Blood Angels' 3rd Company 'Ironhelms'

[Wolfshade]

I've been playing for far too long and have amassed probably too many miniatures, but in this year I have decieded to eschew my usual plan of collect twice as much as I paint and actually get on and do something I have been meaning to do for years.

I am going to strip, and re-paint a full company of Blood Angels.
The plan is to try and do it at the rate of about 1 squad per month, which isn't a lot but should be at a rate that I can handle with juggling other competing demands.

Company Composition

Like any Index Astartes adherent chapter the 3rd company consists of:

6 Tactical Squads
2 Assault Squads
2 Devastator Squads

They also have 4 Dreadnoughts attached to them

Colour Scheme

Over the years Blood Angels have had a number of different colour schemes but I am planing on doing a red and black theme similiar to this:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/3/34/Blood_Angels_Space_Marine.JPG

Instead of using Roman Numerals for squad numbers they instead use symbols on their right knee pads:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/apokk/justsquadbadges.jpg

There has been some discussion as to what symbol would adorn their right should pad. Index Astartes would have us believe that this should be the squad designator, and indeed this has been shown on some artwork. But I feel this is a little tautological as the helm colour defines what the squad type is.

Red - Tactical
Yellow - Assault
Blue - Devastator
Gold - Honour Guard

Instead I shall use the right pad to distinguish which company they belong to as follows:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110303192335/warhammer40k/images/thumb/6/63/Company_Markings.jpg/220px-Company_Markings.jpg

So being the 3rd Company they will have a white blood drops.

I shall be adding my progress as I go along with before, during and after photographs.

January's Project - Stripping the Mini

[Psychosplodge]

That looks well planned and thought out.

[Vindur]

IIRC Captain Tycho is the captain of the 3rd, with his single winged blood drop sometimes being uses as a symbol for them.

[Godless Zealot]

That's quite an undertaking are you going to be doing all the support vehicles too? I look forward to seeing the results.

[Wolfshade]

IIRC Captain Tycho is the captain of the 3rd, with his single winged blood drop sometimes being uses as a symbol for them.

He was until he joined the Death Company and died at the Battle for Armagedon 3.

This will be based between the 2nd and 3rd war while he is still relatively sane.
I was thinking of giving him a white/silver blood drop to match the company markings.


That's quite an undertaking are you going to be doing all the support vehicles too? I look forward to seeing the results.

No, or at least not yet. The vehicles while accounted are not specifically attached to a company but are in a general motorpool so there is no reliable way to determine which companies had which support vehicles.

[Godless Zealot]

No, or at least not yet. The vehicles while accounted are not specifically attached to a company but are in a general motorpool so there is no reliable way to determine which companies had which support vehicles.

Ah I see, well still going to be cool to see!

[Psychosplodge]

All the rhinos though?

[Wolfshade]

All the rhinos though?

Not on this one, though I know what you are thinking. You are recalling Tycho's preponderance for fully mechanised assault that he used so sucessfully.
No, this is going to be an on foot company, for now. It is also a reflection that I only have 2 rhinos and a razorback and some land raiders but not enough for one per squad.

[Psychosplodge]

lol no I was just thinking of the space marine company they sold briefly...

[Wolfshade]

lol no I was just thinking of the space marine company they sold briefly...

I do recall that, I also recall being told no by The Wife as I looked at it and worked out the brilliant savings...

[Psychosplodge]

I can't remember why I didn't buy one. Probably something similar.

[Wolfshade]

Well I tried some stripping with some paint stripper I had floating about:

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Suffice to say I shall try the detol approach next time.

[Godless Zealot]

Well I tried some stripping with some paint stripper I had floating about:

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Suffice to say I shall try the detol approach next time.

Crikey! :eek: Poor archer.....

[Wolfshade]

Well the paint did come off, I thought it would happen like this but I didn't believe the hype. Next time I'll try the Detol method. Though I have no more Archers for the slaughter...

