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Wildeybeast
08-29-2012, 04:33 AM
After the interwebz gremlins stole my post yesterday, here is a quick summary for everyone.

GW UK now charging 10p for a carrier bag (plastic bag for transporting goods from store to home for our transatlantic cousins). We are unclear if non-Uk stores are doing likewise. Some people felt that GW becoming more environmentally responsible was a good thing, others were outraged at the thought. 'Bags for life' are a waste of money and a con, re-using your old bags or taking in a proper one is the best option. There was some off topic stuff about the Yanks stealing Native American magic and perhaps some other stuff I forgot, but the key point is be prepared to pay for bags in all UK stores.

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 04:36 AM
You totally missed out that all goods should be couried to your house and everyone should be forced to drive at around 55mph

DrLove42
08-29-2012, 04:36 AM
Its 10p for a normal run of the mill black plastic bag.

The 50p bags for life are a durable drawstring variety.

Wildeybeast
08-29-2012, 04:40 AM
You totally missed out that all goods should be couried to your house and everyone should be forced to drive at around 55mph

Sorry Wolfie, forgot that bit.


Its 10p for a normal run of the mill black plastic bag.

The 50p bags for life are a durable drawstring variety.

Don't buy the durable ones, they are a scam! They take up so much energy in production you would have to use it around 400 times before you actually start to benefit the environment, and it will most likely break before then! Wow, de ja vu.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 04:41 AM
*generic comment of rage*

You're welcome. :p

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 04:44 AM
Given the price of the object 10p is a pitance to pay!

Also is there a price escalator based on bag size?

Can I just buy a small bag without making any purchase? (they make dinky sandwich bags to keep my pork pie and scotch eggs)

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 04:50 AM
Yes but considering the price of the product the least you should expect is the means to carry it home. Combined with GW's general lack of change in it's tills.

And the pro-enviroment argument does nothing to address the issue of the worlds massive over population...

Wildeybeast
08-29-2012, 05:03 AM
No, only Soylent Green will do that. However, if everyone in this country stopped using new carrier bags every time they went to the shops it would make a significant difference.

Edit: Or indeed they stopped going to the shops and ordered everything online.

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 05:04 AM
You use cash?!

Also, I can carry it home I have hands...

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 05:24 AM
Yes, along with my tinfoil hat, i use cash where possible.

Cpt Codpiece
08-29-2012, 05:49 AM
No, only Soylent Green will do that. However, if everyone in this country stopped using new carrier bags every time they went to the shops it would make a significant difference.

Edit: Or indeed they stopped going to the shops and ordered everything online.

you must not have ordered from asda online. have you seen the ammount of bags they use to bundle evrything in the delivery crates? its like a bag per item and 2 for frozen/chilled stuff LOL

but seriously. come on people carry a backpack. or steal a shopping trolley from your local supermarket then cite environmental issues for taking it off premises :D

alshrive
08-29-2012, 05:53 AM
This comment supercedes my previous deleted one

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 05:53 AM
I always use a backpack. :p

OrksOrksOrks
08-29-2012, 05:56 AM
Yes but considering the price of the product the least you should expect is the means to carry it home. Combined with GW's general lack of change in it's tills.

And the pro-enviroment argument does nothing to address the issue of the worlds massive over population...

Tough **** then? More and more places are going to start doing this, its already law in Wales and will soon spread to Scotland and NI, eventually it will be law over here too, Marks and Spencer have been doing it for over a year now, its the way of the world, if you don't want to pay extra, what is the harm in reusing a bag? These schemes have made people more aware of the bags that they're using and reduced the reliance on them, it may be a drop in the ocean, but what is ignoring the problem completly going to do?

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 05:57 AM
Yes, along with my tinfoil hat, i use cash where possible.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_5KQbD2fCCxw/SBFGiDLK8jI/AAAAAAAAAlU/fUfwtJ87B9s/s320/Tin+Foil+Hat.jpg

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:03 AM
Tough **** then? More and more places are going to start doing this, its already law in Wales and will soon spread to Scotland and NI, eventually it will be law over here too, Marks and Spencer have been doing it for over a year now, its the way of the world, if you don't want to pay extra, what is the harm in reusing a bag? These schemes have made people more aware of the bags that they're using and reduced the reliance on them, it may be a drop in the ocean, but what is ignoring the problem completly going to do?

Aren't you a happy little tree hugger? So one part of England and All Scotland have to do it, so what? why make everyone?
I already re-use bags, I use them as make shift bin-liners, so I don't need to use a full size bin liner and waste it on a small bin.

