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RFHolloway
03-26-2012, 05:20 AM
Which takes precidence, the rule that heavy weapons cannot be fired if the unit has moved, or the rule that a vehcule may fire a particular number of weapons.

e.g. a dreadnaught with a single heavy weapon - can it fire if it has moved?

Cereal n' Milk
03-26-2012, 05:55 AM
The rule that a vehicle may fire a particular number of weapons applies. This is because the rules for heavy weapons on vehicles are separate from the rules for heavy weapons on infantry.

In this case, the dreadnought would be able to fire its heavy weapon.

Wildcard
03-26-2012, 06:02 AM
A dreadnought can always fire its weapons as a vehicle that stayed stationary, so basically you can fire all your weapons always (unless you got ordnance weapon, like defilers batlle cannon, then you can fire all the other weapons or the battlecannon)

Heavy weapon: You can fire the number of heavy weapons based on your movement (kinda like your vehicles are relentless) So no, moving doesn't effect wether or not you can fire atleast single heavy weapon!

There are some special rules on different races for these but basically:
- if the weapon is ordnance: Fire it, and no other weapon
- if the weapon is ordnance barrage: fire it and no other weapon, also you cannot move
- if the weapon is heavy / assault / rapid fire, with strenght more than 4 (so 5+): fire as many as your movement and vehicle type allows
- if the weapon is str4 or less: you can always fire it, if you are allowed to fire atleast single heavy / assault / rapid fire weapon (not ordnance or ordnance barrage tho)

I think this is pretty much it, ofc there is a possibility that i have forgotten something, in which case, someone will surely point that out :D

RFHolloway
03-26-2012, 06:15 AM
thanks

Wolfshade
03-26-2012, 06:49 AM
However if it is a transport, embarked infantry are still subject to the move fire rules, so a guardsman couldn't fire a missile launcher from a moving chimera etc.

Sam
03-26-2012, 03:41 PM
- if the weapon is ordnance barrage: fire it and no other weapon, also you cannot move


Actually, the standard rules for ordnance barrage are that if the vehicle moves it may not fire indirectly. Essentially, if a vehicle fires an ordnance barrage weapon after moving, it acts like a regular ordnance weapon.

Wolfshade
03-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Actually, the standard rules for ordnance barrage are that if the vehicle moves it may not fire indirectly. Essentially, if a vehicle fires an ordnance barrage weapon after moving, it acts like a regular ordnance weapon.
I didn't realise that, or that Ordinance barrages force the pinning test at -1 Ld

Encarmine
03-26-2012, 04:33 PM
dreadnoughts can fire all weapons when they move, because they are walkers

Wildcard
03-26-2012, 04:59 PM
Essentially, if a vehicle fires an ordnance barrage weapon after moving, it acts like a regular ordnance weapon.

At some cases you cant fire ordnance barrage weapon as ordnance-only. However, this is specially stated in the weapons description then.

Tynskel
03-26-2012, 05:30 PM
in other words...

read the rules...

xxvaderxx
03-27-2012, 04:59 PM
in other words...

read the rules...

No need to be impolite.

SeattleDV8
03-27-2012, 06:53 PM
For Tynskel, that was polite, heh

Also very good advice.

Denzark
03-28-2012, 01:11 AM
Haha snarky tynskel.

Wildcard
03-28-2012, 03:06 AM
For Tynskel, that was polite, heh

Yeah, i actually thought is everything alright, since he suddenly got so emotional..