recomendations for female cultist and female heads.

[Hunter]

With plague zombie no 50 now complete i was thinking of expanding my CMS army in to a more slanesh detection.

as it stand now , my kit basked Dark apostle of slanesh is looking mighty sexy "i suddenly feel very confused now" and i was wondering on what would be the best source for female looking heads for my marines as well as appropriate females models to do cultists .
I may be getting ahead of my self , my concept for my army boils down to pretty chaos marines with breast and curves , i can do most of the work on my own but i need pretty heads to make it convincing.

Slanesh has been generous to his devout followers bestowing gifts of beauty in his/her/whatever own image as his followers now spread the word of freedom and love (free love) to the oppressed (or repressed) masses of humanity , running afoul of prudish imperial bureaucrats and there agents of oppression.

Not your topical Chaos build don't you think ?

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isnt slaneesh not love at all... just pleasure, lust, excess... some of the de wyche heads might work

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Yeah, Wych heads might work, or Daemonette heads.

Also, careful with how you handle doing breasts etc on space marines, that look can fall on its face pretty heavily if not careful.
http://1d4chan.org/images/8/8e/Nope.jpg

[ElectricPaladin]

Yeah, Wych heads might work, or Daemonette heads.

Also, careful with how you handle doing breasts etc on space marines, that look can fall on its face pretty heavily if not careful.
http://1d4chan.org/images/8/8e/Nope.jpg

As a rule, female armor would still look pretty masculine. Things like breasts and hips would be covered by the armor, not accentuated. Remember that most armor is designed to carry force away from the body by shape, not just block it through hardness. Things like the dip between breasts or a sharp curve from hip to waist would act as natural "nets" to "catch" attacks and let it slide towards the body, not away from it. I think marines that have found themselves with... unnaturally feminine endowments would hide them under their armor out of sheer practicality.

Not to mention the fact that a pair of boobs would have to be pretty freaking enormous to show under six inches of ceramite. Seriously. You can't quite tell how big a female person's breasts are under a heavy coat, unless they're on the large side, can you imagine how big they'd be to show under armor that thick?

I'd stick with feminizing the bodies of models that aren't wearing proper armor, but only the faces of those in full armor. That is, put Daemonette heads on your space marines and use greenstuff to make lines of horrible sagging boobs on your chaos spawns.

[Hunter]

links aren't working but that's ok , what i want to try to do is sort of go with cartoonist proportion adding to the over all gender confusion , i cant realy justefy buying an entire kit of an army i don't play just for a couple of bitz , i need a better option.
not to mention female cultist options.

as for the Slaneesh and love issue ? that's what being delusional "and possibly high" is all about , They thing there doing good by bringing there vision of freedom to the masses but there just making things worse .

[daboarder]

As a rule, female armor would still look pretty masculine. Things like breasts and hips would be covered by the armor, not accentuated. Remember that most armor is designed to carry force away from the body by shape, not just block it through hardness. Things like the dip between breasts or a sharp curve from hip to waist would act as natural "nets" to "catch" attacks and let it slide towards the body, not away from it. I think marines that have found themselves with... unnaturally feminine endowments would hide them under their armor out of sheer practicality.

Not to mention the fact that a pair of boobs would have to be pretty freaking enormous to show under six inches of ceramite. Seriously. You can't quite tell how big a female person's breasts are under a heavy coat, unless they're on the large side, can you imagine how big they'd be to show under armor that thick?

I'd stick with feminizing the bodies of models that aren't wearing proper armor, but only the faces of those in full armor. That is, put Daemonette heads on your space marines and use greenstuff to make lines of horrible sagging boobs on your chaos spawns.

We've been over this.

Armour SHOULD be form fitting to a reasonable extent to provide adequate protection for the wearer, modern police and military armour is not designed with the female body shape in mind as they are not perceived to operate on the "frontlines" as such studies have shown that such compromise actually offers inadequate protection from the resulting "misfit" of the armour.

and lets not even go into the fact that this is a gothic setting, or that artistic style almost demands such exaggerations due to get a point across on the small scale.

[Hunter]

As a rule, female armor would still look pretty masculine. Things like breasts and hips would be covered by the armor, not accentuated. Remember that most armor is designed to carry force away from the body by shape, not just block it through hardness. Things like the dip between breasts or a sharp curve from hip to waist would act as natural "nets" to "catch" attacks and let it slide towards the body, not away from it. I think marines that have found themselves with... unnaturally feminine endowments would hide them under their armor out of sheer practicality.

Not to mention the fact that a pair of boobs would have to be pretty freaking enormous to show under six inches of ceramite. Seriously. You can't quite tell how big a female person's breasts are under a heavy coat, unless they're on the large side, can you imagine how big they'd be to show under armor that thick?

