Teaser 2

[The Shadow King]

Teaser no 2 for 6th edition is up on the GW site. Now with psykers :)

[Kawauso]

I really hope 6th doesn't place too big an emphasis on psykers.

Otherwise non-psychic armies are going to feel the hurt. =/

[darklament]

they need to do something with psyker. I haven't played with a psyker in any of my armies (Blood Angels, Orks) since 2nd Edition. From 3rd Ed on they have felt more like an afterthought.

-Jefferson

[MarneusCalgar]

I like it, hehe!

Seems this will be PsykerSPAM edition...

[DrLove42]

OK...well we'll see in a few days

Personally I think its going to be hard to boost pyskers fairly. If they do 2/3 of my army will be screwed (DE and Tau) and the other third will be massivly reliant on a new mechanism i might not like.

It all smacks of someone playing too many Storm of Magic games and deciding to put it into 40k

[Wildeybeast]

Link here (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=2700146).


OK...well we'll see in a few days

Personally I think its going to be hard to boost pyskers fairly. If they do 2/3 of my army will be screwed (DE and Tau) and the other third will be massivly reliant on a new mechanism i might not like.

It all smacks of someone playing too many Storm of Magic games and deciding to put it into 40k

I'm fairly certain they won't just forget that some races can't use pyskers, that would seem like a massive balance issue too obvious to miss. What will happen is they will get some kind of anti-psyker stuff, like Dwarfs get anti-magic.

[eldargal]

Nice trailer, short, to the point and vaguely arousing.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with non-psyker armies, Dwarfs at least had some rules for magic resistance, Dark Eldar don't. Assuming they make an effort to compensate non-psyker races we couild be looking at some hefy errata.

[Levitas]

Right. As a DE player the teaser doesn't thrill me. GWs mind tricks are not working on this one. These are not the rules I was looking for...

[Wildeybeast]

Nice trailer, short, to the point and vaguely arousing.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with non-psyker armies, Dwarfs at least had some rules for magic resistance, Dark Eldar don't. Assuming they make an effort to compensate non-psyker races we couild be looking at some hefy errata.

I'm hoping for a Ravening Hordes style WD booklet if there are radical changes.

[MarneusCalgar]

Seems Speesh Mehreens will again have all the odds by their side... librarians, wolf priestes...

[eldargal]

I actually think psykers need a buff, they are a huge part of the background but almost an afterthought in gameplay terms. Apart from farseers and the odd librarian you just don't see many.

[Levitas]

I actually think psykers need a buff, they are a huge part of the background but almost an afterthought in gameplay terms. Apart from farseers and the odd librarian you just don't see many.

New Psyhic rules and a new ELdar dex could be an interesting. They could even mix up the existing ELdar dex some. Who knows. 2nd ed with its wacky psychic phase was a blast...sometimes.

[Wildcard]

Seems Speesh Mehreens will again have all the odds by their side... librarians, wolf priestes...

Those atleast got some usability even now.. What i am waiting for is to see even the slightest reason to take IG Primaris Psyker.

Oh how lovely it would be if a 70point HQ would rain death like squadron of russes >:)

[Kawauso]

I actually think psykers need a buff, they are a huge part of the background but almost an afterthought in gameplay terms. Apart from farseers and the odd librarian you just don't see many.

I dunno - how many psyker choices do most armies even have?

I see what you're saying about wanting to see them a bit more, but there just aren't that many psyker choices even available to begin with, really, even for the armies that have them. Except for GK.

[eldargal]

Well yes, but seven Marine books have librarians (BT don't), Orks get weirdboys, 'nids get zoanthropes, CSM sorcerors, Daemons get something and Eldar have farseers. Only tau and Dark Eldar have none, Necrons have sort-of psykers. 11/14 codices have psykers. You just don't see them bar the odd GK librarian and SW wolf priest. Oh and farseers obviosuly.

