If you were given £1000 to make a 40k army, how would you do it?

[RGilbert26]

Evening all, just thought id ask this question. There's a strong chance that at the end of the year when i finally manage to get this loan ive been trying to get for a while, that i'll have just over £1000 left. Currently im not sure if i would use all of it for a 40k army but i'd love to hear some of your ideas on how to go about using it. Any suggestions are welcome and im aiming for a 1500/2000 point army.

[Kirsten]

I would probably invest in another horus heresy legion army personally, easy to spend £1000 and make 2,000 points. Otherwise I would probably use it to buy a plastic army, and a lot of terrain to go with it

[Deadlift]

How about a Titan :)

Personally if I were to spend 1K on 40k I would be looking at FW products. Most likely a space marine army from one of the badab books, Space Sharks maybe would be an option as there seems to be a few minotaurs popping up at the moment (nothing wrong with that I should add)
But don't forget Dark Angels are now rumoured for January, so if your interested might be an idea to wait a bit :)

[RGilbert26]

Well if I get the loan then I'd have the money in the new year anyway.

[wittdooley]

For some reason the banker in me is saying, "spending 'extra' loan money on toys doesn't seem like the most responsible decision......"

[lobster-overlord]

FW Table FTW. A complete drop troop army otherwise.

[RGilbert26]

Well it's money to pay off a CC and make overdraft go over £0, if my maths is correct then it would be £1000 left. Obviously I don't have to and perhaps shouldn't spend it all on hobby. Just thinking aloud...if I am left with £1000 then I wouldn't need to borrow as much :P

[Wildcard]

Here are some ideas you can ask about yourself:

- Is there any dream project for you? Like building the first company of your favourite space marine army? Emperors tank battalions?

- Are you looking for some competitive army, random units, or just something thats really nice to paint and build and you'd just have to figure a way to play them?

- Would you consider upgrading your previous army to be usable for bigger games?
- Would you consider buying 2 new armies £500 each that you've wanted?

- Is there a one project that under normal circumstances would be a definite no-no? Like the titan previously mentioned (i believe it will cost with arms up to 450-500, depending the model and race ofcource).

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Here is my personal 1k€ spendlist:

- Warhound titan has been on my wish-to-do list for atleast 5 years now. Currently the problem is that i am trying to gather pure Grey Knight list that would be suitable and self sufficient on any average apocalypse table. Hence i do not know how would that warhound titan fit there in both looks, paint themes and fluff. The litte optimist in me has been for a while now been hoping for FW to come up with some new Grey Knight stuff that would be awesome to use (and play against) in apocalypse game!

Thats why its not included in actual list (yet i would be more than tempted, and there is a slight possibility that i would end up getting 2x of Warhounds.. :)

Grey Knights:

6x GK Terminator Box, 35€ total: 210€
5x GK SS box, 26€ total: 130
4x Landraider (yet non-determined variant), 59€ total: 236€
1x Stormraven, 65€
5x Razorback 33€, total 165

Total 806€.

Then i would add some bits:
- 10x Sanquinus guard jump packs to "Unique Elite Unit for apocalypse. Maybe not fluffy, definately not in the rules, but a cool project i saw a while ago and was sold immediately.
Forge world GK Vehicle door accessories for those listed (plus the others i have already, 2x landraider, 3x razorback, 2x stormraven, 1x chimera atleast).
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Or then i would just get Imperial Guard Tanks and Super Heavy Tanks with the whole money :)

EDIT: Depending on the size of the loan, and the payback schedule, always try to get some extra out of it. On the larger loans with longer payment options, you usually tend to get the money easier, and with no extra reasons.

Just try to go to bank and say "I would like to get 1k to buy plastic toy soldiers" :)

Jokes aside, it never sucks more than when you need a loan for some large payment, and when the deadline closes you find out that you f*cked up the calculations somehow and are now few hundred short. Or the month(s) afterwards..

[wittdooley]

Well it's money to pay off a CC and make overdraft go over £0, if my maths is correct then it would be £1000 left. Obviously I don't have to and perhaps shouldn't spend it all on hobby. Just thinking aloud...if I am left with £1000 then I wouldn't need to borrow as much :P

To me this reads: I'm taking a loan to pay off another loan (which is what a CC is). I just. Yikes.

