Clothes make the man...

[dark messenger]

But DO they.....?

I'm wearing a suit at the moment and have been told I look pretty sharp but to be honest I'm not so sure. I don't exactly look like James Bond or anything and to my eyes I look just as good dressed for a night with my mates.
Besides I hate wearing suits.

So I put it to you good people of BoLS... does a sharp dressed man really make any difference to you? Are you, yourself, a man who prefers to look like you've just walked out of a cologne advert? And does it affect how you see yourself/how others see you?

[alshrive]

i have to wear suits day in day out for work and i now resent having to wear them at any other time. Give me my jeans and a geeky t-shirt at any time.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Well I know that EG likes suits, I do too to be fair. :p

Looking smart feels good. Especially when my hair is short and tidy too. :D

[Mr Mystery]

Clothes do make the man.

For instance, I am comprised entirely of TDA's lost socks.

[Denzark]

Skinny jeans, particularly with elasticated bottoms, and deck shoes or espadrilles - are the most heinous dress crimes a man can make at the moment. Should only ever be considered by boy bands, and androgynous persons. All other men should realise how unmanly a look this is - particularly if coupled with a stupid quiffy haircut or comedy shaved sideburns.

Clothes let you know a lot about the indvidual. looking smart doth not automatically a square conformist make - neither does looking like a cross between a bizarre magazine centrefold and a David beckham Lookalike, make you an out there, edgy reble taking it to the man - you just look like a metrosexual mouth breather.

[Wolfshade]

A suit does make the man, and you can tell alot about a person by the cut of their cloth.
The company I work for is a joint venture between two different companies, you can tell which company the board memebers work for based on their suits, one company they wear (nasty) polyester suits the others don't.

But if you are going to wear one, make sure that it is tailored to you. One of the things I love doing is suit shopping :) though now my tailed jacket is now too big on me so I'll need to get that altered.

[Psychosplodge]

I do enjoy an excuse to wear the suit and proper shirt (with cufflinks not buttons), but then again I don't have to wear one for work.

Other than that, Comfort is the most important factor. Hoody, t-shirt, and comfortable trousers...

[Wolfshade]

Oh yes certainly, like for instance the suit I wear to work is not a suit I would wear out. It also galls me that I am made to wear a suit (or at least shirt & tie) when my female co-workers are not made to dress equally smart. I think it is disgraceful that management considers them to be not as professional as their male counter parts and so doesn't expect them to dress as smart.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Should only ever be considered by boy bands.

I was in a band, and probably will be again, does that count? :p

Also Mystery, give me my socks back! *shakes fist*

[alshrive]

Mystery cannot give you your socks back, they are somewhat integral to his being.....

[Wolfshade]

What is this madness, why would you have socks TDA? we are sock puppets!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Wait, hold the phone.... So we are socks, yet Mr Mystery is a composition of my lost socks? *head explodes*

[alshrive]

http://images.quickblogcast.com/0/2/5/0/7/181073-170520/sock_puppet_with_raw_sardine.jpg?a=25

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

A HERRING!

Ni!

[Wolfshade]

Wait, hold the phone.... So we are socks, yet Mr Mystery is a composition of my lost socks? *head explodes*

You can tell the people who haven't read the thread in its entireity...

[Psychosplodge]

You must bring us a shrubbery!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I can get LMFAO gear. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Do want. (http://www.partyrockclothing.com/shoes-and-accessories/shoes/men-s-party-rock-shoes-by-creative-recreation.html)

[eldargal]

Yes, clothes make the man.

Also, not all suits are made equally. While the ultimate expression is still Savile Row bespoke you are infinitely better off going to one of the reputable Indian tailors that visit the major cities (both in the UK and US) and having a bespoke suit made for you than buying off the rack. You can have such a suit made for a few hundred pounds, often cheaper than off the rack suits. You can have details altered to suit your build and height, shorter bodies for shorter men, wider lapels for broader chests, peak lapels instead of the ubiquitous notched etc.

The average off the rack or made to measure business suit is an insipid, dull looking thing and I can't really blame a chap for taking against them after being forced to wear them. But judging suits by their standards is like judging a nations cuisine by McDonalds.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Heh, well, you can dress me then. :p

Clearly know more about it than I do...

[Psychosplodge]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5w4w1pAQG1r2b3wjo4_250.gif

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Good film.

[Psychosplodge]

Indeed, shame about the soundtrack.

[eldargal]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3272&d=1352979963

[Psychosplodge]

“Every day I see dozens of girls tugging down their skirts because they are too short and guys pulling up their pants because they are too loose. Wouldn’t it just be easier to wear clothes that ****in’ fit?”

