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Aldramelech
10-16-2009, 11:33 PM
Someone at my local club has proposed this:

Army Composition-
500 points
1 troops choice minimum
No named characters
No figure with more than 2 wounds
The rest is up to each player but you stick with what you choose for the length
of the league

Each player plays all other players twice. One player sets up the battlefield on
a 4'x4' for the first game and the opponent sets it up for the second game with
one objective in each set up (both should be played in one club night).
The person who sets up the battlefield decides on any special rules such as
night fighting or infiltrate etc (these must be declared before either
battlefield is set up. ie if the person who will be setting up the 2nd
battlefield wants to use nightfighting for the first turn he must declare this
before the first battlefield is set up).
3 points for a win and 1 for a draw. Points will be scored for table quarters
held, objective held and casualties inflicted in points. No game may last more
than 6 turns.

I would like to make one rule change.
To make 'true line of sight' work on these skirmish games I propose that only
figures that can actually see and be seen by enemy figures may fire and take
casualties (ie a unit of 10 Marines spot a unit of 10 Orks but 4 of the Orks are
behind a large boulder out of sight, only the 6 Orks which can be seen can be
shot at and take wounds and likewise fire back).

Im up for it. What do you think?

DarkLink
10-17-2009, 01:29 AM
My first though is that I can take a Land Raider with 5 Grey Knights and a Brother Captain with a psycannon.

Sounds like 40k in 40 minutes, with less restrictions. I personally like the small games, though. Nice change of pace. The basic premise is sound, it just becomes difficult to balance.

Aldramelech
10-17-2009, 02:26 AM
Hes been thinking about this for awhile now.

Im looking forward to trying it. Just need to figure out my 500pt Guard list.

RocketRollRebel
10-17-2009, 03:19 AM
sounds cool just add in the 4th ed armor restrictions for combat patrols maybe

the one
10-17-2009, 09:47 AM
Yes I agree with the above post.

Otherwise thats quite good, but will you make all units scoring for objectives and table quaters? Otherwise you may end up with people taking a few troops anyway.

Aldramelech
10-17-2009, 09:54 AM
I thought Id go with this:

Platoon Commander + 4 Guardsmen

Infantry Squad - Flamer, Auto cannon
Infantry Squad - Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
Infantry Squad - Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
Mortar Squad - Three Mortars

5 x Ratlings

Leaman Russ, Las cannon.

500Pts dead on.

Morgrim
10-17-2009, 07:26 PM
*snickers* This is pretty much what I do already, half my battles. The other half I'll drag up to 700-800 points. Really, the only impact on my playstyle is that I take a dracon instead of an archon and I can't take my talos; both perfectly reasonable for the points limit.

I can testify that they're good fun, nice quick battles especially good if you're testing something odd. Like a wych cult. Or 'just how many Death Co can I fit in one army and oh god I'm never doing that again' as the battle plan is undone by a single empty raider and a large patch of trees...

Aldramelech
10-18-2009, 12:20 AM
Yes I agree with the above post.

Otherwise thats quite good, but will you make all units scoring for objectives and table quaters? Otherwise you may end up with people taking a few troops anyway.

Dont know, I'll have to ask him.

Cryl
01-20-2010, 10:09 AM
Good luck, games at that points level are always really fun. I like combat patrol as it makes things like heavy bolters actually dangerous!

Aldramelech
01-20-2010, 10:09 AM
Goodbye

Melissia
01-20-2010, 10:43 AM
sounds cool just add in the 4th ed armor restrictions for combat patrols maybe
Agreed. It should really be entirely footslogging.



500 points
1 troops choice minimum
No named characters
No figure with more than 2 wounds


Palatine w/ Book, Cloak, BP, Eviscerator, and Retinue:
-- 9 Celestians w/ 2 flamers, Frags
-- Veteran w/BP, PW, Frags

18 Battle Sisters w/ 2 Flamers
-- Veteran w/Book, Bolt Pistol + CCW, Auspex


It's not perfect, but it'd be fun to try out. Hide the celestians behind the large Battle Sister Squad, use them to assault or counter-assault.

Absolutionis
01-20-2010, 02:42 PM
2 Wounds minimum is really hating on New Tyranids.

If you're proposing a league full of small squads of common and elite soldiers duking it out, it seems unfair to exclude Tyranid Warriors, Lictors, Raveners, or even Rippers.
Some Armies would also be rather hard pressed to find an HQ with two wounds or less.

Plus, if you're going to essentially ban Monstrous Creatures, you may as well ban vehicles.

Duke
01-20-2010, 04:59 PM
That is true that the new Bugs would be hit with a nerf bat... That said, small games are great fun. I want pics!

Duke

PS- Aldra, no changing avatar pics without prior approval! lol

Madness
01-20-2010, 05:33 PM
During the 2nd edition era we had a 600pt tournament, only wargear that costed <=50pt, any independent character could be used as army leader, no special chars, it was a blast. I'm not sure 5th edition will work on such a small scale, but I fully endorse the proj.

therealjohnny5
01-20-2010, 05:38 PM
That is true that the new Bugs would be hit with a nerf bat... That said, small games are great fun. I want pics!

Duke

PS- Aldra, no changing avatar pics without prior approval! lol

Agreed....:D

absolutely love small games, and Ald i'd have to agree bro..had no idea who i was reading for like the first 3 posts...

Aldramelech
01-21-2010, 01:43 AM
Goodbye

Aldramelech
01-28-2010, 03:17 AM
Goodbye