Cadre
06-05-2012, 02:24 AM
Greetings,
I and a few others at my local club are having extreme difficulty with Necron Wraiths, especially in numbers.
I hesitate to call any unit broken, but again my armies in particular; both their resilience and capacities seem to be in extreme excess of their points cost.
Most units and armies in 40k, regardless of overall balance seem to have some form of hard counter. That is, a method of dealing with them that come out well ahead in efficiency in terms of both time (turns) and points invested. Even the "worst" Grey Knights lists are oddly weak to certain Tau builds, I find. I find a sort of comfort in that.
However, many armies lack anything approaching a hard counter to wraiths.
This would be fine, if it were possible to ignore them or tie them up. However, this has not worked well for me or others, locally.
When I think of them I cannot help but to think that it is wildly inefficient to throw anti-tank at them in the hopes of double-toughing them, with a few exceptions of armies that can acquire it cheaply and in volume. (Dakkadreads, for example) Good for those armies, but I don't have it.
I have also heard it said that TH-SS termies work well. I imagine they would. However, I don't play marines. They are oddly absent in our local area. (in volume, anyway)
What I see in a unit of 6 wraiths is 12 T4 3+ wounds. This seems to call out for volume. However, this seems to be unreliable due to wound allocation. The likelihood of remaining wraiths is high, and their trip across the table is typically not long enough for attrition to play a role.
In my DE, I can see a shattershard being extremely useful. Though not extremely reliable, what it kills, it kills. I also run a 20 man warrior squad with the duke. That's volume of fire, but typically not quite enough for this kind of heavy lifting.
In my Tau, I have a volume of fire deficiency. The list makes extreme sacrifices in terms of low-end volume for mid range quality and reliability. (missile pods are my go-to gun) Tau have no way of getting high strength in volume for anything approaching an efficient investment, and the speed of the wraiths makes it extremely difficult to avoid them in most deployments.
Anywho, what I am really asking for is what you people do when you come across wraiths. Am I just having bad luck, or are they as bad as my experience suggests?
I and a few others at my local club are having extreme difficulty with Necron Wraiths, especially in numbers.
I hesitate to call any unit broken, but again my armies in particular; both their resilience and capacities seem to be in extreme excess of their points cost.
Most units and armies in 40k, regardless of overall balance seem to have some form of hard counter. That is, a method of dealing with them that come out well ahead in efficiency in terms of both time (turns) and points invested. Even the "worst" Grey Knights lists are oddly weak to certain Tau builds, I find. I find a sort of comfort in that.
However, many armies lack anything approaching a hard counter to wraiths.
This would be fine, if it were possible to ignore them or tie them up. However, this has not worked well for me or others, locally.
When I think of them I cannot help but to think that it is wildly inefficient to throw anti-tank at them in the hopes of double-toughing them, with a few exceptions of armies that can acquire it cheaply and in volume. (Dakkadreads, for example) Good for those armies, but I don't have it.
I have also heard it said that TH-SS termies work well. I imagine they would. However, I don't play marines. They are oddly absent in our local area. (in volume, anyway)
What I see in a unit of 6 wraiths is 12 T4 3+ wounds. This seems to call out for volume. However, this seems to be unreliable due to wound allocation. The likelihood of remaining wraiths is high, and their trip across the table is typically not long enough for attrition to play a role.
In my DE, I can see a shattershard being extremely useful. Though not extremely reliable, what it kills, it kills. I also run a 20 man warrior squad with the duke. That's volume of fire, but typically not quite enough for this kind of heavy lifting.
In my Tau, I have a volume of fire deficiency. The list makes extreme sacrifices in terms of low-end volume for mid range quality and reliability. (missile pods are my go-to gun) Tau have no way of getting high strength in volume for anything approaching an efficient investment, and the speed of the wraiths makes it extremely difficult to avoid them in most deployments.
Anywho, what I am really asking for is what you people do when you come across wraiths. Am I just having bad luck, or are they as bad as my experience suggests?