I'm just going to internet order stuff that comes cheaper, and with all those lovely air packs they shove in for packaging that come free. Only population reduction will solve environmental issues. And educating the troglodytes that drop litter.


http://bp1.blogger.com/_5KQbD2fCCxw/SBFGiDLK8jI/AAAAAAAAAlU/fUfwtJ87B9s/s320/Tin+Foil+Hat.jpg

yeah pretty much like that buut with less yellow.

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 06:16 AM
Awesome :D

I like how the Government changes its minds about things

Regarding VED:

The Government recognises that other taxes can deliver environmental benefits, but their aim is not environmental but revenue raising. These are specifically excluded from the Treasury definition and include taxes such as Vehicle Excise Duty, Fuel Duty and Air Passenger Duty.
So the Graduated Vehicle Excise Duty, based on Vehicle emmissions is therefore not to encuourage environmental concious behaviour but to raise funds :)

I think this sums up a lot of the green policies, lets make money from things with the outward appearance of being green.

Having said that, the least oil we can use the better if you ask me, lets stop OPEC holding the world to randsom.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:20 AM
And then if it meets their stated aim of reducing use, they have a revenue gap to fill ¬_¬

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 06:24 AM
I have a great way to fill the revenue gap, half benefits and remove council housing.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:27 AM
It needs fine tuning but essentially yes, why is it everyone you see on top tier benefits seem a lot less in need of them then the people who just fail/just qualify?

OrksOrksOrks
08-29-2012, 06:27 AM
I have a great way to fill the revenue gap, half benefits and remove council housing.

And then what would you do with all the dead children lining the streets? Or the obvious increase in crime that putting so many people out of pocket and out of home would cause?

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:31 AM
incinerations the current trend, but it's not exactly carbon neutral.

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 06:31 AM
Why should I cary the burden of people having children that cannot support them?
Why can my neighbours daughter be given a two bed room house and afford to completely redocrate it when she has never worked and has not even got 5 GCSEs, just because she chose to have a child outside of a stable relationship.
There is no way that the work shy (I am using that term to differntiate between those who cannot and will not work) should have an higher standard of living than those who go out and work for minimum pay, that is simply wrong.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 06:31 AM
And then what would you do with all the dead children lining the streets? Or the obvious increase in crime that putting so many people out of pocket and out of home would cause?


Put them all on an island somewhere far away...


Oh wait.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:35 AM
Why should I cary the burden of people having children that cannot support them?
Why can my neighbours daughter be given a two bed room house and afford to completely redocrate it when she has never worked and has not even got 5 GCSEs, just because she chose to have a child outside of a stable relationship.
There is no way that the work shy (I am using that term to differntiate between those who cannot and will not work) should have an higher standard of living than those who go out and work for minimum pay, that is simply wrong.
This^ a million times this.

OrksOrksOrks
08-29-2012, 06:35 AM
Why should I cary the burden of people having children that cannot support them?
Why can my neighbours daughter be given a two bed room house and afford to completely redocrate it when she has never worked and has not even got 5 GCSEs, just because she chose to have a child outside of a stable relationship.
There is no way that the work shy (I am using that term to differntiate between those who cannot and will not work) should have an higher standard of living than those who go out and work for minimum pay, that is simply wrong.

They generally don't have a higher standard of living. The advantageous is almost always with the worker. Might I suggest you stop getting all your views from the Daily Mail?

And we do that because we're a nice society, if someone needs support then we give them that, everyone has the right to live and we enable that in this country in the best way we can.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:37 AM
May I suggest you try living on a single income below £30k? and try and find a decent house.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 06:39 AM
They generally don't have a higher standard of living. The advantageous is almost always with the worker. Might I suggest you stop getting all your views from the Daily Mail?

And we do that because we're a nice society, if someone needs support then we give them that, everyone has the right to live and we enable that in this country in the best way we can.


Oh REALLY??

I work 50 hours a week, minimum wage for an under 21, I easily deserve a 21 year old's wage.

After I've paid my rent, my bills, MY TAXES, and my food, I get left with about 30 quid a week. I can't afford to buy myself anything!
These freakin' people sit on their arses and can buy nice things, and have a better standard of living than me.

Is that fair to you? Really?

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:40 AM
Oh REALLY??

I work 50 hours a week, minimum wage for an under 21, I easily deserve a 21 year old's wage.

After I've paid my rent, my bills, MY TAXES, and my food, I get left with about 30 quid a week. I can't afford to buy myself anything!
These freakin' people sit on their arses and can buy nice things, and have a better standard of living than me.

Is that fair to you? Really?
Nope. I could afford to run a house if All i ever wanted to do was go to work, then go home and sleep. not really room for eating in there. Also if the better half moved in with me She'd lose the pittance the sick pay her, when if they just fixed her she'd have never lost her job...

