Cap'nSmurfs
09-21-2012, 12:31 PM
So, I rocked up to my local GW last night for a game. I brought my Space Marines. It's usually busy and didn't take long to find an opponent (who, I should stress at this point, was a really, really nice guy!) and we settled on a 2,000 point game.
My army was the bog-standard list I've been using lately. Nothing too special: Captain and Command Squad in a twin-Lascannon Razorback, 3x Tacticals, one in a Rhino, Stormtalon, Terminator Librarian with Tactical (assault cannon) Terminators in a Land Raider, Vanguard Veterans (who never showed up).
He had a double-FOC Space Wolves list - two Long Fangs, four Grey Hunters, all with big nasty guns out the ya-ya, and two Rune Priests throwing Prescience all over the shop.
And a Fortress of Redemption. And an Aegis Line with a Quad Gun.
We got scenario one, rolled three objectives. We got the diagonal table halves deployment. Now, this table really didn't have much in the way of cover, and almost nothing to block LOS in my favour, because it was a last-minute repurposed Fantasy table. Which is fine, that's just how it goes.
He put the Fortress, the line, and all his stuff in one corner.
Now, because this is the kind of guy I am, I said, well, it'd be boring to give me an advantage with objective placement, so we put one in his fortress and then one near it, but a bit outside, because it made sense that my more mobile force should be attacking this fortress.
Long story short: I try to close in to attack the fortress and its objectives, I get annihilated, and call it by the start of my turn four. I killed, in total, five Space Wolves. My vehicles got immobilised or destroyed, the Stormtalon got wiped out as it arrived, and then my units got blasted to pieces by big nasty guns and the Fortress' missiles. My shooting barely dented him and I was prevented from assaulting on two occasions by his objective turning out to be a Grav Wave Generator.
So, the question is - was this a perfect storm of You're Gonna Lose, Ultramarines, or could I have done better? If so, what could I have done? Was there anything I could do to save this, or was the combination of armies, deployment zones, lack of cover just against me from the off? The main thing I thought of after it was too late was to make more of an effort to try and blow his fortifications up - I had plenty of Lascannon and Missile Launchers, after all, and I know the collapse chart can get pretty nasty.
Any comments appreciated - even if it's just "buy some Vindicators". Trust me, that occurred... :)
My army was the bog-standard list I've been using lately. Nothing too special: Captain and Command Squad in a twin-Lascannon Razorback, 3x Tacticals, one in a Rhino, Stormtalon, Terminator Librarian with Tactical (assault cannon) Terminators in a Land Raider, Vanguard Veterans (who never showed up).
He had a double-FOC Space Wolves list - two Long Fangs, four Grey Hunters, all with big nasty guns out the ya-ya, and two Rune Priests throwing Prescience all over the shop.
And a Fortress of Redemption. And an Aegis Line with a Quad Gun.
We got scenario one, rolled three objectives. We got the diagonal table halves deployment. Now, this table really didn't have much in the way of cover, and almost nothing to block LOS in my favour, because it was a last-minute repurposed Fantasy table. Which is fine, that's just how it goes.
He put the Fortress, the line, and all his stuff in one corner.
Now, because this is the kind of guy I am, I said, well, it'd be boring to give me an advantage with objective placement, so we put one in his fortress and then one near it, but a bit outside, because it made sense that my more mobile force should be attacking this fortress.
Long story short: I try to close in to attack the fortress and its objectives, I get annihilated, and call it by the start of my turn four. I killed, in total, five Space Wolves. My vehicles got immobilised or destroyed, the Stormtalon got wiped out as it arrived, and then my units got blasted to pieces by big nasty guns and the Fortress' missiles. My shooting barely dented him and I was prevented from assaulting on two occasions by his objective turning out to be a Grav Wave Generator.
So, the question is - was this a perfect storm of You're Gonna Lose, Ultramarines, or could I have done better? If so, what could I have done? Was there anything I could do to save this, or was the combination of armies, deployment zones, lack of cover just against me from the off? The main thing I thought of after it was too late was to make more of an effort to try and blow his fortifications up - I had plenty of Lascannon and Missile Launchers, after all, and I know the collapse chart can get pretty nasty.
Any comments appreciated - even if it's just "buy some Vindicators". Trust me, that occurred... :)