FW Angron

[eldargal]

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152334&d=1348055821
"Rarggh, this isn't my anger management class!"

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152532&d=1348151785
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152531&d=1348151772

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

YEY! Daddy!! *hugs Angron*

I hope they release Kharn now, then my life shall be complete.

[DrLove42]

Neat. But not quite what I was expecting either

[eldargal]

I think he looks like John Goodman.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/BlueKnights06/Walter.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

From seeing his art on Black Library stuff, he's exactly what I was expecting.

@EG - A horrible thought. o_o

[DrLove42]

Better picture might change my mind.

And either thats a nice diorama, or he comes with a stupid epic scenic base

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

SHE?!?!

*slaps Cerri*

[DrLove42]

Everyone knows the Angron is a woman PMSing :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Try telling that to 200 Sisters of Battle...

[eldargal]

You make a compelling argument.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Who does?

[eldargal]

DrLove.:p

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

You'd never side with me, because if you did, the world would explode. I'm too right as it is without anyone confirming it. :p

[Deadlift]

I hope that diarama is part of the base. The model itself captures Angron perfectly, but where's the bulk. I always envisioned Angron to be like Marvels Jugganought physique wise. Like a steamroller of maniacal muscle. Could be the picture but I don't see it.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Suppose we have to see him compared to the others.

[DrLove42]

You also need to remember that normal marines are supposed to be huge bulk, which the models don't represent well.

I'm sure if we get models for the rest with this book (Mortarion and Fulgrim - We know Horus isn't coming until the very end) they (particularly Fulgrim) might be more thin

[Wolfshade]

Angryon has dreads :)

[ElectricPaladin]

It seems like they're going for a "glorious golden angel of destruction" look for all the Primarchs, regardless of the look and feel of their Legion. We always knew Sanguinius was going to look that way, but we hadn't known about the others. Interesting. I think I approve.

[eldargal]

Actually it is really rather faithful to the original John Blanche art of Angron:
http://aarondembskibowden.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/angron_puzzle.jpg

[ElectricPaladin]

Actually it is really rather faithful to the original John Blanche art of Angron...

I'd never seen that picture before. It's very faithful, actually.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

And this

2828

[eldargal]

Yep, cept with armour and whatnot
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2828&d=1348061890

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

And this

http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2055/thumb_620x2000/betrayer_final_lo_003.jpg

[DrLove42]

Also stuff from the official Heresy art book;

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110129011961/warhammer40k/images/thumb/d/de/Angron_Pre-Heresy.jpg/1000px-Angron_Pre-Heresy.jpg

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

So all in all Angron's model lives up to his artwork. :p

[Kirsten]

I am impressed, like the way he is running along the wall matrix style too :-P

[eldargal]

Gravity is for wimps.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Gordon Freeman doesn't care for gravity.

[Deadlift]

Yep, cept with armour and whatnot
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2828&d=1348061890

Yeah for me, that's Angron. Would be better if he was a ginger ;)

[eldargal]

I just realised what Angron reminded me of, apart from John Goodman. A really obese, angry asari.

Oh my, John Goodman is actually an obese Asari primarch.

[Kirsten]

Someone Photoshop the model photo blue

[Deadlift]

Angron, Obese ?
No. The guy in the butchers nails pic is bulked, but not obese. :)

[eldargal]

Obese by asari standards.:p

[Deadlift]

Obese by asari standards.:p

You got me there. What exactly is an asari ?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

An Alien from the Mass Effect video game.

[Wolfshade]

Gravity is for wimps.

I thought gravity was for Machos

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

What planet are you on Wolfie?

[Wolfshade]

Gravity is for Wimps, Weakly Interacting Massive Particles but because they are weakly interacting we do not see them as forces acting upon them and so cannot tell that they exist, Machos, Massive astrophysical compact halo object, however ebing massive do have significant interaction with gravity so we should be able to see them more readily, only because they are dark we can only see them through transits, both are possible solutions for missing matter. Gosh keep up. Also blame EG she brought it up.

EDIT:
To answer your question Earth, (or Sol III if you prefer)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Sorry if I can't be arsed.

[energongoodie]

I'm in! :)
How much are we thinking this bad boy is gonna be and when can I buy him?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'd guess that he'll be around £30-40 and potentially available at Games Day.

[energongoodie]

I'd guess that he'll be around £30-40 and potentially available at Games Day.

I want to go to there.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Are you at Games Day?