If you're going to have "extra" money (which you'll still have to pay back....) I'd only spend £200 tops, if any at all. Get a few glamour models from FW. Angron or something else nice.

[RGilbert26]

wittdooley if you aren't going to contribute then leave the thread alone.

[BatMarine]

He is contributing to someone not going bankrupt, economically speaking, that's actually quite valuable.

[Uncle Nutsy]

I'm with witt on this. As nice as it would be to drop a thousand quid on an army, I'd use that money to start paying off that loan.

[Deadlift]

As sage advice goes, Witt, Bat and Nutsy do have a point about the extra £,s. But this isn't a money management forum and your likely to splurge. My money is DA are going to be quite awesome when they hit and to be honest you could start a very nice army with a quarter or half of your intended spend. Hell £250 will buy you an honest start to a Deathwing armie, £168 = 30 Terminators, plus £30 for the codex and £52 on some other new DA stuff. You get new stuff and you get to save a 3/4 of of your intended splash too :)
I don't know about you Gilbert, but if I am surrounded by piles of plastic I get a bit overwhelmed. Small chunks could be better for your painting too :)
Either way what ever you decide to do, good luck and I look forward to seeing some cool painted minis in the new year.

[RGilbert26]

I'll rephrase - if you are not going to contribute to this thread by giving suggestions and ideas of what you would do if someone handed you £1000 to build a 40k army, then LEAVE THIS THREAD ALONE.

Just because i decided to explain where the money was coming from does not mean i want people giving me their opinion on whether or not i should use loan money for a 40k army. If i wanted sound economical advice i would talk to my bank or an expert, all im after is ideas from other people.

There's no garantee that im going to get the money anyway or that im going to use all of it on an army, i just wanted help in thinking about it.

As Deadlift says this isn't a money management forum so please keep your opinions on money to yourself.

Anyway back to the point of the thread and thank you to those of you who have contributed your ideas/suggestions.

[Kirsten]

If i wanted sound economical advice i would talk to my bank or an expert

lol, good going keeping those seperate, don't go to a bank for expert advice :P

definitely a good opportunity for a nice big centre piece like a titan, or those awesome forgeworld urban terrain tiles

[RGilbert26]

Im not really after a Titan, if I was more skilled then id probably go for a Warhound. I'd love to buy the urban terrain tiles but I don't play games at home so they wouldn't get used often.

[Wolfshade]

For some reason the banker in me is saying, "spending 'extra' loan money on toys doesn't seem like the most responsible decision......"

I agree. Or invest that money so you can get some return to pay back the loan and set me up for a continual steady stream of 40k goodness.

I've worked out how I would spend £21k completing my BA army.

But I think I would probably go for a ForgeWorld DKoK :)

Or a converted SM army with FW goodness, eitherway there will be FW!

FW FTW!

[RGilbert26]

I like FW but I'm not a huge fan of their resin, while it has more bubbles I'm a lot happier using Finecast even though FW resin has a lot more detail.

[Wolfshade]

How about a huge Green Tide, what is more fun that turning up with 180 boyz (30 boyz per mob x 6 troops)

[Psychosplodge]

A fully airborne Valkyrie mounted droptroop army, Though first I'd find a reliable discount supplier for the non FW models to get 20% more stuff, that or a gtx 690....

[Wolfshade]

What is it with you and your gtx 690? Stick with gt85 that's what I say

[Psychosplodge]

because they're so shiny and epic, and fast...until they're replaced in six months by something faster...

[Wolfshade]

I feel sorry for the people who dropped £££s getting some triple SLI action which we can now do on 1 board

[Psychosplodge]

I suppose it does give a certain amount of redundancy, and it can be faster in some instances as it reduces bottlenecks?

[Herzlos]

I'd probably blow it all on some pretty cool scenery. In reality it'd probably only land me a single 6x4' table all set up, but I'd get more out of it than an army.

I'm actually curious how much my existing army would cost now, but I'm too scared to do the math.

