Human armies (or lack thereof)

[brominated]

I was sitting in my local GW when it struck me that there was a serious lack of human representation in Warhammer fantasy. Out of the dozen armies, there are only two human factions in a world where humans are meant to be the most populous race (Skaven aside of course!) A few of the buddies of mine and I were considering that maybe adding an army of humans that use pikes and Crossbows like Spanish Squares in the late renaissance period. What about you guys? What do you think would make a nice addition to the Warhammer world?

[wittdooley]

I think they just need to bring back Kislev. It's already been a part of their universe!

[Mike X]

I was sitting in my local GW when it struck me that there was a serious lack of human representation in Warhammer fantasy. Out of the dozen armies, there are only two human factions in a world where humans are meant to be the most populous race (Skaven aside of course!)

There are 15 factions in Warhammer; soon to be 16 if they actually add Chaos Dwarfs.

[The AKH]

A few of the buddies of mine and I were considering that maybe adding an army of humans that use pikes and Crossbows like Spanish Squares in the late renaissance period. What about you guys? What do you think would make a nice addition to the Warhammer world?

Sounds like Dogs of War to me! :D And I'd be all for bringing them back into the spotlight!

[PostWarFolk]

I agree with wittdooley. Kislev were awesome. The model of a guy on a polar bear. Brilliant.

[lobster-overlord]

Cathay, Araby. Two other areas that have human presense/armies but do not have models yet. Given time, they could be represented, but other armies might have to go on hiatus for a while, unless the game is gaining that much momentum over the past few years.

I personally would love to see a Cathayan army finally. Ninja and Samurai that don't look like rats would be cool in Warhammer.

John M>

[Faultie]

As mentioned, there is also, kinda-sorta, Kislev and Dogs of War/Regiments of Renown (representing Tilea, Estalia, and the Border Princes, to an extent).

I would be all for a full Army Book for Kislev.

[wittdooley]

God would I love to see some bear Cavalry. Sweet lord, would i Love that.

I'd also love to see some Araby with Djinns and Flying Carpet Cav.... But one can wish, can't he?

[Chris*ta]

Now technically, GW have already done an army for Araby. But for Warmaster rather than WFB. See the GW website, http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1490419&rootCatGameStyle= .

I only found this when looking through the Specialist Games catalogue.

They look really good, I mean troops on flying carpets!

But I'm not going to play a game that no one else plays, so I'm not going to buy them.

It is a pity that there aren't afew more human armies in WFB.

[Mike X]

They look really good, I mean troops on flying carpets!

Totally just killed it.

[BilboBaggins]

Well Technically there are 3 Human (or mostly) armies, Empire, Bretonnia and Warriors of Chaos.
There are 2 abandoned armies, Dogs of War and Kislev.

Now you can use rules from other armies for Cathay, Ind, Araby, Nippon, Etc. I've seen Nippon army using Bretonnia's book for example.

There are a few fan-books out there for human armies, Pirates of Sartosa, Araby, Norse and others to use for fun games.

[L192837465]

Don't forget that VC are mostly humans.

[brominated]

Yeah I remember the old Dogs of War armies and those were a little silly. My real problem with DoW was that they had no real coherency as a single army. Yes you could have painted them up in colors but at the end of the day, the entire army felt as if it was hodgepodge. I know that was kind of the idea, but I do feel that a bit of uniformity makes an army a proper army. Call me old fashioned. Oh, and some of the rules were silly broken ;)

[BilboBaggins]

Yeah I remember the old Dogs of War armies and those were a little silly. My real problem with DoW was that they had no real coherency as a single army. Yes you could have painted them up in colors but at the end of the day, the entire army felt as if it was hodgepodge. I know that was kind of the idea, but I do feel that a bit of uniformity makes an army a proper army. Call me old fashioned. Oh, and some of the rules were silly broken ;)

That's why Dogs of War Online (http://www.dogsofwaronline.com) has released the first play test of the Army Book they've been working on. The Hope is after a few rounds of play testing we can convince the Indy GT's to accept it like some are accepting the Indy Chaos Dwarfs book (Dwarfs of Chaos).

[Aldramelech]

I was sitting in my local GW when it struck me that there was a serious lack of human representation in Warhammer fantasy. Out of the dozen armies, there are only two human factions in a world where humans are meant to be the most populous race (Skaven aside of course!) A few of the buddies of mine and I were considering that maybe adding an army of humans that use pikes and Crossbows like Spanish Squares in the late renaissance period. What about you guys? What do you think would make a nice addition to the Warhammer world?

3, warriors of chaos are technically human. And the correct term is "Tercio" :D

[Faultie]

Yeah I remember the old Dogs of War armies and those were a little silly. My real problem with DoW was that they had no real coherency as a single army. Yes you could have painted them up in colors but at the end of the day, the entire army felt as if it was hodgepodge. I know that was kind of the idea, but I do feel that a bit of uniformity makes an army a proper army. Call me old fashioned. Oh, and some of the rules were silly broken ;)

Actually, the Dogs of War had plenty of coherency (at least in their 6th ed form) because you could buy generic units and paint them all up.

Regiments of Renown, however, were indeed quite hodge-podge. I don't know if any of their rules are what I'd call "broken", however. Most of the signature units (with the exception of, perhaps, Lost Legion, Republican Guard, and Voland's Venators) are significantly overpriced for what you get, especially compared to contemporary armies (much less those now existing).

[Aldramelech]

I did like the Bird men, great models.