Supposing that the rumoured paint change happens next month...

[sneakyben]

Assuming that the rumoured paint change happens next month... which will be potentially annoying as I am just starting up painting a new list and THINK I have enough paint to do it, but maybe not :rolleyes:

In the (i think unlikely) event that GW will no longer have avalible the paints I will be using (or very very similar paint with a slightly different names), is there somewhere I would be able to get the following:

Codex Grey
Gretchin Green
Devlin Mud

[Defenestratus]

From what I've been told, the whole line is being redone - meaning that existing colors will not be "supported" post-change.

I've already stocked up. I've got 20 bottles of each color that I require for my paint scheme for my eldar army - I'm hoping that lasts me quite a while.

[kabelguy]

i inquired into a GW store recently where I could get the soon to be out of print paints. They stated that there are websites out there (non-GW supported siteS) that have the formulas for mixing the old paint colors from the new equivalents. Does any one know any links to these sites as I do not?

[StraightSilver]

The Coat D'Arms paint range is almost identical colour wise to the GW range, and their paint names are conveniently close enough to the GW names to work out which is which (handy that isn't it...;))

They are also very good paints and come in the old style GW paint pots, which means that they don't dry out like the current GW ones do.

Vallejo game colour are also similar, but the Coat D'Arms range really are almost identical.

The only colour you won't be able to replicate is Devlan Mud, as the GW washes are unique.

I knew the standard colours were going, but didn't realise the washes were, does that go for the foudation paints too?

Bugger, bugger, bugger!! I need to run out and buy loads if that's the case!! :(

[Deadlift]

The Coat D'Arms paint range is almost identical colour wise to the GW range, and their paint names are conveniently close enough to the GW names to work out which is which (handy that isn't it...;))

They are also very good paints and come in the old style GW paint pots, which means that they don't dry out like the current GW ones do.

Vallejo game colour are also similar, but the Coat D'Arms range really are almost identical.

The only colour you won't be able to replicate is Devlan Mud, as the GW washes are unique.

I knew the standard colours were going, but didn't realise the washes were, does that go for the foudation paints too?

Bugger, bugger, bugger!! I need to run out and buy loads if that's the case!! :(

I would be very surprised if the washes were replaced considering just how popular they are. Im not worried at all. If they do replace them it will be with something better.

[eldargal]

This is rumoured to be an expansion of the paint range, if that is the case I doubt we will see the loss of many paints and certainly not the washes which are phenomenally popular.

[celestialatc]

I kind of hope they bring back inks. The Red Inks was amazing! I miss it.

[gcsmith]

From what i know we will have

Foundation
Base
Layer
Wash

So if the current range is being replaced completely it seems they want to have the colours divided by role,

Except thats funny because 'evy metal team use foundation paints as highlights more than foundations in white dwarf really hope they don't change all paints

[MarneusCalgar]

i inquired into a GW store recently where I could get the soon to be out of print paints. They stated that there are websites out there (non-GW supported siteS) that have the formulas for mixing the old paint colors from the new equivalents. Does any one know any links to these sites as I do not?

Here you got one

http://volomir.blogspot.com/2012/01/citadel-colour-get-them-all-in-5-pots.html

[warpcrafter]

Here you got one

http://volomir.blogspot.com/2012/01/citadel-colour-get-them-all-in-5-pots.html

Great, more GW smarmy chav attitude. This is almost as bad as the "Liquid greenstuff plus tools to fix unusable finecast" kit. No fething thanks. I'm going to Vallejo...

[Slug]

Great, more GW smarmy chav attitude. This is almost as bad as the "Liquid greenstuff plus tools to fix unusable finecast" kit. No fething thanks. I'm going to Vallejo...

Um, that's not actually an official article, GW aren't replacing their entire range (I hope) with just red, yellow, blue, white, and black along with a handy reference sheet. This is just someone cleverly playing with colour theory and GW paints.

I would be surprised if foundation and washes get replaced, the recent picture with the supposed new paints actually had a foundation paint there, as of for the rest, they will either keep the name and colour or will have a handy chart to tell us what new colours to use. Still, I might just put off starting to paint my new Necrons till after this happens. I think it will be for the better, the paints will probably be better, and I'm sure they aren't going to change the entire range, especially not the popular core paints.