Wildeybeast
08-29-2012, 06:43 AM
Scared of the man eh? You're right to be afraid



Especially since TDA joined them. Trust no one.

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 06:44 AM
My neighbours daughter and granddaughter weren't in the Daily Mail. I talk to my neighbours because I am a friendly person who helps her do some of the jobs around the house that she can't manage.

Another example, again personally known to me, woman, in a long term committed relationship with her partner, they decide to have a child and he walks out on her. She is left with her child and it works out financially better for her to stay at home and not work, then to work full time as a nurse (which she studied and obtained the relevant qualifications/trainning) and pay child minder fees.

Again not Daily Mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16812185,

Look at the info graphic, and what he is able to spend his cash on, again not exactly slumming it.
Weekly shopping £240 Includes food and household goods, 24 cans of lager, 200 cigarettes and a large pouch of tobacco.

Quick Calculation from Tesco, £240/week of which £60-100 (depending on brand) of that is just the larger and cigarettes!!

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:45 AM
Scared of the man eh? You're right to be afraid



Especially since TDA joined them. Trust no one.
That's what did it.

Wildeybeast
08-29-2012, 06:53 AM
That's what did it.

I hope you're wearing surgical gloves when you handle that cash, because they can get your fingerprints and DNA from it. And best to dip it in vinegar when you get it, who knows what biological agents or mind control drugs they could have put on the.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 06:53 AM
I hope you're wearing surgical gloves when you handle that cash, because they can get your fingerprints and DNA from it. And best to dip it in vinegar when you get it, who knows what biological agents or mind control drugs they could have put on the.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 07:07 AM
DRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSS SSSSS!

Trust no one.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:08 AM
Everything you have been told, is a lie!

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 07:10 AM
TURN IT OFF.... TURN IT OFF.... TURN IT OFF....

They're here....

TURN IT OFF....

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:13 AM
quick microwave the HDD

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 07:19 AM
It's happening again, everyone is dying around me...

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:22 AM
It's not dead, it's sleeping?

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 07:29 AM
Like Cthulhu?

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 07:30 AM
Poke it with a stick?

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:32 AM
look it moved, it's pining for the fjords...

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 07:40 AM
Pinging the fjords, what's the response time anything under 2ms is awesiome

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:46 AM
close enough

Adra
08-29-2012, 07:49 AM
seems like a pointless conversation. having a bag for life means you dont buy more bags and bags are bad for the earth then fine. I picked up the 50p bag and have used it a couple of times already. Also they replace it for free if it breaks. As I live in Wales and have been playing 5p for bags for over a year i can say that it does make you find alternate solutions.

And hay, if you dont wanna buy a bag, just carry it around in your mits. They are wrapped in plastic after all.

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 07:51 AM
seems like a pointless conversation. having a bag for life means you dont buy more bags and bags are bad for the earth then fine. I picked up the 50p bag and have used it a couple of times already. Also they replace it for free if it breaks. As I live in Wales and have been playing 5p for bags for over a year i can say that it does make you find alternate solutions.

And hay, if you dont wanna buy a bag, just carry it around in your mits. They are wrapped in plastic after all.
But you only have two paws, what if you buy sh!tloads? Doesn't that deserve a bag? At the minimum?
Or could you simply buy cheaper online and get it delivered? hmm?

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 07:55 AM
seems like a pointless conversation.
Most are to be honest.


having a bag for life means you dont buy more bags and bags are bad for the earth then fine. I picked up the 50p bag and have used it a couple of times already. Also they replace it for free if it breaks.
Not necessarily true, often people forget to bring their bags with them and so end up buying more bags for life. There is also the concern of how many times would you need to re-use a re-usable bag until its production cost (in terms of pollution) is equivalent to a disposable one, as their production leads to a signficant increased polution.
There is also the argument that why should you pay for it, when if you were to buy a kit from GW you'd (most likely) get free shipping on it.


And hay, if you dont wanna buy a bag, just carry it around in your mits. They are wrapped in plastic after all.
I made this point...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 07:57 AM
Do we ever have a conversation with a point?

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 08:04 AM
Frequently, like the one about the blue footed booby

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 08:05 AM
Do we ever have a conversation with a point?
What would be the point?

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-29-2012, 08:08 AM
A pencil.

Adra
08-29-2012, 08:11 AM
But you only have two paws, what if you buy sh!tloads? Doesn't that deserve a bag? At the minimum? Or could you simply buy cheaper online and get it delivered? hmm?