[Lost Vyper]

I would get PRO Painted Eldar army. Maybe just 1500p, with lots of details and magnetized. It would be easy to contribute to that army later on. Fe. Blue Table Painting or something like that, i would plan the painting schemes and such and make it look like no other Eldar army ever...

[Psychosplodge]

I'm actually curious how much my existing army would cost now, but I'm too scared to do the math.

I couldn't replace my command squad, it cost £70 in bitz when they still sold bitz individually.

[RGilbert26]

Heh thanks to the last two posters for putting the discussion back on topic, interestingly you have reminded me that I could do with getting a new PC lol.

[Kirsten]

to be honest if I had £1,000 I would buy a gaming PC too

[RGilbert26]

I've always thought about doing a DKoK army but the issue i have is that's a lot of resin. The amount of time i would have to put in cleaning the models, repairing mold lines and slips, getting replacement parts and bending back weapons would most likely remove any fun from the army. Granted once ive done that i just have to paint the army and i don't have to buy it all in one go, I'm not sure if I'd be able to stay interested.

[Deadlift]

How about a nice airbrush and compressor (if you don't already own one), loads of fun and makes painting armies sooooo much quicker and you can get some nice effects too. Obviously you don't have to spend a grand. £300 would get you started easy.

Just been reading a Flesh Tearers book, I think they could be fun to play if a list was built with heir fluff in mind too.

[Wolfshade]

I know when I was thinking of my DKoK, that was the whole point, they would cost a lot, but I would match that with investing a lot in their creation

[wittdooley]

I like the DKoK I have, but darn if their weapons aren't painfully, brutally brittle. I've snapped quite a few from pretty normal handling.

Given that the HH series is underway, spending $1K on those models would build a solid army.

1 Legion Command Group - $25
3 10-Man Legion Squads w/ Phobos Bolters -- $168
3 Deimos Rhinos for them -- $99
1 Contempor Talon (3 models) - $150
1 10-Man Cataphract Squad w/ Weapons - $94
1 Spartan Assault Tank (to bring the Cataphract Pain) - $95
1 10 Man Legion Boarding Squad - $64
1 Caestus Assault Ram (for the boarding squad, of course) - $95
1 3-Bike Squad Scimitar Jetbikes (because who doesn't like flying wangs?) $70
1 Legion Fellblade (because now that you have nearly 3000 points of HH army, you need a Lord of War) $155

That puts you at $1015 and Gives you, depending on how you load them out, between 3500-4000 points of Horus Heresy army deliciousness.

[RGilbert26]

Which would be great but there isnt anywhere for me to play 30k :P

Im really tempted to use the Cataphractii Terminators as i love their look, though ive never managed to field terminators properly, mainly due to being so expensive points wise. Could field a unit of 10 with two twin-linked autocannons as assault cannons have them walk? Meh not sure.

EDIT:

I don't use an airbrush and while yes it can speed up painting large groups of models, i would have to train myself on how to effectively use one and im not really interested in doing that.

[Animus Silvanna]

Well as this is a hypothetical question because I would never be able to just plunk down $1,590.00 ish on any random day. But i would go all out on a full on Valkyrie/ Vendetta army with Elysians from FW 6 Valks with storm troopers w/melta spam, 3 Vendetta's one with the punisher cannon. maybe a one of there badass looking sniper teams or 2 and anything else i could get till i meet 2k points but that would be the base of the list. Also it could double for henchmen in my Grey Knights army =D.

Ofcourse Dark Angels is always on the table. GW has done a fantastic job of making all the army LOOK like they are different armies not just different colors of the same thing. I'm hoping they get shiny new jet bikes.

[wittdooley]

Well as this is a hypothetical question because I would never be able to just plunk down $1,590.00 ish on any random day. But i would go all out on a full on Valkyrie/ Vendetta army with Elysians from FW 6 Valks with storm troopers w/melta spam, 3 Vendetta's one with the punisher cannon. maybe a one of there badass looking sniper teams or 2 and anything else i could get till i meet 2k points but that would be the base of the list. Also it could double for henchmen in my Grey Knights army =D.