[PalinMoonstride]

Well the paint did come off, I thought it would happen like this but I didn't believe the hype. Next time I'll try the Detol method. Though I have no more Archers for the slaughter...


http://www.amazon.com/Procter-Gamble-00632-Dawn-Dissolver/dp/B000I1A8QW

This stuff works wonders. I have also left models sitting in it for a month and they were fine when i pulled them out. It seems to also weaken super glue.

[Wolfshade]

We have a product called Cillet Bang which probably does similar. But my friends have used detol in the past that works for them so I'll experiment with that

[Cpt Codpiece]

head to TESCO and grab some fairy power spray. it works wonders for stripping on all materials. i have stripped metal plastic and resin with it, though not FC yet.

asda does not sell it and morrisons seems to have it now and then, but i have found tesco seem to stock it all the time.

[Psychosplodge]

It's ok, he was but an extra

[Wolfshade]

head to TESCO and grab some fairy power spray. it works wonders for stripping on all materials. i have stripped metal plastic and resin with it, though not FC yet.

asda does not sell it and morrisons seems to have it now and then, but i have found tesco seem to stock it all the time.

Well Tesco are doing their 50% off household cleaning!


It's ok, he was but an extra

Underneath the mythryl was a red shirt.
I now need to consider what the next test model will be, the leaders are either a Saurus warrior or a 90s era Goff Boy

[Psychosplodge]

the Goff, he's more 40k...

[matus]

I wrote this on Librarium Online a few years back if it helps:


After reading so many different threads on what product to use to strip paint of plastic models, I was getting a little confused. People's results even with the same chemicals seemed to vary wildly. The most common, Simple Green, is so rare in the UK as to not be an option and even with that peoples results varied.

I thought I'd run a little experiment. I'd just bought a load of marines from ebay, they were absolutely caked in paint and needed stripping. They were also old and cheap so if I melted a few I'd not be too bothered.

For my experiment I chose five different chemicals I could find around my house, well I went out an buy some ultra cheap multi surface cleaner as close as I could get to the one used by leighjt in his tutorial. Into a jar of each chemical I placed 2 or 3 miniatures, if possible something plastic and something metal

These were the results of the first attempt:


First off the brushes I used, an old toothbrush, a new stiff tooth brush and a wire brush

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8Mk2-YWOI/AAAAAAAAACE/vPr6Epjbwlw/Brushs.jpg


Vodka

Pilot00 suggested alcohol, he specifically said the type you get from the chemist, but I thought I'd try Vodka anyway. As you can see it did not work in any way. Lets just call this the control, an example of what 24 hours soaking in a non melty liquid and some vigorous scrubbing can do. I should have known vodka has no effect on a space marine, its right there in the fluff!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8Ml2Wzs7I/AAAAAAAAACM/oMeX2g7JswA/vodka.jpg

Foaming Oven Cleaner

Problem here seemed to be, after the foam died down the model was not actually soaking, so nothing much happened. Better than the vodka, but would still take many many attempts to get most of the paint off.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MnO0A67I/AAAAAAAAACU/bhmHrWW4P8E/CIF-OVEN-.jpg

Cheap Multi Surface Cleaner

This result came after two soaks and some very vigorous scrubbing. Not bad though considering its by far the cheapest chemical here. Still bits in the cracks, which is unfrotunatly exactly where I was trying to remove it from, so a spray prime won't obscure the detai.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8Mmuce0zI/AAAAAAAAACQ/0XxlQlVrLmc/All-Puropse.jpg



Rest to follow as you only seem to be able to post 4 images at once and two posts in quick succession need mid approval :-)

[matus]

And the rest:
Expensive Multi Surface Cleaner

Again, these results are after 2, actually I think 3, soaks and scrubs. I even used the wire brush, but the results were not bad, still bits stuck in the recesses, and the bits I can't easily scrub are impossible to clean. Overall no better than the cheap cleaner really

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MljyLOGI/AAAAAAAAACI/i6pPTiSNp1k/CIF-Power-Cream.jpg

Cream Cleaner

Right, I thought cream cleaner, that should do the trick. Adverts give the impression that the thicker a chemical is, the better it cleans, and this is the premier football player of cleaners, nice and thick! The results however were nothing to write home about, worse than the thin cheap cleaner anyway (and a darn sight smellier and itchier). Metal mini came up shiny though...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MnkOg_2I/AAAAAAAAACY/rPNLeuU1ERo/Cream-Cleaner.jpg

Then I remembered someing Lani Guy said:


TEMPERATURE affects the ability of SImple Green. At temperatures of 70F+ it works awesomely, I am now in cooler/winter temperatures of 30-45F and it does not work well at all.