Hay they are boxes man just stack em up and carry the lot :P and no you dont deserve a bag sir, buy your own. If your buying online im sure you would have a delivery charge...well from most folks


There is also the argument that why should you pay for it, when if you were to buy a kit from GW you'd (most likely) get free shipping on it.

Thats a good point but I guess it comes down to people wanting different shopping experiances. I like to pop to my local gw and have a browse, pick up a few bits and bobs. Dont really bother with online shopping for GW stuff except for 3rd party bits.


I made this point...

And it was so good I made it again :)

Psychosplodge
08-29-2012, 08:16 AM
Hay they are boxes man just stack em up and carry the lot :P and no you dont deserve a bag sir, buy your own. If your buying online im sure you would have a delivery charge...well from most folks




Nope, because buying online generally means paying less than RRP, and is often still available with FOC delivery

Wolfshade
08-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Totalwargamer 35% off Dark Vengance anyone.

Also, I like the idea of charging people for plastic bags, but to whom does the revenue go?
The Company?
General Tax?
Specific Green initiatives?

For instance motorcity (Detroit) had (may still have) a car/road tax meant that significant proportions of money was spent on green plans like *** transit and cycle network.
In the UK, VED goes in the same pot as income tax, and VAT.

Maybe their needs to be some correlation, so we can see, for every X amount we spend on oil products Y amounts is invested in alternative technologies (like nuclear :))

Adra
08-30-2012, 02:20 AM
Also, I like the idea of charging people for plastic bags, but to whom does the revenue go?

Well in Wales the money from general plastic bag charges goes to charities in a lot of cases, but thats not mandatory. In Wales the money GW makes on bags also goes to a specific charity but I cant remember which one...darn I was told this only yesterday.

I'm not gonna get into a buying stuff online is cheaper thing because it obviously is cheaper and thats that. GW makes more money from a 3rd party sale than it does from a sale in one of its stores due to costs so you cant do a screw you to GW by buying online cheaper cos they always get their pound of flesh. However, i like my local GW and want to support them and for them to stay open so I buy my gear there. Yeah its more expensive but I get a lot out of them to so its a fair trade for me. Other people can make their own call.

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 02:24 AM
I'm not into a screw you GW debate, I just think it's wrong is all.

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 02:40 AM
Well this is it, you end up with things being brought in under the aegis of being environmental but then it just gives private enterprise another revenue stream.

Though if it disuades people from buying bags then all the better. Though I fear that as the price of the bag is negligable compared to the goods brought that some people will not change their habbits.

I mean, look at fuel prices, £1.50 a litre (thats about $9/gallon(US)), when I started driving it was down at 70p/l and it hasn't had a discernable impact on car usage (the economic down turn did, but road numbers are creeping back up), people will pay through the nose not to be inconvienced.

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 02:43 AM
Yeah cause every increase is oh it's just a couple of pence...

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 02:50 AM
Exactly,

I mean it is crazy that for the cost of travelling into the city and back out (by train or by car) I can park in the city centre for about 4-5 hours

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 02:56 AM
Well I can go to meadowhall, get everything I want, and get home, before I could get there by public transport...

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 02:59 AM
But you have the super tram!

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 03:03 AM
Exactly, 25-50mins into town 20mins back out to meadowhall, as opposed to 15mins each way by car, plus ten mins to go round waterstones, waterstones, whsmith, and gw.

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 03:15 AM
The train and car are comparable in terms of JT, however there is a 20/30 minute walk to the train station to begin with.
That is before you even factor in the ease of then popping things in the boot and not having to lug them around on the 'bus/train/tram/walk with them

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 03:24 AM
oh thats without the cost, I don't think it costs be a gallon of fuel, as opposed to whatever the ridiculous tram price is now, and i missed the 10/15 min walk to the tramstop...

The Madman
08-30-2012, 03:50 AM
I have my own bag for life, because i got tired of hoarding plastic bags in my bedroom.

Deadlift
08-30-2012, 04:33 AM
Want a bag for life ?

Get married.

Seriously though, the amount we spend on the plastic crap the bags should be free, but then if you can afford to buy the models, then you can afford the bag.

Don't know if they even started this charging for bags yet though. I haven't been asked to pay for one :)

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-30-2012, 04:36 AM
Want a bag for life ?

Get married.


Was that a Salamanders Rhino that just went past??

"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH BUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNN"

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 04:39 AM
Want a bag for life ?

Get married.

Seriously though, the amount we spend on the plastic crap the bags should be free, but then if you can afford to buy the models, then you can afford the bag.

Don't know if they even started this charging for bags yet though. I haven't been asked to pay for one :)

Why buy the cow if you're getting the milk anyway?:confused:

They don't ask they just charge you...