[Uncle Nutsy]

neat...

but it doesn't concern me in the least, seeing as I have access to a book that contains over thirty thousand colors.

[eldargal]

Don't be silly. Ignoring the fact that GW aren't doing what tht article talks about, and ignoring the fact that GWs liquid green stuff is identical to a vallejo product the fact is GW (and FW before them) should have been offering a liquid putty in their range years earlier. The stuff is great for sealing all those irritating hairline gaps between model bits.

Great, more GW smarmy chav attitude. This is almost as bad as the "Liquid greenstuff plus tools to fix unusable finecast" kit. No fething thanks. I'm going to Vallejo...

[Deadlift]

I think some people are getting needlessly worried about this paint issue, maybe the whole range is being redone but I expect most of the colours you use now will still be available just in a different guise. The pigments for the most popular colours will either be the same or so damn close you wont notice. :cool:

[MarneusCalgar]

Um, that's not actually an official article, GW aren't replacing their entire range (I hope) with just red, yellow, blue, white, and black along with a handy reference sheet. This is just someone cleverly playing with colour theory and GW paints.

I would be surprised if foundation and washes get replaced, the recent picture with the supposed new paints actually had a foundation paint there, as of for the rest, they will either keep the name and colour or will have a handy chart to tell us what new colours to use. Still, I might just put off starting to paint my new Necrons till after this happens. I think it will be for the better, the paints will probably be better, and I'm sure they aren't going to change the entire range, especially not the popular core paints.

Thanks for your support into my friend´s article...

Of course it´s not official, it´s only a trick from one of the most spanish´s renamed miniature painters of the european Games Days...

Only tried to help everyone with that, but seems some people still want to remain in idiocracy better than into knowledge

[robrodgers46]

I would be absolutely shocked if GW got rid of Codex Gray. I don't think you need to worry, they sometimes seem clueless but there is no way they would anger their entire customer base by getting rid of all paints that match current colors.

BB

[flekkzo]

Thanks for your support into my friend´s article...

Of course it´s not official, it´s only a trick from one of the most spanish´s renamed miniature painters of the european Games Days...

Only tried to help everyone with that, but seems some people still want to remain in idiocracy better than into knowledge

Your friend is a fantastic painter, love his work! It equally inspires me and makes me wonder why I am even trying :)

Don't worry, there's a lot of us out here that loves to learn anything and everything we can about painting and modeling. :)

[Thornblood]

When low on paint many years ago I realised that Dark Angels Green plus Elf flesh makes Snot green and Goblin Green.

Love the article. Especially the 156 parts yellow in Khaki.

My FLGS (not the GW one) has a chart for GW colours to vallejo. Found this; http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart

The 'Eavy Metal Team use Vallejo and Tamiya paints (and the old white dwarf team, dunno about the current guys) as shown in old pics of their workstations, and that the Tau were released in a non GW colour (Tau Spet Ochre being released a loooong time later).

Foundation paints and washes are brilliant, for everything else I buy elsewhere because its the same or higher quality, cheaper and has a bigger range of colours.

[Grenadier]

Looks as if I have another thing to be annoyed with GW about then. It irks me how they're always "improving" things and changes things. As for the paints themselves, I've only used two kinds:

The first being those exceptionally cheap and lousy paints you get a Walmart's crafts section. I used them when I first started out. And due to being poor I am reluctant to shell out the cash for ever increasingly expensive GW products. Nonetheless after seeing some models in person painted with their paint I made the switch.

How is the liquid green stuff? I'm a fan of regular green stuff but have found it difficult to fill gaps with.

[Kawauso]

Liquid GS is miraculous.

Seriously, get some. It makes gap-filling ridiculously easy.

[Fenrisian]

I doubt they'll scrap the entire range, they'll just get rid of colours that don't get bought a lot and then add some others in. If they do, at least there's the references to see what other company colours you need.

[Javin]

I think the foundation paints and washes will stay. I am not sure about all the older paints. I want to stock up on paints but the paints dry out too fast.

