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Mr Mystery
01-13-2013, 03:56 PM
Apologies if it's just me being a bit slow on the uptake......

But how come the Thousand Son models aren't in Mk2, 3 or 4 armour, but Mk 7??

Because you know, that armour wasn't introduced until after the Heresy, when not to put too fine a point on it, they didn't exactly have any use for new armour??

I r confuse!!!! Confuse in the face!

Roll on the Forgeworld ones I say!

Houghten
01-13-2013, 05:12 PM
Why does that look like Mk7 to you? The chestplates look like Mk4 to me, and the helmets don't quite match up with anything. Mk5 with the studs replaced by crests, maybe?

Edit: and the Mk5 chestplates look a lot like the Mk4 ones. I'm amending my guess to "Mk5, hold the studs".

mysterex
01-14-2013, 12:27 AM
Apologies if it's just me being a bit slow on the uptake......

But how come the Thousand Son models aren't in Mk2, 3 or 4 armour, but Mk 7??

Because you know, that armour wasn't introduced until after the Heresy, when not to put too fine a point on it, they didn't exactly have any use for new armour??

I r confuse!!!! Confuse in the face!

Roll on the Forgeworld ones I say!

It's whats known in the movie industry as a "continuity error", i.e. they built stuff without checking the internal consistency. Another one is the way Cypher appeared in green rather than the original black heresy era Dark Angels armour.

AnEnemy
01-14-2013, 12:33 AM
In the Horus Heresy: Betrayal Book One there are several color plates depicting helms that strongly resemble Mk 7. They're all designated Mark V, but with different pattern names. Small differences. Like the small crest running across the top of the helm only goes halfway across the helm instead of running straight along to the forehead. The side vents that are, at times, depicted as tubes are also shortened. The ventilator is noted as a late M.30 Mantilla pattern. There's also the Sarum pattern helm. Very similar as well.

Mr Mystery
01-14-2013, 01:50 AM
But MkV was the result of the Heresy, and it seems (reading Prospero Burns) that the Rubric was cast before the Heresy really kicked into gear.

Well confused!

miteyheroes
01-14-2013, 10:06 AM
Thousand Sons torsoes have exposed cables, as per Mk 4-6. The helmets could be Mk 5. The shoulder pads are Mk 2-3. Seems fine, only the helmets are possible problems?

Maybe the Thousand Sons got a nice new batch of helmets just before the Heresy broke out? Maybe the warping power of Tzeentch, as well as putting great big crests on their helmets, also gave them face-grills?

Mr Mystery
01-14-2013, 11:26 AM
mk4 didn't have exposed cabling, it was covered up.

OrksOrksOrks
01-14-2013, 04:20 PM
Because the models were made before they'd solidified the fluff around what happened to them and what armour was issued when. Most older chaos marine models wear armour that is a bit newer looking than they should have

Psychosplodge
01-14-2013, 04:39 PM
Clearly scavenged off the battlefields of the 41st millennium...

Mr Mystery
01-14-2013, 04:54 PM
But how? Suits are sealed! Enough damage, and the automaton is presumably gone forever.

Assuming nobody can/cast the Rubric again?

Kawauso
01-14-2013, 05:05 PM
But how? Suits are sealed! Enough damage, and the automaton is presumably gone forever.

Assuming nobody can/cast the Rubric again?

Not forever.

The plot of one of the Space Wolf novels revolved around a ritual whereby the spirits of destroyed rubric marines were summoned back from the warp to possess new bodies/armour.