This Character is an Aweful Lot Like....

[bfmusashi]

Ever notice a similarity between characters in 40k and elsewhere in a manner that made you like them even more? I do, all the time. Some make more sense than others, and they're all fun when you put the honorific 'Space' in front of the non-40k character's name.

Supreme Grand Master Keldor Draigo= Link from Legend of Zelda
He forged a sword with sacred fire, spends extended periods in a sacred realm corrupted by base emotion, and somehow stores all manner of wargear on his person at any given time. I'd bet if Ward had played Wind Waker Draigo would have somersaulted up and stabbed Mortarion in the forehead.

Commisar Yarrick= Walt Kowalski and William Munny (Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino and Unfogiven)
He is the crankiest old man who ever lived. He can not be scared and even if you kill him you'll likely still lose. He also wants you off his lawn.

Cypher= Vash the Stampede of Trigun
Always on the run, shooting everything around him, disaster follows him, and he hasn't been confirmed as killing anyone (super rare in 40k). Give him a pair of insurance agents trying to keep track of him/ declare him a living Act of God, and maybe a hidden robot hand that is also a gun and it's a beautiful thing.

Asdrubael Vect= Lord Havelock Vetinari of Discworld
A consumate planner smarter than everyone else around him with a brutal streak focused towards the smooth operation of his city. It helps that Ahnk-Morpork bears a striking resemblance to Commorragh.

Marneus Calgar= The Nature Boy Rick Flair
Calgar once punched an animated bronze statue made of lava so hard it exploded. He then went WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! In my personal Ultramar this is every interview conducted with Marneus Calgar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-LQH8N6Ug and that little lecture about how awesome his clothes are is the only sensible explanation for the Armour of Antilochus. I have a sneaking suspicion all Space Marines can be equated with a professional wrestler but that's for another time.

[L192837465]

Should be "awful". There's no "e" in the word.

Agree with everything else though? IDK TLDR haha

[bfmusashi]

My mistake. I'm usually on top of my spelling too.

[L192837465]

My mistake. I'm usually on top of my spelling too.

That's what I got from actually reading your dealy. And Draigo is silly. He's on par in terms of phsical and psychic power to a primarch. That's silly.

[Morgan Darkstar]

Yeah but chuck norris would still whoop his backside.

[bfmusashi]

That's what I got from actually reading your dealy. And Draigo is silly. He's on par in terms of phsical and psychic power to a primarch. That's silly.

Hell yeah he's silly. He's even sillier if you think of him as a pink anthropomorphic rabbit while he's in the warp.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Welll, it is hinted in the fluff that the prodigious power of the primarch's was born from a link to the warp each of them had. I like to think individuals such as Mephiston/Draigo are accidentally "activating" similar links.

Storytelling-wise, Draigo's still an incredibly poor piece of writing which trivializes daemonhunting, robbing grey knights of their badassitude.

[inquisitorsog]

Welll, it is hinted in the fluff that the prodigious power of the primarch's was born from a link to the warp each of them had. I like to think individuals such as Mephiston/Draigo are accidentally "activating" similar links.

Storytelling-wise, Draigo's still an incredibly poor piece of writing which trivializes daemonhunting, robbing grey knights of their badassitude.

You mean they had any bassitude left after the Dreadknight* and Storm Turkey joined their list?


edit: actually the Dreadknight is pretty cool: Once it's been converted to a Stompa or mega dredd.

[Dyrnwyn]

Supreme Grand Master Keldor Draigo= Link from Legend of Zelda
He forged a sword with sacred fire, spends extended periods in a sacred realm corrupted by base emotion, and somehow stores all manner of wargear on his person at any given time. I'd bet if Ward had played Wind Waker Draigo would have somersaulted up and stabbed Mortarion in the forehead.

The comparison that I've heard is that Draigo is actually Samurai Jack. A daemon prince tears open a portal and hurls him into the Warp, where he wanders endlessly, searching for a way home, and slaying demons and monsters along the way.

[L192837465]

The comparison that I've heard is that Draigo is actually Samurai Jack. A daemon prince tears open a portal and hurls him into the Warp, where he wanders endlessly, searching for a way home, and slaying demons and monsters along the way.

The problem with that, is that Samurai Jack is actually awesome, whereas Draigo is just stupid and poor writing to try and make a character in the 40k universe way more badass than any other alive.

[Dyrnwyn]

The problem with that, is that Samurai Jack is actually awesome, whereas Draigo is just stupid and poor writing to try and make a character in the 40k universe way more badass than any other alive.

He basically is Samurai Jack as far as what has happened to him and the results of his trek to find a way home on his enemies. The difference in acceptance is that Jack is a taciturn hero who tries his best to do the right thing, and is a fish out of water in the future. Draigo has zero characterization as we get all info on him from his word-of-god codex entry, and he's not a fish out of water - he might be in enemy territory but fighting daemons and telling Chaos to GTFO is what Grey Knights do.

Actually the part that confused me is that I went back and re-read his entry after posting that. He breaks his sword right before killing the daemon that flings him into the Warp. Why is he still equipped with the Titansword in his wargear?

[bfmusashi]

Draigo is a silly thing. You can't call him a character so much as a prop piece. Like all the new toys he does not have a story so much as a background and Draigo's is particularly busy. What should be six or more pages of nigh legendary trials is crammed into less than two pages and heavily backloaded.
But, if one really wanted to hate him they could take solace in the Titansword telling him he has an 85% chance of completing simple tasks every five minutes.

