WD treachery!

[Wildeybeast]

Anyone else notice that on page 4 of the UK edition, the double page spread of the new rulebook, in fact features a picture of the French edition of the rule book, describing La Death Guard and Les World Eaters? What is this madness? I smell the treacherous stench of perfidy from our cowardly continental cousins! That or the familiar reek of yet more shocking editing from the WD team. It's hard to tell which.

[gresha]

I noticed that as well in the US edition. I was slightly confused at it as well. As much as I'd like to blame the French I'm gonna have to say its GW's editing team.

[Andrew283]

I smellz and invasion. Hadrian's wall save me!

[gwensdad]

*goes to look*

*blinks*

Death Guard and Black Legion are feminine?

[Lane]

It's a new rule in 6th Ed.

Chaos armies throw down their weapons at the slightest sing of conflict.

[Ketharim]

Its even worse as you can imagine! Look at the right-hand page and you will realize it features the cover of the German rulebook! ;)

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It's because the French one was ready to print first. :p

I knows these things.

[Corvus-Master-of-The-4th]

That doesn't look German at all Ketharim, as it has the There is only war in English :P

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

^ Points to that man.

[Ketharim]

That doesn't look German at all Ketharim, as it has the There is only war in English :P

Not in my issue... hmmm.... the conspiracy broadens... ;)

[Wolfshade]

*goes to look*

*blinks*

Death Guard and Black Legion are feminine?

At least someone gets the important point

[Denzark]

Gentlemen I give you today's toast:

Confusion to our enemies,
And death to the French!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Gentlemen I give you today's toast:

Confusion to our enemies,
And death to the French!

*looks at lineage*

*sigh*

:(

[Wolfshade]

Gentlemen I give you today's toast:
Can I have marmalade with mine please?

[Psychosplodge]

Toast again?

Stop making me hungry....

[Limey El'Jonson]

Anyone else notice that on page 4 of the UK edition, the double page spread of the new rulebook, in fact features a picture of the French edition of the rule book, describing La Death Guard and Les World Eaters? What is this madness? I smell the treacherous stench of perfidy from our cowardly continental cousins! That or the familiar reek of yet more shocking editing from the WD team. It's hard to tell which.

Perhaps they didn't want the English speaking world to read the stuff on those pages? :p

[Wildeybeast]

Perhaps they didn't want the English speaking world to read the stuff on those pages? :p

Who, GW or the French? Or maybe both.....the conspiracy deepens

[Mr Mystery]

Bloody 'ell 'Arper.

[Wildeybeast]

And suddenly it all becomes painfully clear...


I am of French descent. :(


I think I have some french if you go back far enough, I'm part sinclair which is of Saint Clare derviation (and if you believe Dan Brown decendant of Jesus)


Tout de mere!

We have traitors amongst us! Insidious, devious traitors, hiding in plain sight, out to corrupt the English speaking world. They lull us into a false sense of security by constantly posting, until we get so used to them that we only skim what they are posting. Then they slip in their pro-Eurozone propaganda and their garlic filled cheese and their sexy sounding words and subliminally programme us, clearly having given up on any hope of winning a proper war. Given that they have infiltrated WD, they obviously have moles in every strata of British society. But it won't work I tell you! We've already taken all the words we want from your language, and all your best footballers and cheese, so you have nothing else of value!

[Deadlift]

Gentlemen I give you today's toast:

Confusion to our enemies,
And death to the French!

I'm up for a dash of froggie bashing, roast beef 1st then I'm ready.

[Wolfshade]

And suddenly it all becomes painfully clear...
Lies it I'm no more french than any norman ;)

[Wildeybeast]

Bah, you Normans can claim as much Viking ancestry as you like, you come from over the channel and you speak funny, that makes you French in my Saxon book!

[daboarder]

As a celt may you please all GET OFF MY LAWN!:p

[Wolfshade]

The norman's weren't proper french.
As for the idea of British, it is bizzare are we talking the ancient British pre celt/roman

[Wildeybeast]

The norman's weren't proper french.
As for the idea of British, it is bizzare are we talking the ancient British pre celt/roman

I know, 3rd or 4th generation Vikings that decided northern France was more hospitable than Scandinavia and filled with people who weren't really going to put up much of a fight for their country (it must be genetic) so they decided to stay, or something like that, I forget what exactly.