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 04:40 AM
Nah it was a wannabe Baal, infernus. (now with added flamers!)

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-30-2012, 04:41 AM
I was actually thinking about this... I don't really care about bags, I never have bags from GW or any retailer anyway, everything is like a 2 minute walk from my flat so it isn't really that annoying to just carry it in my hands or in a backpack or something.

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 04:50 AM
I find plastic bags to be very useful. I use them:

in my waste paper bins throughout the house
to collect my dogs' poops
as a waterproof container for my clothes while commuting
again to transport other things
as a cheap alternative to sandwich box

Psychosplodge
08-30-2012, 04:50 AM
It's irritating its not unreasonable to expect a bag. How long till they have bag sales targets?

also what wolfie said minus the dog bit.

Wolfshade
08-30-2012, 05:01 AM
Something like this

1 Blister / Bag

And then a sliding scale of price based on bag size

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-30-2012, 05:03 AM
I don't own any pets.

Wildeybeast
08-30-2012, 07:36 AM
seems like a pointless conversation. having a bag for life means you dont buy more bags and bags are bad for the earth then fine. I picked up the 50p bag and have used it a couple of times already. Also they replace it for free if it breaks. As I live in Wales and have been playing 5p for bags for over a year i can say that it does make you find alternate solutions.

And hay, if you dont wanna buy a bag, just carry it around in your mits. They are wrapped in plastic after all.



Not necessarily true, often people forget to bring their bags with them and so end up buying more bags for life. There is also the concern of how many times would you need to re-use a re-usable bag until its production cost (in terms of pollution) is equivalent to a disposable one, as their production leads to a signficant increased polution.


The bags for life use roughly around 400 times as much energy/resources in production as a bog standard bag, so you would have to use one about 400 times before you actually started being beneficial to the environment. I would be amazed if any of them lasted that long. As I've said before, buy a proper back pack for £20 that will last you the rest of your life and take that with you. Problem solved.


Totalwargamer 35% off Dark Vengance anyone.

Also, I like the idea of charging people for plastic bags, but to whom does the revenue go?
The Company?
General Tax?
Specific Green initiatives?

The money goes to the company, what they do with it is up to them. However, I believe most of the larger ones get fined by the government if they don't reduce bag usage, so the charge is to deter the customer from using them or to pay the fines if they do. Either way, I doubt they are making much money out them.

pgarfunkle
08-30-2012, 10:14 AM
I was in my local GW today and didn't get charged for a bag so I don't know how wide spread this practice is yet. Maybe thy are waiting for the weekend in my local.

Zahariel
08-31-2012, 05:08 AM
Well I can go to meadowhell, get everything I want, and get home, before I could get there by public transport...

Fixed that for you! God I do not miss that place at all...

Psychosplodge
08-31-2012, 05:16 AM
Fixed that for you! God I do not miss that place at all...
I usually put that lol.
The only + is the free parking.

Wolfshade
08-31-2012, 05:32 AM
What is it about subsituting the word hell into shopping centres.

Meadowhell
Merryhell

Ok, they are the only two I am aware of, both in terms of subsititutions and shopping centres

Wildeybeast
08-31-2012, 05:48 AM
I was in my local GW today and didn't get charged for a bag so I don't know how wide spread this practice is yet. Maybe thy are waiting for the weekend in my local.

You sure they haven't just put it on the bill without telling you? I'd be amazed if they had rolled it out in some stores and not others. Unless you are in an area outside of England, that might explain it.

pgarfunkle
08-31-2012, 06:03 AM
You sure they haven't just put it on the bill without telling you? I'd be amazed if they had rolled it out in some stores and not others. Unless you are in an area outside of England, that might explain it.

Nope I'm in England and checked the charge on the receipt at the time because i was curious after reading this thread and no charge for the bag.

I'm picking up dark vengeance tomorrow so will see what happens then

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-31-2012, 06:24 AM
Hmm, how odd. I was told the week before last in my local store.

Well it's definitely happening in Shrewsbury.


Also Wildey, I got home at like 11 last night so that's why I didn't add you. :(

Psychosplodge
08-31-2012, 06:55 AM
Well wolfie did band names from puns
I did films and charcters from quotes
Can't remember if TDA did one too

Lockark
08-31-2012, 11:30 AM
I'm a student. I learned quickly just empty out your book bag, and use that as your reuseable shopping bag. Expecially if you have to walk and/or take the bus for your groceries.

As for how this news effects me? Not at all. I would only ever buy one thing at a time, so I just would toss it in my wargame bag. I hated thows plastic bags before it became hip to. =P Not to mention I've never played regularly in a officle GW store.

