IA 11 - The Doom of Mymeara released.

[BigGrim]

As Title.

Just went live now!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL-ARMOUR-VOLUME-ELEVEN-THE-DOOM-OF-MYMEARA.html

My copy is ordered.

[DrLove42]

Yeah I would have beaten you to posting this but i was busy ordering mine. Hopefully in the first 500....

And its released on the same day I got paid...thats got to be a sign.

For people who don't know, express delivery gets it to you before christmas still

[Bitrider]

Man!!! You gotta be quick around here post something new!

I am soooo looking forward to this book!

[SotonShades]

Well done to FW to get this out in time. Cutting it a little close though lol.

[DrWobbles]

Finally!!!

[BigGrim]

Yeah I would have beaten you to posting this but i was busy ordering mine. Hopefully in the first 500....

And its released on the same day I got paid...thats got to be a sign.

For people who don't know, express delivery gets it to you before christmas still

Heh heh. Posted it once I'd ordered mine. I've wanted this for ages but £17+ postage? Ouch.

[energongoodie]

Elysians are listed. Does anyone know if we are getting some new Elysian models?

[JMichael]

I will wait until it's up on GW's site. I live in the US and it's far cheaper for me to order on gw.com (free and faster shipping!)

But soooo looking forward to this!

[MarneusCalgar]

There´s, down here, another thread for this...

But good news either!!

Hope they release Bran Redmaw´s miniature soon!!

[david5th]

Ordered mine, paid for express delivery so should be here by monday. :)

[BigGrim]

For £17 I expect it before the weekend.

[eldargal]

Hurray! Have to admit I'm surprised.

[DrLove42]

I think they said they wont be dispatched until Friday. So imagine tuesday?

[Bigred]

Ordered!

Its so far to Texas...

Someone write up a review when you get yours. Forgeworld just announced it was written by Talima Fox, who last I knew worked in their Legal Department. Odd...

[Gotthammer]

I've ordered mine, and will do one of my usual IA reviews for it (http://collegiatitanica.blogspot.com/search/label/IA%20Review) when it arrives.

[MarneusCalgar]

Well, hope mine arrives soon!!

[raven1man]

I ordered this book so hard when I got home.

[LostInTheDark]

At last!

I ordered mine and a big bunch of the new Eldar stuff. I wonder how long express delivery takes to get to Australia?

Happy camper :D

[eldargal]

Really hoping Farseer Bel-Annath is a girl, sounds like it could be, but who knows with Eldar names.:rolleyes:

[MarneusCalgar]

Well, eldars are usually tending to be gay people so...

Don´t bother, just a joke, remember Lord of the Rings??

[eldargal]

Well, chances are after millions of years of evolution and the importance of gender being reduced to being a purely biological one, Eldar are all pansexuals.:p

[DrLove42]

I'm sure I saw somewhere on the Facebook FW page that the Farseer was a he. And hat no model was planned.

[eldargal]

Figures, though on the facebook site they said he was male as far as he could recall so hopefully he is wrong.:p Another wasted opportunity though, if it is a male.

Just saw that they airfreighted a small quantity of books in to put up for order while they wait for the bulk to arrive, that explains the mystery of how the shipping containers were in China a few days ago.

[MarneusCalgar]

Well, in the grim darkness of the dark future seems to remain only brave men hahaha

[JMichael]

just ordered my copy along with a Warp Hunter (which is also the full Fire Prism/Night Spinner kit).

[BigGrim]

Bear in mind the Warp Hunter does not come with the Prism Crystals or the special canopy.

[DadExtraordinaire]

Ordered!

Its so far to Texas...

Someone write up a review when you get yours. Forgeworld just announced it was written by Talima Fox, who last I knew worked in their Legal Department. Odd...
Bigred, Talima Fox has been involved in Codices, IA books and other published material. I believe she has also written a GW novel as well.......

[Defenestratus]

Bear in mind the Warp Hunter does not come with the Prism Crystals or the special canopy.

Both of mine did.

[raven1man]

So did anyone see that shadow spec page....I know its a little hard to read but it looks like they got a huge bump in power (from what I could make out). It looks like they have 18" range with 2 modes. 5++ which turns into a 4++ if greater then 12" away. couldn't make much more out. But those changes make me happy.

[DrLove42]

Theres people on FW facebook page saying theyve recieved theres already! which is impressive seeing as its not supposed to ship till today.

