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Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 10:56 PM
I need to get something off my chest: have you SEEN how much it costs to field an over-powered Draigowing Paladin-spam army?! Have you seen how it breaks the game?! That army is SO broken! This hobby is SO expensive!

Please discuss...

Bean
03-15-2012, 11:12 PM
I am, again, amused.

It's probably worth pointing out, though, that Draigowing is one of the cheapest armies you can buy. Three boxes of terminators, Draigo, and two Dreadnaughts is a 1500 point list. That's, what, 270-something, MSRP?

Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 11:16 PM
Arrrghggh! I'm also so mad about finecast! /gnashes teeth

Bean
03-15-2012, 11:17 PM
I don't use it. All of the models in both of my armies are plastic. Go plastic.

Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 11:20 PM
It's probably worth pointing out, though, that Draigowing is one of the cheapest armies you can buy. Three boxes of terminators, Draigo, and two Dreadnaughts is a 1500 point list. That's, what, 270-something, MSRP?

$270 American or 270 British Sterling? Either way, do you know what it costs to make Draigowing?!! Do you?!!! Well, neither do I! So I'll make it up: it costs a DOLLAR and they want us to spend $300 on it! And then it's made out of resin and plastic instead of metal and plastic!!!! Arrrgghghghgh!!!!

Bean
03-15-2012, 11:24 PM
One dollar.

Actually, I made my Draigo out of a plastic GKT. So, even there, no resin.

=)

Oh, and dollars. I have no idea what prices are like in Ye Olde Englande.

Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 11:29 PM
I'm gonna make one out of finecast bits, chapterhouse studio after market bits, and the tears of Sisters players who TOTALLY got screwed by that White Dwarf codex!

PS Wouldn't You agree that White Dwarf used to be better and that Matt Ward has ruined all of the armies he writes books for?!

Bean
03-15-2012, 11:32 PM
Did he come over to your house and pee on yours, too? Man, you'd think that guy'd be toilet trained by now...

That said, I don't think the tears of Sisters players are worth much--they are, after all, so very common.

Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 11:36 PM
I am SO mad about SO many aspects of this hobby! It's all I can do to keep playing at least fortnightly and spend THOUSANDS of dollars on it a year! Grrrrr! Copeland smash!!!

Chris Copeland
03-15-2012, 11:43 PM
Y'know what else ticks me off? Comp Scores! How dare anyone mix in anything other than strategy and winning in tournaments devoted to this multi-faceted hobby!!! I'm not entering a Golden Demon contest, I'm entering a wargame tournament!!!

Emerald Rose Widow
03-16-2012, 12:19 AM
-giggles- angry troll is angry -falls on the floor in a fit of giggles-

Brettila
03-16-2012, 12:36 AM
Y'know what else ticks me off? Comp Scores! How dare anyone mix in anything other than strategy and winning in tournaments devoted to this multi-faceted hobby!!! I'm not entering a Golden Demon contest, I'm entering a wargame tournament!!!
I think someone needs to take their medicine... Unfortunately, your argument would be better if Draigowing were not the least expensive 40K army to build. Also, you said it yourself, "...this multi-faceted hobby..." It is a hobby, complete with modeling and painting. 40K is NOT a tournament-centered competition event. If it were your minis would come pre-painted along with ready-to-play game mats a la 'clik' games.

Bean
03-16-2012, 12:47 AM
I think someone needs to take their medicine... Unfortunately, your argument would be better if Draigowing were not the least expensive 40K army to build. Also, you said it yourself, "...this multi-faceted hobby..." It is a hobby, complete with modeling and painting. 40K is NOT a tournament-centered competition event. If it were your minis would come pre-painted along with ready-to-play game mats a la 'clik' games.

I know it doesn't come with all the inflection of the spoken word, but I still would have thought that Copeland's sarcasm was unmistakable...