Kirsten
08-31-2012, 11:33 AM
I think it is good, everywhere should charge for bags, then maybe people wouldn't be so wasteful with them

Lockark
08-31-2012, 11:55 AM
I think it is good, everywhere should charge for bags, then maybe people wouldn't be so wasteful with them

I nobel view, but also keep in mind most bags now are Bio-Degradable. Charging money for them is more of a cash grab then anything eals.

I still choose to not use plastic bags even when their free, because it's my choice all the same thow.
;)

Kirsten
08-31-2012, 12:22 PM
bio degradable or not, people still use far too many and it is good to try and cut down on that

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-31-2012, 12:52 PM
I'm bringing relevance to the people. You're welcome. :p

ksoh75
08-31-2012, 02:51 PM
I don't know what the big deal is...hell, my wife charges me to wash my underware.....she calls it a touching fee.......

It's the way of life now......"FREE" is meaningless

JMichael
08-31-2012, 03:43 PM
Here in California a lot of Grocery stores charge for plastic bags (not for paper though).
There are huge patches of plastic and other debris that collect in the oceans.

Wolfshade
08-31-2012, 05:30 PM
I'm bringing relevance to the people. You're welcome. :p

The discussion about nuclear power was relevant

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-31-2012, 05:51 PM
Not when it went awry.

Deadlift
08-31-2012, 06:19 PM
10 pages all about paying for a plastic bag :eek:

Seriously guys have we fallen this low ? Bag for life is a good idea, I pinched one of those red ones from games day last year. With a new starter set,chaos and da just around the corner. I think we can do better than moan about a fu*king bag.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
08-31-2012, 06:34 PM
It's only 3 pages for me. :p

Wildeybeast
09-01-2012, 03:58 AM
I think it is good, everywhere should charge for bags, then maybe people wouldn't be so wasteful with them


I nobel view, but also keep in mind most bags now are Bio-Degradable. Charging money for them is more of a cash grab then anything eals.

I still choose to not use plastic bags even when their free, because it's my choice all the same thow.
;)

Before too long everywhere will, the government is making them.


10 pages all about paying for a plastic bag :eek:

Seriously guys have we fallen this low ? Bag for life is a good idea, I pinched one of those red ones from games day last year. With a new starter set,chaos and da just around the corner. I think we can do better than moan about a fu*king bag.

No they're not! Why is no one listening to me? They are are con, they take far more energy to produce than a standard one and will break before you have used it enough times to actually compensate for the energy costs. Re-use your old standard ones or buy a proper one and take that shopping!

pgarfunkle
09-01-2012, 08:06 AM
Hey all local GW store is now charging for bags.

Wildeybeast, I always thought that the main point of the bag for life was that it reduced the number of plastic bags ending up in land fill or lying/blowing around the streets rather than using less resources to produce than the bag for lifes.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-01-2012, 08:11 AM
It has an aquila on it, I am happy. :D

DF3CT
09-01-2012, 03:10 PM
You mean people still use debit and credit and allow the government to monitor their spending and what they spend it on? Crazy people.

Not sure why people aren't in the habit of taking their own bag when they go out for something.

DarkLink
09-01-2012, 05:39 PM
I like shopping at Costco. Just stick everything in a single, easily reusable or recyclable cardboard box. Makes unloading the car so much easier, as well.

Wildeybeast
09-02-2012, 03:28 AM
Hey all local GW store is now charging for bags.

Wildeybeast, I always thought that the main point of the bag for life was that it reduced the number of plastic bags ending up in land fill or lying/blowing around the streets rather than using less resources to produce than the bag for lifes.

Sort of, but given standard bags now disintegrate in 3 years, we don't need to worry about them taking up landfill any more. And saving on the end waste is pointless if you are using far more energy in the first place. We have to start thinking about wasting energy/resources in production as much as we do in throwing stuff away. Bags for life exist to make money for the stores, as someone else pointed out, how often do people forget to take it back to the shops with them and end up buying another one.

Psychosplodge
09-02-2012, 03:12 PM
I'm bringing relevance to the people. You're welcome. :p

You ruined the thread :p


10 pages all about paying for a plastic bag :eek:

Seriously guys have we fallen this low ? Bag for life is a good idea, I pinched one of those red ones from games day last year. With a new starter set,chaos and da just around the corner. I think we can do better than moan about a fu*king bag.

I was bored. I'll moan about the new starter set tomorrow when I've had a proper look at it.


You mean people still use debit and credit and allow the government to monitor their spending and what they spend it on? Crazy people.

Not sure why people aren't in the habit of taking their own bag when they go out for something.