Mine still says its awaiting packaging

EDIT - Also FW have just put up a new video dev blog about it. Just looks and sounds very good! The artwork...always knew it was stunning but that backdrop at 4:16 is unbelievably gorgeous. Easily shapping up to be the most beautiful of all the FW books

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKCj38E8G-I

[BigGrim]

Both of mine did.

You jammy git! None of the three I have did! :eek:

[Xenith]

Anyone know if the eldar units have the "40k approved" stamp?

Trying to decide between this and IAA: 2E

[DrLove42]

Well if youre an eldar player get mymeara. EVERY fw eldar unit is in it. And they are 40k approved cos its practically just a codex extension. They might not have stamps but are legal.

[Lockark]

What are the campaign rules like for this one I wonder? Is thier any cool campaign rules for fighting on a ice world?

@.@

[Bitrider]

Theres people on FW facebook page saying theyve recieved theres already! which is impressive seeing as its not supposed to ship till today.

Mine still says its awaiting packaging

EDIT - Also FW have just put up a new video dev blog about it. Just looks and sounds very good! The artwork...always knew it was stunning but that backdrop at 4:16 is unbelievably gorgeous. Easily shapping up to be the most beautiful of all the FW books

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKCj38E8G-I

Mine shipped on Saturday to the US. Here is hoping for a Christmas miracle!!

[gwensdad]

Well if youre an eldar player get mymeara. EVERY fw eldar unit is in it. And they are 40k approved cos its practically just a codex extension. They might not have stamps but are legal.

um...even the titans are 40K legal?

[DrLove42]

The Titans are in the superheavy bit...that obviously isn't. But the "codex" part of the book includes mos the FW as far as I'm aware.

Mine was dispatched Friday. No show yet, but i'm hoping by time i get home....

[Xenith]

Well if youre an eldar player get mymeara. EVERY fw eldar unit is in it. And they are 40k approved cos its practically just a codex extension. They might not have stamps but are legal.

No stamp means opponent consent, and I have to write armies not including them. Stamp means I use them no matter what.

[DrLove42]

Guess what i just got in the post:-P

[lattd]

Guess what i just got in the post:-P

Review please, this is the first IA i am tempted to buy.

[DrLove42]

No stamp means opponent consent, and I have to write armies not including them. Stamp means I use them no matter what.

Just posted a mini part 1 (fluff) review in the General Section. Will post rules discussion later

Also...you'll be glad to know that unit for 40K have stamps on them, as do the Apoc ones. So can definently say get this book now!

Also...both the FArseer and the Phoenix Lord are both dudes. Sorry ladies

[Defenestratus]

Also...both the FArseer and the Phoenix Lord are both dudes. Sorry ladies

This fact alone has cemented my decision to purchase the book.

[BigGrim]

Mine still hasn't bloody arrived yet! Graaaaaaaaagh!

[DrLove42]

Its well worht the wait mate.

Got a signed copy too :P

[eldargal]

Right, because no true Eldar player would want the gender of the characters to actually reflect the backgrounf of the race, would they?


This fact alone has cemented my decision to purchase the book.

[Defenestratus]

Right, because no true Eldar player would want the gender of the characters to actually reflect the backgrounf of the race, would they?

Watching you ceaselessly whine and moan about the lack of political correctness in a game of toy soldiers overcomes any desire I have for the model line to reflect any fictional consistency.

[eldargal]

It isn't political correcntess, it is the races background. Eldar have no gender distinctions, yet females are limited to five our of 80 or so sculpts in the current range and there is only one female SC out of eight. That doesn't fit the fluff. If you are really so moronic as to mistake this for political correctess, perhaps you should go play Space Marines, no girls there, it would probably suit you perfectly.

[StraightSilver]

I have to say I agree with Eldargal on this one, it isn't political correctness but simply background material.

The Eldar are influenced by Celtic history and mythology in many ways and the Celts also had no gender restrictions regarding warriors.

Amongst the Eldar it doesn't matter whether you are male or female, you still get to follow the path of the warrior.

There should be as many females as males, and yet the only female aspect warriors available are banshees.

The Dark Eldar don't suffer from this problem, something like 40% of the Wyches and Kabbalites boxes are female.

However i would also like to point out the the fluff for Cadia is the same, men and women are drafted into the Cadian armed forces in equal measure, and yet there are no female Cadian models.

It just seems very short sighted in this day and age to assume the young boys might get distracted from buying toy soldiers if some of them are women!

So GW, let's not have female guardsmen in your novels and video games, or female Eldar in your fluff if you won't back them up with minis.