[energongoodie]

Negative. It's along way up from South London. I'd rather spend the money on models than travel. I haven't been to a games day since 94. I'll save my next trip up North for the BOLS UK play date and buy my FW stuff there.

I do really want that Games Day mini though. I'm sure I'll be able to get one on ebay by Sunday lunch time though.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I think I'm buying it for Wolfie. Unless it's 1 per person.

[MarneusCalgar]

I love the miniature!!

But this is the Traitor mini!!

It was told yesterday, on Frontline Gaming, that we should see also a loyal miniature for all traitor Primarchs!

[Kawauso]

I love the miniature!!

But this is the Traitor mini!!

It was told yesterday, on Frontline Gaming, that we should see also a loyal miniature for all traitor Primarchs!

Pretty sure Angron had a tendency to inflict friendly casualties well before he 'fell'.

[Mr Mystery]

Hello? Police? I'd like to report a rape. The victim? My wallet.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Yep! :D

Hahahahahaha!

[wittdooley]

@ Deadlift -- In regards to size, I think (someone correct me here if I'm wrong) Angron is actually more reminiscent of Wolverine than Juggernaugt. Hunched, coiled with anger, not necessarily that much larger than his legion. Mortarion, on the other hand, should be massive.

@TDA -- You'll have to make sure you take copious amounts of pictures. I'm envious; I really want one of those luna wolves t-shirts.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I only have a mobile... And a bad one at that. It'll take good pictures but it hates BOLS.

[Wildeybeast]

Hmm. Ok, that's pretty cool. I may just be tempted into getting this book. I really can't wait for the Istvaan 5 one where they put the good Primarchs in. Corax is going to be epic in miniature form.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I have seen pictures of the model. WOW.
All that stuff surrounding Angron, yeah, that's his base.

HO-LY MOLY.

[DrLove42]

I'd guess that the next book will eithe rbe Istavan 5 or Prospero, as both are very similar in time scale.

I can see Istavan focusing on Iron Hands, Emp Children, Raven Guard and Word Bearers.

But i can also see them limiting books to 1-2 primarchs a book, which would be wierd.

[thomas40kfanboy]

would personally speculate that book 2 would be istaavan 5 with iron hands, raven guard and salamanders. then the other traitor legions would be covered in other books (word bearers= calth)(iron warriors=Phall or tallarn) not sure were night lords and apha legion would show up.
then book 3 would hopefully be prospero, which would see the first of the legio custodes units showing up

as for the number of factions per book, i'd guess 2-4 per books with non-marine mini-factions showing up to bulk up 1legion Vs 1legion books.

[DWest]

On the side, if/when they get to Alpharius, is FW going to then release a pack of "Alpharius heads" to put on regular Marines so they all match?

[eldargal]

More pics:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152532&d=1348151785
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152531&d=1348151772

[DrLove42]

Jesus...his back. Just wow

Wouldn't want to clean flash off that by hand....

[eldargal]

I have to say I'm much more impressed by the model (the face in particular) in these pictures than the colour one.

[Deadlift]

Yeah it's alright, I will wait for Vulcan :)

What's the price in Euros, do we know from the German mag?

[Kawauso]

I have to say I'm much more impressed by the model (the face in particular) in these pictures than the colour one.

I find the realistic painting styles favoured by FW don't do a very good job of showing the details on models so much as somewhat more stylized methods of painting do.

[Psychosplodge]

It'll do.

[Cow]

I cant wait for this model, I have been using angron with is apoc Daemon prince rules from white dwarf for years and they just dont make him hard enough. But I can see him being more like 60-70 quid, as the people who want the model will pay it, and its so detailed its worth it.

[Gotthammer]

Mk7 helmet and backpacks at Istvaan make me grumpy.

[Dlatrex]

I hope that diarama is part of the base. The model itself captures Angron perfectly, but where's the bulk. I always envisioned Angron to be like Marvels Jugganought physique wise. Like a steamroller of maniacal muscle. Could be the picture but I don't see it.

I realize this response was originally written before the additional photos (and art-refference material) but it did strike a chord in my mind. Perhaps I'm improperly remembering the HH novels, but I seem to recall mention that unlike typical Astartes, who are not only large, but by nominal human standards misproportioned, the primarchs are described as having a more human shape, just taken to a much larger scale.

Was this just one or two primarchs that I am thinking about, or perhaps this is even inconsistent with different authors? Regardless, it seems to me that Angron looks in some ways more human and inhumanly proportioned, although new images could change that...