You need one of my tin hats that wolfie posted, can't be arsed to see if that survived the thread cull though...

the jeske
09-05-2012, 11:27 AM
And then what would you do with all the dead children lining the streets? Or the obvious increase in crime that putting so many people out of pocket and out of home would cause?

the normal way to deal over population is war or civil war .


I was actually thinking about this... I don't really care about bags, I never have bags from GW or any retailer anyway, everything is like a 2 minute walk from my flat so it isn't really that annoying to just carry it in my hands or in a backpack or something.
and your saying that older people are siting on their butts and geting stuff you should be geting . golly . I have not seen a family father drop what he is doing and going out just because the clock hit 17:00 , unlike you youngsters . No respect , no work ethics ,only the crap about "My rights" , "The world owns me " , "I should be getting" etc.

On the bags front my wifes brother makes bags for military ships , they last on land for about 25 years of heavy use.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 11:45 AM
I got a Bag for Life at the weekend, and I freakin' love it. :D

It can fit not 1, but 2 Dark Vengeances!! HOW COOL IS THAT?

Cpt Codpiece
09-05-2012, 12:01 PM
I got a Bag for Life at the weekend, and I freakin' love it. :D


you got married?? :D

but seriously are the GW BFL ok then? if so i'll probably get one or two for general shopping. id rather have a GW branded one than an asda old woman friendly one LOL

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 12:10 PM
you got married?? :D

but seriously are the GW BFL ok then? if so i'll probably get one or two for general shopping. id rather have a GW branded one than an asda old woman friendly one LOL

I wish! I'd be the happiest man alive! :3

They're awesome, really durable, and if it breaks then I get to swap it for free!

Deadlift
09-05-2012, 12:47 PM
I wish! I'd be the happiest man alive! :3

They're awesome, really durable, and if it breaks then I get to swap it for free!

Sounds like the mrs then, well except the swapping bit. We don't go to those kind of parties.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 12:51 PM
Hahahaha! :p

Wildeybeast
09-05-2012, 01:20 PM
*Repeatedly bangs head against desk* I'm almost glad I'm back at work, at least there I get paid to have people not listen to me. :(

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 01:23 PM
What's up?

Wildeybeast
09-05-2012, 01:39 PM
People buying BFL's. They do more damage to the environment than ordinary ones. Buying them may save you money, but not the planet.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 01:41 PM
I just like the Aquila. I doubt I'll get much use of it.

Deadlift
09-05-2012, 04:44 PM
People buying BFL's. They do more damage to the environment than ordinary ones. Buying them may save you money, but not the planet.

Lol you wont let this one go will you :)

What about a reusable cotton or even paper bags then ?. To be honest most of my stuff is ordered online so comes in cardboard boxes. I bet the tree huggers hate that even more than the carrier bag, as the boxes are usually filled with plastic air bags as well.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 04:54 PM
All I hear is "grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr". :D

Wolfshade
09-05-2012, 05:01 PM
It's ok, I use my bags 401 times before I get rid of them

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-05-2012, 05:05 PM
That extra 1 makes it count.

Deadlift
09-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Contain paint overspray

If you’ve got a few small items to spray-paint, use a plastic bag to control the overspray. Just place one item at a time in the bag, spray-paint, and remove to a spread-out newspaper to dry. When you’re done, toss the bag for a easy cleanup.

I admit this is a copy and paste from a readers digest article :)

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 01:37 AM
I wish! I'd be the happiest man alive!!
That's not how marriage works.


Sounds like the mrs then, well except the swapping bit
You don't get to swap them cause they're faulty either.


Contain paint overspray

If you’ve got a few small items to spray-paint, use a plastic bag to control the overspray. Just place one item at a time in the bag, spray-paint, and remove to a spread-out newspaper to dry. When you’re done, toss the bag for a easy cleanup.

I admit this is a copy and paste from a readers digest article :)

I just have a multicoloured wheelie bin lid :D

Wolfshade
09-06-2012, 01:41 AM
I don't have wheelie bins :(

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 01:44 AM
You're clearly doing marriage wrong.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 01:49 AM
I'm not doing marriage...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 01:58 AM
Maybe you should. :p

Or get a Games Workshop bag for life.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 02:02 AM
Erm no I'm happy with the one I've got,
And I've already got two, as you never take them back out with you, it just costs you more money...

Deadlift
09-06-2012, 02:02 AM
I'm not doing marriage...

It's not so bad. You get used to the yelling.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 02:04 AM
lol, you can get the yelling anyway, but you don't lose half your stuff when she leaves...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 02:07 AM
Sign a pre-nup. :p

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 02:10 AM
Not enforcible in this country, they're a foreign thing.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 02:15 AM
Eh, some people like marriage, some don't. *shrug*

Anyway, now I REALLY need to go.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 02:17 AM
Go man GO, you don't want to end up sat on a damp chair all day...