Ofcourse Dark Angels is always on the table. GW has done a fantastic job of making all the army LOOK like they are different armies not just different colors of the same thing. I'm hoping they get shiny new jet bikes.

Those Elysian Sniper teams really are great, aren't they?

[Popsical]

I have to say that the OP should have left out how you obtained this money.
Spending 1000 quid of loan money on toy soldiers is a god awful example to the younger members of the forum.
Lets just hope none of them think that this is a great idea.
During the biggest recession in 80 years, kids shouldnt be given flights of fancy such as this.

[wittdooley]

Which would be great but there isnt anywhere for me to play 30k :P

Im really tempted to use the Cataphractii Terminators as i love their look, though ive never managed to field terminators properly, mainly due to being so expensive points wise. Could field a unit of 10 with two twin-linked autocannons as assault cannons have them walk? Meh not sure.

EDIT:

I don't use an airbrush and while yes it can speed up painting large groups of models, i would have to train myself on how to effectively use one and im not really interested in doing that.

Aside from the Spartan and Fellblade, this should work as a reasonable 40k army too.

[Mr Mystery]

I'd do what I did when I spent £3,000.

Go mental!

[Deadlift]

I have to say that the OP should have left out how you obtained this money.
Spending 1000 quid of loan money on toy soldiers is a god awful example to the younger members of the forum.
Lets just hope none of them think that this is a great idea.
During the biggest recession in 80 years, kids shouldnt be given flights of fancy such as this.

For ****s sake mate, how many teens go into a bank and get a loan nowadays ? The preachiness in this thread has been done, the guy wants to have some fun with a grand.
You know what Gilbert, when you spend the dough, take a photo of the haul and post it on here for the crack. Would be fun to see. :)

[RGilbert26]

Thanks Deadlift, clearly people can't read properly. Just to point out im 27 :P

Im currently trying to find as many cool space marine conversions as i can for inspiration but it's hard work - a sticky in one of these forums would be great, where people can post cool pictures they've found (would save me the hassle). Funny thing is im also thinking about starting a Tale of Four Gamers with my local GW store manager where there's a set monthly budget and targets to meet each week, it would essentially remove the 'need' for me to spend the left over loan money. I might even use half or a bit more for a decent gaming PC.

My only issue at the moment is that i've been a bit of a hobby butterfly and it's annoying.

[White Tiger88]

1000 Pounds eh? well i would say thats a good 3000-4000pt heresy Era army of any chapter you want!

[wittdooley]

Thanks Deadlift, clearly people can't read properly. Just to point out im 27 :P

Im currently trying to find as many cool space marine conversions as i can for inspiration but it's hard work - a sticky in one of these forums would be great, where people can post cool pictures they've found (would save me the hassle). Funny thing is im also thinking about starting a Tale of Four Gamers with my local GW store manager where there's a set monthly budget and targets to meet each week, it would essentially remove the 'need' for me to spend the left over loan money. I might even use half or a bit more for a decent gaming PC.



I don't think you should begrudge people too much for trying to give you financial advise in this instance especially when irresponsible borrowing is a primary factor for the economy being in the toilet; I mean, I'm playing along but I still think its an awful fiscal decision because it really isn't "extra" money, it's extra debt.

[ragnarcissist]

i would say "what the heck is this? monopoly money?!?!?!" :p


but seriously i would go nuts and buy tons and tons of fenrisian wolves and thunderwolf cav and make that "all wolf" army that looks oh so fun to play!!

[Kirsten]

1000 Pounds eh? well i would say thats a good 3000-4000pt heresy Era army of any chapter you want!

legion ;)


I don't think you should begrudge people too much for trying to give you financial advise in this instance especially when irresponsible borrowing is a primary factor for the economy being in the toilet; I mean, I'm playing along but I still think its an awful fiscal decision because it really isn't "extra" money, it's extra debt.

Yet again, none of your business witt, he can spend his money on whatever he wants. He has also said repeatedly that this is a thought exercise, nobody should be giving anyone financial advice here

[RGilbert26]

Wittdooley as others have said I'm not interested in your opinion on money, I'm only interested in your opinion on what I could do with £1000 for a 40k army. I'm well within my right to begrudge people as I have clearly stated I'm not interested in anyone's advice on what I should or shouldn't do with left over money.