[wittdooley]

Yeah it's alright, I will wait for Vulcan :)

What's the price in Euros, do we know from the German mag?

Wait for Vulcan. Wait, what? No, No, Joe.... you have to buy ALL of them. Thats what I hear anyways.

[Deadlift]

Wait for Vulcan. Wait, what? No, No, Joe.... you have to buy ALL of them. Thats what I hear anyways.

Lol yeah I hear you mate, the resin is addictive stuff :) but its always good to start out with the plan of limiting your spending, right up to the point you grab your credit card and Forgeworlds phone number.

[Shroomie]

I dunno.. it's a nice model and all but.. meh..

I've read all the HH books up to but not including Fear to Tread and it gives off the impression that (as someone else has stated) Primarchs ('cept alpha twins) are bigger than normal marines, who dwarf guard/civ's Angryman doesn't seem really any bigger than the marines he's stamping on.

[Kawauso]

I dunno.. it's a nice model and all but.. meh..

I've read all the HH books up to but not including Fear to Tread and it gives off the impression that (as someone else has stated) Primarchs ('cept alpha twins) are bigger than normal marines, who dwarf guard/civ's Angryman doesn't seem really any bigger than the marines he's stamping on.

He looks quite a bit bigger to me.

You also have to take into account that while marines and whatnot are described as 'giant' in the background a lot of people tend to take this and run with it to think they're super huge. Marines in power armour come out at about 8'0". Which is -quite- big and would be very imposing in-person (particularly when you account for how broad they are); it's just less hyperbolic than a lot of people tend to imagine.
Angron looks sufficiently bigger/taller than those marines on his base if you try to match their height against his.

[Gir]

He looks quite a bit bigger to me.

You also have to take into account that while marines and whatnot are described as 'giant' in the background a lot of people tend to take this and run with it to think they're super huge. Marines in power armour come out at about 8'0".

7' according to Jes Goodwin.

[Psychosplodge]

Mk7 helmet and backpacks at Istvaan make me grumpy.

^this where is the lore monkey, and why has he missed this?


Wait for Vulcan. Wait, what? No, No, Joe.... you have to buy ALL of them. Thats what I hear anyways.

30K, Gotta buy them all...

see if they release models of the the missing two(with absoloutely no lore or other material :D) thats another 2*£X....

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

(it's a smooth version of mk 5, the helmet is too beaked for 7)

[spaceman91]

only just seen that model. OMFG I WANT ONE. a hem. can i please have one. ps has any told him about anger management?

[Psychosplodge]

Her, she's looking for chocolate...

[spaceman91]

i have never seen anyone go that made for chocolate. Must be his/her time of the month. no offense is meant by this before anyone says anything

[Psychosplodge]

It's alright it's already the theme of this or another thread, hence the chocolate joke.

[Kawauso]

7' according to Jes Goodwin.

Whoops, guess you're right.
My bad; I forget this scale 'starts' at 1'0"...which is odd.
2842

[eldargal]

Yep but the Space Marine starts 1ft off the ground.:p

[Deadlift]

Looking at a copy of this months WD and its much clearer to see that Angron is nearly half as big again as the models on the base. He is pretty big.

[Wolfshade]

Yep but the Space Marine starts 1ft off the ground.:p
Look who's earing their +1 hat today...

[eldargal]

Price is £50
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_10.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_11.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_12.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_12close.jpg

[eldargal]

More:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_7.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/Angron_9.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/angbase.jpg

[eldargal]

Last batch:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/angbox1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/uk2012/Angron/angbox.jpg

Angron's base come in two parts with a removable central 40mm round base.

Also design video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wCwMt9ES5rE).

[Flammenwerfer13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCwMt9ES5rE

[eldargal]

Linked to it in hte post above.:p It's a decent little video.

[Wildeybeast]

Love the model, hate the price. £50 for a model that fits on a 40 mm base? FW have been sniffing the super glue again.

[eldargal]

It's a big model with three extra space marines with it, plus I'm sure it will be extremely nasty in combat. Seems reasonable to me really.

[Wildeybeast]

That's £6.90 worth of Space Marines, meaning £43.10 for one model that fits on a 40mm base. I respectfully disagree. :p

[eldargal]

Cheaper than a FW dreadnought, better rules. It's also £13.8 worth of FW marines, five MK IVs are £23.:p So £36.2 for a large model that fits on a 40mm base, with a big resin scenic base.

[Deadlift]

I think £50 is quite reasonable to be honest. It's the fecking postage charges that get my goat with FW. I am still not convinced this models for me though.

