembered that a while back when people were discussing the pros and cons on metal v plastic. :p

I can't say I have ever been angry enough to take my frustrations out on my models, there are cheaper and more durable things you can vent on, like a punching bag at the gym.

With complex models, I often dry fit them and use bluetac to keep the bits together to see how the finished product looks before I get the glue out. I think some of my finished models may have bits still secured with bluetac...so I guess that is something to watch out for if you do do it that way.

I never cared to for the TF cannon, so never got one, but on the whole, I think GW's instructions are decent enough. But a rule of thumb that has always worked for me is that with glue, less is more, and I prefer superglue to the plastic glues because it is much easier to disassemble things with superglue, especially if you only use it in moderation.

I screwed up the clear plastic canopy on my storm talon by spraying it with matt varnish, but I was able to remove it cleanly enough with a very sharp craft knife and a lot of patience. The replacement from EBay is now installed and its like nothing bad had ever happened. That just reinforces the point others have made that things can always be salvaged. And even if they can't, the bits will come in handy at a later date. Hell the model itself could still be salvageable even if the cannon barrels are all shot. Just pop down to a model store that does trains and there should be all sizes of hollow plastic tubes that you can easily cut up to replace the barrels. Same goes for any other parts that might be beyond saving.

A model can always be saved, or at least have very valuable parts salvages so long as it wasn't baked in an oven or bathed in acids.

[Learn2Eel]

The most frustrated I've been with a model was my first Heldrake - the amount of times it broke (and the timing) bordered on the ludicrous.
As for finecast models, from memory my only real problem was with my Doom of Malan'tai conversion - it kept bending at the tail. Whilst the effect looked cool (it looked like it was turning/hovering) I didn't appreciate it poking friendly models with its' carapace lol.

[Power Klawz]

Sometimes I spend inordinate amounts of time looking back and forth between the illustrated instructions and the pile of indecipherable little bits I've accumulated hoping in vain to identify that little nondescript piece that's supposed to attach the giant shoulderpad to the arm joint... after a while I just don't care and use whatever bit looks most appropriate.

Did I mention I play orks?

Had some issues with lootas the other week but basically just bashed on them until everything fit together in some reasonable semblance of good. Messed up a stormboy nob and decided that it wasn't a mistake, ended up converting it and now it looks pretty awesome and unique.

Basically, putting together plastic toys should be a fun exercise, if it gets too frustrating take a break and do something else for a bit, even though they have legs they won't run away.