I'd stick with feminizing the bodies of models that aren't wearing proper armor, but only the faces of those in full armor. That is, put Daemonette heads on your space marines and use greenstuff to make lines of horrible sagging boobs on your chaos spawns.

Ah yes but we are talking about delusional devotees of Slaneesh , serialized embellishment of there armor isent for combat efficiency , it's a fashion statement , and yes in true slanessh fashion i fully plan on them looking like masculine females , or feminine looking men , confusing gender is fully intentional .

but thank you for commenting .

[ElectricPaladin]

Armour SHOULD be form fitting to a reasonable extent to provide adequate protection for the wearer, modern police and military armour is not designed with the female body shape in mind as they are not perceived to operate on the "frontlines" as such studies have shown that such compromise actually offers inadequate protection from the resulting "misfit" of the armour.


Just because I'm curious and want to educate myself...

Has anyone done studies of armor that minimizes the female shape, but does so intentionally, rather than accidentally as a result of a misfit? For example, armor with built in support in the chest, the space between the breasts padded and cushioned appropriately?

Remember that I'm not suggesting that girl-shaped-beings should be crammed into ill-fitting male armor... I'm saying that armor designed with the female form in mind would have an androgenizing effect, as it would seek to minimize the curves that females are so well known for to reduce areas that would catch blows (as described above).

Re: the actual topic of the thread...

Heck, it's your army - go to town. I hope the choice you make works for you and looks good. Post pics!

[daboarder]

Just because I'm curious and want to educate myself...

Has anyone done studies of armor that minimizes the female shape, but does so intentionally, rather than accidentally as a result of a misfit? For example, armor with built in support in the chest, the space between the breasts padded and cushioned appropriately?

Remember that I'm not suggesting that girl-shaped-beings should be crammed into ill-fitting male armor... I'm saying that armor designed with the female form in mind would have an androgenizing effect, as it would seek to minimize the curves that females are so well known for to reduce areas that would catch blows (as described above).

Re: the actual topic of the thread...

Heck, it's your army - go to town. I hope the choice you make works for you and looks good. Post pics!

yeah the UK cops were doing it and I know the australian defence force has an inquiry underway give that they've just allowed females to begin serving in combat roles soon.

If I remember correctly Eldargal has the specifics of the information I'm talking about.

Your right proper female armour should be accommodating of things like the chest shape without emphasizing the negative, even if the requirement is additional padding.

[White Tiger88]

Buy Dark Elf Wytches they are pretty much your only choice for a cool sexy female model from GW.....

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Just because I'm curious and want to educate myself...

Has anyone done studies of armor that minimizes the female shape, but does so intentionally, rather than accidentally as a result of a misfit? For example, armor with built in support in the chest, the space between the breasts padded and cushioned appropriately?Can't find the article I read, but the US army is looking into customized-for-women combat gear, which apparently is a bit more form-fitting (no pictures were presented, though). Apparently those testing it commented it felt noticeably lighter and easier to move in, despite the actual weight being unchanged. From experience fencing, breast-plating is pretty form-fitting (but masked by the cloth overlay), but that's probably pretty far from combat gear.

...of course, I somehow doubt that experimental gear had plated corsets built into it :P

[Ssyrie]

Sorry to drag this old thing up: http://www.coolminiornot.com/159605

Looks like 40K meets Bubble Gum Crisis.

[DWest]

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440026a&prodId=prod1050024&rootCatGameStyle= is an interesting model to reference for "feminized" plate armor, i.e. "we're intentionally playing up the look without totally sacrificing utility". I have one for use with my CSM- slap on a backpack in some fashion and it fits right in.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440026a&prodId=prod1710156a&rootCatGameStyle= another excellent study in "curves covered in plate" style armor.

As for the actual Cultist type people, I'm going to second (third? fifth?) the DE Wyches, they're a great kit and the bodysuits have enough "gribbly bits" already to fit in. Other than that, I'd say possibly try Reaper or one of the other D&D-type minis places if you're looking to add some variety to the blob.

[Psychosplodge]

Well this might work as a basis

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mti54yzj1r98uhzo1_400.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mchgljpa5e1qk6t74.jpg

Though I do quite like that space marine sculpt.

[Hunter]

looks like we are not exactly on the same page but that's ok .
originally i was planning on having a lord "or dark apostle" and a small retinue of body guards , make up the rest of the numbers with cultists , i have a fair number of those but i need fluff appropriate models. .