Oh who am I kidding, yeah I will end up buying all the primarchs.

[Wildeybeast]

Cheaper than a FW dreadnought, better rules. It's also £13.8 worth of FW marines, five MK IVs are £23.:p So £36.2 for a large model that fits on a 40mm base, with a big resin scenic base.

Oh, you are going on FW marine prices, I used standard plastics. You get a tactical squad for £23. So FW isn't even good value compared to standard GW. :p Your move EG.

[Deadlift]

Oh, you are going on FW marine prices, I used standard plastics. You get a tactical squad for £23. So FW isn't even good value compared to standard GW. :p Your move EG.

Are you factoring the difference in the quality of the sculpt itself ? That alone is worth the price. I don't think GW sculpts generally come close to FW quality and complexity. That's why the price points differ. Oh and don't forget FW products are a niche product in a niche market. Hench the extra cost.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I'll be getting him. £120 on 2 items? Well played Forge World.

Let's just hope I can get them both, otherwise my Birthday might be soured...

[TSINI]

I would imagine with such a prestigious model that the quality control checks will be extra special.

I was already flirting with the idea of doing a heresy era marine force, now that has been well and truly welded into my brain, I just need to wait until my bank account has recovered from kickstarter madness, and a primarch comes along which I particularly like, then its off to forgeworld I go ho ho ho!!

[Wildeybeast]

Are you factoring the difference in the quality of the sculpt itself ? That alone is worth the price. I don't think GW sculpts generally come close to FW quality and complexity. That's why the price points differ. Oh and don't forget FW products are a niche product in a niche market. Hench the extra cost.

When it comes to standard marines, I think the plastics are better quality sculpts, not to mention all the extras you get with them. There is certainly no way they are twice as good. But it's all subjective, everything is worth what it's purchaser will pay for it. And I'll probably end up shelling out for Corax when they get round to doing the cool Primarchs.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Due to derp I shall no longer be getting Angron.

*copious amounts of swearing*

EDIT: *punches holes in the walls*

[Deadlift]

Due to derp I shall no longer be getting Angron. YET

*copious amounts of swearing*

EDIT: *punches holes in the walls*

Fixed it for you.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Gods damn it, I wanted him on Sunday...

[Gotthammer]

Gods damn it, I wanted him on Sunday...

But he want's a guy who needs him every day of the week - Angron ain't no hollaback girl. No, he ain't no hollaback girl.


Uh huh, this my ****
All the Astartes stomp your feet like this

A few times I've been betrayed by Dad
So it's not just gonna happen like that
Cause I ain't no hollaback girl
I ain't no hollaback girl
[2x]

Oooh, this my **** , this my **** [4x]

I heard that you were talking ****
And you didn't think that I would hear it
Marines hear you talking like that, getting everybody fired up
So I'm ready to attack, gonna lead the pack
Gonna kill from touchdown, gonna get Gorechild out
That's right, put your bolters down, getting everybody fired up

A few times I've been betrayed by Dad
So it's not just gonna happen like that
Angron ain't no hollaback girl
I ain't no hollaback girl
[2x]

Oooh, this my **** , this my **** [4x]

So that's right Corax, meet me at Istvaan
No Custodes, no psyker b*tches
Both of us want to be the winner, but there can only be one
So I'm gonna fight, whirlwind of gore
Gonna make you fall, gonna chop it off you
That's right, I'm the last one standing, another shattered skull

A few times I've been betrayed by Dad
So it's not just gonna happen like that
Angron ain't no hollaback girl
I ain't no hollaback girl
[2x]

Oooh, this my **** , this my **** 4x]

Let me hear you say, this **** is World Eaters
K-I-I-I-I-L-L
this **** is World Eaters
K-I-I-I-I-L-L
this **** is World Eaters
K-I-I-I-I-L-L
this **** is World Eaters
K-I-I-I-I-L-L

A few times I've been betrayed by Dad
So it's not just gonna happen like that
Angron ain't no hollaback girl
I ain't no hollaback girl
[2x]

Oooh, this my **** , this my **** [4x]

:cool:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I don't know how to respond to that. O_O

Well played...

[eldargal]

What's a hollaback girl?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Are you serious?

Straight from Urban Dictionary
A girl that is willing to be treated like a doormat or booty call. She is a girl that will allow guys to do whatever they want with her and will just wait for them to 'holla back' at them.