So I thought I'd try the cheap cleaner again in the airing cupboard. Thats not much warmer, not like a radiator, but a couple of degrees. I wasn't expecting much, maybe one less scrub needed or something. I took it out early to have a look too. Now these reults are after less time and with only one light scrub and no redunks. I'm impressed.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MkWZJvuI/AAAAAAAAACA/2oUykRiQjKY/s512/warm.jpg

I thought I'd give a close up of all the nurgle attack goodness

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MjoEkNXI/AAAAAAAAAB4/x-cQgmRY80M/up-close.jpg

So my conclusions:

The chemical is no that important, as long as it is a surface cleaner. Don't stress if you can't get Simple Green, any dirt cheap cleaner will do

The more you can break up the miniature the better it will work, partly because scrubbing is easier

Surprisingly wire brushed don't damage plastic miniatures that much

Temperature is very important, we're not talking huge jumps here, just the difference between a window sill and an airing cupboard

You still need a needle or something to clean out the recesses

Leaving things overnight is always best

Space marines are always better if they smell of lemon

NOw time to see if I can scale this up and whether another dunk in warm cleaner will get the last bits of the final test models.

[Fizzybubela]

Thanks! I needed to find something to strip the paint off my Space Hulk minis as I need to repaint them.

[Wolfshade]

Very nice Matus, that was the sort of thing that I was going to do, but you seem to have done the hard work for me :)

[Psychosplodge]

But more importantly, will it blend?

[matus]

Ill try and repost the second part, as thats where I worked out what orks best, apologies if this ends up double posted.



Expensive Multi Surface Cleaner

Again, these results are after 2, actually I think 3, soaks and scrubs. I even used the wire brush, but the results were not bad, still bits stuck in the recesses, and the bits I can't easily scrub are impossible to clean. Overall no better than the cheap cleaner really

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MljyLOGI/AAAAAAAAACI/i6pPTiSNp1k/CIF-Power-Cream.jpg

Cream Cleaner

Right, I thought cream cleaner, that should do the trick. Adverts give the impression that the thicker a chemical is, the better it cleans, and this is the premier football player of cleaners, nice and thick! The results however were nothing to write home about, worse than the thin cheap cleaner anyway (and a darn sight smellier and itchier). Metal mini came up shiny though...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MnkOg_2I/AAAAAAAAACY/rPNLeuU1ERo/Cream-Cleaner.jpg

Then I remembered someing Lani Guy said:


TEMPERATURE affects the ability of SImple Green. At temperatures of 70F+ it works awesomely, I am now in cooler/winter temperatures of 30-45F and it does not work well at all.

So I thought I'd try the cheap cleaner again in the airing cupboard. Thats not much warmer, not like a radiator, but a couple of degrees. I wasn't expecting much, maybe one less scrub needed or something. I took it out early to have a look too. Now these reults are after less time and with only one light scrub and no redunks. I'm impressed.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MkWZJvuI/AAAAAAAAACA/2oUykRiQjKY/s512/warm.jpg

I thought I'd give a close up of all the nurgle attack goodness

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_7D-f5v-qrMs/Su8MjoEkNXI/AAAAAAAAAB4/x-cQgmRY80M/up-close.jpg

So my conclusions:

The chemical is no that important, as long as it is a surface cleaner. Don't stress if you can't get Simple Green, any dirt cheap cleaner will do

The more you can break up the miniature the better it will work, partly because scrubbing is easier

Surprisingly wire brushed don't damage plastic miniatures that much

Temperature is very important, we're not talking huge jumps here, just the difference between a window sill and an airing cupboard

You still need a needle or something to clean out the recesses

Leaving things overnight is always best

Space marines are always better if they smell of lemon


As you can see, temperature seems to play a really important role, but brand of cleaner, ironically does not seem to play as much.

