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Mr Mystery
10-13-2012, 01:27 AM
Morning!

So, largely anecdotal at the moment, but going over my CSM Codex and my HH book, I have noticed that once you get into the elites, the minimum unit sizes seem to be coming down.

The Cult troops start at 5, Chaos Terminators start at 3 strong, whilst Obliterators and Mutilators start at 1.

This seems to fly in the face of the usual 'make games bigger' changes. Do we think this is just anomalous (the plural of anecdote not being data) or a deliberate attempt to lower the required entry size of an army? Anecdotes for, reduced unit sizes. Anecdotes against, boxed sets being larger than the minimum, with thus far no first hand source of single models....

fuzzbuket
10-13-2012, 04:49 AM
im guessing that its for allies in smaller games (100-1750)

Houghten
10-13-2012, 05:01 AM
It lets them sell you more, different kits, instead of more of the same kit.

Anggul
10-13-2012, 05:09 AM
All of those things had those squad sizes in the last codex.

Just sayin'.

Deadlift
10-13-2012, 05:16 AM
All of those things had those squad sizes in the last codex.

Just sayin'.

Yep, this is correct. Also at the other end of the scale with this codex, you can actually make some very large units of marines, cultists etc. Its very flexable.

Mr Mystery
10-13-2012, 08:00 AM
Serial? Even the Terminators?

DF3CT
10-14-2012, 05:39 PM
People are more inclined to buy one overpriced ugly model than 3 in the case of Oblits and muts?

BatMarine
10-14-2012, 07:17 PM
Serial? Even the Terminators?

Serial

Poseidal
10-15-2012, 06:31 AM
Hopefully, in the next Eldar dex, Aspect Warriors will be 3-7 again, with the eliteness to match.

Wildcard
10-15-2012, 07:10 AM
Hopefully, in the next Eldar dex, Aspect Warriors will be 3-7 again, with the eliteness to match.

3man s3 t4 Sv 4+ squad with whatever weapons at 200 points :D

There was this song once: "Be carefull what you wish for, for you might get it all" or something like that :D

DarkLink
10-15-2012, 12:37 PM
No matter how killy it is, you cannot make an expensive low toughness, low wound, low save, low model count close range unit points effective.