'Stealers and Monsters @2k

[theirkin]

Hey guys. I'm new to the BoLS Lounge and am also getting ready to try some new things in my hobby. So in keeping with that idea, let me know what you think of this army:

Swarmlord w/ 3 Tyrant Guard
3 Hive Guard
26 Genestealers and 3 Broodlords w/ adrenal glads, BL's have scything talons (divided into 3 squads)
2 Tyrranofexes w/ Rupture Cannons

Comes out to a few points shy of 2k. What do you guys think? What would you change without adding zoanthropes or gaunts? Critiques on the list as well as suggestions for changes are more than welcome. Thanks in advance guys.

Joe

[Tynskel]

toxin sacs on genestealers: re-roll to wound = another chance to possibly get rends!

[newtoncain]

Dump the fexes, get some gaunts or rippers for a meat shield screen in front of your HG. My take 3 more HG, Ygmarl (5-6) work well with out flank GS lists. Or just take more GS.:eek:

[theirkin]

Tynskel, why would toxin sacks give them a reroll? Toxin sacks just mean they always would on a 4+, doesn't it?

newtoncain: I'm trying to stay away from gaunts for this list. I would love to fit some ygmarl in the list, but I can't find the points unless I were to drop the tyranofexes. My hesitation in doing that is I would then have no answer to high AV, and really no long ranged armor killers (hive guard are mid-ranged in my book). Would you still recommend dropping them and picking up more hive guard?

Joe

[PRoeske]

With toxin sacs: always wound on a 4+, unless you would already do so (or even bether); then you still wound on 4+, but with re-rolls.

Example:
Normal: S3 vs T5 = 6+
Sacs: S3 vs T5 = 4+

Normal: S4 vs T4 = 4+
Sacs: S4(+) vs T4 = 4+, with reroll

Grt Pim

[theirkin]

Oh, got it. Thanks PRoeske. It's been so long since I've played around with poison that I had completely forgotten about that.

Joe

[theirkin]

So I rewrote the list as follows:

Swarmlord
3 Tyrant Guard
Doom in Spore
4x10 Genestealers w/ Broodlord
11 Genesteakers w/ Broodlord
2 Tyranofex's w/ rupture cannon

This list has a lot more of the Genestealers, with them picking up duties on taking out low armor, and the Doom being a second answer to AV 14. The problem now is a heavier reliance on outflanking the Genestealers and the Doom is a little too cliched...

So how does this stack up to the other list? Is there something I missed on this list that could push it over the top? I'm really looking for that crucial elites spot, and I could live with dropping some 'stealers as well.

Thanks for any advice guys.

Joe