Want none GW ogryns

[imperialpower]

Quick question since I hate the current Ogryns GW has up for offer, does anyone knows of any other models that I can use instead, so 40k scale I would like to arm them with Ripper guns because I always do 'what you see is what you get' with weaponry, cheers for any help.

[Wolfshade]

You could try something from the ogre range?

[imperialpower]

Just had a browse of the Ogres a couple of the heads are ok but to be blunt about it they are too fat for what I am wanting, no offence to anyone out of shape or anthing I just like my models to look as though they are able to climb a flight of stairs without having a heart attack. Cheers for the idea though I thought you were onto somthing then

[Wolfshade]

There is a discussion here with some links/pics/ideas

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?12516-Alternative-models-for-Ogryns

[imperialpower]

Nice one, think I will have to buy some stuff from privateer press, I take it they are the same 'heroic' scale as 40k? (The warmachine models sorry)

[Wolfshade]

About that yeah, there is some argument if they are 28mm or 30mm scale, but they don't seem out of place, or at least that is my opinion

[Psychosplodge]

What about classic ogryns from ebay?

[imperialpower]

Classic Ogryns are not really an option since I only like the rouge trader era models and last time I looked they went for £20.00+ and at that price I would struggle to find the logic of fielding a £200.00 unit and would rather waste it on somthing else like going out drinking or road tax but then again £200.00 wouldn't cover either of those.

[Lord Anubis]

The current Ogres aren't really that bad. You may want to give them a second look as components, not assembled models. A lot of their "fatness" is in the gut, and that plate is a separate piece. I've done a couple Ogryns where I trim down the edges and just sculpt very basic abdominal muscles over the hole where the gut plate goes.

They don't look skinny, but they don't look like prime heart-attack material, either. ;)

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[imperialpower]

Thanks for the info Lord Anubis I may just convert a couple looking at that pic, thinking about it I will probably sculpt a praetorian unifrom over the torso anyway make them look more like soldiers instead of milita.

[sneakyben]

The current Ogres aren't really that bad. You may want to give them a second look as components, not assembled models. A lot of their "fatness" is in the gut, and that plate is a separate piece. I've done a couple Ogryns where I trim down the edges and just sculpt very basic abdominal muscles over the hole where the gut plate goes.

They don't look skinny, but they don't look like prime heart-attack material, either. ;)

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Could you advise on the best way to do arms for them?

[Lord Anubis]

The arms are just the actual Ogre ones. Or do you mean arms in the sense of weapons?

I generally use one of the actual Ogre weapons on one hand. For my Penal Legion Ogryns, it's one of the scrap/pieced together gauntlets (I think they're called ironfists? I don't actually play Fantasy). On the Catachan Ogryns it's one of the larger swords, which all have kind of a machete look to them anyway (good in the jungle).

I built the ripper guns on the Penal Legion guys from scratch using some plastic tubing and bitz. I might do something a little more elaborate on the Catachan ones (maybe with more of a drum magazine), although a friend of mine just did a fantastic conversion using the heavy bolter from the IG heavy weapons team.

I'll throw up some pictures and specific instructions over on my geeky blog later (http://thegrimcheapness.blogspot.com/) this week, if you like.

[sneakyben]

The arms are just the actual Ogre ones. Or do you mean arms in the sense of weapons?

I generally use one of the actual Ogre weapons on one hand. For my Penal Legion Ogryns, it's one of the scrap/pieced together gauntlets (I think they're called ironfists? I don't actually play Fantasy). On the Catachan Ogryns it's one of the larger swords, which all have kind of a machete look to them anyway (good in the jungle).

I built the ripper guns on the Penal Legion guys from scratch using some plastic tubing and bitz. I might do something a little more elaborate on the Catachan ones (maybe with more of a drum magazine), although a friend of mine just did a fantastic conversion using the heavy bolter from the IG heavy weapons team.

I'll throw up some pictures and specific instructions over on my geeky blog later (http://thegrimcheapness.blogspot.com/) this week, if you like.

ANy guides you could post up would be cool...

Do the ogre sprues have arms/fists look like they are holding a pistol grip (so are easy to add guns to)?

Also, do those sprues have fists that could be just left empty and still look complete?

[jgebi]

can't say I've ever thought of them as "fat" as their muscle build is so great that it doesn't matter, but I would try a diffrent game theirs always good other options out their

[imperialpower]

can't say I've ever thought of them as "fat" as their muscle build is so great that it doesn't matter, but I would try a diffrent game theirs always good other options out their

I was revering to the ogers giant pot belly and thunder thighs when I said they looked fat which I imagine fits with their fluff, I suppose they are more worlds strongest man in build rather than what I would consider to be healthy looking, although my army of choice is Eldar so if anything is not tall and athletic I personally would concider it looking 'out of shape' But I have decided to buy some to convert since they are plastic and still GW range so I can avoid any Bulls**t that may accure with the use of none GW minis

[miteyheroes]

They don't have ripper guns, but the Scribor Prussian Ogres are pretty cool:
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=697
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=693
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=695
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=694

[Lord Anubis]

I just tossed a post up on my site, In The Grim Cheapness of the Future... (http://thegrimcheapness.blogspot.com/), about how I turned Fantasy Ogres into Guard Ogryns.

This entry is all about coverting the body and stripping away the Fantasy-ness of them. Next week I'll put up something on building ripper guns for them.

Hope it helps.

[Súil Dubh]

Maxmini now offers a "Space Ogre" sculpted by Bob Olley.

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=201

At 13 Euros, it's expensive, but it comes with four extra heads, and three arms, so if you buy one, you'll have spare parts for conversions.

[edit: just checked the German GW website, and official ogryns are 17 Euros each, so the Maxmini ogre is cheaper.]

[kellyj]

Fantasy Ogres converted using Ork Shootas and shoulder pad bits, some Plasticard, and a little greenstuff.
Take the arms with clubs, cut the clubs off at the hand. It leaves a nice flat surface to glue the gun onto.
The belly-plates make decent helmets with very little rework required. Once you assemble the feet shave the pointy shoes down so its more like a normal boot.
Another option would be the Ogre Lead-belchers. While you only get 4, I suspect their hand positions would work well with an IG Autocannon.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/kell553/Samurai%20Knights/Bonehead1-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/kell553/Samurai%20Knights/Ogryngun-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/kell553/Samurai%20Knights/Ogryns5.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/kell553/Samurai%20Knights/Ogryns4.jpg