[bfmusashi]

He basically is Samurai Jack as far as what has happened to him and the results of his trek to find a way home on his enemies. The difference in acceptance is that Jack is a taciturn hero who tries his best to do the right thing, and is a fish out of water in the future. Draigo has zero characterization as we get all info on him from his word-of-god codex entry, and he's not a fish out of water - he might be in enemy territory but fighting daemons and telling Chaos to GTFO is what Grey Knights do.

Actually the part that confused me is that I went back and re-read his entry after posting that. He breaks his sword right before killing the daemon that flings him into the Warp. Why is he still equipped with the Titansword in his wargear?

The Titansword is forged from the axe of a bloodthirster (which is also a bloodthirster). He rocked Kar'Voth in unarmed combat atop a waterfall of blood.
Samurai Jack's sword was forged by Vishnu, Odin, and Ra to kill one of the last remnants of malicious darkness.
Jack crushed on Aku once, there is no evidence Draigo has made out with anyone.

[The AKH]

Actually the part that confused me is that I went back and re-read his entry after posting that. He breaks his sword right before killing the daemon that flings him into the Warp. Why is he still equipped with the Titansword in his wargear?

The easy explanation for that is that the Codex entry for Draigo is a "snapshot" of him at a point before he gets cast into the Warp and starts mucking about with everything... in the same way that you can have Tycho leading your Blood Angels, despite him being canonically dead.

[eldargal]

I'm not sure Vect is that much like Vetinari to be honest, in Path of the Renegade he is much more a brutal tyrant than Vetinari is ever depicted.

[Houghten]

edit: actually the Dreadknight is pretty cool: Once it's been converted to a Stompa or mega dredd.
A mega-dread I could believe, but it's way, way too small to be a Stompa.


The easy explanation for that is that the Codex entry for Draigo is a "snapshot" of him at a point before he gets cast into the Warp and starts mucking about with everything... in the same way that you can have Tycho leading your Blood Angels, despite him being canonically dead.
The other easy explanation is that he reforged it. Quoth the Ward, "With cleansing fire he drove daemonic taint from the beast's great axe, and used the molten remains to reforge his sword."

[bfmusashi]

I'm not sure Vect is that much like Vetinari to be honest, in Path of the Renegade he is much more a brutal tyrant than Vetinary is ever depicted.

After reading your comments on the book I am interested in reading it.

[phoenix01]

Yeah but chuck norris would still whoop his backside.

That's because Chuck Norris is the Emperor of Mankind.

[mikethefish]

Commisar Yarrick= Walt Kowalski and William Munny (Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino and Unfogiven)
He is the crankiest old man who ever lived. He can not be scared and even if you kill him you'll likely still lose. He also wants you off his lawn.


I can see how you might draw that comparison - quite amusing! But for me, Commissar Yarrick will always remind me of the literary character for which he was inspired by - Captain Ahab.

Yarrick - the aging, mutilated avenger (Ahab) forever pursuing his version of Moby Dick (Ghazkull) across the galaxy is one of the cooler stories of the 40k universe. Unlike his literary inspiration, I feel that Yarrick deserves to take out his foe in the end, however ;)

[Demonus]

Should be "awful". There's no "e" in the word.

Agree with everything else though? IDK TLDR haha

Perhaps he is full of awe...

[bfmusashi]

I admit, Ahab makes more sense. Yarrick has a skeleton of a tiny greenskin on his gun and a tank called the Fortress of Arrogance so he's certainly more Ahab. I think his stint at gardening with his power klaw blinded me to it :)

[scadugenga]

You forgot some of the more blatant rip offs:

Sly Marbo. Ok, if this really needs to be explained--go rent a little movie called "First Blood."

Creed. I've always thought of Creed as Patton with a slightly more affable nature. Though Cruddace never mentioned if Creed's matched pistols had ivory handles or not--because we all know that only a New Orleans pimp would have pearl handles...

[Kaiserdean]

There used to be a Forge World tank commander that is Oddball from Kelly's Heroes. He even had a loudspeaker for his tank...
The basic design of the Space Marines and power armor came from the "Starship Troopers" novel.
The Van Saar are Freemen from Dune
The Delaque are from Dark City

[Uncle Nutsy]

Duke Sliscus kind of reminds me of Afro Samurai

[Houghten]

The basic design of the Space Marines and power armor came from the "Starship Troopers" novel.
I, wait, what? Have you read the Starship Troopers novel? Though it's generally credited with powered armour suits in general, it's a lot closer to Tau Battlesuits than to the genehanced Astartes.

[Kaiserdean]

I, wait, what? Have you read the Starship Troopers novel? Though it's generally credited with powered armour suits in general, it's a lot closer to Tau Battlesuits than to the genehanced Astartes.

Maybe it was the influence of an old book cover, but I saw the SS Troopers as marines.

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I guess I saw them as marines and termies, and the bigger suits as dreads.

[bfmusashi]

In Kaiserdean's defense, the first time I showed my dad a beaky he thought it was from Starship Troopers.
On a side note, Mephiston once dug himself out from under a building and fought a bunch of orks with his bare hands... naked. I know I've heard of this before (probably from Heracles) but can't place it.

[Paul]

There used to be a Forge World tank commander that is Oddball from Kelly's Heroes. He even had a loudspeaker for his tank...
The basic design of the Space Marines and power armor came from the "Starship Troopers" novel.
The Van Saar are Freemen from Dune
The Delaque are from Dark City


Oddball still exists - Obadiah Sheefer, in IAv1 or in the IAv1 update.

I use him for my 1st Coy. Commander.