As for British, it's more a state of mind than anything. Briton, Roman, Saxon, Angles, Jutes, Norse, Norman and god knows what else, we are the true genetic mongrels of Europe. But what we must not lose sight of is that we are not French. :D

[Wolfshade]

Exactly, and this why I don't understand why you can have nationalist British as we are such a hodge-podge of ethnicities

[Wildeybeast]

Because people are stupid. I still get massive lolz at the fact the BNP have to allow black people to join them now when they want to send them all back to their 'country of ethnic origin' or whatever.

[Renegade]

I know, 3rd or 4th generation Vikings that decided northern France was more hospitable than Scandinavia and filled with people who weren't really going to put up much of a fight for their country (it must be genetic) so they decided to stay, or something like that, I forget what exactly.

As for British, it's more a state of mind than anything. Briton, Roman, Saxon, Angles, Jutes, Norse, Norman and god knows what else, we are the true genetic mongrels of Europe. But what we must not lose sight of is that we are not French. :D

"First, you must implicitly obey orders… Secondly, you must consider every man as your enemy who speaks ill of your King... And thirdly, you must hate a Frenchman as you do the devil" Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson :cool:

[Mr Mystery]

As a celt may you please all GET OFF MY LAWN!:p

As a Pict, you first you big 17th Century invention you! Romans only ever referred to the natives as Britonni.....

[Skeith154]

you europeans sure are an interestin bunch, being canadian i live in peace with the french who inhabit the eastern part of canada, and every other race who comes here... Peace and love dudes! no bashing of frogs!

[Renegade]

you europeans sure are an interestin bunch, being canadian i live in peace with the french who inhabit the eastern part of canada, and every other race who comes here... Peace and love dudes! no bashing of frogs!

You must be a Tau player then...:p

[Corvus-Master-of-The-4th]

It's what comes from a millenia of being forced together by the nature of the European continent and such like other factors mr Skeith154... Btw, Deadlift I think (bless Q.i.) that Beef is a french aristocratic name to deviate the name of the animal from that of which the peasents ate! :D (I may have got the wrong end of the stick however).

[Chris Copeland]

/looking askance at his European brethren:

I'm not sure I understood ANY of that. :/

[Mr Mystery]

Hush now.

Colonials should be seen and not heard.

[Wolfshade]

/looking askance at his European brethren:

I'm not sure I understood ANY of that. :/

In essence it is we have two words for things like cow and beef, sheep and mutton, pig and pork

[clively]

*goes to look*

*blinks*

Death Guard and Black Legion are feminine?
At least someone gets the important point

I'm pretty sure the problem was the French translator forgot about the point...

[Skeith154]

Actually i have asmall force of tyranids... which makes sense for a canadian- we're just one big reclaimation pool.

[daboarder]

As a Pict, you first you big 17th Century invention you! Romans only ever referred to the natives as Britonni.....

the celt's aren't a 17th century invention. they were a collection of tribes that inhabited most of central Europe and are strongly associated with Britain because that was their last "stronghold" after Roman and steppe expansion into Europe. In actual fact it was the different names used by the Romans that has continuously perpetuated the idea that the tribes such as the Gauls and Britoni were separate societies. Modern archaeological evidence suggests that the Celtic tribes were far more organized and governed than the Roman historians originally gave them credit for.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

And suddenly it all becomes painfully clear...
We have traitors amongst us! Insidious, devious traitors, hiding in plain sight, out to corrupt the English speaking world. They lull us into a false sense of security by constantly posting, until we get so used to them that we only skim what they are posting. Then they slip in their pro-Eurozone propaganda and their garlic filled cheese and their sexy sounding words and subliminally programme us, clearly having given up on any hope of winning a proper war. Given that they have infiltrated WD, they obviously have moles in every strata of British society. But it won't work I tell you! We've already taken all the words we want from your language, and all your best footballers and cheese, so you have nothing else of value!

That made me chuckle immensely, well done. :p

[Wolfshade]

the celt's aren't a 17th century invention. they were a collection of tribes that inhabited most of central Europe and are strongly associated with Britain because that was their last "stronghold" after Roman and steppe expansion into Europe. In actual fact it was the different names used by the Romans that has continuously perpetuated the idea that the tribes such as the Gauls and Britoni were separate societies. Modern archaeological evidence suggests that the Celtic tribes were far more organized and governed than the Roman historians originally gave them credit for.

Just as an aside, weren't the Celts one of the first "invaders" to Britian?