Now trying not to sound like a broken record - if you are not going to contribute to the thread then leave it alone!

[wittdooley]

Yet again, none of your business witt, he can spend his money on whatever he wants. He has also said repeatedly that this is a thought exercise, nobody should be giving anyone financial advice here

I'd tend to agree until he stated it on the forum. It wouldn't be an issue of he hadn't but I think it's irresponsible to not discourage that type of attitude.

@Gilbert-- And I did contribute with a full army list. But I've got two friends with that (poor) attitude towards borrowing money and I've watched how adversely it has affected them. It would highly discourage this. If you want new "play money" using "extra" from a bank loan isn't the solution. Sell some stuff you have lying around and that to fund the new hotness.

[RGilbert26]

Well my fault for be honest, regardless I'm not interested so please can we go back on topic.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I would buy all of the cheesecake, and build a fort. And make a suit of Iron Warrior power armour to sit in it with.

But in all seriousness, I would buy at least 1-3 companies of Dark Angels. :D

[Kirsten]

get an army of super heavy tanks, baneblades and shadowswords and stormlords oh my!

I would get a second legion, and an artillery company, and a shadowsword and a puppy and a...

[DarkLink]

lol, good going keeping those seperate, don't go to a bank for expert advice :P

Most banks would try and sell him another loan, or maybe a low interest quadruple reverse after market mortgage invested in a high yield hedge fund in equity stocks, after all. The fact that it doesn't make sense doesn't really matter, until the banking bubble bursts again and we hit another recession.

[Kirsten]

why on earth are you talking to me about banking practices? :confused:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Like we work in a bank or something?

I just want to live in Fort Tiramisu.

[White Tiger88]

why on earth are you talking to me about banking practices? :confused:

Beer makes people talk about random things......Such as why i am about to ask why your Pink Tank is getting run over by my Snow Camo Tiger2 ;)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Must... resist.... innuendo!!! :eek:

[RGilbert26]

I was wondering when you'd join this thread TDA, all we need now is EG to add her suggestion and I believe it's a full house :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Hey man, Wolves hunt in packs.

I think that a grand is mere pocket change to my lovely EG. :p

[RGilbert26]

Perhaps we all need to start talking about Eldar for her to appear? :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

That's usually how it works.

If I had a grand.... Then I would buy loads of Eldar for her. :D

[Wolfshade]

Fully kitted out DC army with dreads, astrorath, et al.

[RGilbert26]

Have you seen how many points 30 DC are with jump packs and thunder hammers?

[Wolfshade]

:D
Don't forget if you go for 6 squads of 30 then you can also get 36 DC Dreads...

[Deadlift]

That's usually how it works.

If I had a grand.... Then I would buy loads of Eldar for her. :D

Not a bad idea, a ghost army :)

[RGilbert26]

Have you also seen how many points one IG troop choice, just a tad high :p EDIT and how many men.

[Xenith]

I'd wait till C: DA is released then get an all Cataphracti deathwing army.

Super badass, and probably wont cost the full thousand.

You could then sell it on eBay to make some money back to be able to eat!

After my suggestion, please don't take offence, but splurging 1k on an army is a bad idea. You were oversold a loan, to pay off other loans, giving you more total debt. Transferring who you owe money to doesn't make it go away.

Being 27 doesnt automatically mean all your financial decisions are correct.

I would treat yourself, buy a couple of units, then buy the rest of the army when you pay off the rest of the loan.

[RGilbert26]

No offence taken Xenith though I do find it 'amusing' how many people are making assumptions about my personal finances.

[Wolfshade]

Have you though about getting all the Imperial Armour books instead?

[Psychosplodge]

All the primachs?

[RGilbert26]

While I'm sure the models will look great I'm not really interested in the Primarchs and there's only a few IA books that I want, though you have reminded me I need to get Siege of Vraks part 3.

[Wolfshade]

While I'm sure the models will look great I'm not really interested in the Primarchs and there's only a few IA books that I want, though you have reminded me I need to get Siege of Vraks part 3.