[unique-dragon]

i don't think GW would just kick out all their paints to be honest,
maybe replace them, but not just kicking them out

[Cpt Codpiece]

i don't think GW would just kick out all their paints to be honest,
maybe replace them, but not just kicking them out

they have done it before.... a few times.

blood angels orange, deadly nightshade, titalating pink, smelly primer, brazen brass, beaten copper to name a few that i can think of at this time of night

[DanteSuper]

they have done it before.... a few times.

blood angels orange, deadly nightshade, titalating pink, smelly primer, brazen brass, beaten copper to name a few that i can think of at this time of night

No more Brazen Brass !?! NOOOOO !!! I just checked the website and yeah you are right... :(

[Belial69]

Why is it that my old hex pots with the claggy lids that always broke off, still have not dried out but half my new (current) pots have died without even being opened?

[Blaznak]

I was never able to get the exact same blues for my crimson fists after they discontinued one of the older paints. I think it was Midnight Blue or something. I could always come close, but never exact...

[Elahir]

I don't really see the benefit of replacing the curent range (in case that's their idea) :confused:. Why just not adding new paints? I would be really pissed if I could not upgrade my current armies with the same color scheme.

[frommage]

The only thing that scares me from Citadel is the way that the paint pot seems to diminish: started with .68 fl oz, .62 fl oz and now steady at .4 fl oz. I hope they don't get smaller...

[Chris*ta]

Here you got one

http://volomir.blogspot.com/2012/01/citadel-colour-get-them-all-in-5-pots.html

I read this article, and thought it sounded a bit hinky, from my background doing art-type painting.

And in the comments to that article I found another article that conclusively debunks the idea that you can get all the colours that Citadel produces just using red, blue, yellow, black and white. That article is here: http://lascannonslances.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/myth-busted-citadel-colour-mixing.html .

Coincidentally, when painting I do work using just the five "basic" colours, (i.e. red, blue, yellow, black and white) which means you can mix up most colours. Though I will buy another colour to get a specific shade (e.g. bright greens, it's very difficult to mix bright greens).

Christa

[Kataklysm]

The only thing that scares me from Citadel is the way that the paint pot seems to diminish: started with .68 fl oz, .62 fl oz and now steady at .4 fl oz. I hope they don't get smaller...

Actually just heard that the new paint pots will be .003 fl oz, and because GW seem to not now how to open a paint pot, there will actually be no lid on the product, just a bit of dampened paper towel (the nice kind with the flowers).

[unique-dragon]

they have done it before.... a few times.

blood angels orange, deadly nightshade, titalating pink, smelly primer, brazen brass, beaten copper to name a few that i can think of at this time of night
true, but those weren't very popular colours i guess, or didnt sell enough.
if that's not the case, i'm just plain wrong :p

[Xenith]

I just hope they keep Scorpion Green...

[LostInTheDark]

I came across this article in a few blogs

http://miniaturewargameconversions.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/new-citadel-paints-and-extras-confirmed.html

that has a pretty large list of new paints. No idea if it is legit or not...

The List: (minus any formatting what so ever :rolleyes:)




BASES


Ceramite White


Averland Sun


Jokaero Orange


Mephiston Red


Khorne Red


Naggaroth Night


Daemonette Hide


Kantor Blue


Macragge Blue


Caledon Sky


Stegadon scale green


Incubi Darkness


Caliban Green


Waaaagh! Flesh


Castellan green


Death world forest


Zandri dust


Steel Legion Drab


Bugmans Glow


Ratskin Flesh


Mournfang brown


XV-88


Rhinox hide


Dryad bark


Mechanicus standard grey


Celestus grey


Abaddon Black (the only black in the range)


Rakarth flesh


The fang


Screamer pink


Leadblecher (metal)


Balthasar Gold (metal)


Screaming Bell (metal)


Warplock brown (metal)