[Psychosplodge]

Exactly, and this why I don't understand why you can have nationalist British as we are such a hodge-podge of ethnicities

That's liberal bs the largest two peoples are anglo-saxons and and norse, even the normans that became the aristocracy are just norse that had settled northern france.

The roman invasion saw little significant immigration and only really saw economic activity, I would have imagined personally it would have been like a white westerner going to live in fallujah or kabul for the average roman civilian...
Apparently we are generally closer to swedes and danes than anywhere else. The smattering of others have no real effect on the overall make-up of the people, and this is further backed up by a distinct genetic difference between men on either side of the "welsh" border...
The displaced "celts" apparently fled to Brittany and parts of spain...

You only have to look at how they teach the slave trade, its all about inflicting English guilt, No mention is made of the rival tribes that actually sold each other into slavery, no mention is made of the north african pirates that emptied cornish towns of their populations overnight...


Because people are stupid. I still get massive lolz at the fact the BNP have to allow black people to join them now when they want to send them all back to their 'country of ethnic origin' or whatever.

The BNP are a joke, they're just a bunch of suited chavs.

The problem I have is if it's acceptable for the SNP to exsist, and plaid cymru, why isn't there an English equivalent? Considering I only had to pay tuition fees because of scottish MPs



Hush now.

Colonials should be seen and not heard.
This^

[Wolfshade]

I'm quite upset at being called liberal :(

I agree with you lots with the slave trade guilt thing, I heard an historian lecture on the subject and heis view was virtually every group/nation/race had slavery of some form unless they were hunter gathers in which case it was virtually unheard of.

In related news London is France's 6th largest city ;) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18234930

[Psychosplodge]

I would be too, it's ok it's not your fault, you're merely a product of the education establishment lol.

Yeah I heard that about london, it's quite funny, but what does it say about france?

[Wolfshade]

Not even the French want to live there?
That London offers better opportunities than equivalent large cities?
Eurotunnel was a bad move?
Not really sure.

[Psychosplodge]

Not even the French want to live there?
That London offers better opportunities than equivalent large cities?
Eurotunnel was a bad move?
Not really sure.
I'm going with one and three lol

[Wolfshade]

Although a couple I know moved to france and lived their for awhile.
They even played GW in french :eek:

[Psychosplodge]

Although a couple I know moved to france and lived their for awhile.
They even played GW in french :eek:
Apparently they have entire villages in france with only English people in them!:eek:

[Wolfshade]

They did it properly, the learnt the lingo, got involved in the community and all.
They came back to the uk though now.
Looking up rules in the french brb was an amusing joke that was played on me

[Psychosplodge]

Looking up rules in the french brb was an amusing joke that was played on me

How many times?:D

[Wolfshade]

I'm slow ok :p

[Wildeybeast]

In essence it is we have two words for things like cow and beef, sheep and mutton, pig and pork

The words for the animals were Saxon, once you put it on a plate the words are Norman. The Norman's didn't want to be associated with the Saxon commoners who had to farm the animals, their only involvement was eating it.


The problem I have is if it's acceptable for the SNP to exsist, and plaid cymru, why isn't there an English equivalent? Considering I only had to pay tuition fees because of scottish MPs

Becasue we are the oppressors apparently. We can't have independence from our own oppression. Or can we? :confused:


In related news London is France's 6th largest city ;) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18234930

Look, more pro-French propaganda! Wolfshade is traitor I tells you! The invasion has begun! They are hiding in plain sight, call the Witchfinder general! Coming over here, taking all our jobs, sleeping with all our women, chunter mumble groan.....

[Mr Mystery]

the celt's aren't a 17th century invention. they were a collection of tribes that inhabited most of central Europe and are strongly associated with Britain because that was their last "stronghold" after Roman and steppe expansion into Europe. In actual fact it was the different names used by the Romans that has continuously perpetuated the idea that the tribes such as the Gauls and Britoni were separate societies. Modern archaeological evidence suggests that the Celtic tribes were far more organized and governed than the Roman historians originally gave them credit for.

The term Celt is a 17th Century romanticisation of those peoples. There were a great many different cultures, and they all got lumped together.

QI taught me that.

QI. Just another reason we're better than the rest of the world! :p

[Psychosplodge]

Becasue we are the oppressors apparently. We can't have independence from our own oppression. Or can we? :confused:


Ah oppression, that's really what an English parliament is about, or at least preventing preventing MPs from constituencies unaffected by the legislation voting on said legislation....massively unreasonable...

