Xzarol
07-07-2012, 06:33 AM
1.
Has anyone else noticed that under the References Page (410), that Grey Knight Paladins are Characters (63)?
This seems pretty awesome, to be honest.
So now Paladins can:
Challenge
Pinpoint Shoot AND Pinpoint Strike
Use Glorious Intervention
Just double checking with everyone to make sure that I'm reading this all correctly.
2.
A Nemesis Dreadknight, armed with A Nemesis Greatsword, has [4] Strength 10 Attacks that, because of the Greatsword Powers, can reroll To Hit, To Wound, and because of the Sword AND MC status can reroll Armor Penetration?
I think this is correct. The argument I saw was over RAW versus RAI (sp?), since the Nemesis Greatsword would be taken purely for the ability to gain rerolls, while the Nemesis Doomfist would be the weapon used to attack with, given that it's now Strength 10.
3.
What is the opinion with Grey Knights and their Unusual Weapons? Do they gain the benefit of having Halberds (Axes), or do they purely follow the Codex and keep the Halberd Profile of Init+2 AP3?
At first, I saw the ruling for Unusual Force Weapons and just decided that it was fine and GKs weren't affected. I've seen a lot of people talking about it since though, which has got me confused.
4.
Purely for speculation, do you think taking a Gatling Psylincer on a DK is worth it? It's 35 points for 12 shots, but with Dreadknights being Characters now, it would give a pretty decent chance at sniping commanding officers, or simply pouring out some firepower into something that can be easily popped.
5.
Do you think or still think Grey Knights are an overpowered Codex?
I know a lot of people still hold this opinion. Lately, it has gotten to me pretty badly.
I attend my towns monthly Escalation League (we are currently just getting into 1250 points). We had our first Sixth Edition game on Thursday.
To preface a little bit, I've been playing Daemonhunters ever since I started 40K back in High School (8 years ago). I played them through the thick of it, and I was so happy when our new Codex came out. I've always been a big fan of them, ever since I was introduced. Anyway...
I was playing at my local league, and a couple of people were sitting around the table watching. One of the guys watching constantly commented about how Grey Knights are the no brainer overpowered Codex that everyone is playing and winning tournaments with.
Needless to say I was extremely pissed off, and it pretty well ruined the vibe of the game for me. It feels bad to have someone just verbally **** on your choice of army. I'm a huge wuss though, and I didn't say anything about it.
I just...I get really frustrated when people just say that sort of stuff without qualifying it, you know? I look at the Adepticon results for 2011 at the end of 5th, and Grey Knights aren't even in the top four. Necrons are there three times in that list (which is the army the guy who was commenting plays, by the way).
Not saying that Necrons are stupid, mind you. I know they were in the same boat as GKs, and I'm glad they have plenty of new toys.
Anyway, I just want to hear some opinions outside of my hobby store. And if anyone has them...maybe some statistics? I would love to have more information on the subject.
Thanks for reading my piles of text, guys. Sixth Edition has really ignited the Wargaming spark for me again. About to paint one of my Dreadknights now, actually. =P
Has anyone else noticed that under the References Page (410), that Grey Knight Paladins are Characters (63)?
This seems pretty awesome, to be honest.
So now Paladins can:
Challenge
Pinpoint Shoot AND Pinpoint Strike
Use Glorious Intervention
Just double checking with everyone to make sure that I'm reading this all correctly.
2.
A Nemesis Dreadknight, armed with A Nemesis Greatsword, has [4] Strength 10 Attacks that, because of the Greatsword Powers, can reroll To Hit, To Wound, and because of the Sword AND MC status can reroll Armor Penetration?
I think this is correct. The argument I saw was over RAW versus RAI (sp?), since the Nemesis Greatsword would be taken purely for the ability to gain rerolls, while the Nemesis Doomfist would be the weapon used to attack with, given that it's now Strength 10.
3.
What is the opinion with Grey Knights and their Unusual Weapons? Do they gain the benefit of having Halberds (Axes), or do they purely follow the Codex and keep the Halberd Profile of Init+2 AP3?
At first, I saw the ruling for Unusual Force Weapons and just decided that it was fine and GKs weren't affected. I've seen a lot of people talking about it since though, which has got me confused.
4.
Purely for speculation, do you think taking a Gatling Psylincer on a DK is worth it? It's 35 points for 12 shots, but with Dreadknights being Characters now, it would give a pretty decent chance at sniping commanding officers, or simply pouring out some firepower into something that can be easily popped.
5.
Do you think or still think Grey Knights are an overpowered Codex?
I know a lot of people still hold this opinion. Lately, it has gotten to me pretty badly.
I attend my towns monthly Escalation League (we are currently just getting into 1250 points). We had our first Sixth Edition game on Thursday.
To preface a little bit, I've been playing Daemonhunters ever since I started 40K back in High School (8 years ago). I played them through the thick of it, and I was so happy when our new Codex came out. I've always been a big fan of them, ever since I was introduced. Anyway...
I was playing at my local league, and a couple of people were sitting around the table watching. One of the guys watching constantly commented about how Grey Knights are the no brainer overpowered Codex that everyone is playing and winning tournaments with.
Needless to say I was extremely pissed off, and it pretty well ruined the vibe of the game for me. It feels bad to have someone just verbally **** on your choice of army. I'm a huge wuss though, and I didn't say anything about it.
I just...I get really frustrated when people just say that sort of stuff without qualifying it, you know? I look at the Adepticon results for 2011 at the end of 5th, and Grey Knights aren't even in the top four. Necrons are there three times in that list (which is the army the guy who was commenting plays, by the way).
Not saying that Necrons are stupid, mind you. I know they were in the same boat as GKs, and I'm glad they have plenty of new toys.
Anyway, I just want to hear some opinions outside of my hobby store. And if anyone has them...maybe some statistics? I would love to have more information on the subject.
Thanks for reading my piles of text, guys. Sixth Edition has really ignited the Wargaming spark for me again. About to paint one of my Dreadknights now, actually. =P