Corvus-Master-of-The-4th
03-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Lmao, I love how the actual haters havent turned up :')

Mr.Pickelz
03-16-2012, 01:20 AM
Now when you say "Draigowing" do you mean a fluffy draigowing list or a competitive list that min/maxes unit's weaknesses/strengths?
My 2,000 point "Draigowing"
HQ:
1x Draigo
1x Liberian
Troops:
2x (10x) Paladins
Heavy:
1x Dreadknight

People will call it cheesy, distasteful and feel an overall hatred towards the mentioning of this list till they fight me, and then see the obvious weaknesses of such an army list, with 2 to 3 units to shoot/assault on the board, this army is quickly overran and horrifically outgunned. That said my win ratio is around 46% with this list and i've thrown down this list against every book except Sisters of Battle.

Brettila
03-16-2012, 01:21 AM
Well, if that were the case, why bother starting the thread? As an educator, it sounded like one of an endless string of youthful rants that I endure. So sorry I missed the...................point?

Bean
03-16-2012, 01:38 AM
Well, if that were the case, why bother starting the thread? As an educator, it sounded like one of an endless string of youthful rants that I endure. So sorry I missed the...................point?

Humor, I think. It's not exactly art, perhaps, but I was amused.

imperialsavant
03-16-2012, 04:26 AM
:mad: Dont care what the new GKs Cost as I was just so "Pd" off with what they did to my beloved GKs
( God they are just Warp spawn now) that I sold ALL my Grey Knights models in disgust & made a very nice amount for my trouble.

Just terrified what they will do to my Black Templars. Dont think they know what to do with them actually as they just seem to be adding all this Psychic stuff to all Armies & they know BTs HATE Psychers!:eek:

Yriel_The_Angelic
03-16-2012, 04:54 AM
FINALLY! A rage thread! Ummm *stomps on kitten/ punts dog* CAN YOU BELIEVE AIRLINE FOOD! I MEAN....umm...YEA! *points finger*

Cavscout
03-16-2012, 05:50 AM
You left out baby seal clubbing, global warming, and world hunger. Are you(OP) just bored or is this specifiic trolling?

Suffokate
03-16-2012, 05:51 AM
FINALLY! A rage thread! Ummm *stomps on kitten/ punts dog* CAN YOU BELIEVE AIRLINE FOOD! I MEAN....umm...YEA! *points finger*

They took our jobs!

DAPHEEL
03-16-2012, 06:00 AM
Dey Tukker jerbs!

Do you know what else makes me angry - people who take drugs. The other day my mate spent £60.00 on some drugs, and then the police stopped him, and, just took them, just like that, and what's even worse IS IT'S 100% LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO IT!. This world's going to hell in a hand basket.

Necron2.0
03-16-2012, 07:14 AM
You left out baby seal clubbing ....

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/076/a/c/th_stop_clubbing_by_necron2_0-d4t0f5x.gif

Sinistermind
03-16-2012, 07:37 AM
i play grey knights but i also play tau, and i have played both for a while before the latest codex, so im not taking $%&* on codex creep, i could start a rant on how longfangs are annoying as hell but i wont :D

Bean
03-16-2012, 09:02 AM
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/076/a/c/th_stop_clubbing_by_necron2_0-d4t0f5x.gif



Well, Necron, for all that your taste in that other thread was questionable, this is undeniably awesome. Kudos. =)

wittdooley
03-16-2012, 10:06 AM
Apparently there are people in the real world, and not just Sheldon Cooper, that need this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZxwhDCu64WQ/S0Y6AjzlwVI/AAAAAAAAAFc/XpNrKrFj9Rw/s320/sarcasm+sign.jpg

DarkLink
03-16-2012, 12:20 PM
Well, Necron, for all that your taste in that other thread was questionable, this is undeniably awesome. Kudos. =)

It's for all the people who don't understand the difference between "stop clubbing baby seals" and "stop clubbing, baby seals".

Bean
03-16-2012, 01:36 PM
It's for all the people who don't understand the difference between "stop clubbing baby seals" and "stop clubbing, baby seals".

Yeah, I got that.

bethor
03-16-2012, 01:49 PM
This thread is just what i needed at 2:30 on a friday afternoon.:)

DarkLink
03-16-2012, 01:53 PM
It's like another grammar motivational poster I saw that said:


"I'd rather be pissed off, then pissed on."

When the difference between then and than is huge.

Drunkencorgimaster
03-16-2012, 10:29 PM
They took our jobs!

Dey took er djobs!!!!