LAYER


White Scar


Yriel Yellow


Flash gitz yellow


Troll slayer orange


Fire dragon bright


Evil sunz scarlet


Wild Rider red


Wazdakka red


Squig Orange


Xereus Purple


Genestealer Purple


Warpfiend Grey


Slaanesh Grey


Alaitoc blue


Hoeth blue


Altdorf guard blue


Calgar blue


Teclis blue


Lothern blue


Sotek green


Temple guard blue


Kabalite green


Sybarite green


Warpstone glow


Moot green


Warboss green


Skarsnik green


Loren Forest


Straken green


Nurgling green


Elysian green


Ogryn camo


Ushabti Bone


Screaming skull


Tallarn sand


Karak stone


Cadian fleshstone


Kislev Flesh


Bestigor flesh


Ungor flesh


Skrag brown


Deathclaw brown


Tau light Ochre


Balor brown


Zamesi brown


Doombull brown


Tuskigor fur


Gorthor Brown


Baneblade Brown


Dawnstone


Administratum grey


Eshin grey


Dark reaper


Thunderhawk blue


Skavenblight dinge


Stormvermin fur


Ulthuan grey


Pallid wych flesh


Russ grey


Fenrisian grey


Pink horror


Emperors Children


Ironbreaker (metal)


Runefang steel (metal)


Gehennas gold(metal)


Auric Armour(metal)


Hashut Copper(metal)


Sycorax Bronze(metal)


Brass Scorpion(metal)


Runelord Brass(metal)






SHADES


Casandora Yellow


Fuegan Orange


Carroburg Crimson


Druchii Violet


Drakenhof Nightshade


Coelia greenshade


Biel-tan green


Athonian camoshade


Seraphim Sepia


Reikland fleshshade


Agrax earthshade (Devlan Mud)


Nuln Oil






DRY


Praxeti White


Hexos palesun


Kindleflame


Lucius Lilac


Etherium blue


Skink blue


Hellion green


Underhive ash


Eldar Flesh


Tyrant Shell


Terminatus stone


Longbeard grey


Changling pink


Necron Compound


Golden Griffon






GLAZE


Lamenters yellow


Waywatcher Green


Guilliman blue


Bloodletter






TEXTURE


Mourn Mountain snow


Stirland Mud


Blackfire Eath


Astrogranite


Armageddon Dust


Lustrian Undergrowth






TECHNICAL


Lahmian Medium


Ard coat


Imperial Primer


Liquid Green stuff

[jimmehmaca]

Wow that is some list. It looks like new colours mixed in with old and the old re-named. I might have to stock on a few colours incase the disaper

[Elahir]

Same here, I doubt the new ones will be too different but I'm not gonna risk it. I'll buy a few of each of my main colors, wondering if this is what GW wants with the name change :P

[Levitas]

Same here, I doubt the new ones will be too different but I'm not gonna risk it. I'll buy a few of each of my main colors, wondering if this is what GW wants with the name change :P

Painters rage, right there. Marketing ploy #131: Create a false need. :mad:

[Emerett]

Regarding Any Paint Question Ever:

Just Use Vallejo.

[thingol]

From everything I've seen, the paint colours themselves won't be changing, just their names, so I'm not worried about not being able to get a colour I used in the past. The addition of more paints to the range can't be too bad, though it would be really, really, really nice if they brought the inks back.

[dewisant]

Guess all will become clear on the 25th.

[eldargal]

I would but I actually want paint of consistently good quality, so I'll stick with GW and Coat d'Arms.

Regarding Any Paint Question Ever:

Just Use Vallejo.

[The Shadow King]

From what I've read about the new paints, aren't they all meant to be kept, just with different names, and a 'conversion' guide will be in White Dwarf?

[Dru]

For the none brits out there, what normally happens with anything big ont he Uk site is the following . Half or zero updates to the site/blog on the friday , and then at roughly midday on saturday they update the site with fridays dates. So possibly this si just an trailer for a sneak peak ?

[FltMedic]

I went to my FLGS today to pick up Devlin Mud and they were sold out. When I asked them how something so absurdly silly could happen ( I mean come on its friggen Devlin Mud) I was told they are not sending any more out from the distributors right now......

[White Tiger88]

I went to my FLGS today to pick up Devlin Mud and they were sold out. When I asked them how something so absurdly silly could happen ( I mean come on its friggen Devlin Mud) I was told they are not sending any more out from the distributors right now......

Ya my Local Gw is out of bleached bone and all the other popular colors as well and for some reason didn't get a restock...hmmm i wonder why....