[eldargal]

Yes? I can't be bothered googling it.:p

[Gotthammer]

Music vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgjkth6BRRY)

Or from Urbandictionary: A girl that is willing to be treated like a doormat or booty call.

[Lukas The Trickster]

Love the model, hate the price. £50 for a model that fits on a 40 mm base? FW have been sniffing the super glue again.

To be fair,the model seems about the equivilent size as the Warhammer Forge monsters, and is around the same price. And, after all, it is a primarch, probably the only models that they have ever released of them or will ever release of them. Ever, ever, ever. So FW were never going to be shifting them for £10 in a clamshell blister pack eh lol :D

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

EG - I don't know whether my estimations of you have been raised or lowered by that remark. :p

[eldargal]

Go with raised, healthier than the alternative. I knew of the song (having first heard it on an episode of family guy:p) I just didn't know what one was. For some reason I pictured a female polo player.

[Gotthammer]

I'm just disappointed she missed "and don't call me Shirley!"

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Hahahaha!

[Wildeybeast]

Go with raised, healthier than the alternative. I knew of the song (having first heard it on an episode of family guy:p) I just didn't know what one was. For some reason I pictured a female polo player.

What would make you think Gwen Stefani was singing about polo?

[wittdooley]

TDA---how short for Angron are you?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

£15?

[wittdooley]

Got PayPal?

[Deadlift]

Got PayPal?

Yeah, I would gladly lend a hand too, if you have PayPay.

Great idea Sean.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Wow guys! This is quite awesome! And I've just woken up! :D

My paypal email is.... [email protected]

Anything given to me shall be courteously accepted, and will earn my eternal gratitude. :)

[JonnyRoxtar]

Will probably buy all the primarchs . Except Lorgar. Cant be arsed with Lorgar.
Russ next please or Mortarion .

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I can't wait for Corax and Sanguinius!! They'll look sick! And I don't really like Blood Angels!

[eldargal]

Looking forward to Guilliman and Magnus the most personally.

[daboarder]

Looking forward to Guilliman and Magnus the most personally.

I can't wait for mortarion, Sanguinius and Horus,

I also expect at some point we'll see the big guy himself.

I reckon it will be based on the Horus vs Emp picture.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Looking forward to Guilliman and Magnus the most personally.

Gods damn! Forgot Magnus! And he's my favourite Legion's Primarch! :p

[JonnyRoxtar]

Well the ones I really really want are Vulkan Sanguinius and Russ. As it seems to be the Istvan 3 stuff in the first book Im guessing itll be Mortarion or Fulgrim next.

[Deadlift]

Gods damn! Forgot Magnus! And he's my favourite Legion's Primarch! :p

Vulkan for me, then Russ and Sanguinus. Oh and Ferrus

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I prefer most of the Traitor Primarchs, but I'm a Loyalist? Lolwat?

[eldargal]

You must lust after bad boys.:p

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I already have the baddest of them all. ;)

[DrLove42]

It all comes to to if either Angron is the only one with rules in the book, or just the only one with a model so far.If hes the only one with rules, maybe its only one Primarch a book (making it 18 books long..).

If thats the case....i dont know.

Id guess at 2 primarches a book. Fulgrim and Mannus on Istavan 5. Russ and Magnus on Prospero. Lorgar and Guilliman on Calth. Sanguinius and Dorn at the siege of the emporers palace.

Fw have already said we wont get Horus or the Emporer till the last book

[Saliman]

I'll take Perturabo and Alpharius. I'm interested in seeing how they portray some of the more "laid back" primarchs.

[Deadlift]

You must lust after bad boys.:p

I try to like the baddies, but I just can't bring myself to. Deep down I'm just a goodie two shoes.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I try to like the baddies, but I just can't bring myself to. Deep down I'm just a goodie two shoes.

That's obvious by how you've given me moneys! :p

[Saliman]

That's obvious by how you've given me moneys! :p

Sounds like that money is already allocated on a model :).

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

THE RED ANGEL!!!!

There will be blood.

[Saliman]

And skulls.

And death.

And skulls.

Did I mention that there would be skulls?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Not that I can see?

You should mention skulls in your list there. :p

[Gotthammer]

SKUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLS!!!!!!!! Rargleblargleargle *chopchopchop*


Ok, back to work now.

[Mr Mystery]

Do I win £5???

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Oh Gott, you just went full Thornberry. :p

No Mystery, it's time that you gave me £5. :p

[Mr Mystery]

Alright then. If you beat me at 40k, I'll give you a fiver....