^This.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Thank the gods that I have never dressed like that.

[Wolfshade]

Thank the gods that I have never dressed like that.


It is just because smoking isn't cool

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I haven't dressed like either to be fair. :p

I'm too futuristic for this shiz. (http://eu.deusex-store.com/category/29_Deus-Ex-Official-Collection)

[Psychosplodge]

If that coat was leather I'd have one.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'll buy it anyway, I'm a sucker for cyberpunk/renaissance.

[scadugenga]

It's not just what you where, but also how you wear it.

The slickest suit in the world will do you no good unless you can feel comfortable in it.

[Denzark]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3272&d=1352979963

A nice example madam although I am not sure about the turn up trousers - very colonial.


I was in a band, and probably will be again, does that count? :p

Also Mystery, give me my socks back! *shakes fist*


TDA I hope you mean a manly rock band, but then you would not be wearing elastic-bottomed jeads and espadrilles. If you mean ballad warbling, quiff adorned buffoonic doyens of pre-pubescent bints, aka boy bands, then yes, it counts and you may wear such apparel with pride (in the name of love).

[Wolfshade]

It is quite a thing that a lot of men seem rather than wearing a suit, the suit seems to be wearing them...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Nope. I was in a rock/metal band, and I always wear this style of jeans.

http://www.ukshopsonline.net/images/JUK/EdwinED35RainbowSelvedgeLooseJeans.jpg

[eldargal]

It's not just what you where, but also how you wear it.

The slickest suit in the world will do you no good unless you can feel comfortable in it.

Quite true, and it is much easier to feel comfortable in a suit that has been made to fit you, not just altered to fit.:)

Have I mentioned that I hate denim and jeans? Horrid material fit for miners only and revolting looking garment. Also seemingly uncomfortable given all the complaints I hear about them.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Indeed! Unfortunately the human body is in constant flux!

[Wolfshade]

Nope. I was in a rock/metal band, and I always wear this style of jeans.
I hope they fit better than that!
I wear boot cut as I always wear boots

[Learn2Eel]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3273&d=1352986906

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I hope they fit better than that!
I wear boot cut as I always wear boots

Well yeah, I just meant the legs. The mid section fits pretty snugly.

I don't ever wear boots, either smart shoes, converse, or skater shoes (etnies, dc, vans, etc) for me.

[Psychosplodge]

It is quite a thing that a lot of men seem rather than wearing a suit, the suit seems to be wearing them...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5e65feG9l1qahhxwo1_500.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I also want a pair of these. Just for the lolz.

http://www.partyrockclothing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/a/party-rock-shoes-stacked_web_1.jpg

[Wolfshade]

Well yeah, I just meant the legs. The mid section fits pretty snugly.

I don't ever wear boots, either smart shoes, converse, or skater shoes (etnies, dc, vans, etc) for me.

My first boots :)
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/0aacc/products/1502/images/18013/M.272-E2__65019.1341574297.700.700.jpg

[Gotthammer]

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/Gotthammer/whythetuxedoalecbaldwin30rockmotivationalpostersfu nnyhotstupidfree.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My first boots :)
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/0aacc/products/1502/images/18013/M.272-E2__65019.1341574297.700.700.jpg

Mate.

[Psychosplodge]

My first boots :)
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/0aacc/products/1502/images/18013/M.272-E2__65019.1341574297.700.700.jpg

Mine were german para boots. Comfiest boots ever. Currently on two pairs of Doc Martins...

[lobster-overlord]

I currently have to wear a tie, dress shirt and dress slacks, and the most uncomfortable shoes ever.... I'm a frickin' McDonald's manager and I'm made to wear a suit minus the jacket. Not very comfortable for having to be shoved into a position by whomever is running the shift for the day.

I'm sooooo glad I found a better job (not that there are many jobs that are worse...)

[Denzark]

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/Gotthammer/whythetuxedoalecbaldwin30rockmotivationalpostersfu nnyhotstupidfree.jpg

Of course what is depicted here is not a Tuxedo but a Dinner Jacket...

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

I like wearing a suit, but I tend to normally wear dark and casual clothes, mainly black. I tend to like the classic evil villain style, so i have a beard too. I am more akin to Lupin the Third though.

[Mr Mystery]

My first boots :)
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/0aacc/products/1502/images/18013/M.272-E2__65019.1341574297.700.700.jpg

I'm on my fourth or fifth pair. Before long, I shall have a sixth! Though it does necessitate a trip to Camden and the one shop that stocks plus sizes.

[Gotthammer]

Of course what is depicted here is not a Tuxedo but a Dinner Jacket...