You need to get Siege of Vraks pt 3
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Armour_Books/IMPERIAL-ARMOUR-VOLUME-SEVEN-THE-SIEGE-OF-VRAKS-PART-THREE.html

[RGilbert26]

Okay you've lost me, what's the point of the above post?

[Wolfshade]

You asked me to remind you to get siege of vraks part 3 so I reminded you to get siege of vraks part 3.

[RGilbert26]

-.-

No i didn't....anyway.

[Wolfshade]

Oh yes, sorry mis read that post. Appologies.

Would you want to spend it on just one army or would you want scenery as well?

Like that big zone mortalis board?

[RGilbert26]

Sadly i don't play games at home so big scenery isn't the way to go. I have in the past bought and painted scenery for my local store.

[Diagnosis Ninja]

Mass Effect 3 Reapers; Counts as Necrons.

Reaper Destroyers as Monoliths
Harvesters as Death Scythe / Night Scythe
Cannibals as Warriors
Collectors as Immortals
Triarch Stalkers as Praetorians
Banshees as Wraiths
Harbinger possessing a Collector Captain as an Overlord.

Assuming direct control.


Glorious.

[RGilbert26]

Im not sure what you mean.

[Psychosplodge]

Like that big zone mortalis board?

With loads of buildings, and objectives and other scenery, And then buy loads of necromunda...

[Mud Duck]

get an army of super heavy tanks, baneblades and shadowswords and stormlords oh my!

I would get a second legion, and an artillery company, and a shadowsword and a puppy and a...


Tanks, I think that I could get behind that line of thinking. Say 9 Russes, with the bits and magnets to swap out any and all configurations.
A couple of the Forge World tank destroyers.
Hydra turrets
A couple of the Heavy tanks
A couple Super Heavies
And a Warhound for the LoLs

[Kirsten]

I already have many russes, I would get three basilisks, two more manticores, then a variety of minotaurs, valdors, etc. for a couple of super heavy squadrons

[Aegwymourn]

Mass Effect 3 Reapers; Counts as Necrons.

Reaper Destroyers as Monoliths
Harvesters as Death Scythe / Night Scythe
Cannibals as Warriors
Collectors as Immortals
Triarch Stalkers as Praetorians
Banshees as Wraiths
Harbinger possessing a Collector Captain as an Overlord.

Assuming direct control.


Glorious.

If someone took the time to convert it properly it would be so epic.

[RGilbert26]

What are the full resin IG tanks like? Are they similar to the StormEagle where stuff bent?

[White Tiger88]

Must... resist.... innuendo!!! :eek:

Hey hey hey....Since when do you resist???

Also Eldar are space Pansies...Other then Dark Eldar who wouldn't want soul eating weapons?

[Charistoph]

1) Complete my DIY Black Templar Crusade.

if available:

2) Build a Gue'nam Wing army from the fandex I'm working on.

[RGilbert26]

I like the idea of doing BT though it would have to use the SM rules as im not a huge fan of current BT codex.

[RGilbert26]

Currently at the momentum thinking of doing an entirely old armour space marine army and I'm thinking of using a Terminator Captain, wearing Cataphractii armour. Annoying thing is there isn't a single model yet so I either find a bits site selling one on its own or I'm gonna have to use the others for other HQ choices. I'll need to find a skull helmet that fits the hole for a Chaplain and green stuff robes for a Librarian. Sadly not that good with green stuff to make robes/tabards.

[Kirsten]

a few conversion bits sites do skull helmets, there is one on the plastic chaos warrior sprue too. robes you could always just get some tabard pieces like from the grey knight terminator box

[Mr Mystery]

Currently at the momentum thinking of doing an entirely old armour space marine army and I'm thinking of using a Terminator Captain, wearing Cataphractii armour. Annoying thing is there isn't a single model yet so I either find a bits site selling one on its own or I'm gonna have to use the others for other HQ choices. I'll need to find a skull helmet that fits the hole for a Chaplain and green stuff robes for a Librarian. Sadly not that good with green stuff to make robes/tabards.

Tomb Kings Skellies have a skull without the jaw that will likely suffice.