[Lord Korven]

Two words. SIMPLE GREEN. Works wonders on metal and plastic. Let em soak for a couple of days and scrub with a toothbrush. You can get simple green from any most hardware stores. The jugs usually cost around 10 bucks and there is plenty there to strip a whole company of space marines.

[Wolfshade]

Two words. SIMPLE GREEN. Works wonders on metal and plastic. Let em soak for a couple of days and scrub with a toothbrush. You can get simple green from any most hardware stores. The jugs usually cost around 10 bucks and there is plenty there to strip a whole company of space marines.

Simple Green does not retail over here, or if it does I have never seen it in any supermarket. My friends have used Detol in the past and so I shall try that.

[ElectricPaladin]

I've used simple green, but it can take a lot of scrubbing. You could also try LA's Amazing. The paint actually starts to come off in flecks after twelve hours!

[lobster-overlord]

lol no I was just thinking of the space marine company they sold briefly...

I sorely miss Troll Boss Bob's Bargain Basement. I started many armies through that service. I was about $1,500 short of being able to pull of the Chapter deal when it was there.

I'm glad I didn't get it though in the end, as it wouldn't have allowed for Blood Angels chapter, and all the tanks were the old Rhino chassis.

I'm personally much happier with the direction the models have taken since then.

I've got a couple of companies laid out but not painted for my BA's, and third included. My shoulder pad layout is the same. Chapter one side, company the other.

John M>

[Wolfshade]

Traditional Squad banners are in two forms, the Sergeants which is a black banner with a red blood drop and then reversed for the second in command.

http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/BASquadBannerblackBest.jpghttp://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/BASquadBannerRedBest.jpg

While I will be keeping the 2nd in command having the same markings as the sergeant's, the will not be sporting the red banner.

Then there is this from WD31?

http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/bloodangelBannerTemplates.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

Company banner?

[Wolfshade]

The 3rd company banner reflects Tycho's personal heraldry red diagonal with the blood drop wing, I was thinkinking probably something like this:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1271355983/gallery_50581_4362_23575.jpg

But replace the sword arm (4th company "Knights of Baal") with Tycho's blood drop, obviously the numeric 4 becomes 3 and the four green blood drops replaced with three white/silver ones.

I am also considering changing the chalice to a stylised helm

[Psychosplodge]

Sounds good.

[Wolfshade]

Stripping!
(This time with miniatures and success)

Well the old Dettol method worked fine.

Step 1
Get a badly painted miniature (I have an abundance...)
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Step 2
Pour enough Dettol to cover the miniature
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Step 3
Wait several hours (I chose overnight)

Step 4
Remove the miniature
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Step 5
Using an old toothbrush (or the current one of an adversary) scrub the miniature.
A cocktail stick could be useful for those hard to reach areas (not tried on this miniature though).
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[Psychosplodge]

Has the wife noticed you're using her toothbrush yet?

[Wolfshade]

Nah. It's not hers

[Psychosplodge]

lols

[Meph]

Ah, more Blood Angels. Splendid, splendid... :D

[scarylion]

Google Biostrip 20 for the best stuff for stripping models 'ive found in the UK, its pretty badass

[Wolfshade]

It's ok I'll stick with Dettol it is cheaper and I've had bad experience of paint strippers.

[Wolfshade]

So I have rummaged through my army cases and collected all my marines and I have too many (first world problems...) never mind the remaining squads will be put aside for my next company.
So without further ado I present the army to be stripped.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/IMAG0136_zps1995c8a9.jpg

full company ready and waiting

6 tactical squads
2 assault squads
2 devastator squads
captain (Tycho) with command squad

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/IMAG0137_zpse278d5dc.jpg

[Wolfshade]

1st squad ready for the drink...

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0138_zps807ce0cd.jpg

Yes this is a 2nd ed. era snap fit 10 man tactical squad with missile launcher and flamer.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0140_zps0cc692fc.jpg

Here we go...