The dark eldar wyches are a good suggestion for cultist but not exactly what i need for CMS heads and i was wondering if anyone would recommend something outside of GW for both heads and cultists.

as for my so called pretty Slanesh CMS , after a good night sleep i was thinking kitbashing Sanguinary Guard would make a solid foundation for my HQ and bodyguards , lesser marines don't have to be as pretty .
In terms of looks , am not going for combat performance but for esthetics , well sort of , what i hope to achieve is a look that's both alluring yet disturbing in it's ambiguous gender identity , a bit like a full sized pro wrestler who hapends to look very feminine of face and hips yet with an impressive male physique , oh and makeup too .

Beyond my currant prototype , am going to wait untill the spring to really trow my self in to the project but i am going to recherche bits and conversion parts options .
As the for mention prototype , i used the scraped body of a sm commander (for the cape) and the SW head with the long hair , atm i am trying out ideas by sculpting in blue tack before i commit to green stuff.

in recap i need recommendation for female (human) heads possibly outside of GW as well as female models i could kitbash as cultists , and if possible stay reasonably with in budget.

[daboarder]

Wyche heads make very good feminine marine heads. right size too.

[Digitarii]

Meow Meow Minis and Brother Vinni both have some nice female head sets out there now that should mesh nicely onto the Wych bodies. Pick up some autopistols and autoguns from a thrid party manufacturer and go to it!

[DarkDesigner]

There's also Effigy (http://www.effigyminis.com/store/), this is a guy by himself producing his own style of space soldiers with male and female included. You just missed a kickstarter where he was trying to get enough to fund another batch of them, including I think 2 or 3 new female sculpts. These could do as traitor PDF perhaps? Downside to this is they're in metal. Unless you like metal. I think he wants to have these out by the end of the year.

And while I think about it, if you don't mind an anime look there's also Soda Pop (http://www.sodapopminiatures.com/catalog/2) who held another Kickstarter, they wanted to raise enough money to transfer their range over to resin, and fund enough new models to produce a game to use them in, included within which is a decent ratio of female to male models. These aren't slated for delivery to Kickstarter backers til May, which does mean you could be waiting a little while after that to get your hands on them, but if patience is one of your many virtues, Cerci, Doctrine and Star Nebula Corsairs may be best.

If you're thinking you want to see models now, Reaper do some great models, all I did here (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/sci%20fi%20female)was search for Sci Fi female and I got 38 results, I'm sure a little patience could turn up some more results, or again if you don't mind waiting til March for them to release models from their Kickstarter (http://www.reapermini.com/) they've got some new sculpts going into their Bones (plastic) range

EDIT: Just thought of something supremely obvious, Necromunda escher gangers (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1120109)! If you ask really nicely I'll tell you how I converted mine (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?20499-Converted-Escher-Gangers&highlight=escher) out of plastic parts.

[MaltonNecromancer]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChainmailBikini

Seems relevant to the discussion.

[Hunter]

There's also Effigy (http://www.effigyminis.com/store/), this is a guy by himself producing his own style of space soldiers with male and female included. You just missed a kickstarter where he was trying to get enough to fund another batch of them, including I think 2 or 3 new female sculpts. These could do as traitor PDF perhaps? Downside to this is they're in metal. Unless you like metal. I think he wants to have these out by the end of the year.

And while I think about it, if you don't mind an anime look there's also Soda Pop (http://www.sodapopminiatures.com/catalog/2) who held another Kickstarter, they wanted to raise enough money to transfer their range over to resin, and fund enough new models to produce a game to use them in, included within which is a decent ratio of female to male models. These aren't slated for delivery to Kickstarter backers til May, which does mean you could be waiting a little while after that to get your hands on them, but if patience is one of your many virtues, Cerci, Doctrine and Star Nebula Corsairs may be best.

If you're thinking you want to see models now, Reaper do some great models, all I did here (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/sci%20fi%20female)was search for Sci Fi female and I got 38 results, I'm sure a little patience could turn up some more results, or again if you don't mind waiting til March for them to release models from their Kickstarter (http://www.reapermini.com/) they've got some new sculpts going into their Bones (plastic) range

EDIT: Just thought of something supremely obvious, Necromunda escher gangers (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1120109)! If you ask really nicely I'll tell you how I converted mine (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?20499-Converted-Escher-Gangers&highlight=escher) out of plastic parts.

well thank you very much , this defenitely gives me options , that and new projcts to paint , using gagners is posetively brilliant.


Meow Meow Minis and Brother Vinni both have some nice female head sets out there now that should mesh nicely onto the Wych bodies. Pick up some autopistols and autoguns from a thrid party manufacturer and go to it!


thas's almost exactly what i need , defenetly a solid foundation to build on.
thank you very much for your effort.