6th Ed : Warlord Traits

[Neelam]

Seems this has been missed , confirms some stuff about allies and the Warlord Trait .

"Finally Creed was my warlord , as he was the Imperial Guard HQ with the highest leadership, which meant I rolled on one of the warlord trait tables. I picked command traits, which gave nearby units a bonus" etc etc

[eldargal]

It's been discussed in the main 6th ed content thread, been buried by new posts though.:) Highest LD HQ becomes the armies Warlord, he chooses to roll on one of three tables to get an army wide buff. Very nifty idea.

[DrLove42]

There was me hoping that this thread would contain something new.

Damn

[Neelam]

Bah slow to the party , haven't tralled through that thread in the past couple of days.

Well I don't know if that WD picture has been uploaded yet - some interesting stuff in the picture

[Paul]

What about Warlords without an LD ability, like Armored Battlegroup command tanks?

EDIT:

I can't help but notice his LRBTs are squadroned.

Is he clinically retarded or do you all think squadrons will get a buff?

[Defenestratus]

Can't say that I'm happy about this since it seems that the unit in which my Autarch joins always seems to run away off the table edge.

[DrLove42]

What about Warlords without an LD ability, like Armored Battlegroup command tanks?

Wait for an FAQ

Better questions are if its 2 leaders, with the same save can you choose which one

Another one thats confirmed is that the HQ can become a scoring unit

[eldargal]

No LD, no chance of being a Warlord from what we know. It is the HQ choice with the highest LD, if you don't have a HQ with a LD attribute (is this really possible?) then no warlord.

[Wildeybeast]

That sounds like a great little idea, I love it! I really hope there are army specific ones, rather than just generic ones.

[Kyban]

No LD, no chance of being a Warlord from what we know. It is the HQ choice with the highest LD, if you don't have a HQ with a LD attribute (is this really possible?) then no warlord.
Space Wolves' Bjiorn (Spelling?) is a dread, I don't think he has a LD, I could be wrong though. It has to be pretty rare though and most vehicles are treated as LD10 whenever they need a LD value, I wonder if it'd count for warlord.

[Paul]

No LD, no chance of being a Warlord from what we know. It is the HQ choice with the highest LD, if you don't have a HQ with a LD attribute (is this really possible?) then no warlord.

Yep. My Armored Company gets sadder by the minute - first Hull Points, then no Warlord (not even General Grizmund or STEEL DOG ALPHA gets to be a warlord... sadface.

[Captainparty]

Yep. My Armored Company gets sadder by the minute - first Hull Points, then no Warlord (not even General Grizmund or STEEL DOG ALPHA gets to be a warlord... sadface.

Isn't the Armoured Battlegroup from Imperial Armour 1 ? Thats an old book that isn't even in print any more, i doubt they've even considered it.

[flekkzo]

Seems this has been missed , confirms some stuff about allies and the Warlord Trait .

"Finally Creed was my warlord , as he was the Imperial Guard HQ with the highest leadership, which meant I rolled on one of the warlord trait tables. I picked command traits, which gave nearby units a bonus" etc etc

I have generally been excited about 6th edition (I like new), but allies seems to be a less than great idea. Cherry picking the best out of IG and GK seems quite powerful to me. I sure am happy to not be a Tyranids player if they get no allies.

[Limey El'Jonson]

No LD, no chance of being a Warlord from what we know. It is the HQ choice with the highest LD, if you don't have a HQ with a LD attribute (is this really possible?) then no warlord.

The only HQ with no leadership that I can think of right now is the Damocles Rhino. But then again, it's an Imperial Armour unit. Can anyone think of another?

[Kawauso]

The only HQ with no leadership that I can think of right now is the Damocles Rhino. But then again, it's an Imperial Armour unit. Can anyone think of another?

Bjorn the Fell-Handed.

[Coyote81]

Badab war book 1 Chaplin Dreadnought.

[Kawauso]

Oh! Bray'arth Ashmantle.

Should have remembered him...I made a counts-as for my SM army.