[Psychosplodge]

I remember those guys!

[Wolfshade]

Had a quick look last night and most of the paint had come off, or did so with some gentle brushing. Some in the crevices which need to be toothpicked out, but I didn't have any.

Also it transpires that the 2nd from the right on the back row isn't a snap fit! Though that should have been obvious to me as he is blood red not blood angels red.

As an aside my hands still smell of dettol... also, stylistically I think I prefer the shorter old flamer model to the much longer new version...

[alshrive]

brilliant! you are stripping plastic models yes? how are you doing it because i have never stripped plastic before and have some to do! any advice?

[Wolfshade]

Yup they are all plastic that are being stripped.

1. Put the model into a jar of dettol, if you can remove bits do so (like base, back pack, arms guns etc.)
2. Wait (the longest I've waited is 3 days without any damage, but that is because I am lazy)
3. Brush with old toothbrush to remove paint or toothpick for crevices
4. Rinse with more dettol
5. Rinse with warm water & fairy liquid.

If you rinse with water before it is properly cleaned they get a little tacky, this can be removed.

Do it in a well ventelated area as the Dettol smells, also wear protective gloves as the dettol can be an irritant.

[alshrive]

brilliant! river trolls are going for a swim tonight! any specific dettol?

[Wolfshade]

I don't know if any work but the brown stuff does:

http://www.dettol.co.uk/products-for-your-family-personal-hygiene-liquid

Allegedly Biostrip works well though I've not tried it.

[alshrive]

brilliant i will swing by tesco on my way home :D cheers matey!!

[Blackmonkey0]

Dettol is evil, much safer and easier to use Fairy Power Spray.
Spray on a light coating wait half and hour gently brush off with a toothbrush.

[alshrive]

well i left the office late yesterday and never got a chance to get any dettol so i may try that one!

[Wolfshade]

I found toothpicks! Unfortunately it was late at night after I was back from the pub so I thought best not to do something.

[Psychosplodge]

It's amazing the things that don't go as well as you expected post pub...Saturday morning I discovered I'd tried running my PC through my tv...but the leads a foot too short. How I though I was going to listen to it I dunno...

[Wolfshade]

I'm not even going to ask Psycho.

Well finally found a toothpick/cocktail stick and huzzah!

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/2013-01-30191314_zpse8a98427.jpg
As you can see some bits fell off that were glued, not sure why exactly.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/2013-01-30191453_zps1a6a4759.jpg
Sergeant Petrarch 1st Squad, 3rd Company ready for action

[Wolfshade]

2nd squad about to face the drink, again all 2nd ed snap fits
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/2013-01-30192009_zps64a11247.jpg

I'm hoping to start the 1st squad this weekend if the weather permits, spraying with rain is not a good idea...

[Psychosplodge]

They don't look too bad, were they originally undercoated with the BA red undercoat spray? or black or white?

[Wolfshade]

The the stripped post the cleaner ones one white, the ones with red tinges are BA red. The red tinges are flat so it's not raised colour.
Those about to be stripped were White then BA red spray.

The paint adheres to the glue stronger than the plastic so it makes the stripping slightly harder.
Having got them like this I can see that I need to clean up some of the plastic flashes

[Psychosplodge]

They don't do them anymore...

[Wolfshade]

I'm melting! (Or pappa nurgles newest recruit)

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0144_zps96d8526e.jpg

He is actually fine, the paint just came off in one piece.

[SotonShades]

Lol that looks awesome!

[Psychosplodge]

http://www.tsoalr.com/comics/2003-10-27-017_Smik.gif

[SotonShades]

LoL I had all but forgotten how good TSoaLR was :)

[Psychosplodge]

I miss it...

[Wolfshade]

Some painting action.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0150_zpsab556116.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/467f9f84-2867-44cc-9ca3-603316debd03_zps70e603c0.jpg

[Psychosplodge]

What red is that?

[Wolfshade]

Army Painter - Pure Red.

There is a Magenta & Chestnut ink wash over it 1:1 ratio

[Psychosplodge]

That's a nice colour. And I miss chestnut ink, is that an old one or is that an army painter one too?

