Grey Knights 1750

[PRoeske]

Hi there,

I've been working on a tournament Grey Knight army off lately. As it is only 1750 points, fpfancy stuff like draigo-wing wotpnt work too well, as there are no points to buy decent support units.

Alas, here is what i came up with:

Librarian, might of titan, shrouding, sanctuary @ 165

6 purifiers, 5x halberd, 1x Daemonhammer @ 159

6 Grey Knights, psycannon @ 130
6 Grey Knights, psycannon @ 130
6 Grey Knights, psycannon @ 130

6 Grey Knights, Daemonhammer @ 130

Razorback, psybolts @ 50
Razorback, psybolts @ 50
Razorback, psybolts @ 50
Razorback, psybolts @ 50

Dreadnought, 2x autocannon, psybolts @ 135
Dreadnought, 2x autocannon, psybolts @ 135
Landraider @ 255

= 1569 pts
Rest: 181

So the question is,what to do with the left-over points. At least i want to have 1servo-skull, and another unit of whatsoever.

Option 1:
6 Grey Knights, Daemonhammer, Rhino @ 170
1x Servo-Skull @ 5
1x Warp Rift @ 5
= 180 (1poin left)

Option 2:
Inquisitor /w 2x servo-skull, combi-melta @ 41
Henchen consisting of: @ 88
2x warrior acolyte /w meltaguns
60 points worth of arco-flaggelants, deathcult assassins, crusaders or psykers
Rhino @ 40
Warp rift @ 5
= 174 (7 pts left)

And, if option 2, what ombination of henchmen would you suggest?

Cheers,

Pim

[State Cricus]

I would take option 1 to give solid scoring option, psycannon instaed of hammer.
Without Coteaz, Option 2 will not be scoring and be difficult to use as it will have 2 roles to fulfill.

[Roma89q]

If option 2 i'd go with 4 DCA's in that 60 pts you have left. You could use another counter CC unit. Btw whats riding in the land raider? The purifiers and libby?

[PRoeske]

Indeed the libby + purifiers.

Cheers.

Pim

[Sethimath]

option one. Warp rift is awsome to take on armor 14 boxes or clustered thin transports

[Roma89q]

I agree with Sethimath, option 1 would probably fit best.

[karandras]

Grey knights...

[PRoeske]

Grey knights...

@Karandras.
If you have any problems with GK, fine. Jusy don't spoil any topics with it.

At all;

Thx!

[karandras]

I wasn't trying to spoil anything... just got busy at work and had to leave for the day so I left it. Not sure how it was interpreted as negative, only your preconceived notions, as it did not say anything at all. Carry on!

[Roma89q]

I wasn't trying to spoil anything... just got busy at work and had to leave for the day so I left it. Not sure how it was interpreted as negative, only your preconceived notions, as it did not say anything at all. Carry on!

Playing mind games here, trying to see if we feel guilty for playing grey knights based on our reactions! fun.

[chipstar1]

I don't think single LR lists work. 2+ or none, IMO.

[Roma89q]

I don't think single LR lists work. 2+ or none, IMO.

Single Land Raiders can work great. They make a nice aura expansion for the libby powers and the purifiers are in there as a counter charge unit that gets close to his lines. Since the Land raider isn't charging up the field he won't get melta'd to death, also with all the GKSS he has warpquake preventing anything landing near it for a quick melta shot as well. Land raiders used like this can provide excellent fire lanes for the rest of his MSU style force with its bulk (block LoS, prevent enemy movement) while simultaneously threatening two transports at a time (potentially). Not to mention its a fire magnet, letting the psybacks/dreads do their work unfettered.

This is all assuming he's not planning on racing it down the enemies throat. If he plans this, then I agree 2+ or none.

[PRoeske]

Well, obviously the landraider isindeed used as a counter-assault unit. In practice, most of the times it hangs back for 2 or 3 turns, to decimate some stuff. After it goes in to clean the board with the purifiers,

It is also great to create initial coversaves for all the razorbacks, as you don't have to put soething AV11 up front.

Last weekend i played a 1750 tournament (which i won with 50 out of 60 command points). The one thing i struggled with, are the 6-men psycannon squads worth it?

In most games you want to psition them in a good spot and abuse the psycannon. I'd say you dont need 6 man to do so.

Dropping those 3 maries gives me another 60 points toplay with....

Grt Pim

[betacentauri]

i'd say option one seems more viable.

[DarkLink]

I don't think single LR lists work. 2+ or none, IMO.

Several years of personal experience with the Daemonhunters codex strongly disagrees with you. If a single Land Raider can work with the crappy old codex, you can bet that it does with the new one. All you need are some Rhinos to screen your Land Raider to give it cover and protect from melta.

[thefremen]

A single land raider can work very well especially with a Librarian inside giving it shroud after popping smoke or having a fleet of rhinos/razorbacks screening it. I've had land raiders last turns 1-5 against space pups soaking up shots left and right with that sweet sweet 3+ cover save and Fortitude for the glances that actually get through.

[PRoeske]

Have been playing another 6 games with the list and the main problem i keep encountering are opponent Landraiders. Lost 2/3 games when facing one, purely because i didnt roll those 6es for rending. Personally i think this will only ne the problem with Landraider Crusader and Redeemer as they want to close in. Other types i'm nit that afraid of.

New idea that's bren developing in my mind.

Current situation:
6 marines, psycannon @ 130
6 marines, psycannon @ 130
6 marines, psycannon @ 130
6 marines, daemonhammer @ 130
6 marines, daemonhammer @ 130

Idea:
5 marines, psycannon @ 110
5 marines, psycannon @ 110
6 marines, psycannon, daemonhammer @ 140
6 marines, psycannon, daemonhammer @ 140
6 marines, psycannon, daemonhammer @ 140
+ Multi-Melta on landraider @ 10

In this way i lose 2 marines, but add in 2 more psycannons, another daemonhammer and a multi-melta.

So what do you think? More bodies or better equipment.

Grt Pim