Stormtalon Hover Strike + Snap Shots

[ElectricPaladin]

So, the stormtalon has a special rule, hover strike, that lets you set its BS to 5 versus a whole slew of targets, provided you allow the stormtalon to act as a skimmer for the turn.

There are also a number of things that can force a stormtalon to fire snap shots, like being shaken as the result of a penetrating hit or doing an evasive maneuver.

Does hover strike pre-empt being forced to fire snap shots, or does being forced to fire snap shots pre-empt hover strike?

[JMichael]

You cannot modify the BS of snap shots.
The Stormtalon has to not only be in Hover mode and change it's type to Skimmer (not Fast Skimmer!), but must also remain stationary. I believe you would still get the Pinning special rule for all shots while in Hover Strike, regardless of them being Snap Shots or not.

From the current 6th edition Rulebook FAQ

Q: Can the BS1 of a Snap Shot ever be modified by special rules that
modify the BS of a model’s Shooting attack (such as Tau
markerlights, Space Marine Signums or Sergeant Telion’s Voice of
Experience)? (p13)
A: No.

[Vlad78]

But does the special rule still apply with 6th.

The stormtalon is not listed as being able to remain stationary in the conversion table contrary to walkyries and stormravens.

+ the hoversrike rule looks like the 'strafing run' rule except that it says you have to turn him into a skimmer (which is like the stationary rule) but remain still. But as I said, the stormtalon is not supposed to be able to remain stationnary and move like a skimmer as depicted in the conversion table for 6th edition at end of the rulebook.

So my question is, do we apply the 5th ed rules for the storm RAW without taking into account the new strafing run rule and the conversion table at the end of the rulebook and use the stormtalon as a skimmer which can't move when using hoverstrike?
Or do we apply the hoverstrike rule as the strafing run rule, meaning the storm doesn't turn into a skimmer?

Logically it would be the first choice (it's a silly question), but I can't understand why they didn't make of the stormtalon a stationary flyer with strafing run instead of giving him a special rule. (and perhaps skyfire to help him shoot flyers when stationary, which would help to make this 130-155 pts 2 HP flyer worthwhile in itself and not only because it's the only space marine flyer)

[Nabterayl]

Hover Strike still works as written - it is similar to Strafing Run, but it is not Strafing Run. For the reasons Jmichael said, though, it doesn't override the Snap Shot rules.

[JMichael]

Though since your are counted as a skimmer and don't' move...you won't gain he 5++ from Jink!

[DarkLink]

If you Snap Fire, you hit on 6's regardless of your BS. BS4, BS5, it doesn't matter, you're Snap Firing and thus hitting on 6's. That's how the rules work, and that's how GW has ruled on tangentially related issues.

[Bob821]

[QUOTE=JMichael;264064]You cannot modify the BS of snap shots.
The Stormtalon has to not only be in Hover mode and change it's type to Skimmer (not Fast Skimmer!), but must also remain stationary.

The rules state that if a flyer is hovering it is treated as a fast skimmer! Page 81!

[Shotgun Justice]

[QUOTE=JMichael;264064]You cannot modify the BS of snap shots.
The Stormtalon has to not only be in Hover mode and change it's type to Skimmer (not Fast Skimmer!), but must also remain stationary.

The rules state that if a flyer is hovering it is treated as a fast skimmer! Page 81!

The Stormtalon does not use the Hover rule discussed on p.81 - it uses it's own rule called Hover Strike. The distinction is that the Stormtalon does not have Hover listed as its type in the Profiles table on p.135 of the mini rule bok