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St.Germaine
12-27-2011, 03:24 PM
A while back I got started on an idea for an IG regiment that I've wanted to do for a long time, a regiment based on the American Civil War Union army. I would like to get back to painting them but I need to improve them more than a bit in order to get revved up for painting in the volume necessary for IG. I've been a decent painter for a long time but have always had a problem with fabric. Armor, vehicles, monsters, and the like have always looked pretty decent but getting fabric to look good has not gone well for me. I'm looking for two things, 1)fabric painting tutorials that demonstrate techniques for painting large numbers of figures and still have them look decent and 2)specific color suggestions.

1)I've found some fabric painting tutorials that involve several levels of layering, shading, and blending; while this is great for individual figures, this process is ill-suited to the number of figures involved in an IG regiment. I'm a fairly slow painter and am prone to worrying about details more than necessary when painting large blocks of figures than I probably should be. Hints for speeding up the process or links to tutorials that cover this would be most appreciated. A big problem is that the uniform is two toned, very dark blue jackets and pale blue pants. Therefore, techniques such as dipping seem inappropriate for this army.

2)My base colors are very similar to GW's Citadel Foundation range Necron Abyss and Citadel Colour range Space Wolf Gray. Dark blue as a base color has similar issues to black (at least for me) in regards to shading and highlighting. It all looks like a big dark blob, even after adding some gold for the eagle and the twin rows of gold buttons on the Union jackets. Some specific suggestions for items that could be highlighted and or shaded to make this area of the figures less of a dark blue blob without changing the whole concept would be nice. I've toyed with the idea of perhaps having the plates on the torso be a slightly different color of blue to give it some depth but have not experimented with this yet. I suspect that a slightly paler shade would be best but I'm open to all suggestions.

The pants are a different problem altogether. The creases/folds on the legs should make this an easier exercise but I've not been happy with the results. This should be easier for suggestions to fix I'm hoping (particularly if I can find a tutorial that streamlines the process). Then I would need only specific suggestions that have worked for others in regards to color to use for the depths of the folds/creases and a color to use for the highlights.


Any suggestions will be most appreciated.

St.Germaine
12-28-2011, 06:42 PM
I thought perhaps a pic might help. These are early as I don't have a pic with more gold on the jackets and some of the leg shading attempts.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/Sunhawk000/P1010074.jpg

mallet_man
12-29-2011, 04:09 AM
You could try using for the blue a mix of regal blue and black, it makes a nice dark shade similar to that of crimson fists but not as dark as necron abyss, you can then apply a wash of azurmen blue over which would give nice shading and not take long, then top it off with a few highlights if your desire or drybrush before the wash with plain regal blue! For the space wolves grey again asurmen blue wash works quite well but perhaps water it down so it doesnt create too much of a contrast! In terms of keeping the recesses and creases visible make sure you don't put too thick a layer of paint over the pants, shouldnt be a problem if your using a white primer, but if you are priming black then i would maybe use one of the light grey foundation paints followed by a layer of sw grey! hope this helps!

doom-kitten
12-29-2011, 09:29 AM
Ironically you and I share a similiar problem, will be keeping an eye on this to steal some advice, sorry XD.

Iceman
12-29-2011, 11:10 AM
I'm not an expert on the Civil War, but I am sure I have seen plenty of pictures of Union soldiers wearing light blue pants with a dark blue jacket. I think if you use that color combination, that will break up the dark blue monotony right there.

As far as painting clothing goes, I have found that it takes a minimum of 3 colors to give you a good looking effect, at least at tabletop range. Like you, I have an IG army (nearly 150 individual figures at last count) and prefer being able to turn out good looking figures with a minimum of effort. For my figures, I painted the cloth uniforms with a base of dark earth. Then I followed up with khaki, leaving the dark earth in the deep creases. Finally, I added a layer of bleached bone leaving some khaki visible. I will follow up with a couple of pictures when I get home. The effect looks really good with not a lot of effort. The pants and shirt look like their basic color is somewhere between khaki and bleached bone.

I would suggest a similar approach for the uniform. For the light blue of the pants, maybe an Ultramarine Blue for the base coat, followed by two lighter shades of blue. Although you could probably get away with using Space Wolves Gray with an Asurmen Blue wash and then a drybrush of Ice Blue.

For the dark blue of the tunic I would consider starting with Regal Blue, giving it a wash of Badab Black and then drybrushing Ultramarine Blue.

For the body armor and helmet, go with Mordian Blue (just so it is a slightly different color from the Regal Blue) and then just highlight the edges with Space Wolves Gray.

Of course you can go with Mordian Bue for the tunic and Regal Blue for the armor.

Post some pics. I would like to see how they come out.

Iceman
12-29-2011, 02:44 PM
As promised, here are a few pictures of my Imperial Guard using the 3 color layer techniquie.

St.Germaine
12-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestions so far. WAAYYY too many bowl games to watch over the next few days but I'll be trying these suggestions out in the next couple of weeks.

I'm definitely going for the dark blue / light blue look. The dark blue blob I was referring to was the torso & arms of each figure.

Here is a picture of my boys from early on. I don't have any of the more recent experiments photographed.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/Sunhawk000/P1010074.jpg