[Kawauso]

I understand that. But for a lot of armies psykers run in the HQ slot, which means there just isn't a lot of room for them to show up for various reasons.

It's rare that an army has access to something like the Psyker Battle Squads the IG can field.

I think it would be hard to boost psykers to the point where you'd see them more without seeing them so much that none of the non-psychic HQs ever make an appearance.

And if psychic powers are boosted to the point where there's a whole phase of the game (like the magic phase in WFB, as some people have put forth), I think that runs the risk of hurting armies that can't participate in that phase at all.

I'm not terribly worried - just a little concerned. I'm pretty confident 6th will turn out alright. :)

[eldargal]

They don't show up generally because they aren't worth taking.:p That needed to change and it seems it will.

[Kawauso]

I respectfully disagree on them not being worth taking in the current edition. :P

Looking forward to seeing what changes, at any rate.

[Levitas]

Will Grey Knights love the new cards?...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yy7PzQ1LFp8/T99xMyRf-pI/AAAAAAAAAsE/LdnO2gh_ku8/s1600/hammerhand_joke.jpg

[chipstar1]

An aside: SW have Rune Priests. Wolf Priests aren't psykers.

Tyranids also have SitW, which would be great anti-psyker.

[dwez]

Tyranids also have SitW, which would be great anti-psyker.

I think I've been 'fortunate' to use it about twice in two years. Most of the psychic abilities I've been facing are unleashed and effective well before SitW 12" range becomes an issue. That's just me though but I don't value it even if psykers become super-duper.

[oni]

I'm sure Space Wolves will love this.

[Wolfshade]

Yay 2nd ed reloaded

[bforber]

Trailer didn't do anything for me because I feel like psykers are a pretty big lynchpin in a lot of builds already (razorspam BA, Draigowing, GK in general, TH/SS spam with nullzone, JotWW, Eldar fortune spam, Catalyst nids, etc.) so, meh.

[Wolfshade]

Trailer didn't do anything for me because I feel like psykers are a pretty big lynchpin in a lot of builds already
You obviously never played 2nd ed, there you almost had to have a psyker to win, and you weren't limited to one or two, but as many as you liked becasue there was no FOC. By modern standards psykers are paltry.

[eldargal]

Yup, and compare to WFB. The average mage has access to two or three lores each with 7 spells, that makes 21 spells available to each mage. Some mages have access to more lores, liek Empire with 8, that makes for 56 spells. Contrast to the greatest psykers in the galaxy, the Eldar, with all of 9 psychic powers in total.

[Wolfshade]

Well this was it, 2nd ed they were major game changers unbalanced and over the top, though the random spells made them slightly more agreeable. 3rd came and stripped them right down to the stage when they almost disapeared, 4th they got a bit more of a boost, similiarly in 5th though there are some with quite powerful spells (JotW I'm look at you) so 6th where are you rated?

[Demonus]

where is the trailer located? Ive surfed the GW site for 10 min and seen nothing.

[Blusox69]

Long time reader, first time poster.

How early do we normally see the leaked White Dwarf pages? Seemed the ones for flyers were out a week or so prior to the usual Saturday release date.

[Wildeybeast]

where is the trailer located? Ive surfed the GW site for 10 min and seen nothing.

I linked it on page one, but because I'm nice, here it is again.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/blog.jsp?pid=2700146

[Eberk]

I like Psykers... if they are but one of the ways with which to kill your opponent or disrupt his plans.


I detest Psykers... if an army needs one to win.



I'm curious what 6th edition will be like, really looking forward to it..

[Demonus]

thank ya kindly. Im having a blonde moment :)

[Wildeybeast]

No worries, happens to the best of us! I spent half an hour at work yesterday looking round for something that was under a piece of paper on my desk. Sometimes the obvious stuff is the hardest to find.

[Rovient]

Strange that there's no teaser today. I imagined they'd have one every day up until Saturday.

[LordGrise]

God, I hope that the answer to the problem of Tau vs psyker isn't Space Marine allies...