[eldargal]

It is interesting that Gav Thorpe mentioned he wanted to highlight the 'fluid' attitude Eldar take to gender and gender roles in the Path series but felt it would be a bit much for the readers (there was quite a bit about a male Howling Banshee that was reduced to a mere mention). If Defenestratus' reaction to the mere possible presence of more female sculpts is any indication, his concerns were well founded.:rolleyes:

But yes, it has nothing to do with 'political correctness' (Daily Mail reader? lol) and everything with the background. If we took Defenestratus statement as at all credible, thn the DE range would be a triumph of political correctess. Actually it just fits the races fluff, and I want to see the Craftworld range do the same. Anyone who thinks this is political correctness is either an idiot or doesn't know what political correctness is.

I do want Cadians to have female sculpts for the same reason, they are GWs poster boy regiment and we know the entire population is drafted into the military so there should be some girls there. Then you have Tanith, I think, regiments that have mixed gender or female-only regiments. It would be nice to see sculpts for those, too, but honestly I'd rather see plastic Valhallans, Tallarn, Mordians etc. first.

[Defenestratus]

It just seems very short sighted in this day and age to assume the young boys might get distracted from buying toy soldiers if some of them are women!

And there we have the political correctness!

To even make mention of the fact that, *gasp* some segment of a male consumer demographic would prefer to NOT purchase female miniatures would be tantamount to a cardinal sin in the church of political correctness.

But whatever. For some reason you've made it abundantly clear to the whole wargaming internet that you want every single new model coming out for Eldar to be female - and for the life of me I can't figure out if it infuriates me or just makes me laugh that someone cares that much about it.

[DrLove42]

Children play nice....people are allowed to have opinions...this is the internet after all :p

I agree with both sides, there does needto be more balence in a lot of the GW armies that can allow it.

But at the same time saying something needs to be female just cos the balence isn't there isn't really fair

[isotope99]

I think Eldargal's point is that the background strongly establishes a more equal role for male and female eldar on the battlefield but this is rarely (apart from Banshees) followed through into the characters and models on the tabletop.

It's like having the Space Wolves established as a close combat heavy legion/chapter and then making them most effective hiding in razorbacks and behind long fang missile launchers.

...Oh :(

:p

[StraightSilver]

isotope99: I wish there was a like button! :)

[Defenestratus]

I think Eldargal's point is that the background strongly establishes a more equal role for male and female eldar on the battlefield but this is rarely (apart from Banshees) followed through into the characters and models on the tabletop.

It's like having the Space Wolves established as a close combat heavy legion/chapter and then making them most effective hiding in razorbacks and behind long fang missile launchers.

...Oh :(

:p

Is there any fictional basis for the assumption that the gender breakdown of the Eldar race is close to the 50/50 split that the alien gender equity advocates would like to see implemented?

[Gotthammer]

"Both male and female Eldar move along the Eldar Path in the way described, so Warriors are equally likely to be male or female." - WH40k Compilation, pg 48 'Aspect Warriors'.

[eldargal]

That would be a resounding 'yes', which is why I recommend you actually know what you are talking about before having a hissy fit, Defenestratus. It is ironic that far from me trying to project my political views on the setting, it is you that are doing that by trying to insist that the Eldar background be ignored in favour of your own perverse ideas.

I don't want to see every Eldar model being female, that is absurd. I want to see the ratio be nearer to where it should be, as it is with the Dark Eldar range. That is all. I think FW missed an opportunity by not having one of its Eldar SCs female, and I am mildly dissapointed, not whining, not advocating anything, just mildly dissapointed. That you see the dissapointment of those that would like to see more female Eldar characters as a selling point says an awful lot about your (lack of) character.

[Defenestratus]

"Both male and female Eldar move along the Eldar Path in the way described, so Warriors are equally likely to be male or female." - WH40k Compilation, pg 48 'Aspect Warriors'.

Yes but that doesn't mean necessarily that the pool of available warriors are equally divided between male and female.

I cant believe I got drawn into an argument over the gender of make believe space elf warriors.

Its all ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as caring either way that a model is or isn't female.

[BigGrim]

Could we please behave kids? This has been a fun thread. I'd hate to see it closed due to pointless squabbling and name calling.

[eldargal]

Quite right, pity it had to be derailed in the first place. But sadly the thread has probably run its course regardless, FW have said there won't be any more Eldar in the foreseeable future and IA11 has been released so no real call of a news and rumours thread on the subject. There is a IA11 discussion thread in the General section now, though.:)

[BigGrim]

I'll have a look fer that then.