Yes, it is lacking in satin lapels, but the point remains true.

And regardless that quote is far too good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_P7yWnAAd0) to go past for any discussion on clothes (though the "we" line is used later when Jack is talking to his past and [one of his] future selves). I've used it myself on people when they question my being "overdressed"* - that or "out of my way, *****, I'm fabulous".

And it's not just good clothes - they have to be good fitting clothes styled to one's physique. For instance with a suit venting on the jacket can be quite important as if chosen poorly can lead to emphaisis of a gentleman's behind. Doublebreasted suits should be avoided unless you're a ganster or David Letterman. Belt, wallet, shoes & watchstrap should all match. You look slimmer in a size 12 if you're a size 12 than squeezing into a 10 etc.
Buying a suit off the rack can work, but wearing a suit should be no less comfortable than any other article of clothing - it is, after all, just a shirt, jacket and pants with a tie.

Whilst jeans and a t-shirt have their place, it doesn't hurt for people to try and look elegant every now and then. I wish it were winter here, so many more ways to look fancy.



* and it's always better to be overdressed than underdressed, at least that way everyone will be thinking you've got somewhere better to go after your current engagement ;)

[Denzark]

No the lapels look satin, a Tuxedo (at least to one born in the centre of the universe for good tailoring) normally refers to the white version. I will fully acknowledgemy pednatic snobbery across international colloquial boundaries, which is authorised in matters of gentleman's satorial elegance.

[Deadlift]

I get tons of freebie t-shirts and sweat shirts from different supplement companies, I get free tops and they get free advertisement :).
Bottoms are Nike joggers or 501s and converse boots, these are awesome boots for the gym as they have completely flat soles so help lifting nicely. I do have some Iron Maiden Vans for slobbing around in too, Casual smart is Ralph Lauren or Lacoste polos, jeans and timberland boots.

I do own a couple suits and I like Thomas Pink for my tailoring as they do bespoke shirts. I don't love wearing suits, my brother says I look like a big American fridge in one. Dress shoes are always by Churches brogues, expensive but worth it. Hackett is another favorite label of mine.

I also like Burberry for my winter coats and scarfs, but none of the check gear that's so linked with Chavs.

Eau da toilette is either, Safari by Ralph Lauren, Eqoiste by Chanel or farenheight by Dior.

Don't wear much jewellery, I wear a belcher necklace which was my grandfathers, wedding ring and an Omega sea master the wife bought me 10 years ago.
So yeah, I think I scrub up ok :)

[Mr Mystery]

Give it time, possibly June next year when my bonus hits, and I shall have a bespoke suit!

[Deadlift]

Give it time, possibly June next year when my bonus hits, and I shall have a bespoke suit!

It's worth every penny, nothing better than wearing something made to fit "you".

[Mr Mystery]

And once it's made, I know I'll have finally made it in life

[scadugenga]

Quite true, and it is much easier to feel comfortable in a suit that has been made to fit you, not just altered to fit.:)

That pretty much goes for any clothing. :)


Have I mentioned that I hate denim and jeans? Horrid material fit for miners only and revolting looking garment. Also seemingly uncomfortable given all the complaints I hear about them.

I think so, but then your preference for period-esque anachronistic clothing is pretty much a dead givaway. ;)

I think it's mostly a cultural phenomenon. I saw a lot fewer people wearing jeans on your side of the pond. It's much more common over here--and honestly, more comfortable to many. (Different types of denim).

The biggest complaint women have (and rightly so) is that every designer seems to have their own "take" on what a given size should be, and how it should fit a woman's body. There is no more frustrating thing for a woman to shop for, than trying to buy the "right" pair of jeans.

Holy.

Hells.

Ladies--if your man is with you...at a mall, no less...helping you buy jeans? Do not give him crap if some eye-candy draws his attention for a moment.

He's in the mall.

With you.

While you're trying to buy jeans.

That's grounds for canonization in some parts.

[eldargal]

Yes but you don't often see bespoke hoodies and crocs.:p

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

That would look strange. :p

[Mr Mystery]

Crocs looks weird anyway....

As for jeans? Comfy, hard wearing and the go to for me. Well, that and my baggies. Love my baggies.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Baggies?

[Mr Mystery]

Yeah. Baggies. Dead comfy. And most zip off to become shorts.

[Psychosplodge]

Yes but you don't often see bespoke hoodies

Pfft You get the right one and it lasts, My favourite/comfiest is nearly fifteen years old and still perfectly functional.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

My favourite brown hoody is pretty darn comfy. I just wish that women would stop stealing it. :p

[Wolfshade]

Baggies?