RGilbert26
09-06-2012, 03:17 AM
Funny how a topic about Bags for Life ends up on the subject of marriage, lol.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 03:22 AM
I know we're normally off topic by now...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 03:23 AM
RGilbert26 -This surprises you?!? :p

addamsfamily36
09-06-2012, 04:02 AM
Not that i advise this, but one of our friends at our local GW brought a"bag for life" from our other friend (who is the manger of our local GW) and proceeded to rip the bag up in front of him. when finished he returned it to the counter to request a new "bag for life". Was very funny to watch. Probably sounds like a really dick-ish move come to think of it.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 04:06 AM
Epic...

Wolfshade
09-06-2012, 04:27 AM
Ohh burn

DrLove42
09-06-2012, 04:55 AM
I'm sorry but thats just not funny. its just a dick move

Were i manager i'd have refused to swap it.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 04:58 AM
I'd have banned him personally.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:02 AM
I'm sorry but thats just not funny. its just a dick move

Were i manager i'd have refused to swap it.

It's demonstrating a loophole, if he'd done it the second, then its a dick move....


I'd have banned him personally.

Harsh...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 05:05 AM
Not really...

I don't tolerate arseholes.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:06 AM
lol, like i said doing it more than once is an arsehole, first times probably funny...

Wolfshade
09-06-2012, 05:08 AM
It certainly demonstrates a loophole, though perhaps there could be better ways that this could be done.
But, at the end of the day when you have highlighted something as an issue and not recieved any feedback on it sometimes you have to try things out, like the haulage firm owner who attempted to drive a "super" lorry (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8387111.stm)

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 05:15 AM
This is why you can't have nice things, like ponies everywhere.

addamsfamily36
09-06-2012, 05:17 AM
It's ok. We are all really good friends at our GW. we hang out with our Manager all the time. It was a very light hearted and everyone saw the funny side of it. But i agree if you did it in a stranger store then it would be very dick-ish. And our friend would never do that. In-fact im pretty sure he paid for a new one.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:19 AM
this is why you can't have nice things
Bad TDA

http://www.deviantart.com/download/270424397/sad_pinkie_pie_by_raikoh14-d4h04st.jpg

DrLove42
09-06-2012, 05:19 AM
Awwww...Sad pony is sad

RGilbert26
09-06-2012, 05:21 AM
Doing that means you've wasted the money spent and you wouldnt recieve a new one. You only get a new one if it was genuinely damaged. And yes the guy's a dick.

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 05:22 AM
I see no pony.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:24 AM
I see no pony.

look there it is

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 05:29 AM
And now that I have eaten my lunch I am gone.

Enjoy your pony related squalor.

DrLove42
09-06-2012, 05:30 AM
Mod abuse!

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:32 AM
Indeed good sir, indeed.

Power corrupts....

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 05:37 AM
Automated Message: The Mod currently has "0" f*cks left to give, please try again later.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 05:38 AM
I think a bot would have used a different font...

addamsfamily36
09-06-2012, 07:42 AM
Nah this bots all about Italics!


Doing that means you've wasted the money spent and you wouldnt recieve a new one. You only get a new one if it was genuinely damaged. And yes the guy's a dick.

15p for quite a funny joke is money well spent i think. and thats the important thing here. it was done in light hearted humour. amongst friends. no innocents were harmed (well except maybe the bag). and apparently also a pony has been eaten by TDA, but thats another story.

Either way it was a bit of fun. had he done it elsewhere yes dick move. but he didn't so not really a dick.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 07:56 AM
He does that... He likes to horde them for himself...

Wildeybeast
09-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Lol you wont let this one go will you :)

What about a reusable cotton or even paper bags then ?. To be honest most of my stuff is ordered online so comes in cardboard boxes. I bet the tree huggers hate that even more than the carrier bag, as the boxes are usually filled with plastic air bags as well.

Nevers! Cotton ones are better, assuming they are fairtrade. TBH, just buy a rucksack and it will last actually you for the rest of life and probably that of your children as well.


It's ok, I use my bags 401 times before I get rid of them

Go ahead, laugh, laugh while you can for tomorrow you laugh as skulls!

At the risk of bringing this back on topic, we could steal all Pyscho's ponies and recycle them into plastic bags.

Psychosplodge
09-06-2012, 12:26 PM
At the risk of bringing this back on topic, we could steal all Pyscho's ponies and recycle them into plastic bags.

What a horrific suggestion, and no to the recycling too...

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
09-06-2012, 12:28 PM
I agree with Wildey. :p