It Has Been Too Long Since We've Talked About This: GW Has High Prices!

[Chris Copeland]

Man, I can't believe we've gone this long and no one has mentioned this: this hobby is EXPENSIVE! Yowza! GW prices are SO high... wait... what? There is? We have?

That recently? No way!

I'm sorry... it all starts to run together after a while... carry on...

[Bean]

Man, I can't believe we've gone this long and no one has mentioned this: this hobby is EXPENSIVE! Yowza! GW prices are SO high... wait... what? There is? We have?

That recently? No way!

I'm sorry... it all starts to run together after a while... carry on...

*Slow clap*

[Chris Copeland]

I'm on a roll tonight! :)

[helvexis]

blood knights for $165 aus ... 1 box that is

can we stay away from these topics they depress me

[Wolfshade]

I'm on a roll tonight! :)
Are you sure that shouldn't be I'm on a troll tonight!?

[lobster-overlord]

Are you sure that shouldn't be I'm on a troll tonight!?

Seriously!

I believe there is a reason why we stay away from those topics that are painfully obvious.

[phoenix01]

Seriously!

I believe there is a reason why we stay away from those topics that are painfully obvious.

Have you realized how freakin' expensive...

...cars are these days? And don't get me started on gasoline.

[Hive Mind]

And what's the deal with airline peanuts?

[Wolfshade]

Have you realized how freakin' expensive...

...cars are these days? And don't get me started on gasoline.

Don't get me started on petrol prices, they are nothing compared to UK prices, that's duty charges way beyond GW control

[Tzeentch_Guard]

http://i.qkme.me/3oca35.jpg

[Chris Copeland]

Tzeentch, that is AWESOME!!!

[Tzeentch_Guard]

Yeah, it's amazing what you can come up with when you are bored on a slow Friday at work. :D Also, I applaude your Trolliness. Well done, sir.

[Chris Copeland]

Also, I applaude your Trolliness. Well done, sir. Thank you... thank you. However, it begs the question: is it really trolling if it is clearly ironical? Part of me thinks not. The other part of me stands back with his mouth agape watching the the People of the Interwebz take threads like this seriously! However did we all convey meaning before the advent of emoticons?
Cheers! Copeland

[Tzeentch_Guard]

Thank you... thank you. However, it begs the question: is it really trolling if it is clearly ironical? Part of me thinks not. The other part of me stands back with his mouth agape watching the the People of the Interwebz take threads like this seriously! However did we all convey meaning before the advent of emoticons?
Cheers! Copeland

That's true, I don't know that it is trolling, but it is funny all the same. I have to laugh at GW's high prices, if only to keep from crying.

[Hive Mind]

Ironical isn't a word. Ironic, you mean ironic.

/Grammar National Socialist

[Chris Copeland]

Ironical isn't a word. Ironic, you mean ironic.

/Grammar National Socialist

Sorry, Hive: ironical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ironical) IS a word. It is an adjective that means "pertaining to, of the nature of, exhibiting, or characterized by irony or mockery." Example: I was being ironical when I suggested to GW was evil. I was using irony.

Cheers and good gaming to ya! Copeland

PS If you have WAY too much time on your hands you can look into the usage of ironic versus ironical with a quick Google search or by looking in an old fashioned paper-bound dictionary (does anyone actually own those anymore?). You can also click here (http://english-usage-mcallister.blogspot.com/2006/06/ironic-vs-ironical.html) for a fairly pithy explanation.

Wow. Clearly I have too much time on my hands. :o

[Hive Mind]

Until it's in the OED, it's not a word.

[Chris Copeland]

Until it's in the OED, it's not a word.

Hive, I would be beyond surprised if ironical isn't listed in the Oxford English Dictionary. It is the older of the two forms (ironical & ironic) and sounds odd to the modern ear because, of the two, the latter is what gets broadly used these days. As a matter of fact, "ironical" probably sounds less odd to the English than it does to Americans because it still enjoys some usage there and nearly none here in the States.

I wish that I had a copy of the OED on hand. We could put this divisive debate to rest and finally bring peace to BoLS! :P

"How ironical that it is by means of speech that man can degrade himself below the level of dumb creation -- for a chatterbox is truly of a lower category than a dumb creature." ~ Soren Kierkegaard (May 05, 1813 - November 11, 1855)

[Wildeybeast]

I was about to leap to Hive's defence, but I checked and it is in fact in the OED, listed as a derivative of ironic. You learn something new every day. http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ironic?q=ironical#ironic__3

Debate over.

PS. Extra points to copeland for using Kierkegaard as his example!

[Hive Mind]

I've had this argument before with my father-in-law. It's not in the print version so it's not a word.

[Wildeybeast]

That's a somewhat silly argument. The print version does not contain every word in the english language, merely the most commonly used ones. It is not a commonly used word, hence why it doesn't warrant it's own entry in the online version, but it is still a word as it features in the OED database of words. And besides, which print version are you talking about? Every new edition adds and removes words depending on their usage by the general public. Just becasue a word is no longer in common usage does not mean it is no longer a word.

[Hive Mind]

The current edition. Only the Concise edition omits words, by the way.

Ironical is not in the current, full, print edition.

[Wildeybeast]

Well, the extract below probably explains why.

"The dictionary content in ODO focuses on current English and includes modern meanings and uses of words. Where words have more than one meaning, the most important and common meanings in modern English are given first, and less common and more specialist or technical uses are listed below. The OED, on the other hand, is a historical dictionary and it forms a record of all the core words and meanings in English over more than 1,000 years, from Old English to the present day, and including many obsolete and historical terms. Meanings are ordered chronologically in the OED, according to when they were first recorded in English, so that senses with the earliest evidence of usage appear first and more recent senses appear further down the entry – like a ‘family tree’ for each word."

http://www.oed.com/page/oedodo/The+OED+and+Oxford+Dictionaries

So, in other words, the online edition is the more UTD one as it includes all current words, one of which is ironical. If you wnat to stick to your arbitary standard that only things in the print edition are words, then fair enough, but ironical is a word in an Oxford dictionary and thus it's usage can be justified on a basis many people will accept. You are free not to accept that justification, but I suspect you will be in the minority