[Renegade]

Ah oppression, that's really what an English parliament is about, or at least preventing preventing MPs from constituencies unaffected by the legislation voting on said legislation....massively unreasonable...

That sounds more like tyranny... I believe the punishment is execution and this has never been repealed.

"Let not England forget her precedence of teaching nations how to live" (http://www.wearetheenglish.com/quotes.html):p

[daboarder]

The term Celt is a 17th Century romanticisation of those peoples. There were a great many different cultures, and they all got lumped together.

QI taught me that.

QI. Just another reason we're better than the rest of the world! :p

Hate to say it mate, but QI is wrong, first use of the word Celts is in 517BC by the greek Hecataeus.

[Psychosplodge]

That sounds more like tyranny... I believe the punishment is execution and this has never been repealed.

"Let not England forget her precedence of teaching nations how to live" (http://www.wearetheenglish.com/quotes.html):p
The death penalty was abolished in 97 by the labour government, and at that time it only remained for treason and piracy.
That's quite amusing...

[Renegade]

The death penalty was abolished in 97 by the labour government, and at that time it only remained for treason and piracy.
That's quite amusing...

Actually, it only repealed the death penalty for those acts, it remains for High Treason (arguably). There is no law on tyranny, only president in common law, so the penalty cannot be repealed without it going to court.

[Psychosplodge]

No, I believe we were signed up to a european treaty that basicly abolished the death penalty across europe, they never actually abolished them individually, they were abolished by other means, so I would assume it would apply to High trreason as well.

found it,


Article 2 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union prohibits the use of capital punishment.

[moffom]

I'm pretty sure the problem was the French translator forgot about the point...

Just to sum up some french grammar:

each noun in French has to be feminine "une table" or masculine "un chien"; there's no real equivalent of inanimate case like it in the english language.

So in French the Black Legion is La Légion Noire and the Imperial Guard is La Garde Impériale.
It's no translator mistake as directives from GW are to leave such names in English so as not to spend too much money on copyrighting terms in French and to imprint the english term in player's mind

my two eurocents

[eldargal]

Not quite, celt is an entirely modern word derived from the ancient 'celtus' which was used by Hecataeus to describe people living in southern Gaul (modern France obviously). Assuming a cultural unity accross the classical world celts is problematic enough, applying it to later cultures that were on the very outermost fringes of the ancient celti is even more problematic. Todays 'celtic' identity in these places is regarded (by those outside the countries in question mostly, aside from a few brave souls) to be an entirely modern construct based on ancient roots.

Hate to say it mate, but QI is wrong, first use of the word Celts is in 517BC by the greek Hecataeus.

[Wildeybeast]

Not quite, celt is an entirely modern word derived from the ancient 'celtus' which was used by Hecataeus to describe people living in southern Gaul (modern France obviously). Assuming a cultural unity accross the classical world celts is problematic enough, applying it to later cultures that were on the very outermost fringes of the ancient celti is even more problematic. Todays 'celtic' identity in these places is regarded (by those outside the countries in question mostly, aside from a few brave souls) to be an entirely modern construct based on ancient roots.

True dat. We use the term Celt to a set of people who seem to have cultural links based entirely on the things they made. Since there is very little in written evidence from the 'Celtic' peoples across Europe and what there is is in different scripts, it is hard to say with any degree of accuracy how closely these people would have identified, or even communicated, with each other.


No, I believe we were signed up to a european treaty that basicly abolished the death penalty across europe, they never actually abolished them individually, they were abolished by other means, so I would assume it would apply to High trreason as well.

True dat. Whilst a few old laws still carried the death penalty as a punishment, it is not one that could be enacted since we. Removing it from the statue books was a pointless waste of time and money and there are the best part of a thousand years worth of redundant laws still on the books that we don't bother to get rid off.

"The inhabitants are extremely proud and overbearing. They care little for foreigners, but scoff and laugh at them".

(Describing visit to England by Frederick, Duke of Wurttemberg in 1592)

Lol, still true 420 years later. Remarkable how little some things change. I'm mean, all those silly foreigners still keep doing stuff to make us laugh, you'd have thought they'd have learned by now. ;)

[Wolfshade]

One of the bits of language I do think we are missing is a neutral pronoun like Sir or Madam, theoretically "Sir" can be used both for males, or where there is ambiguity of the gender that you are addressing, but it doesn't stop female recipients being upset by the "Dear Sirs,"