RedScorpionsGirl
09-18-2009, 11:45 PM
I know this is going to be a bit on the touchy side, but I would like to give a chance to others to voice their opinions without directly pointing fingers at individual persons..
What do you think it takes to call work "Pro/Master" painted?
If you get a chance to check through ebay, you will see more and more painted models labeled as "Pro", "Master Painted" and more. Sometimes, they are really worthy of this, and sometimes, when you click to check it out, you wonder if the modeller had any idea about the game, or if they just pieced it together, without actually thinking of the gaming impact. While I know that a lot of people simply say that if you sell a model, you can call yourself professional because people have bought you work, but come on. This isn't exactly what I mean.. One piece bought does not a professional make...
It might look pretty, interesting, or cool, but if you are selling it for gaming, and not just collecting, here are a few questions that I wonder if they consider:
- Can the model in question be legally used?
- Would this combination make sense at all?
- Does this model make sense at all (ie. A winged Justicar, a winged Black Templar Marshal..etc)
- Can this model be legally fielded? (While it always says that a model with a large number of weapons is feaible as long as you model it, do you really think that the melta/lightning claw/stormbolter/sword, and don't forget the sword in the sheath on the hip too...would work?) Or another example, a devestator squad sergant with a heavy weapon. (easy fix, just a regular guy in the squad instead of the sgt. But why label it right?)
- Does the title match the model. For example, if it is is titled eldar, is it an eldar?
- Say if it is a marine, for example. If it is listed as an Imperial Fist, is it yellow? Or if it is a Crimson Fist, is it painted as such?
- Color Combination..Does it hurt your eyes? Even if it's painted well, bad color choices can ruin a model...Did they make good use of complimentary colors?
- Quality...How would you rate this model on a scale of 1-10, regardless of how well you can paint, overall, how well does it capture what the artist intended on? Will it fit in with your army?
- Basing. Is the model based for gaming or collecting? If it is based for gaming, is it based correctly? If not, how hard is it to rebase? Is the seller willing to base it for game play? If you have a power armour model that is based on a terminator base, while you can base the model on a larger and not smaller base for play...Do you really want your character to be on the wrong size base?
- Basing 2. How does it look? Will the basing fit in with what you've already done? Is it easy to replicate if you haven't based yet? Will they sell the model on an unfinished base so you can match your army? Are they willing to base it to match your army (mind you these questions are asking of reasonable basing, not asking if the seller will go out and buy a special forgeworld base or such to match your army.. Common sense on this one. If you have a simple flocked/dirt base...it's not hard to replicate..etc)
I know there's a lot more than just these question to ask, so what else would you ask/ look for?
So, is it better to say well painted, or professionally painted? It seems as though it would be better to say well painted, and accept compliments, than Professionally painted and deal with a lot of criticism because it doesn't live up to that particular person's definition of professionally painted?
I'm really curious how everyone looks at this..Thx for responding!
What do you think it takes to call work "Pro/Master" painted?
If you get a chance to check through ebay, you will see more and more painted models labeled as "Pro", "Master Painted" and more. Sometimes, they are really worthy of this, and sometimes, when you click to check it out, you wonder if the modeller had any idea about the game, or if they just pieced it together, without actually thinking of the gaming impact. While I know that a lot of people simply say that if you sell a model, you can call yourself professional because people have bought you work, but come on. This isn't exactly what I mean.. One piece bought does not a professional make...
It might look pretty, interesting, or cool, but if you are selling it for gaming, and not just collecting, here are a few questions that I wonder if they consider:
- Can the model in question be legally used?
- Would this combination make sense at all?
- Does this model make sense at all (ie. A winged Justicar, a winged Black Templar Marshal..etc)
- Can this model be legally fielded? (While it always says that a model with a large number of weapons is feaible as long as you model it, do you really think that the melta/lightning claw/stormbolter/sword, and don't forget the sword in the sheath on the hip too...would work?) Or another example, a devestator squad sergant with a heavy weapon. (easy fix, just a regular guy in the squad instead of the sgt. But why label it right?)
- Does the title match the model. For example, if it is is titled eldar, is it an eldar?
- Say if it is a marine, for example. If it is listed as an Imperial Fist, is it yellow? Or if it is a Crimson Fist, is it painted as such?
- Color Combination..Does it hurt your eyes? Even if it's painted well, bad color choices can ruin a model...Did they make good use of complimentary colors?
- Quality...How would you rate this model on a scale of 1-10, regardless of how well you can paint, overall, how well does it capture what the artist intended on? Will it fit in with your army?
- Basing. Is the model based for gaming or collecting? If it is based for gaming, is it based correctly? If not, how hard is it to rebase? Is the seller willing to base it for game play? If you have a power armour model that is based on a terminator base, while you can base the model on a larger and not smaller base for play...Do you really want your character to be on the wrong size base?
- Basing 2. How does it look? Will the basing fit in with what you've already done? Is it easy to replicate if you haven't based yet? Will they sell the model on an unfinished base so you can match your army? Are they willing to base it to match your army (mind you these questions are asking of reasonable basing, not asking if the seller will go out and buy a special forgeworld base or such to match your army.. Common sense on this one. If you have a simple flocked/dirt base...it's not hard to replicate..etc)
I know there's a lot more than just these question to ask, so what else would you ask/ look for?
So, is it better to say well painted, or professionally painted? It seems as though it would be better to say well painted, and accept compliments, than Professionally painted and deal with a lot of criticism because it doesn't live up to that particular person's definition of professionally painted?
I'm really curious how everyone looks at this..Thx for responding!