West Bromwich Albion (WBA), so called Baggies because they historically wore baggy shorts...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Interesante!

[eldargal]

My favourite brown hoody is pretty darn comfy. I just wish that women would stop stealing it. :p
If it is any consolation, if I steal it it will be burnt immediately so you won't have to worry about it being stolen again.:p

[Psychosplodge]

Harsh.

[Wolfshade]

Harsh.

It could be worse, he could still be wearing it. After all a brown hoodie, that sounds like it is an affront to the Lord.

[Psychosplodge]

True, I was cutting him some slack there...

[Mr Mystery]

Got three hoodies. Deadpool one, extra baggy big hood hoodie, and of course my Bugman's hoodie.

All three comfy, in their own way!

[Gotthammer]

I own two hoodies - both are N7, though different types.

[Psychosplodge]

four plain black, two slipknot, one dimmu borgir...I was tempted by a N7 one though...

[wittdooley]

Skinny jeans, particularly with elasticated bottoms, and deck shoes or espadrilles - are the most heinous dress crimes a man can make at the moment. Should only ever be considered by boy bands, and androgynous persons. All other men should realise how unmanly a look this is - particularly if coupled with a stupid quiffy haircut or comedy shaved sideburns.


But...But....in skinny jeans my junk looks huuuuge!

But seriously, I'm right with you. Unless you're the lead singer of a band or trying to be intentionally effeminate, skinny jeans should not be for men.

I wish I looked better in suits, quite frankly. As someone built like a brew keg, I just look like a gorilla in mine.

[Wolfshade]

Skinny jeans urgh, I can't get them wide enough to go over my thighs the joys of being a cyclist :) Plus I could never get my boots under them!

[Psychosplodge]

You'd have to wear them tucked in your boots...

I doubt they'd still be considered "skinny Jeans" if I fit into them...

[Wolfshade]

Actually it is a real bind, I have to have jeans with a too large waist to fit my thighs :(

[Psychosplodge]

I can't get trousers with long enough leg for my waist...

[alshrive]

I can't get trousers with long enough leg for my waist...

I have the opposite problem! i can't get legs long enough for my trousers!

[Denzark]

I own no hoodies, espadrilles, nor jeans with elastic bottoms. However i do have a man bag - courtesy of Gamer's 6th Edition...

[Wolfshade]

I own no hoodies, espadrilles, nor jeans with elastic bottoms. However i do have a man bag - courtesy of Gamer's 6th Edition...

Leather man bag, height of gaming chic!

[alshrive]

i have the 6th Ed one, the Fantasy 8th Ed one and the old shoulder bag they did with miniatures compartment etc..... although it looks worse if you try to use them all at once...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

If it is any consolation, if I steal it it will be burnt immediately so you won't have to worry about it being stolen again.:p

Awwwwh baby, you wound me so.
When you meet me you have my permission to burn it. :D

It's just so fluffy and warm, very serviceable in winter. By the way, you won't be burning my N7 or purple hoodies. At least not until you put some commitment into this. :p

[Denzark]

I think EG is the last lady I would address as 'baby'... unless I had her tied up some how to prevent retribution.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I call her all sorts. :p

She understands that they are just Salopian idioms.

[Deadlift]

But...But....in skinny jeans my junk looks huuuuge!


I wish I looked better in suits, quite frankly. As someone built like a brew keg, I just look like a gorilla in mine.

Lol, yeah I can appreciate that :)

[dark messenger]

Yeah... the odd-fitting trousers problem. Bane of my life!
Having narrow hips and shorter legs while having muscles built up from years of football and martial arts - I find that I have to buy tailored trousers for my suit in order to look smart. Otherwise I just look like some musclehead someone dragged off the streets and dressed up for shiggles... Not good.

Love my standard black hoodie and joggers combo or the dreaded jeans just to hang out in. But usually make an effort on a night out. It's just better although it don't help with the confidence none lol

[Psychosplodge]

I think shiggles may be my new favourite word.

[dark messenger]

Really? I'm glad someone appreciates it outside my group of friends, I've been using (and having) shiggles for many years now lol

[Psychosplodge]

Yes, really.

In return I offer you adawbs. :D

[scadugenga]

But...But....in skinny jeans my junk looks huuuuge!

But seriously, I'm right with you. Unless you're the lead singer of a band or trying to be intentionally effeminate, skinny jeans should not be for men.

I wish I looked better in suits, quite frankly. As someone built like a brew keg, I just look like a gorilla in mine.

This is why I bought my tux (sorry, Brits--I understand that a tux to you means white jacket--but it's slightly less formal over here. ;P) tailored to my specifications for my wedding.

