What is the normal points range of the games you play ?

[mullinstron]

As a new Warmachine/hordes player I am intrested in how many points people nomrally play. I have done some 15 and 25 point games but am not sure if thats the norm.

I wanted to start a Khador force, but Was unsure about what points level to shoot for.

Thanks !

~m

[j78]

we play 35 almost exclusively in our meta. we have nights where we drop to 15 for fun, but we hardly ever play 50 in the interest of getting more games in.

[Ankehl]

Current standard format seems to be 35 points, to my opinion. I droped to 15 when i play an initiation game, but normal games are 35.

[Gunnbjorn]

I tend to play 25 due to time and space constraints, but yeah - 35 seems to be a good minimum to aim for. Though one of the many things I like about Hordesmachine is buying way more points than I need and mixing up my army between each game.

[Corax.69]

My local group is just starting up, so we don't have lots of players with deep collections. Our average game is around 25 points. This allows for quick games. At 25 points, there is usually enough points to run a warnoun, a unit, and some solos/support pieces.

[Luke Licens]

My local group is just starting up, so we don't have lots of players with deep collections. Our average game is around 25 points. This allows for quick games. At 25 points, there is usually enough points to run a warnoun, a unit, and some solos/support pieces.

A Warnoun? Nice turn of prase. I'm gonna have to borrow that.

[ElectricPaladin]

In my area we seem to play 35 and 50 points games. Some players jokingly say "let's play Unbound," but I've never actually walked in on a game that size - or any size larger than 50 - in progress. Instead of playing any of the multiple-warnoun points sizes, we usually seem to prefer team games.

[mullinstron]

Thanks guys I will shoot for a 35 point list. Any Advice on a good caster for a Man O war list ?

[ElectricPaladin]

I don't know which games you have experience with, but one thing that's true about WarmaHordes is that most models are very flexible. You don't necessarily want to build to a list, because as you come to learn the game better, you're going to discover lots of other stuff you might like.

For example, my Legion of Everblight force started with a beast-focused Absylonia list, but I'm now mixing it up to create a magic-heavy Bethayne list (though I'll probably still run a lot of beasts - I do love beasts). With Cygnar, I started the Nemos and everything electric all the time, though now expanding into a 'jack-heavy Kraye list. The thing is, a lot of models are flexible and can be used in a variety of lists.

So, by all means buy what you like and what interests you, but don't expect it to be the last you buy, and if you have to make a choice at this stage, go for more flexible models over less flexible models.

[mullinstron]

I like Vlad, Behemoth and man o wars. Just wanted to make sure I was not making a bad mistake =D

[ElectricPaladin]

I like Vlad, Behemoth and man o wars. Just wanted to make sure I was not making a bad mistake =D

I've heard good things about all three, but if I were you I'd check out the battle college (http://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/). They've got good advice and unit profiles there.

[Dais]

I play mostly 35 point games but 50 and 15 are also common enough. For some reason my 15 point games take almost as long as 35s.
I have no interest in games larger than 50 though. Two casters could be fun but 100 points is bloated beyond the point of fun. I would rather play 2 50 point games or 3 35s in that time.

[Mr. Mayhem]

While there's nothing wrong with 25, I think 35 or 50 are the most common sized games. 15 is on the small side. We mostly do 35, with the occasional 50.

[Nidirom]

Mostly 35 and 50 here. I would love to play 100+ if anyone had enough figures.

[Vinsklortho]

We mostly play 50 but we have a giant 250 points unbound game schedules for next weekend.

[cody]

Thanks guys I will shoot for a 35 point list. Any Advice on a good caster for a Man O war list ?

main drawback of mow is they are slow. epic vlad and strakhov can feat to help their threat range. epic irusk can help 1 unit get down field. several tier lists , irusk, esorscha, butcher, karchev give them a 1st turn speed boost.

[muffinman331]

We're mostly playing 50 point games now to get ready for Adepticon. I really enjoy 35 points, but 50 is fun when you can bring a lot of extra support stuff. 25 is also fun at times just for a small, fast paced game. you take what you need and nothing else. I wouldn't want to do it all the time, but it is a fun way to play

[Jack-Hammer]

35pts is what we'd play 90% of the time. With a few BB games or 15pts if we're hard pressed for time.

[Drakkan Vael]

We started with 25 points to get to know the game but I expect us to move to 35 soon.

[docbungle]

25 or 35 is the norm although we have great fun with 15.

Only limited experience with 50.

Stick within the 25/35 and you cant go wrong

[Greggle]

While I don't have anything against 35pt games, I find that Trollbloods (my only faction) really need to get up to 50pts before we start to get competitive.

[Hendybadger]

When I started playing I went up and up. 15-25-50-75
But then decided I just wasnt keen on the larger games. Anything from 35-50 I find the most fun

[Dyrnwyn]

Locally, 25-35 is most common, with 15 and 50 point games occasionally being played.

[Korwen]

I played mostly 35 point games locally until recently, and since I've decided to try and compete at a couple large conventions this year I've stepped up to playing almost exclusively 50 points since that is the norm at tournaments.

It seems like a lot at first, but once you get the hang of 50 point games (especially practicing with timed turns) it is a lot of fun, and feels more balanced. The only issue is now I have trouble building 35 point lists, because I got used to all the models I could bring at 50!

[docbungle]

When I started playing I went up and up. 15-25-50-75
But then decided I just wasnt keen on the larger games. Anything from 35-50 I find the most fun
Was there anything that bothered you specifically about 50+ games?

[MiketheLurker]

I also went from a Battlebox sized game (~15 points) and progressed up to 35 points. However, I am being introduced to timed turns and Steamroller Scenarios, so I dropped it down to 25 points because I am still fairly new at the game (about 4 months)

[herigonz]

Do y'all think that people tend to groan whenever they see people playing out of the battlebox with only 15 points? I suppose if anything most people are happy that there are other players ready to join in the fun.

[Swifter66]

I'd prefer to play 35 or above, but if the other player only has x amount of models then so be it, although at that point level i think the games should be mangled metal/tooth n claw.

[under]

We were 35 points locally for the better part of 2011, but things have shifted to a preference of 50 points as defaultin 2012, but a lot of games are still being run at 15-35 due to newer/faction changing players.

[Chuck777]

35 is the norm but I've seen some people play 100 point games... The latter of which looked more like a 40k game than a Warmahordes game when I walked by ;)

[Martin_Fierro]

I like 35 point games as they're over quicker and give the chance of getting in another game. My son prefers 50 points as we get more models on the table.

He and I actually set up and played a 150 point Unbound game, it was crazy. He played Menoth and I played Trollbloods. Took us forever. Considering a 50 point game usually takes us more than two hours you can imagine how long it took for 150!

[thebarbalag]

I highly suggest putting in at least half a dozen battlebox-sized games to start and get the rules under your belt. After than, the most common in my meta are 35 and 50, depending on time available and skill/experience of opponent. I'd much rather play a smaller game with an inexperienced opponent for time's sake.