[Wolfshade]

Old ink. I've not tried the washes so I don't know how they compare.

My only complaint about it is that it leaves them a little shiney.

[Psychosplodge]

matt spray varnish takes the edge off.

[Fizzybubela]

Nice! :)

[White Tiger88]

My only suggestion is to paint thinner....and take pictures from farther away right now i can't tell whats model and whats paint clump =/

[Wolfshade]

It's all model :)

I was trying to decide what names to give my squads. I would like to follow the common archetype that GW have given me, but unfortunately GW is all over the shop with that one (see this discussion: http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?29862-Inconsistent-Names&p=284846). I have decided to go for Jewish demon names. The reason for this is because I like the connection between those dessert dwellers and what we know of Baal.

So, for squad names I have:

Abyzou
Armaros
Asb'el
Danjal
Eisheth
Kasadya
Kokb'ael
Lilin
Mastema
Naamah
Rahab
Semyaz

There are also Behemoth and Leviathan which are cool, but sound more like deployments rather than squads.

So that gives me more than enough, there are also Storm demons

Shedu
Edimmu
Utukki

To add to the mix.

In terms of progress, The first squad is almost compelete, the 2nd squad is stripped and ready for basing, the 3rd is in the drink as we speak.

[Psychosplodge]

I really need to paint stuff.

[Wolfshade]

So my graphics card expired this morning so I decided to finish off the squad.
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0878_zpsd6c57480.jpg

While getting the next ready I realised that I had lost a bolter with hands arm, so I cobbled one together using open hand, frag grenade hand and an old bolter, was tempted to give him a modern one but thought that didn't fit.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMAG0875_zps86c916a6.jpg

1 Squad, 11 months, Huzzah!

[Deadlift]

Lol, I was looking at the dates of the posts and I clicked. More painting and more updates is in order don't you think ;)

[Dread Corsair]

Just started a Blood Angels army myself. Love the old classic 2nd edition models, brings back memories.

[Dave Fothergill]

I'm loving that everyone has love for the Blood angels and I like your work so far it's looking good, I'm currently painting up a BA 1st company and will post some pictures when I've the time.

[Dread Corsair]

I'm loving that everyone has love for the Blood angels and I like your work so far it's looking good, I'm currently painting up a BA 1st company and will post some pictures when I've the time.

That would be great to see a veterans company. I'd put some pictures of my own work if I had any artistic talent but compared to some of the brilliant miniatures I see in this forum they just don't compare. :o

[Dave Fothergill]

That would be great to see a veterans company. I'd put some pictures of my own work if I had any artistic talent but compared to some of the brilliant miniatures I see in this forum they just don't compare. :o

Ill post some pics soon but put some of yours up as well I'm not the greatest painter but enjoy sharing what I do with everyone

[Wolfshade]

That would be great to see a veterans company. I'd put some pictures of my own work if I had any artistic talent but compared to some of the brilliant miniatures I see in this forum they just don't compare. :o


Ill post some pics soon but put some of yours up as well I'm not the greatest painter but enjoy sharing what I do with everyone

Lack of talent doesn't stop me, Huzzah!

[Wolfshade]

So, 3 years is enough time to resurrect a plog yes? No? Who cares.

Anyway, 3rd company still to do - most.

Anyway, GW have changed their paints twice since I started so it is stripping and starting again, woo!

[Psychosplodge]

Well, I brought mine back - from longer than I realised.

[Wolfshade]

So Assault on Black Reach minis:

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_120555_zpsnsq364vw.jpg

Notice the molded tactical arrows
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_120604_zpslholeuqd.jpg

and with BA not being compliant to those markings, they must go

Using the mold removal tool
It looks like:
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_121013_zpsuxz6uuhj.jpg

10 x
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_124216_zpsyslozrsw.jpg

[Wolfshade]

And obviously another batch of 2nd ed tacticals into the drink

Before:
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160913_181344_zpsmguadpzz.jpg
During:
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160913_181510_zpsex20ikxt.jpg
After:
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_130539_zpsmgnzusz7.jpg

This time I'm using brake fluid (yes some people it claims that they melt minis but they haven't for me, maybe I should have tested with a mini not an entire squad...)