In a rented tux (when they can find one that fits...stupid short people monopolizing the garment industry...) I have been told I either look like executive security, or a casino pit boss.

While neither are necessarily bad things when it comes to preserving one's personal space--it just simply does not do for one's wedding.

[scadugenga]

I think EG is the last lady I would address as 'baby'... unless I had her tied up some how to prevent retribution.

And even then, Denz...violence would probably still occur.

[fuzzbuket]

jeans+polo+hoodie+hi-tops.

**** it i ****ing love high-tops.

oh and i like suits. wearing suits is well comfy ^_^ (and slaters, the shop, is possibly the best place ever!)

edit: and if TDA wears any of that lmfaNO stuff i have permission to shoot? grrr.

[dark messenger]

Yes, really.

In return I offer you adawbs. :D

Adawbs? I have no idea what that means but I do like the way it sounds when I say it... care to enlighten me Psychosplodge?

[Psychosplodge]

Adawbs? I have no idea what that means but I do like the way it sounds when I say it... care to enlighten me Psychosplodge?

Short for adorable, used in place of squee or cute. I'm spreading it as far as I can cause I prefer it. Already got two people using it!

[dark messenger]

Sounds fun. Alright, I shall spread the word (literally in this case)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

jeans+polo+hoodie+hi-tops.

**** it i ****ing love high-tops.

oh and i like suits. wearing suits is well comfy ^_^ (and slaters, the shop, is possibly the best place ever!)

edit: and if TDA wears any of that lmfaNO stuff i have permission to shoot? grrr.

Only EldarGal has my permission to do that. Plus, I actually can do the shuffle. :p

[Psychosplodge]

Plus, I actually can do the shuffle. :p

That's not the sort of thing you want to admit in public.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I openly admit it.
Just because you have a narrow view when it comes to music, doesn't mean that I have to. :p

[Psychosplodge]

Oh there's a narrow view but even a wide view doesn't generally encompass lamefo...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

You want to know why I like LMFAO?

Because I am quite frankly very tired of the same stuff being churned out by the metal industry "feel sorry for me because bad stuff". No, I want to listen to some feel good music, LMFAO has songs about being awesome and having a good time. I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Sure, it's cheesy, but it's catchy and in that respect it's really quite good.

[Psychosplodge]

That's not metal :D lol
that whiney emo ****e like bvb and botdf and the scremo like bmth....
the problem is things like NME, Kerrang, and metal hammer spam the same "new" **** every month, but overlook the new stuff by bands that don't follow where they're trying to push the genre. When trivial appeared on the scene there wasn't a month that went by without Metal hammer bigging them up, and they're a very mediocre act compared to most others I've seen.

There's plenty of non-metal out there that's got far more merit than the likes of lmfao...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

But why are you persecuting my RIGHT to choose what I want to do with myself?

So what if I listen to, and like, LMFAO? I have free will, it's not like I'm forcing you to listen to it.

You really do wind me up at times...

[Deadlift]

I'm old school, metal is Iron Maiden, ACDC, Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. :)


Oh and I nearly forgot Motörhead, loudest band I have ever seen, combined with an epic drum solo / strobe light show I walked out of that concert unsure if I would ever hear and see properly ever again.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'm old school, metal is Iron Maiden, ACDC, Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. :)


Oh and I nearly forgot Motörhead, loudest band I have ever seen, combined with an epic drum solo / strobe light show I walked out of that concert unsure if I would ever hear and see properly ever again.

Which is cool! I also like those bands, they have songs that I like, and that I dislike. I'm not going to slag them off purely on that basis though.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm terribly sorry old chap,it was meant in goodsport what what.

@DL there was nothing funnier than about 70k people turning up to watch saxon on an early slot, then all vanishing again afterwards, and the lead singer having a go at kerrang for saying no one would go see them on the mainstage of a festival...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It's fine...

[Wolfshade]

I'm old school, metal is Iron Maiden, ACDC, Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. :)


Oh and I nearly forgot Motörhead, loudest band I have ever seen, combined with an epic drum solo / strobe light show I walked out of that concert unsure if I would ever hear and see properly ever again.

Anthrax and Motorhead played together earlier this month, 'thrax were louder...

[Psychosplodge]

Did their amps go to eleven?

Think I've seen motorhead four times, and they've certainly been loud...

[Wolfshade]

The drummer from 'head wasn't happy with the setup and kept shouting at people...

I think they must have only gone to 10, unless 'thrax got ones going to 12 but that is just crazy talk...

[Psychosplodge]

Yeah they had issues the other year at Bloodstock, and didn't finish their set :eek: