GK Terminator Armor is Mk...?

[ElectricPaladin]

I've decided to make my Blood Ravens terminator librarian out of Grey Knight bits. However, I've noticed that the GK terminators are pretty different from ordinary Space Marine terminators. Backstory-wise, what gives? Are their Mks of terminator armor as well? What's the name for the iteration that the Grey Knights wear?

[Kyban]

I don't have my book or anything but I know their power armor is called aegis armor and they might have a similar version of terminator armor, I'll look into though, it's a good question.

EDIT: From Lexicanum:

Aegis Armour - The suits of power and Terminator armour worn by the Grey Knights are incredibly well crafted lattice of psychoconductive filaments and amulets*[7]; anointed and inscribed with prayers and wards, ritually consecrated and psychically charged. Working in tandem with the Grey Knights' formidable psychic powers, the Aegis armour protects the wearers from the effects of the Immaterium and the Daemons it spawns. The armor's ritual blessings and psychic resonance also serve to confound the perception of any enemy, resulting in an effect called the Shrouding. The psychically charged nature of the armour allows its mere presence to induce intense terror and pain in any nearby daemons and warp spawn, also loosening their grip on the material realm.

So it sounds a lot better than in game but I suppose that's not an isolated case.

[bfmusashi]

That's a way of reading page 8 of the old Daemonhunters codex. Another is "The Aegis" is just a side effect of all the work and special modifications done to the armor, not the name of the armour itself.

[Kyban]

That's a way of reading page 8 of the old Daemonhunters codex. Another is "The Aegis" is just a side effect of all the work and special modifications done to the armor, not the name of the armour itself.

I believe the current codex also calls it "Aegis Armour" though I can't check right now.

[Chris*ta]

Yes, there are patterns (though seemingly not marks) of terminator armour: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/TARTAROS_PATTERN_TERMINATOR_ARMOUR.html .

There are also the minor variations in terminator armour, most notably, the kneepad/no kneepad thing, but there are a few other details that vary.

As for the Grey Knights, they seem to wear an artificer-made suit of terminator armour, considering the custom chest-plate and armour around the neck head.

Maybe someone else has better specific details?

[Cpt Codpiece]

the terminator variants, are not MKs as the power armour are.

there was little development of the suits due to the heresy. but since they were modified environment suits, there would be a natural variance in the production on par with differing bolt gun patterns, they all work the same just look different.

the 1st lot of fluff was that the suits were c reated as the ultimate armour, allowing marines to be walking tanks...... however the last part was their downfall. they were slow and cumbersome.

then there was the origins of the suits, supossedly they were engineered from squat exo armour, that were used to maintain plasma reactors and survive the heat, pressure and radiation within said reactors. they were then modified with the space marine tech to create the first suits of TDA.

i see three or four variants in main use.
the standard terminator suit (the old metal ones included, as only the shoulders and weapon MKs changed)
tartaros (modified power armour, they still use MK IV heads and power packs, then bigger plates and internal reinforcment, as MK IV was the advanced suit that makes sense these were the better suits)
cataphratii (basic and reliable, the cudgel in the mailed fist as with the standard TDA external reinforcment)
and the ones the grey knights/custodes use/d

now the last one i see as a development of cataphratii, as the custodes appear to have more advanced versions of the suit (note the helms), it would make sense that the psi shielding required for the aegis suits was already made so then could be wrought into the then modified custode cataphractii suits.

malcador already had titan monkeyed with and the artificers already at work when he foounded the inquisition. also note that the custodes also removed their armour with the internment of the emperor and alos changed their names and added to them with their honours.

the emperor would have needed psi sheilded warriors had magnus taken seat in the golden throne and kept the web way open so man could take it too. the grey knights would have just been repurposed as the demon hunters they are now.

[bfmusashi]

Terminators do not fail armor saves; they fall over and can not get back up.

[DAPHEEL]

Check this out - John Blanche's guide to terminator armour through the ages"

http://www.tearsofenvy.com/termi-nation/

[Wolfshade]

Terminators do not fail armor saves; they fall over and can not get back up.

That's why they have vents at the backs, they are tiny rocket exhausts that stand the termy back up, its a kinda self-righting mechanism (sremech for those who remember robot wars).

And damn it that link is blocked :mad:

[DAPHEEL]

look on right hand side - there's a "click here" box

[Chris*ta]

i see three or four variants in main use.
the standard terminator suit (the old metal ones included, as only the shoulders and weapon MKs changed) ...

Technically, they're are also the small plates added on the hips to the more recent sculpts, the removal of the vents on the cheeks on the face, and (I think) a few other minor differences as well.

There's also the issue of the mk 6/7 knees, and the difference in glove armour: between most loyalist sculpts on one hand, and the Chaos terminators and Chaplain on the other hand. No pun intended.

[Cpt Codpiece]

the vents are back on the cheeks with the space wolf kit :) i know it was a tooling thing, that they ommited them on the standard kit but they were sorley missed.

the hip plates, are just that though an addition to the standard pattern, same with the moving of the targeting module to the stupid monopod version we have now, why not leave it the way it was..... it looked so much better.

i really dislike the current termie kit, give me the old metal ones any day.... but make them bigger LOL. the storm bolters were much better and the powerfists and chainfists with the trim were great, simple details but missed by all who remember them :) (the tartaros thunder hammer is amazing too just like the old metal ones)

the link with the termies is great, loads of info :) is it actually JB's words on the page though?

[Chris*ta]

the vents are back on the cheeks with the space wolf kit :) i know it was a tooling thing, that they ommited them on the standard kit but they were sorley missed.

the hip plates, are just that though an addition to the standard pattern, same with the moving of the targeting module to the stupid monopod version we have now, why not leave it the way it was..... it looked so much better.

i really dislike the current termie kit, give me the old metal ones any day.... but make them bigger LOL. the storm bolters were much better and the powerfists and chainfists with the trim were great, simple details but missed by all who remember them :) (the tartaros thunder hammer is amazing too just like the old metal ones)

the link with the termies is great, loads of info :) is it actually JB's words on the page though?

I hadn't noticed that with the SWs! I missed those vents. :emoticon for odd emotional outburst:

The bit I miss more than any other -- except maybe for the variations in the crux terminatus -- from the metal terminators is the old chainfist. Looked so much better than the modern, power fist with a little chainsword glued on, IMO.

[bfmusashi]

It's been a while since I've seen a termy librarian with a helmet on, but are the slots around the helmet still used as plug-ins for the psykic hood?

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Backstory-wise, what gives? Are their Mks of terminator armor as well? What's the name for the iteration that the Grey Knights wear?Grey Knights are all about being the special-special forces, and most of their kit is pretty unique since they're drawing it from their own dedicated mini-forgeworld. It might not even be a Mechanicus-sanctioned design, since they use a fair bit of Xenos-derived tech. Probably just a combination of tech and traits that suit their work, cost be damned.

As for relating it to the Blood Ravens, they seem to be on good terms with Malleus, having worked with the Knights before and have been gifted with some Malleus gear (Daemonhammers, mostly). Could just be that they were gifted with parts/schematics at the end of a long-forgotten campaign.

[lattd]

I was just updating my grey knights and have a mix of mark 2 and the plastic ones. Prefer the new ones, the size and details are great but agree the wrist mounted storm bolters aren't that great.