[Psychosplodge]

I see what you did there :p

I remember those marines.

[Wolfshade]

I see what you did there :p

I remember those marines.

You saw nothing ;)

Oh, this painting project is going to be a little weird, in that it will be army wise colours at a time, rather than a model/squad at a time.

I am pleased with the removal of the tactical symbols, so I feel more confident attacking the dark vengance dark angels and converting them to the true path.

[Psychosplodge]

I think I might have to re-evaluate the dark vengeance models.

[Wolfshade]

I think I might have to re-evaluate the dark vengeance models.

Just send them to be problem solved ;)

[Psychosplodge]

But then I wouldn't have them? :confused:

[Wolfshade]

But then I wouldn't have them? :confused:

Then you wouldn't need to stress about scraping off the iconography - I'm just trying to help you

[Psychosplodge]

And you'd send them right back right?

[Wolfshade]

And you'd send them right back right?

Totes, I'd send those scrapings back :p

[Psychosplodge]

Seems legit, I'll get right on posting them. Armoured steel container and you'll sort the postage on arrival right ;)

[Wolfshade]

Progress report (of sorts)

Tactical Squad 1 - Primed & black
Tactical Squad 2 - Primed & black
Tactical Squad 3 - Primed & black
Tactical Squad 4 - Primed & black
Tactical Squad 5 - 5 x Primed, 5 x in brake fluid
Tactical Squad 6 - Still to strip

Assault Squad 1 - Still to strip
Assault Squad 2 - Still to strip

Devastator Squad 1 - Primed & black
Devastator Squad 2 - Primed

So lots of progress, certainly more than the last time I decided to repaint.

Things what I learned:

- The mold removal tool (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Citadel-Mouldline-Remover) is really quite excellent and I look forward to using it on my Dark Vengance Marines soon
- Army painter Pure Red (http://shop.thearmypainter.com/products.php?ProductGroupId=15) looks better on white then black or unpainted/stripped
- The Pallet pad (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Citadel-Palette-Pad) is not what I thought and so I am just using the lid from a takeaway as my pallet (seems fine and for the same price comes with free food)

[Sauragnmon]

It's not unheard of that many colours look a lot better over a white base than darker colours, unfortunately. Though, if you've got one, I use one of those clear CD-shaped pieces off one of those bulk stacks you buy.. you can take a moment and scrape it clean without much trouble in my experience.

And I understand the frustration of going into a repaint stretch.. I've got a decent sized marine collection with all manner of natures, and I just decided to turn them all over to Alpha Legion.. my CSM, my CA Marines, the Wolves I have, the DA I have, the BA I have.. gonna style them all as either Alphas or "stolen" units similar to their Tactical Flexibility option in 30K.

[Wolfshade]

Disaster of disasters! I might be running out of prime.
This might slow down my progress somewhat.

Tactical 5 - all primed

Assault Squad 1 - In the fluid

Changed the fluid and I don't have quite enough fluid left to cover them all. Still 60 marines stripped in one tub not bad for £4 considering it would be £431 to buy fresh :eek:

[Psychosplodge]

£431?

[Wolfshade]

oops 331.

Assault squads are out.

Final tactical squad in the drink now.

[Psychosplodge]

You invested in an airbrush to do them all the same at once?

[Wolfshade]

No, maybe for the 2nd company...
My prime is a aerosol, but everything else is by brush.

Assault squads are out and final tactical squad is in.

[Psychosplodge]

Woohoo! SO the company will be done next week then?

[Wolfshade]

Nope, though I have next week off.
The plan is to get them all primed and the black bits done.

[Psychosplodge]

Old style black bits or new style?

[Wolfshade]

I'm not doing the edges of the armour

Something like this:

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/_wolfshade_/40k/IMG_20160915_125501_zps9neerasv.jpg

Though I realise that I have done all the knees black and some should be yellow or blue, D'oh.

Assault squads have been undercoated

[Psychosplodge]

It's just not the same without the black shoulder edges :D