[Frostclaw]

Kawauso, I was about to correct you on Bjorn, but you're actually right this time around. I think the last dex actually gave him Ld 10. Wonder if they'll have to backfit him via errata or if this was intentional.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

There's Chaplain Titus of the Howling Griffons, though to be honest he should have ALL THE LEADERSHIP.

[Wolfshade]

What happens if you have two or more peeps with the same Ld value?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Choose, I guess.

[Wolfshade]

Did you ever play Gorka Morka, at the end of each game you gained experiance and if you had two Nobz on the same Ld they would have a cage fight to determine who was Da Boss! I think something like that would be good O_O

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Can you imagine Necrons or Space Marines doing that? I, for one, cannot. :/

[Wolfshade]

No I can't either, but I could see it if you had two captains one a Spacepuppy the other a Dangel

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

The Dark Angel would obviously win.

[Wolfshade]

The classic knight v. barbarian

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Na, it's just that Space Wolves suck, so the Dark Angel would obviously win. :D

[Wolfshade]

That sounds like fighting talk...

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Exactamente!

[Wolfshade]

Exactamente!

Are you sure you don't mean Exacto?

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

v0v

[Wolfshade]

v0v

? :confused:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

It means "shrug". It looks like a stick man shrugging.

[Wolfshade]

Oh I see

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Also! No guess ranging! MY TACTICAL GENIUS IS UNLEASHED!

[Wolfshade]

:Quakes with fear:

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

Muhuhhahahaha!

[Wolfshade]

the destroyer is here!

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I don't take Destroyers in my armies, they die easily.

[Wolfshade]

Easy kill points FTL

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

People see them as a threat (legitimately) and aim all guns, they then fall over and don't get back up because everyone died.

[Wolfshade]

I've only played against them a few times back in previous editions and they would seem to pose a threat but ultimately either fail to hit targets or fail to wound them. Could just have been my mate miss using them.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

What you do with them is target elite units like Sternguard or Vanguard, on average you should wipe them out in a turn.
With Destroyers having I10 now however, they may be more worth it...

[Wolfshade]

I think he was trying to take out termies

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I love this rule, it is going to make battles so much more interesting!

[Neelam]

Because I feel guilty for people having false assumptions about the thread , I now present to you the Warlord table :

[robrodgers46]

I wonder how those traits stack with what some armies already have. For example, if I roll the one on the strategic table that allows you to subtract from your reserve roll, and I take an Astropath, do I get to subtract 2?

Although I like the concept of the Warlord traits, I wish they had not made them duplicate existing features. I also don't care for the 1 VP for killing the Warlord rule, since IG HQ's are not that hard to kill.

Will be interesting to see how these issues are dealt with in the book and the FAQ. Guess I will know on Saturday.

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[Tynskel]

Valkyrie for the command squad! Well, Chimera...

[ragnarcissist]

personal traits: on a 6 your warlord is a scoring unit EVEN IF HE IS A VEHICLE!!!! bjorn just got better!!

[Kawauso]

personal traits: on a 6 your warlord is a scoring unit EVEN IF HE IS A VEHICLE!!!! bjorn just got better!!

Well, he got a 1/6 chance of getting better, to be fair.

The warlord traits are neat, but hardly reliable. Making the most out of some of them is going to be a challenge for certain army builds.

[SotonShades]

Very interesting. I don't think they will be game changers, but I reckon it might change they way people use their HQs, even from game to game. Personnally I hope this adds a layer of narrative to my games.

[chizal]

my opponent got a 3 on the personal list with eldrad, outflanking 10 man wraithguard unit was a nasty surprise

[DarkLink]

I'm going to go with saying the strategic list is the best chart to roll on. The command list isn't particularly good as far as I can tell, and the personal traits are too situational and random to be particularly useful, but pretty much all of the strategic traits can be made useful in every game, especially if you design your list to incorporate the option for various reserves.

[ragnarcissist]

Well, he got a 1/6 chance of getting better, to be fair.

The warlord traits are neat, but hardly reliable. Making the most out of some of them is going to be a challenge for certain army builds.

i meant he got better because he can be a warlord, not necessarily that exact roll (which is good)